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Who was in the wrong?
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cyclist hes riding in the blind spot between two vehicles and he's dressed like a faggot
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>>28862027
It's so obviously the cyclist. There's a bike lane right there and he chooses to ride between a bus and a car. I'd use the sidewalk even though it's illegal, you won't see me bicycling between car lanes - that's so obviously dangerous it shouldn't be allowed.
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>>28862043
Because the van ahead went for a turn and stopped abruptly making the VW steer away to avoid them.
Could they have been following a mile behind the van? Perhaps, you could make such an argument.
should the bicyclist have been in the middle of a road for cars? No.
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>>28862006
If you are a bikefag and put yourself in that kind of danger you are very retarded.
It should be illegal to ride a bike on regular roads without an traffic insurance, if one of these faggots hits your car you have to pay for the damage on your car.
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the car was in the wrong for merely stopping instead of swerving over and flattening this retarded piece of shit like he deserves. there's a fucking BIKE LANE built specifically for this fucking faggot 10 feet to his left and he still insists on riding in between two moving vehicles in the middle of the fucking road.
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>>28863093
The car didn't turn at all, the cyclist was riding so close that slamming on his brakes was enough to clip him with the side mirror. All the black car did was stop abruptly for the van in front of him, id ticket the cyclist for failing to maintain his lane.
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>>28862006
>van turning right stops mid-turn and leaves his ass hanging out in the lane
>tailgating VW stops to avoid van
>cyclist fucking around in between lanes finds out
>glares at VW driver like he's about to kick his ass
Just your typical cyclist and they wonder why everybody hates them
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>>28863148
the car turned slightly left to avoid the van stopping causing him to nudge the cyclist that was busy admiring his new lycra onesie in the side mirror
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>>28862006
who was in the wrong here
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>>28863481
Light was green, cyclist technically in the wrong. But, like all of these things if the car was driving defensively and had proper situational awareness the cyclist wouldn't have been hit, only subjected to a a righteously long, angry horn press.
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>>28863520
Traffic lights always have the suffix "if it is safe to do so" That's lawyer speak.
Green "procede if it is safe to do so"
Red "stop if it is safe to do so"
Amber "anything can happen in the next half hour"
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>>28863574
>Bike cunt oughtn't have put himself in that spot
legally he's allowed to be there
>Car cnut was too close and ought to have braked
car cunt did should've stopped completely behind the van but like most cunts couldn't be arsed and fell back on their habit of pulling out into the other lane without checking instead of pressing the brake slightly harder
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>>28862006
The cyclist clearly hit the VW.
I don't know about bongs but in my state if you don't leave sufficient space for yourself to react to road conditions you are usually at fault unless the conditions are deemed to be exceptional.
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>>28862006
the cyclist made the mistake of being a cyclist
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>>28863585
>legally he's allowed to be there
No he wasn't, He was straddling two lanes trying to pass between traffic to overtake the bus. He should have been behind the VW in the centre of the lane if he wanted to pass the bus on the outside. Instead, he opted to simultaneously overtake the bus and undertake the VW. Note: this isn't filtering through stationary traffic, he's decided to do something dangerous because he's impatient.
If you want to see a cyclist in the correct position, the guy in the blue jacket at the end of the video is behaving exactly as he should. Even being aware of his surroundings enough to stop when the prick in the sunnies gets the least worst outcome for his total disregard for the highway code and other road users i.e. a light tap causing no permanent damage to him or his bike
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>>28863614
filtering through stationary or moving traffic is legal, we can't see how he ended up being stuck between a bus and a car due to the short nature of the video but it doesn't even matter, we can assume or pretend the cyclist was somehow in the wrong it's still on the car driver to make sure it's clear to do so before making a sudden lane change
>being aware of his surroundings enough to stop
what like the VW driver should have been?
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>>28863628
I mean the lanes aren't marked, but I'd bet my right testicle that the VW didn't leave his lane if it were. The cyclist was way too close. Traffic is moving too quickly for me to be happy calling it a filtering situation. It's not legal for a motorbike to split two cars going 60 and 70 on a dual carriageway so why is it ok for this guy to try and split a car and a bus going 10 and 15?
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>>28863341
This line means "yield". Car is at fault but that cyclist is an idiot for not seeing the car coming.
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>>28863650
>VW didn't leave his lane if it were
only because he stopped as he hit the cyclist, you can clearly see his intention was to manoeuvre around the turning van which is perfectly fine to do as long as you check it's clear to do so and it's the literal first thing you're taught here when it comes to driving, in reality you get a bunch of cunts regularly erratically swerving without looking because they're too lazy to do so
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>>28863669
If the VW was actually changing lanes it would have indicated, this was just a twitch to get around the van that was turning right as >>28863665 says.
and I mean, yeah, as the heavier vehicle able to do more damage I generally agree with the VW being held to a high standard of situational awareness, but I don't think the cyclist is blameless at all. There's a load of references to "when safe to do so" in the highway code and putting yourself between a bus and a car is clearly fucking stupid. I cycled for 4 years in central Birmingham and not once would I have done something as piss brained as this guy. I also didn't get hit though so there you go.
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>>28863682
again we can't see how he ended up between the car and the bus and arguing the severity of his twitch or lane change is irrelevant, he was manoeuvring around the van therefore it was on him to make sure it was safe to do so, doesn't matter if he's turning or avoiding a turning car, pothole or any other obstacle, lanes don't really matter when it comes to this either, even if you're swinging from one side of the lane to the other it's your responsibility to make sure it's clear to do so
it's not complicated
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>>28863652
That line does not mean yield. It's the line to not cross when the light is red, that is all. The light is green the car has right of way. Anything in the way that is not an emergency vehicle is at fault.
