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>Grow up in the 2000's
>Experience the best 2 decades of automotive design + engineering (90s, 00's)
>Entire family and friends own Japanese cars from this era
>Start looking into new cars
>Not a single vehicle made after 2015 matches the production quality, material durability, human factors and user friendliness of Japanese cars made in the 90's and 2000s
>mfw my experiences and early reference points have ruined anything new from being good enough for me
>can't believe the price tags on new cars despite obvious production color, trim and fitment defects, not to mention utterly abhorrent user interface and control systems.
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>>28862860
its beyond over, thank your jewish overlords and enjoy your plastic engine mated to a slushbox on mcodnalds struts.
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>>28862860
All new cars look like chinks and/or gundams.
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>>28862860
The data shows the exact opposite. Average vehicle age is increasing, and newer vehicles are lasting much longer.
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>>28862860
Subarus are still consistently the same shit.

Even Toyotas aren't terrible if you just avoid the Tundra/Sequoia.
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>>28862978
if average vehicle age is increasing that would mean that people are driving older cars more instead of buying a newer car.
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>>28862860
the same applies to Women, and life in general

>>28862982
yes, probably reflects people are relatively poorer and can't afford to upgrayde dey whip every 3 years anymore

the enshittification will only get worse
there is no hope without a complete reset of "humanity" iykwim
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>>28862982
That's one metric but another one is the disposal rate of newer vehicles is slowing down.
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>>28863010
That doesn't necessarily point to newer cars being more reliable. It could indicate that people don't have as much spending power and once they're trapped in a loan and something fails on the car it's easier to replace a part than sell it and finance a new vehicle. It could indicate that people don't like modern cars for whatever reason.
Engine design has improved, but we've also added on tons of accessory systems , sensors, and weird emissions stuff while also adding weight. There are cars today that recommend 20k mile oil changes, specifically so your engine won't last. Wet belts, DCTs dying at 100k, timing chain guides wearing, it's such a hassle to deal with for things that make cars worse. And they truly are much harder to work on.
It's not so cut and dry.
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>>28862860
Poorfag cope. Modern cars are more reliable, more comfortable, have more QoL features and generally aren't death traps. Your rusty shit bucket from the 90's may be impressive from a pure engineering aspect but pales in comparison to a modern car and all its comforts and features.
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>>28863051
>Comforts and features
Some people want a car, not a mobile living room.
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>>28863051
There's like maybe 5 QoL features that are actually useful and like 50 that actively make the driving and ownership experience worse.
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>>28863067
The only modern feature that isn't trivially added to a 90s car that I would actually want is side mirrors that tilt down when you reverse. I guess i could just get bigger mirrors though.
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>>28863057
if anything, older land barges are simply driftable living rooms.
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We're currently in a new malaise era, lots of new regulations, some more effective than others. My expectation/hope is that things will stabilize in time and manufacturers will be less hamstrung by laws that don't actually do anything to solve the problems they claim to.
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2015-21 STi is 90% identical to the 04-07 STi

ND Miata is better in every way than the generation before it and the one before it while not being that horrible
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>>28863051
OP never said anything about cars being reliable you illiterate faggot

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