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>>28862006
Fucking cyclists.
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probably the Golf for following too close, the Van if it didn't signal, and the cyclist for riding too close to the damn golf. he's practically lane splitting when he should be firmly in his own lane.
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cyclist hes riding in the blind spot between two vehicles and he's dressed like a faggot
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The VW driver for not just driving off.
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cucklist for not using THE FUCKING BIKE LANE
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>>28862006
Video doesn't start early enough to tell, but desu it looks like the cyclist. Way too close to that car, so much that the car simply slowing down caused him to eat shit.
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>>28862027
It's so obviously the cyclist. There's a bike lane right there and he chooses to ride between a bus and a car. I'd use the sidewalk even though it's illegal, you won't see me bicycling between car lanes - that's so obviously dangerous it shouldn't be allowed.
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>>28862006
Why would the driver veer off their line like that? Typical woman with no spatial awareness situation.
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>>28862043
Because the van ahead went for a turn and stopped abruptly making the VW steer away to avoid them.
Could they have been following a mile behind the van? Perhaps, you could make such an argument.
should the bicyclist have been in the middle of a road for cars? No.
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>>28862006
the vw driver for not flattening the cunt instead
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>>28862043
>veer off their line
What are you talking about?
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>>28862006
Cyclenigger is always wrong even if the driver is at fault.
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>>28862006
>have your own bike lane
>nah not good enough for me
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>>28862006
If you are a bikefag and put yourself in that kind of danger you are very retarded.
It should be illegal to ride a bike on regular roads without an traffic insurance, if one of these faggots hits your car you have to pay for the damage on your car.
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the car was in the wrong for merely stopping instead of swerving over and flattening this retarded piece of shit like he deserves. there's a fucking BIKE LANE built specifically for this fucking faggot 10 feet to his left and he still insists on riding in between two moving vehicles in the middle of the fucking road.
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I would have gone over the bars.
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>>28862027
What caused him to eat shit was the car turning dumbass
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>>28863093
The car didn't turn at all, the cyclist was riding so close that slamming on his brakes was enough to clip him with the side mirror. All the black car did was stop abruptly for the van in front of him, id ticket the cyclist for failing to maintain his lane.
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>>28862006
>van turning right stops mid-turn and leaves his ass hanging out in the lane
>tailgating VW stops to avoid van
>cyclist fucking around in between lanes finds out
>glares at VW driver like he's about to kick his ass
Just your typical cyclist and they wonder why everybody hates them
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>>28862006
The cyclist for not being in his own lane. Even if he was going right too, there was nolegitimate reason for being beween the cars this way espeacially when one is a van.
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>>28862050
>>28863148
the car turned slightly left to avoid the van stopping causing him to nudge the cyclist that was busy admiring his new lycra onesie in the side mirror
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>>28862006
who was in the wrong here
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>>28862007
They literally Deserve the rope
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>>28863341
Car passed a stop line when the bine was in front of it.
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>>28863481
Light was green, cyclist technically in the wrong. But, like all of these things if the car was driving defensively and had proper situational awareness the cyclist wouldn't have been hit, only subjected to a a righteously long, angry horn press.
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>>28863341
lol he flies apart like sonic losing his rings
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>>28863520
Traffic lights always have the suffix "if it is safe to do so" That's lawyer speak.
Green "procede if it is safe to do so"
Red "stop if it is safe to do so"
Amber "anything can happen in the next half hour"
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you're all fucking retards
VW is 100% at fault for veering without checking it was clear
can't believe any of you are allowed to drive
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>>28863568
Bike cunt oughtn't have put himself in that spot. Car cnut was too close and ought to have braked.
Traffic Control Sniper ought to have shot them both.
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>>28863574
>Bike cunt oughtn't have put himself in that spot
legally he's allowed to be there

>Car cnut was too close and ought to have braked
car cunt did should've stopped completely behind the van but like most cunts couldn't be arsed and fell back on their habit of pulling out into the other lane without checking instead of pressing the brake slightly harder
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>>28862006
The cyclist clearly hit the VW.
I don't know about bongs but in my state if you don't leave sufficient space for yourself to react to road conditions you are usually at fault unless the conditions are deemed to be exceptional.
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>>28862006
the cyclist made the mistake of being a cyclist
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>>28863585
>legally he's allowed to be there
No he wasn't, He was straddling two lanes trying to pass between traffic to overtake the bus. He should have been behind the VW in the centre of the lane if he wanted to pass the bus on the outside. Instead, he opted to simultaneously overtake the bus and undertake the VW. Note: this isn't filtering through stationary traffic, he's decided to do something dangerous because he's impatient.

