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Mx-5, Miata, Roadster, Fiata General
Can words describe the fragrance of the very breath of spring?
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>>28902139
Autumn (fall) here. Weather is pretty temperate on this island, so summer and winter aren't extreme.
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Automatic miata fag here, some days I really want a manual, other days I like to pretend I'm in a race car and use the paddle shifters. Some days I really want an NC, other days I envy my neighbors NB, some days I wish I had an MGB.
At the end of the year what I really want is to not live in a gay country filled with grey skies and roads that only go straight with no changes in elevation.
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>>28903062
>some days I wish I had an MGB.
As someone who has both an MGB and an NA Miata, I feel qualified to say that you should probably put a pin in that and aim to get one one day. I fuckin' love my 'B, probably more than my Miata.
>gay country filled with grey skies and roads that only go straight with no changes in elevation
Where are you suffering, Anon?
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>>28903105
The car meet I was at a week ago had loooooads of MGBs lol, got to the point where we walked past some, although there was an MGC and a V8 MGB. Also lots of Beetles. It was weird thinking hmm this isn't that rare.
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>>28903225
I know what you mean, out of all the thousands and thousands of cars I pass in a month, I'll see maybe 1 MGB if I'm lucky, and it's usually the same one, yet if you go to a car meet/show, hundreds of the fuckers suddenly burst forth from their hiding places.
It makes sense, though, as from what I can tell, MGBs have survived the best out of any classic car in the UK, with howmanyleft.co.uk reporting a total of around 25,000 registered on the road in 2025. Makes sense to me, considering that they are an enthusiast car, of which over half a million were built worldwide. MGCs are a bit rarer, with only 8,999 having been produced and only 1,202 surviving on the road, and factory built V8s are the rarest of the lot, with only 2,591 being built and 736 still on the road as of 2025, mine being one of them.
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a 3d printed headlight cover would probably break and fly off at highway speeds and kill a toddler behind you right
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>>28904713
Print it out of TPU and use a metal bushing or double washers for mounting.
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>>28905089
Oh yeah just look at it. Bending like the dimensionally stable slut it is.
Having said that, enjoy sanding it or coating it with a 2k, let alone 1k.
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desu auto miata anon if you're gonna get an auto, if you absolutely need an auto for some insane godforsaken reason, there's only one choice. ND2 with a supercharger. the auto can take the extra power whereas the manual often can't, so if you're going to get the worst transmission, you might as well pair it with a more potent engine so aren't completely consumed by the inevitable regret, and have the chance to realize the value of swapping in an NC or walter motorsports tranny
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>>28905438
Replace the valve stem seals, or live with it and top the oil off as needed, though the oil going through the exhaust can kill your catalytic converter. It can be done with the head still on the car but it's not a job I would recommend for a beginner at all.
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Accidental meet-up (I just found that empty parking spot) in Florence.
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>>28905444
really? just from sitting the valve seals will go bad?
could this be anything else?
ive had no issues over the last 7 years. i park it like this every winter
pic is my valve train. i keep it clean. engine is under 80k miles
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>>28904759
cute
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>>28905628
how do i verify that its the valve seals?
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>>28905629
You kind of already did. Blue smoke after sitting that goes away after driving it isn't really caused by anything else besides valve stem seals that are starting to go. If it didn't go away, then you might suspect the piston rings, a PCV issue, or even valve steam seals that have simply disintegrated completely. Short of pulling the head off and pouring oil into it then watching if it leaks out of the valves, there isn't really much else to do to test them.
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>>28905691
i did a comp test, same results as the day i bought it
all spark plugs looked like it ran hella rich
it ran very rich when i first started it up.
could this be from the 15 minute initial idle or was this from previous driving?
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>>28905571
>How do people who live in grid flat cities have fun with their Miata?
You don't, especially if it's only sunny 3 months of the year. I should've bought a project, not a brand new miata. Still would take it over a normal car any day. I actually wish I had places to go with it, I just like driving it in circles altough that's starting to get expensive with the ND needing 91 octane.
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I'll look into doing day trips.
The lack of nature and curvy roads nearby makes me want to move out to Portland or something. I'm in the biggest city in the Midwest currently and anything fun I have to drive at least an hour out before I even get to them
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>>28905967
Buying from an older person who got it for his midlife crises apparently and now can't get in the car due to hip issues. His son is selling it for him. Guy seems nice enough.
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>>28905980
>can't get in the car due to hip issues
this is why you have fun while you're young even if it kills you
car looks fucking beautiful
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>>28906148
Yeah I'm trying to get into this mentality. Plus I've been wanting one since I was like 20. What sucks is I probably won't receive the car until the end of April. Leaving it in a another state makes me nervous but the seller seems to be alright with helping. I'm heading out to sign on Saturday
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Anyone have whirring noises after a timing belt replacement that went away? I'm getting it mostly when accelerating in first and 3rd gear.
All signs point to an over tensioned belt, but I'm pretty sure I adjusted the tensioner pulley correctly while in there (loosened the tensioner at TDC, then brought the slack down towards the pulley before tightening back up)
It's a continental belt and I replaced the tensioner and idler pulley while I was in there.
