>>28862990
>It's the same fuckin thing just a different pedal.
pedals

some people have truck clutches in their car

>>28862990
Having done both I'll take the manual every time even in bumper to bumper traffic. The manual isn't the annoying part, the traffic is. I'd be just as frustrated in an automatic, so I'd rather have the manual so I can at least have fun when traffic isn't fucked instead of being bored in an automatic all the time.

>>28863053
>I'd be just as frustrated in an automatic
This. I don't understand either why people can't put it in first , leave some space and just crawl in traffic rather than stop-go every 2 minutes,
>But someone will cut me off if I leave a 6 inch gap!!111!!11
Fuck who cares let them, not like either of you are getting any where quick

>>28862990
I dd an auto now, but manual isn't bad unless you're trying to keep up with the stop-go bullshit. You can just creep along at 5mph while everyone else floors it to 20mph just to keep up then slams on the brakes to stop again, but your creeping will catch back up to them and hopefully they start moving again. People don't like when someone changes into their lane in front of them tho, so they *have* to keep up and doing that in a manual is a pain in the ass.

>>28862990
2 pedals.
Also the clutch needs much more force, because "feathering" it means keeping it at a certain position without direct feedback from the pedal.

yeah i never use the brakes in my manual car im 18 and have a drivers licence btw

>>28862990
Try that shit in an incline

>>28862990
Its fine in my normal manual car but im forced to drive a shitbox getz at the moment and the clutch is heavy as fuck. Its a pain.

>>28863084
>4cyl with a hydraulic clutch
>heavy as fuck
Weakling detected.

>>28863068
so many people said it'd be hell in peak hour traffic when i manual swapped my car
finally got round to experiencing it, it was a nothingburger

>>28862990
I dont understand this either.
I always found that driving a manual in traffic is much easier than any automatic.
the forward creep is annoying as fuck, it takes 10x the effort to bring a an auto to a clean, non abrupt stop, having to apply great amount of brake pressure to stop the forward creep is rather tiring. one leg sits there and does nothing.

manual i work both legs. it feels easy. i pick a gear, sometimes i'll go to 2nd. i rarely have to use the brakes and if i do on a hill, its light pressure.

ive been living in chicago for 30+ years and ive driven to many major city centers. i much rather prefer manuals

>>28863081
try moving your legs faster

>>28862990
>women inherently lack confidence and are worried they'll stall
>boomers have bad knees and get tired quick

this is all it is

>>28862990
People don't know how manuals work, they think you should do it all in 1st while in heavy traffic.
You're supposed to switch to 2nd and coast until the guy in front of you stops.

>>28862990
I hate the feeling of chewing up my clutch for some fucker in stop/go. Otherwise, I don't care.

>>28862990
>you need to feather the clutch/gas
Nope just wait for the traffic to get moving at least 10km/hr then travel the average speed.

>>28862990
There's less go do anon, you don't have to waddle a stick around, you don't have to depress another pedal in addition to the brake and accelerator, and you don't have to coordinate all these tasks in your mind at the same time. Its more cerebral, and physical. Driving an auto is inherently easier why do you think so many normies buy autos. Yes I understand you can drive differently to mitigate the effort, but you know what' even less effort, just driving an auto instead.

Because they have terminal autotragic NPC gotta-stay-on-the-ass-of-the-car-in-front-of-me itis.
Just build a thicc buffer and idle that cunt in gear. You aren't getting there any faster or slower. So what if one or two people jump into your lane, those mouthbreathers are going to jump right back out the millisecond the other lane moves a femtosecond further in 15 seconds because of the terminal caterpillar effect.
>Feather clutch/gas
No, faggot, dump that fuck in 1st and go on holiday.

Why do people insist on tailgating in stop-go traffic. Lowest common denominator attitude.

>>28864095
>Why do people insist on tailgating in stop-go traffic.
Especially if you want to slowly coast, lane changing is annoying as fuck.
You are at a speed and distance where you could keep creeping forward until the whole lane starts to move again, someone cuts in, you have to brake.
It's not about getting there a minute earlier, it's about making driving much more stressful.

>>28863068
Honestly this.
I usually just leave my car in 1st and roll.
Often i manage to get through jam without touching the clutch.
Though i do live in a smaller city with 150k people in it

>>28862990
They are retards that dont know how to engine brake.
Autos go through pads and rotors 5 times faster and also use more fuel as most modern engines with a manual use 0l of fuel while engine braking.

>>28864120
An even smarter manual owner intentionall6 leave a huge gap between the next car and while they stop start at 0-50kmh you just coast at a comfy 40kmh and rarely if ever come to a complete stop.
A true goated driver only touches the brakes after achieving the lowest speed possible in 1st gear.