If you want to see a cyclist in the correct position, the guy in the blue jacket at the end of the video is behaving exactly as he should. Even being aware of his surroundings enough to stop when the prick in the sunnies gets the least worst outcome for his total disregard for the highway code and other road users i.e. a light tap causing no permanent damage to him or his bike
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>>28863614
filtering through stationary or moving traffic is legal, we can't see how he ended up being stuck between a bus and a car due to the short nature of the video but it doesn't even matter, we can assume or pretend the cyclist was somehow in the wrong it's still on the car driver to make sure it's clear to do so before making a sudden lane change

>being aware of his surroundings enough to stop
what like the VW driver should have been?
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>>28863614
mirror signal manoeuvre come on man
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>>28862006
The bus is at fault for driving in the bike lane.
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>>28863562
but slamming on the brakes also isn't a safe thing to do
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>>28862006
The answer is always the cyclist.
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>>28862006
I blame Jews again.
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>>28863341
Bicycle. Ran a red light.
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Total lycrafag death when?
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>>28863341
i blame the sun for creating a dark shadow
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>>28863625
>filtering through stationary or moving traffic is legal,
It's also suicidal. Shows you what your legislators think of bike riders.
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>>28863647
>it's also suicida
in america where object permanence is some kind of alien concept? i bet
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>>28863625
>>28863628
I mean the lanes aren't marked, but I'd bet my right testicle that the VW didn't leave his lane if it were. The cyclist was way too close. Traffic is moving too quickly for me to be happy calling it a filtering situation. It's not legal for a motorbike to split two cars going 60 and 70 on a dual carriageway so why is it ok for this guy to try and split a car and a bus going 10 and 15?
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>>28863341
This line means "yield". Car is at fault but that cyclist is an idiot for not seeing the car coming.
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>>28863647
>filtering is suicidal
skill issue. maybe it's deadly for you when you do it because you're shit at riding (ie, ur a nobike)
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>>28863652
since when the fuck do you have to yield for non-emergency vehicles on a greem traffic light??
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>>28863661
When it involves crashing into them.
If you don't get thet then you ought to be in a huggy suit.
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>>28863650
>VW didn't leave his lane if it were
only because he stopped as he hit the cyclist, you can clearly see his intention was to manoeuvre around the turning van which is perfectly fine to do as long as you check it's clear to do so and it's the literal first thing you're taught here when it comes to driving, in reality you get a bunch of cunts regularly erratically swerving without looking because they're too lazy to do so
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>>28863661
Having right of way doesn't give you the right to murder cyclists.
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>>28863650
also as for the lane change you can see the VW slow down to give the bus that's sticking out in front of him enough room before making his manoeuvre
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>>28863669
If the VW was actually changing lanes it would have indicated, this was just a twitch to get around the van that was turning right as >>28863665 says.

and I mean, yeah, as the heavier vehicle able to do more damage I generally agree with the VW being held to a high standard of situational awareness, but I don't think the cyclist is blameless at all. There's a load of references to "when safe to do so" in the highway code and putting yourself between a bus and a car is clearly fucking stupid. I cycled for 4 years in central Birmingham and not once would I have done something as piss brained as this guy. I also didn't get hit though so there you go.
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>>28863682
again we can't see how he ended up between the car and the bus and arguing the severity of his twitch or lane change is irrelevant, he was manoeuvring around the van therefore it was on him to make sure it was safe to do so, doesn't matter if he's turning or avoiding a turning car, pothole or any other obstacle, lanes don't really matter when it comes to this either, even if you're swinging from one side of the lane to the other it's your responsibility to make sure it's clear to do so
it's not complicated
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>>28863682
>If the VW was actually changing lanes it would have indicated
lol
lmao even
have you ever driven a car on the road once in your fucking life?
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>>28863652
That line does not mean yield. It's the line to not cross when the light is red, that is all. The light is green the car has right of way. Anything in the way that is not an emergency vehicle is at fault.
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>>28863699
The car has every right to manoeuvre around within the lane that it's in. The cyclist shouldn't have been there in the same lane as the car.
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>>28863706
no it doesn't
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>>28863585
>legally he's allowed to be there
And that video is proof that it shouldn't be legal.
Try swimming in a shipping lane and expecting everyone to treat you like a boat while also ignoring the lanes (there are passing rules on water).
It's idiotic.
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>>28863717
>And that video is proof that it shouldn't be legal
you think so? i'd say it's proof too many people who are incapable of driving are allowed to drive
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>>28863713
lol. is this for real?
>you only check your mirrors when you're about to change speed or direction

in my country we keep one eye on our mirrors at all time so we can react faster to any situation were we might need to change speed or direction. because by the time you've checked your mirrors you've already driven into the back of the bus.
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>>28863717
>Try swimming in a shipping lane and expecting everyone to treat you like a boat
You yield to those of larger tonnage. There is a rule.
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>>28863721
leave it to the americans to find driving too difficult
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>>28863719
Oooh, look at the ego on this one.
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>>28863699
Note the absence of cyclists in the car's blind spot in that diagram.

