While the build quality is undeniably excellent and the car is just brilliant its overpriced simply because of price gouging.

>>28862265
Yes, it's that good.

>>28862265
Faggots who can't afford a Ferrari buy them to show off.
That is all there is to it.

>>28862271
>>28862272
It's a Volkswagen.

>>28862265
Because they can charge that much and still sell cars.

>>28862265
The crazy thing is they're all McDonald's strutted so pretty much built like a kia. I think Arabian motherfuckers use these cars as bait to get white women to fuck them.

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>>28862265
Ever since coof especially it seems like they've been trying to raise Porsches into exotic status. Barely a decade ago you could grab a 996 for under $10k, especially a tip Cabrio. Air cooled 911s were still no more than $25-50k on average. A regular 996 coupe would've been around $15k. Those prices have since doubled if not more, for no reason other than the meme status of the brand.
>sure its faster, but 8 times faster, 8 times more fun to drive?
Compare any 335i, especially with a shitty off the shelf tune, and it'd probably blow the doors off of the Cayman. "But muh twisties!", the Porschephile might claim, but again, is it worth paying multiple times what a faster car might cost just so you can claim to be faster around a corner? The dude that pulls up in a clapped old Miata can claim the same thing.
I don't know, I just don't get how something like a 2007-08 Cayman S can cost ~$30k used while having a 0-60 time of 5.1 seconds. A Mustang GT of the same year matches that. A Subaru WRX is even faster. Hell, a BMW 135i of the same era is faster than that stock, no tune shit needed, and you can grab one around $10k, less sometimes. I'm sure it's fun, but is the "feel" of the mid engine really worth paying 3-4x as much to have a car that'll be slower in 95% of regular driving? Sovl isn't an excuse either, since that only works when you're driving an actual classic, plus I'm comparing with cars of the same vintage.

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>>28862265
I'm happy paying extra knowing that spics and faggots like you won't be driving the same car as me. It's meant to filter poorfags like you.

>>28862378
Bro you drive a v6 lol on McDonald's, it doesn't get any poorer than that

>>28862384
>v6

>>28862306
you are talking out of ass.
Porsche is for connoisseurs who want an exceptionally reliable and fun to drive premium car.
Ferrari is for people who ultimately buy a Porsche as a daily driver because the Ferrari is in the shop most of the time

>>28862389
what did you get the quadruple turbo 2.0 or some shit lmoa, the fuck out of here. its automatic btw.

>>28862378
Any ghetto is littered with Porsche trucks, they outnumber Range Rovers nowadays.

>>28862397
buying a clapped porsche suv or some v6 sports car is probably the quickest ticket out of inceldom for a lot of these men. cant even blame them.

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>>28862394
It's not reliable, nor is it premium, it's a volkswagen. No Ferrari owner would be caught dead in a Volkswagen.

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>>28862402
all of my Porsches are as reliable as it gets. I have 5

>>28862378
Your Cayman is NARP (Not A Real Porsche) and impresses no one.

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>>28862401
Niggers aren't incels, man, they fuck like rabbits. My black friend drives a 93 Fleetwood, it's pretty boss, I'd say it gets more attention than the German shitwagons. Insanely under powered, though, the first year got the 307 Olds.

>>28862404
Nice junkyard.
I can tell you are a serious collector just by how you park those broken down shitboxes in the mud. Real sports cars don't need floors.

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>>28862415
cope

>>28862416
should have never sold the lotus

>>28862405
Boxsters are fagmobile of the highest order, BUT, to give credit where it's due, that is the smoothest 4 cylinder I have ever driven. I hit the limiter like 10 times in one drive.

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>>28862416
Lol.
Seethe.

>>28862418
Lots
Of
Trouble
Usually
Serious

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>>28862418
What's funny is that whoever bought that cobbled together piece of shit also wishes it was never for sale.

>>28862422
A 7 race car is probably fun, as a street car they have always been a joke, Esprits are free for a reason, and they had their own motor, the new ones are Toyota powered, because Toyotas are known for their sports car soul.