>>28864128
Bonus points if you change to neutral and only touch the brakes once the car is at a complete stop and starting to roll back slightly.

>>28862990

Build a 2-3 car gap
Put car in 1st
Idle in first gear 2-3mph
Problem solved.

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>>28864125
anything automatic with efi and a throttle position sensor will cut fuel with any kind of coasting unless you put it in neutral
>>28864128
>>28864130
>mfw coming up to a red light/car waiting at red light and it turns green/car gets going right as i creep close to its bumper never touching the brakes

>>28863081
skill issue

>>28864177
And there goes your brake pads and rotors. Auto tragic is for normies.

>>28864177
WereRabbit.
That is a hell of a movie.

>>28862990
Just bought a new manual car to tell the automakers we still want these. Today I took it through a drive through, I was worried. I didn't need to be, it was real easy. People have it in their minds that manuals are difficult to drive and for enthusiasts. Really if you can't drive a manual, you shouldn't be driving. It is a test of the bare minimum of attention and dexterity to safely drive.

Now we have all of this "safety tech" that is really there to just allow the retard class to drive. They need a bus driver and instead we put the bus driver in their car.

Driving a manual is just like riding a bicycle.

You're a kid.
You learn how to do it.
Feels great.
You're in control.
You think you're better at it than nobody else.
Then you grow up, and naturally grow out of it because you realize how pointless it is.

...Unless you have some cognitive issues and keep enjoying it indefinitely.
Or maybe you're forced to keep doing it because of your financial context.

Next time you're out in the road and you see a grownup riding a bicycle, try and figure out why he's doing it. Next time you see someone driving a manual, ask yourself the same thing.

You'll get to the same answer.
They're either going through some hard times, or they're..."special".
Or in some sad cases, both.

>>28863081
Hill assist has been around for over 10 years

>>28862990
>It's the same fuckin thing

Anyone who has actually done it can tell your bus riding ass that its not even close

>>28862990
What's worse is that people with automatics frequently creep forward because their foot isn't firm enough on the brake. Unless you're drag racing or getting road head, the manual is always superior.

>>28862990
I am by nature a slow person. Not slow as in retarded, but slow as in I like to take my time and I have no reason to rush and fret about being somewhere at a specific time. Sadly, the vast majority of people are the exact opposite, constantly stressed and rushing to whatever objectively unimportant event they have to be at. I'm not even a loner really, I do go places and do things, but I've never felt the need to rush somewhere. Just leave earlier, arrive earlier, enjoy the drive. Take a different route. I love driving, so I usually skip the highways and freeways and use the backroads.
thank you for reading my blogpost

>>28864345
For me, it's not about being in a hurry. It's about being considerate for the people that do have somewhere to be. I'm just trying to not be in the way. Traffic is a team sport, but most people aren't team players.

>>28864350
I'm very chill on the road, I rarely ever use my horn, but what absolutely pisses me off is when a driver is willing to risk their life and the lives of other drivers on the road to make it to some exit they missed or some turn they drove past. Holy shit I've had some close calls with retards like that. Just drive on and take the next turn damnit, everyone drives with their GPS on anyway.

>>28864360
"A bad driver never misses their exit."

>>28864307
lil bro writing like an ai addled facebook boomer.

>>28863081
>apply parking brake
>release as clutch begins to bite

Side question, my Subaru is automatic but has that weird manual mode with just the +/- buttons. What is that for? To larp as someone who can drive a stick?

>>28864424
Basically. There are use cases like maintaining power while slowing in to a turn but usually the implementation is too clunky to be better than just learning to use the pedals to tell the transmission what you want.

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>>28864309
skill issue

>>28864448
meant for >>28863081

>>28864447
Gotcha. The main use case I've seen for that kind of system is just to get out of deep snow

>>28864424
It's for several things:
>Towing, if applicable
>Mudding / offroading where an upshift could slow you down enough to get you stuck
>Actually driving like a race driver
>Larping as a race driver
>Diagnosing faults, maybe a 5500rpm vtec solenoid, without having to go full throttle because an auto would upshift before that
>Just hearing the pleasant sounds of the engine in midrange
>Some uncommon transmissions like the Smart "automated manual" or whatever have extremely harsh upshifts, in semiauto mode you can lift the throttle before "manually" upshifting so the car doesn't buck every shift.
>In corners if you're toggling, goosing, lifting, or feathering the throttle automatic might shift when you don't want it to, completely ruining your corner and potentially sending you into a tree if you were at the limit.

>>28864221
>And there goes your brake pads and rotors
wut. you can coast in gear in an auto too, or downshift for some engine braking...