good!
I30 is a bit long in the tooth
they haven't put an N powertrain in a new design kiahoon in a while now.
(inb4 ev)

>>28861870
they were good 20-30 years ago

>>28861876
What changed, in your view?

>>28861915
For example they used proven engines from other manufacturers

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My papa paid 16000€ for a 2014 Kia Sportage with Diesel engine in summer last year. How much did he get scammed? Is the car at least reliable and he won't have further costs?

>>28861923
Change the oil every 10,000 km and you'll be fine

>>28861870
I like my Kia Niro. It was relatively cheap to buy, comfortable to use and own and has good features and functionality. Compared to my previous Volkswagen, this one has given me zero issues thus far and just werks all the time every time.

>>28861870
I don't trust them
apparently they have good warranties but my company car is a 2021 that had started burning oil bad by 50k miles, like by the quart bad
it was like pulling teeth to get hyundai to replace the engine under warranty which needed to happen because the techs couldn't figure out why it was happening
got the new one in and am getting intermittent codes from a bunch of different sensors

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the new futuristic ones look kinda nice. i wouldnt buy one but its good to see a company try something different

The i30n would be the only Korean car I'd buy, but it's not sold here.

>>28861933
I think the Elantra N looks nice, too.
The two things I'd change is the doors and give it a duckbill wing rather than the 'trying to get as close to rice without being rice' wing as possible.

>>28861930
kinda shiddy doe

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Ioniq 6 looks cool

>>28862204
they need to stop doing that
it compromises headroom, visibility, and cargo space

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>>28862204
>Copy porsche
>remove its curves
fucking flat-assed hiplet gooks

>>28862221
>>28862208
Aerodynamics. It's one of the most efficient EVs.

>>28861870
pure trash

>>28862539
yeah but it's ugly as shit, if I see a car and don't immediately want to fuck it then it's GARBAGE

>>28861923
Any kia sportage before 2020 will outlast the sun.

>>28861933
The inside look like shit

>>28862539
I'm sure they could get nearly the aero with a lot more practical space.

>>28863229
My Kia Sportage is a bit after 2020, am I doomed?

>>28863283
GT line?

>>28863229
Is it like Toyota Corolla level of reliability? But still iisn't the price way too high for a 2014 model?

>>28863462
Better, and no.

>>28863463
Holy shit?! I was literally losing sleep over my papa getting scammed, especially because he got scammed twice in the past with used cars that turned out to be money pits (a fr*nch car where the seller was hiding how literally everything was wrong with it and a VW that was fine in the beginning but then started having problems every few months).

>>28863462
Like American built Corolla quality

>>28863288
They don't sell a GT line Sportage (I don't think, that's a sedan thing). Mine is X-Pro Prestige.

I tried Hyundai . Had a 2007 Sonata V6 that lasted over 350k miles. That made me decide to buy another one. It was a 2016 Elantra GT. The hatchback one. It went over 125k miles and just died. I've since gone back to Honda

>>28863515
>didn't get the GT turbo
swing and a miss

also the whole point of hoonkias is getting the newest one you can afford the Elantra GT is a decade old design at this point. Every new generation they improve, unlike Honda who has stagnated.

>>28863473
Yeah the older models GT lines are made to last.
Really anything from KIA before 2020 is good and not chink tier shit.
>french car
Even french don't buy those.
>VW
Which car and model?
Those are pretty decent usually.
>>28863506
Yeah this is the same before rebrand.

>>28863523
We are in consume era.
You should just buy new car, then replace it every 25K.
Chinese and korean cars are made with this in made, so does the other cars manufactures except they don't price it as such

>>28863524
>Yeah this is the same before rebrand.
um no
the xpro prestige has some unique features like a wired-up front windshield defroster and skid plates as well as the top-trim features of the SX Prestige (premium sound, ventilated seats). The newest ones have a head up display and LED interior lighting but mine is used and doesn't have those.

>>28863533
I think I'm at like 80k miles. I intend to run it into the ground, I'm just saying I think the newest Kias are way better than they were even 10 years ago. They put a lot of effort in.

>>28863539
>newest Kias are way better than they were even 10 years ago
Most be different market then in Europe it's shit.

>>28861870
Genesis is fine. N cars hit above their weight.
Apparently the Telluride or how ever you spell it is good.

>>28863523
>honda stagnated

Meanwhile, in reality, everyone loves the hybrid drivetrain they started putting on the new Civics.

>>28863887
t. Honda Prelude launch team

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>>28862204
>Ioniq 6 looks cool
lmao
that rear end is a crime