>>28862271
the build qualitty is terrible, even the most expensive 911 rattles and creaks like crazy new, let alone used one. all their cars have terrible build quality, nvh and reliability

>>28862265
>a cayman from the same year costs like 8 times as much
>325i: 2k
>base cayman: 8k
what country?

>>28862448
now compare pristine ones instead of the most clapped ones you can find

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>>28862452
ok it's kind of high mileage but it's the 3.4 S and i'd hardly call it clapped

>>28862448
I think he's saying the BMW would be $8,000 sorted and the Boxster would be $64,000, which seems right.

>>28862454
Caymans cost 64k to fix? God you BMW retards can't even hyperbole properly

>>28862454
$64,000 for a boxster? really?

>>28862453
Oh, it is. That car is leaking everywhere.
German cars are a fucking horror when the motor is in the front, this 15 second turd is going to be on a whole different level. These cars cost less than a Corrola for a reason.

>>28862456
The price of pussy is at an all time high right now

>>28862265
It's always the BMW drivers kek

>>28862459
it's not you're just coping

>>28862455
>>28862456
Yes.
For you, /o/ posters, it won't be because you can fix it. If a teenaged girl brings that car to the dealer how much would it be to straighten out an $8,000 Porsche?

i thought this was a case of euro cars being much more expensive in america for no reason but it seems you can get a clean cayman s in the states for around 12k usd so the prices are pretty similar, in what 3rd world shithole does a cayman cost 8 times as much as an e91 325i

>>28862463
Buy it, then, seems like the internet is full of money making opportunities for a man of your ability.
100% sorted you can sell that sexy little thing to a sexy little thing for $20,000. No young lady wants to drive a Camry.
Keep me posted.

>>28862354
You do not compare a Cayman or 911 to a Mustang or a WRX. They are not in the same league of driver engagement. WRX is just a cheap econobox and Mustang is Americrap.
My preference is for the 330i ZHP or the Z3 since I prefer low-end torque to revving the shit out of the engine, but I can't deny that the 911/Cayman/Boxster are fucking tight and fun to drive. There's a tier of excellence that's worthy of love and that changes the desirability.

>>28862404
A man of esteemed taste.

>>28862475
>for $20,000
i can't because it's only worth about £8,000, are you retarded?

>>28862473
E91 actually bring a premium here, there is a weird wagon subculture, and they almost always have anime avatars.
They are generally pretty knowledgeable, honestly.

>>28862479
pretty sure nu-mustang has bones also it has a v8 so yea you really cant compare them to rental spec euro trash

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>>28862481
Oh, no, that is not correct. That car just needs your loving touch.
Good luck my brother, glad I could turn you on to this untouched market!! Maybe some day you will look out for me.

>>28862487
what am i going to do? ship a right hand drive example to america? i ask again, are you retarded?

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>>28862487
also

>>28862453
>bore scoring

>>28862492
are all americans terrified by the notion that you can own a relatively fun car for not much money? is it like a cultural thing or?

Funny how a car with struts drives better than a shitbox with wishbones

>>28862265
>>28862271
>Prices!!
The price is what the market will bear
You just cant afford it

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>>28862453
>>28862488
You said that was a nice car, you said it was not leaking everywhere.
You are a fucking clown, you would be lucky to get air in a tire.
>>28862492
You are talking to someone who has never driven a car outside of a video game. He knows Porsches in and out, though. Porsche owners are known to be hands on.

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>>28862494
>no compression
>fun
Fuck off, retard.

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>>28862501
16 cars in at this point and most of them were on the lower end of the market, you'd have the same reaction towards every single one and yet they were all pretty much fine
whatever past experience or trauma is causing all this anxiety towards old cars for you is not my problem
wanna see the 4.2 v8 jag i bought for £3800 2 years ago?

>>28862495
They can, absolutely.

>>28862504
i dont get how people pretend to be car enthusiasts when they're scared to own cars

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>>28862509
>anxiety towards old cars
I posted my car above, it's 39 years old.
It is not, however, a disposable piece of shit like that Indian built Ford you are posting.
I'm going out, without a fake rich car, you fellows take care, I do love you.

>>28862514
You are pretending.
You can't bore that motor, it is dead. Nice, huh?