Look man, I'm not going to argue with you any more. The cyclist was in an unsafe position, proven by the fact that a displacement of the car of less than 20 cm was enough to knock him off. You're meant to give at least 0.5 m to everyone.

I cycle very defensively and would have been occupying the full lane behind the VW in this situation, which would piss cars off sure but it's the safest option to pass the bus. As a result I think the cyclist was in the wrong for trying to split fast moving traffic. The maneuver he was trying to perform was not safe.
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>>28863728
you call it ego but just look at all the yanks bewildered by the concept of regularly checking your mirrors
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>>28863727
That only applies to cyclists who are not doing anything illegal. Like not using a bike lane where one is provided.
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>>28863729
>I cycle
what are you bent?

>diagram.
supposed to explain to you that you're supposed to check your mirrors before you manoeuvre, as are the pictures here >>28863713 and here >>28863727

fuck man what'd your driving instructor charge? you owe me double
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>>28863729
If I was on a bike (I have powered and non powered two wheelers) I would have been on the busses corner about to double my speed as soon as the WV left.
Making progress.
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>>28863733
guess again dickhead
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>>28863732
Look at all the non yanks riding bicycles inches from traffic and not on the side where the marked bike lane is. Yes, dotted line means you can cross, but it doesn't mean you should be riding right in the middle of traffic.
I ride my bike on the sidewalk or grass illegally and there even are bike lanes here. Why? See OP's video. If breaking the law is safer, it's what I'll do.
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>>28863734
Fist of Fun
https://youtu.be/RD5M7ZczriI
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>>28863737
That's because UK infrastructure is 3rd world.
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>>28863738
>I ride my bike
load of benders about
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>>28863739
Ignore that he has parked facing the wrong way.
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>>28863741
I ride it, at most, 4 times a year. Usually for a quick beer run if the weather is nice. 16spd supermarket mtn bike of some kind.
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>>28863744
>I ride it
i bet you do
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>>28863740
UK invented infrastructure (what did the Romans do). It's easy to criticise it when yours is either disintegrating or being bombed to hell.
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>>28863664
ironic because the people that say this would blame everyone else for running a red light
>>28863668
it also doesn't give you the right to blow through a red expecting nothing to happen.
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>>28863738
>If breaking the law is safer, it's what I'll do.
I speed on my motorcycle so cars can't kill me because if they can't catch me then they can't kill me. It's safer for me to speed.
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>>28863751
>would blame everyone else for running a red light
and getting hit*
would also be the same kind of person that thinks that slamming on the brakes in front of a loaded semi is also perfectly fine because the semi should be able to slow down as quickly as their car can.
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>>28863652
You're a fucking retard. It's a green light; car has right-of-way.
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>>28863749
>UK invented infrastructure
Sure. UJK's infrastructure is thousands of years old and can't keep up with modern safety standards.
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>>28863752
Sometimes, yeah. Stuck in a cluster of cars with open road miles ahead? Speed away from the cars into the pockets where no one else is. Nothin' wrong with that.
I also don't think speeding is a big deal like you yuros who are conditioned to think it's a violent crime or something.
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>>28863757
bro just because i rattled you with an explanation of how you're supposed to drive in the 1st world you're going to spend the rest of this thread seething at the uk?
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>>28863481
The light was green you fuckin idjit
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>>28863756
having right of way doesn't give you the right to murder cyclists. car the power to murder people and the bike doesn't. with great power comes great responsibility.. cager is at fault for not being able to handle that responsibility.
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>>28863762
>UK IS GREAT
>GOD SAVE THE UK
>UK THIS
>UK THAT
<but uk is shit
>ZOMG YOU'RE OBSSESSED WITH THE UK
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>>28863725
cars can stop much easier than cargo ships
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>>28863766
unironically great bait
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>>28863762
Every time it rain in Australia (three times a year) the roads are littered with potholes that need to be fixed. It rains every day in the UK so your roads must be shite.
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>>28863766
You're a fucking retard, bud. The bike came out of the shadows, while running a red light, the car is 100% not at fault period. Dipshit cunt.
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>>28863773
the cager is at fault for causing global warming which will annihilate all life on earth
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>>28863769
Those are the rules.
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>>28863774
Your true colors appear.
You simply don't like cars and shouldn't be here.
Don't have kids, that will have a bigger impact than not driving a car.
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>>28863772
Somewhere near to me they have finally stopped the road becoming a Ford every time there is heavy rain. Nature has decided to erode the west bank under a nearby hill.
Don't fcuk with nature.
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>>28863481
Watch it again, dipshit
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>>28862006
This looks like two retards found each other.
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Who was in the wrong?
