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>>28862053

My question now is, should I give this car a go if I take this car for an optic check and check everything else at some legit mechanic shop?.. and it turns out everything was fixed good and is in good shape and ready for new mileage? I feel like I can lowball this seller now that I know the true history of this car and tell him I still want it, but that I checked the history and want to make sure it's actually in good condition. Am I retarded or is it worth a try?


What I also find interesting about this story is that this dude first went to Porsche dealership and the dealership was glad to put up this car for sale, I assume they saw the carVertical history photos. In my countries car history registry (not carVertical) I can also see it passed the technical inspection in 2022 without any problems, this was after the car was imported and fixed. So it does look like it was fixed okay, but still, want to take it for inspection myself. Seller said he wants 14k€, could go a bit lower, but after all of this, I'm really thinking of taking 11k€ with me next time and if it passes the inspection show him the money and it's going to be take it or leave it.

>>28862053
>>28862055
tl;dr

Bringing less money is a nigger move, you're just wasting everyone's time
I don't understand why you want a discount because the car was dirty and had the transmission out once(?). If the body is straight and it runs right, you have no leverage
He'll just sell the car to someone else because you will seem highly untrustworthy

>>28862053
Move on, not worth the trouble, some chump with less inclination to check history will buy it and find out what happens.

>>28862062
OP here, what bothers me is that he's a local man and we are both from same region basically, same culture, where most people are trustworthy to each other. This dude however didn't want to tell me me/lied to me about the history of this car, which I find incredibly scummy. Especially, because as I said people here are mostly open and trustworthy and don't hide shit like this and give people false feelings.

My thinking for lowballing him is basically to make him feel bad a bit for lying to me, but also re-assuring him that I'm still willing to buy the car, but that I know I'm taking a bit of a risk here now that I've seen what condition it was in previously. So that's my angle, I believe he bought this car for around 8k, fixed it to some degree and now wants to make 4-5k additionally.

What I find scummy also is that he told me how everyone is greedy and scummy when selling cars and that people want to earn 5k per car, instead of 1k and being happy, which he seems like is doing now himself actually, a hyprocrite.

So yeah, I want to make him feel bad a bit, but also tell him I want to take care of this car now long term and that it's going to be for my upcoming family, etc.. maybe he'll soften and will take 11.5k€ or 12k€, still think it's a good price if car is okay.

He also told me how most sellers called him offering 10k€ and how greedy they are etc.. but of course, they also saw the carVertical pictures probably.

>>28862073
And showing him cash in person after I make him feel guilty feels like he take it, just to redeem some part of his soul, even though he'll not make as much money as he wanted, but at least he'll save some of that soul if he has any and he also knows he'll sell car to someone who wants to have it for his family and take care of it long term.

>>28862080
You sound like a little bitch. Are you a little bitch?

>>28862073
You are absolutely deluded
>there was a major service done due to water pump leaking, bit of a red flag
not at all, old cars need mechanical repairs
>sitting in some dump
they're just dealer lots with a few leaves around
>must of had some serious damage underneath on chassis
not visible on the pictures, you're imagining things

Pictures just show a dismantled car with what I'm assuming transmission or t-case damage
If you want a car with decent history stop hunting for bargains and stick to the sort of car you can actually afford

>>28862080
How exactly does confronting an adult man and making him less scummy makes me a bitch? I'd be a bitch if I didn't confront someone who clearly wants to hide shit and lie about it and fuck people over while being a hypocrite.

>>28862089
Thank you for giving me a bit of a reality check, exactly the input I also want to hear.

I wouldn't say 2018 car with 147.000 KM is an old car, but ok.

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>>28862053
>Seller states in description that there was a major service done due to water pump leaking, bit of a red flag
>maintaining your car is a red flag
Tell me what country you're in so in the future I know what kind of a retard and where to expect.

>>28862107
Okay let's just clear this out, usually people do major service around 180.000km if everything is okay. Major service being done around 130.000km is not standard here and is seen as something must be off or went wrong if it's that early.

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>>28862053
>Its problematic
Walk out, no matter how much you negotiate, it wont be worthwhile.
Its a skoda, it's not exactly hard to find the exact same spec again.
>Its fine
Okay, just buy it.
>was sitting in some car dump for some time collecting dust.
Unless that's for a long time, whats the problem?

>>28862093
How about you just go buy another car

>>28862107
This, you see it so much with normies where they think major repairs done to a car is a bad thing, it's like my brother in bad car decision making, be glad you got that fucking work done, the last thing you want is to get a car that hasn't had any major work done, and then you're holding the bag when it needs it.

>>28862095
Glad to hear you're not doubling down again. Talk to the guy about it, offer him 13,5 kiloshekels or whatever. Maybe get the trans serviced to be safe
>I wouldn't say 2018 car with 147.000 KM is an old car, but ok.
me neither, but it's relative. To a car dealer anything past OEM warranty and ~100k km is old and often a pain in the ass to sell due to liabilites

>>28862133
OP here, if you read what I wrote you'd know I've done major service early due to exact same problem. It's of course good thing you get it fixed and maintain your car, but by default major services here are done at 180.000km usually if everything is running smooth, that's all.

>>28862111
>>28862140
So you'd rather buy a car with 150kk km on it and have to do major repairs anyway at 180kk km than buy a car that has already had this shit done at 150kk km? You are beyond retarded.
>>28862133
OP is a giga moron but I guess that's par for the course for someone buying a Skoda and a wagon at that.

>>28862143
No, people have completely understood me incorrectly about this. One of the reasons I also liked this car was because it had major service done, which I saw as a positive. My comment about being a red flag came out wrong.

>>28862146
Nigga then you shouldn't have written it was a red flag.

>>28862148
yeah I figured now how it came out, my bad

>>28862073
you should write a manifesto

>>28862053
>>28862055
The guy selling the car would not lie about it being an "active work car" if sitting in some junkyard wasn't a negative.
The price he put the car up for is the price for an actively used car that was being maintained, not for a car that was sitting in a junkyard. So change your offer accordingly.

Make sure you don't see any other red flags.
If you can show the car to the mechanics, ask them to take a quick look at the water pump and if the work they did on it was good. If it doesn't look good, then put into account how much it will be to fix in your offer.

The issue with getting your fair price, is that the seller might be confident that they can just sit on it a little longer and sell it to some other sucker who won't be as diligent as you. I don't know how the laws over there works when it comes to owning a car. It's possible that sitting on the car for months will cost them in some other fees which would make them more likely to sell it quickly even if it's not how much they wanted.

>>28862055
>>28862053
You're dealing with what we call in burgerstan a "car flipper". Walk away.

>>28862263
I personally fuck with a flipper's car if they did some much needed maintenance or reconditioning themselves to make the car a little nicer than how they found it at auction and sold it for a reasonable price that's more than they paid for originally and it becomes a good car for someone, it's no different than what dealers do, and often times dealers won't even fix shit, it goes straight from either the auction or trade-in to the lot for too high a price for how shitboxy and neglected it is

Basically, just look over your shit, doesn't matter if it's for sale on the side of the road, a private person, or even a dealership, it's the only way to get a good car.