>>28862421
what this? >>28862421
LMFAO

>>28862494
Bore scoring isn’t inexpensive to fix

>>28862495
>Funny how a car with struts drives better than a shitbox with wishbones
Things that never happened delusional wrenchlet kek, who told you this?

>>28862495
Ignorance

>>28862265
Multiple Porsche owner here, and I'll agree they've really gotten ridiculous in pricing.
Conveniently this also acts as a nice filter so you're not seeing a bunch of brownoids driving around in the same car and giving the brand a bad reputation a la Chally Wally and they dont call bmw the "Brown Man's Wheels" for nothing.

If I was in your position as a young lad today and looking for a sporty ride while being strapped for cash I'd either keep driving the e91 shitbox I have or get something cheap and fun like a miata, a mustang gt, c8 (or earlier vette). Then if you save your money, make some good decisions, get a little bit lucky and maybe once youre ready to step up to a porsche or something you'll be in a better financial position to do so.
Don't live your life in a world of seethe but dont break the bank trying to look like youre wealthy when youre not. It's fairly simple if you dont let your ego get in the way and just enjoy your car(s) but I know thats not the zeitgeist here so carry on.

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I don't understand this larp of >porsche is for white pride. I was at a cars n coffee in long beach the other day and majority of the 911 owners were tech jeets in patagonia vests. Same thing at tons of other events. Nobody actually thinks this way in the real world or in real places. It's purely an image in the brain of terminally online larpers

>>28863009
post one along with hand.

>>28862265
equivalent of swiss watches. push,luxurious, overpriced. nothing new ,move along
/thread

>>28863046
Honda owners lmao STFU

>>28863104
im not a honda owner and im not saying i wouldnt buy a porsche tho. overpriced? yes. but they have excellent precision engineering no other sport daily offers.

I see no need to pay more new for anything than BMW.

new M BMW cars are actually quite reasonably priced considering their monstrous performance and reliability.

I would find it very hard to justify buying a new 911 over a new M5 on price difference alone and not being a super porsche fanboy

>>28863110
>excellent precision engineering
>Maccas on all 4
Yea

>>28863113
new m5 looks ugly tho.

>>28863117
its an acquired taste for sure. I think the crazy direction they took all the new G generation M cars in is quite cool actually.

BMW mogs porsche so hard in value for the money, all the tech jeets and porsche fanboys try to push the 911 into the supercar category when it doesn't deserve that at all.

>>28863118
i dont think potential m5 owners cross-shop with porsche. maybe 3series/cayman or maccan/x5, but 911 and m5?

>>28863119
why wouldn't they? I cross shopped a lot of different stuff before ending up with a fully loaded M2

>>28863104
At least you can buy a Honda with double bones on all four corners that doesn't cost as much as a house

>>28863123
You’d have a gay ass Honda though.

>>28863026
LMAO this nigga in california lookin around going 'i dont see any white people around here'. Yeah no shit bro. xD

>>28863026 can larp on my dick.

>>28863110
lmao overpriced vw with macdonalds

>>28862389
Yes, a 180 degree v6

>>28863651
>fastest road legal car with best in class steering feedback
>as reliable as a Toyota
>overpriced

>>28863790
Bro it's a McDonald's strutted plastic engined auto only v6 RENTAL with GAY as FUCK EPS

>>28863120
>>28863119
i didn't even consider a porsche when looking for my M5. i looked at E63s and a ZL1. i think 911s are more of like what a miata driver would get if he was successful in life. also for example i don't think many M5 owners are cyclists while i think all 911 owners are.

>>28863845
Based and UDMpilled

>>28863803
>buzzwords
sounds like cope and lies as per usual

>>28863845
Your dad bought the M5

No one is cross shopping a 911 with a boat that weighs 2000lbs more.

>>28862265
Because people keep fucking paying for it
Me personally I can't fathom dropping 200k for a 6-cylinder unless it's a GT-R

>>28863696
underrated

>>28862494
We already have one, it's called a Corvette that mogs Porsches all day.

>>28864219
The Panamera exists becuase they were losing 911 customers to bmw