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>>28863699
The car has every right to manoeuvre around within the lane that it's in. The cyclist shouldn't have been there in the same lane as the car.
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>>28863706
no it doesn't
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>>28863585
>legally he's allowed to be there
And that video is proof that it shouldn't be legal.
Try swimming in a shipping lane and expecting everyone to treat you like a boat while also ignoring the lanes (there are passing rules on water).
It's idiotic.
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>>28863713
lol. is this for real?
>you only check your mirrors when you're about to change speed or direction
in my country we keep one eye on our mirrors at all time so we can react faster to any situation were we might need to change speed or direction. because by the time you've checked your mirrors you've already driven into the back of the bus.
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>>28863721
leave it to the americans to find driving too difficult
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>>28863699
Note the absence of cyclists in the car's blind spot in that diagram.
Look man, I'm not going to argue with you any more. The cyclist was in an unsafe position, proven by the fact that a displacement of the car of less than 20 cm was enough to knock him off. You're meant to give at least 0.5 m to everyone.
I cycle very defensively and would have been occupying the full lane behind the VW in this situation, which would piss cars off sure but it's the safest option to pass the bus. As a result I think the cyclist was in the wrong for trying to split fast moving traffic. The maneuver he was trying to perform was not safe.
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>>28863727
That only applies to cyclists who are not doing anything illegal. Like not using a bike lane where one is provided.
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>>28863729
>I cycle
what are you bent?
>diagram.
supposed to explain to you that you're supposed to check your mirrors before you manoeuvre, as are the pictures here >>28863713 and here >>28863727
fuck man what'd your driving instructor charge? you owe me double
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>>28863733
guess again dickhead
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>>28863732
Look at all the non yanks riding bicycles inches from traffic and not on the side where the marked bike lane is. Yes, dotted line means you can cross, but it doesn't mean you should be riding right in the middle of traffic.
I ride my bike on the sidewalk or grass illegally and there even are bike lanes here. Why? See OP's video. If breaking the law is safer, it's what I'll do.
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>>28863734
Fist of Fun
https://youtu.be/RD5M7ZczriI
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>>28863664
ironic because the people that say this would blame everyone else for running a red light
>>28863668
it also doesn't give you the right to blow through a red expecting nothing to happen.
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>>28863738
>If breaking the law is safer, it's what I'll do.
I speed on my motorcycle so cars can't kill me because if they can't catch me then they can't kill me. It's safer for me to speed.
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>>28863751
>would blame everyone else for running a red light
and getting hit*
would also be the same kind of person that thinks that slamming on the brakes in front of a loaded semi is also perfectly fine because the semi should be able to slow down as quickly as their car can.
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>>28863752
Sometimes, yeah. Stuck in a cluster of cars with open road miles ahead? Speed away from the cars into the pockets where no one else is. Nothin' wrong with that.
I also don't think speeding is a big deal like you yuros who are conditioned to think it's a violent crime or something.
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>>28863756
having right of way doesn't give you the right to murder cyclists. car the power to murder people and the bike doesn't. with great power comes great responsibility.. cager is at fault for not being able to handle that responsibility.
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>>28863769
Those are the rules.
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Who was in the wrong?
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>>28863839
the stupid woman fucked up and her dumb beta male cuck just followed her without looking. i blame jewish influence on western society.
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>>28863774
Trolls used to be believable.
https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/50-years-of-failed-doomsday-eco-pocalyp tic-predictions-the-so-called-exper ts-are-0-50/
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>>28863857
Global warming caused by pollution is real. Why do we want Greenland? Because the arctic is melting so unnaturally-quickly that China and Russia are racing to make new arctic shipping routes.
It's just that it's not only cars.
Even charging your phone most likely required burning fossil fuels to get the electricity. A huge factor is agriculture and industrial pollution.
Why aren't people up in arms about cruise ships that serve zero purpose but burn genuinely over 80,000 gallons of crude a day.
The Chinese factories churning crude into plastic shit that is then shipped across the world.
The airplanes, the military, yadda yadda.
Cars have had immense improvements in emissions, but people still act like cars are the very embodiment of pollution because they can't see the forest for the trees.
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>>28863877
>Why do we want Greenland
Global domination.
The orange one wants an a new order where he is Ruler.
Nobody with half a braincell trusts America right now. Russia is going for the violent quest and China is going for the long game.
It's going to suck for countries that don't have independent nuclear power for the near future.
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>>28863636
If you ever have to choose between running over a pedestrian/cyclist or getting rear ended, choose getting rear ended. It's gonna be extremely difficult to successfully argue in court that running over a person was worth it to avoid a car collision.
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Lycraniggers spending all day rationalizing why the cyclist riding in the stupidest, most dangerous possible place with a bike lane RIGHT FUCKING THERE FOUR FEET AWAY is akshually technically in the right as if that's gonna change the fact that the cyclist just ripped his nutsack off on his stem while the driver just needs to readjust his side mirror.
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>>28863752
>if they can't catch me then they can't kill me
That's what you think.
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I hate the spandex fags like you wouldn't believe. Every single European city spends millions building bicycle lanes and passing all sort of laws to pander to them. But they don't give a fuck and they end up riding next to a car like that. With a fucking bike lane right there.
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>>28863636
All traffic laws are written under the premise of "Duty to yield", and that duty exists in a contextual hierarchy. There's never a "Right of way" given to any party in any circumstance because you can't write or enforce laws that make any party exempt from liability.
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