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>>28863839
Bicyclists.
Didn't hand signal, didn't even look before crossing a lane.
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>>28863839
sauce? been trying to find any news articles about this particular crash for a while now. would be surprised if he didn't go full starfish when he got hit
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>>28863839
Everyone should bicycle then moped then motorcycle then car. A layered system.
Those that survive get to mash learners under their wheels.
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>>28863839
the stupid woman fucked up and her dumb beta male cuck just followed her without looking. i blame jewish influence on western society.
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>>28863774
Trolls used to be believable.
https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/50-years-of-failed-doomsday-eco-pocalyptic-predictions-the-so-called-experts-are-0-50/
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>>28863857
Global warming caused by pollution is real. Why do we want Greenland? Because the arctic is melting so unnaturally-quickly that China and Russia are racing to make new arctic shipping routes.
It's just that it's not only cars.
Even charging your phone most likely required burning fossil fuels to get the electricity. A huge factor is agriculture and industrial pollution.
Why aren't people up in arms about cruise ships that serve zero purpose but burn genuinely over 80,000 gallons of crude a day.
The Chinese factories churning crude into plastic shit that is then shipped across the world.
The airplanes, the military, yadda yadda.
Cars have had immense improvements in emissions, but people still act like cars are the very embodiment of pollution because they can't see the forest for the trees.
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Cyclist got caught on the mirrior, he was too close to the car.
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>>28863877
>Why do we want Greenland
Global domination.
The orange one wants an a new order where he is Ruler.
Nobody with half a braincell trusts America right now. Russia is going for the violent quest and China is going for the long game.
It's going to suck for countries that don't have independent nuclear power for the near future.
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>>28863889
>The orange one wants an a new order where he is Ruler.
he's already the supreme leader of the world and nothing you can say will change the fact that hilary lost (and so did that brown bitch).
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>>28863636
If you ever have to choose between running over a pedestrian/cyclist or getting rear ended, choose getting rear ended. It's gonna be extremely difficult to successfully argue in court that running over a person was worth it to avoid a car collision.
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>>28863839
>even if camera car somehow missed them there was another car in the oncoming lane that was going to hit them
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>>28862006
>cyclist lane on the left
>hmmmm let me cycle in the middle of the road
Gee anon, I wonder.
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>>28863807
Does the neoprene riding outfit and helmet make it so that c*clists are incapable of looking forward?
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>>28864180
>riding outfit
They put that on and they are a professional rider on a closed course.
The only answer is to make them a professional wheelchair user.
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Lycraniggers spending all day rationalizing why the cyclist riding in the stupidest, most dangerous possible place with a bike lane RIGHT FUCKING THERE FOUR FEET AWAY is akshually technically in the right as if that's gonna change the fact that the cyclist just ripped his nutsack off on his stem while the driver just needs to readjust his side mirror.
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>>28863752
>if they can't catch me then they can't kill me
That's what you think.
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>>28864190
jesus fuck no lottery tickets for that guy, used up all his luck having full functionality to his dick and balls restored after all that
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I hate the spandex fags like you wouldn't believe. Every single European city spends millions building bicycle lanes and passing all sort of laws to pander to them. But they don't give a fuck and they end up riding next to a car like that. With a fucking bike lane right there.
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>>28863520
>angry horn press
The horn isnt an angry button
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>>28864234
Town and Country horns are great, you get a toot or a FUCKINGTRAIN depending on your mood.
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>>28864243
nothing compares to having a someone stick a handheld air horn out the window of their dodge caravan and FR FR FRRRRRRRing you
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>>28863562
>>28863636
All traffic laws are written under the premise of "Duty to yield", and that duty exists in a contextual hierarchy. There's never a "Right of way" given to any party in any circumstance because you can't write or enforce laws that make any party exempt from liability.
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cyclist did not leave 3ft to pass either car, then collided with the VW while not fully in either lane (another sign of an unsafe pass) and is therefore at fault
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The worst was when I lived in rural Oregon and commuted to the city and these fuckers would ride their bikes on rural highways early in the morning when it's still super dark.
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>>28863839
I really need to get a dashcam because of these fuckers
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>>28865382
yeah i'm sure the cyclist will successfully use this in court when it's shown that he blew straight through a red light
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>>28863839
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>>28863556
kekke
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>>28863341
Light was green + the cyclist was in the shade. It's reasonable to assume he was blending in with the shade around him.
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>>28865806
mfw uninsured /n/iggers destroy my car and are too poor and dead to sue

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