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>>28906535
when I changed the belt on my 1.6, it took all sorts of hell to get it on and needed zero tension from the spring (and probably didn't get any since the belt was so tight). I followed the proper procedure of spinning the crank by 1.6 times or whatever to move the slack around...
I didn't have a tension measuring tool at that point, wish I did.
Anyhow, the point is, it made a lot of noise and didn't go away. Maybe it would've after a bit. I suspect the belt was NOT correct even though the part # and all of the shit said it was, it should not have been THAT difficult. I changed the belt on a 1.8 vvt I ended up swapping in and it was not nearly as difficult and does not make noise...
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>>28906709
I got mine from the flyin miata 91-93 timing kit. I would HOPE that the parts are correct.
The belt was a little tricky to get around the tensioner at first, but there was still plenty of slack between the cam gears after, so I don't think the belt size or tensioner location are an issue.
I just cracked open the middle timing cover and the tensioner is about center with the bolt, so the spring is definitely doing something. I'll try loosening it and running it through again to see if it's any further left. I suppose it's possible I slid the tensioner over to the right a big when torquing the nut.
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>>28906728
good luck. that was a job from hell for me due to the water pump gasket. had to do it 3 times lmao.
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>buy and install reroute kit back in ancient times
>try to find replacement gasket for the new thermostat
>doesnt fit exactly
>kinda tears a near the stud
>tighten it anyway
>doesnt leak for now
welp, glad the temperature issue is gone and kinda made me replace every part of the cooling system. Now i can drive worry free.
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help I accidentally pulled my engine and transmission out
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>>28906867
Perk of living in Texas, I suppose? My other NB doesn't have any rust there either.
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I've come to the conclusion that the ND is actually too powerful, I can't even enjoy the exhaust note on my car because within a few seconds I'm already doing near 100km/hr in 3rd gear from a full stop. The 1st gear power boost when you get near 4500 rpm just launches the car and since the ratios are short you're still making peak power after shifting. I have to basically skip first gear to enjoy the long acceleration sound, and still it sounds kind of anemic and not really nice with a straight piped exhaust. It's gone too far away from being a small british roadster.
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>>28907104
turbos seem like such a headache. But there really aren't great options for power besides that...
>>28907056
that's tough. Those are all great cars. part of me would say brz or gr corolla because if you're in an accident you probably have a better chance of not being completely btfo but at the same time that's just being neurotic.
Those cars do have the benefit of more seats, though. Maybe sometime you want to drive the fun car with a kid or two in it as well.
Decisions...
>tfw rx350 and cx5 and deciding between those same cars too
I'm thinking a brz. I don't want to get caught with a 2-seater like a miata when i suddenly need to pick up the kid or some shit...even though those are some of the most coolest looking cars on the market right now.
The GR Corolla is a close second but I think it's pricier and it might just remind me of my old civic type r...which was a great car but for some reason I just want a brz. and used 2.4L aren't terribly expensive.
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>>28906864
meth is a helluva drug
>>28906928
that's why I'd love a ND with the 1.5
>>28907056
I have a GRC and a NB2 Miata and both of them put shit eating grins on my face whenever I take a drive, but the Miata is more fun, at least until the tarmac turns to dirt. Have had a ND too, but I like the NB more for various stupid reasons. If I were forced to pick one it would be the GRC, it's just more versatile
BRZ has everything right but the engine. it's just a turd
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My new NB1 doesn't have any gas in the AC, as tested by poking something into the OC line valves and it lightly hissing for a second then nothing.
Is this 28yo car likely to just need a regas or is a leak confirmed? The oldies in my life talk about regassing the AC like it's standard practice so I was thinking about picking up a can of HyChill and seeing what happens.
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This rascally Miata will curse you with the skid demon when you least expect it, unless you have the right charm to ward off it's powers. You do keep a charm in your Miata, right?
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>>28907426
The only reason the AC refrigerant will ever be low is if there's a leak, it can't get burned like engine oil. You might be able to find it just by looking for oily spots on the AC system, otherwise while it's already empty, put about 15 mL of PAG oil with UV dye in it first and then recharge it. Depending on the size of the leak you might need to drive it for a week or two before any dye comes out that you can use a UV flashlight to make it easy to spot. The most common leak sources are the discharge hose, service port valve cores, and the O rings on the hoses that go into the compressor.
t. AC tech
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>>28907549
>t. AC tech
Help me! I have a 04 mint with 30k miles on it and the ac isn't bussin. Like the compressor kicks on and cycles seemingly normally and there's juice in the lines but the air out of the vents isnt very cold. I have another 04 clapped with like 200k on it and it works better and I never touched the ac before. Any ideas? Chat gpt said it's some expansion valve or some shit.
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>>28907429
I have the auto and it's unevenly spaced, 1-2-3 is close together and then a gulf between 3 and 4 and 5 and then 5-6 is close together. Or maybe it was 1-2, 3-4, 5-6. Either way it's not good, it was made for high speed acceleration from a stop up to cruising speed and then low fuel usage at cruising speed.
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>>28907617
Both fans working? Hard to diagnose AC performance over text without a set of gauges on it. It's possible it's just low needing a recharge, with just enough in it to engage but not really do anything. Moisture in the system can also do that which is also solved by an evac and recharge during the vacuum pull, which boils any moisture off. I've also seen the filter-drier clog but it doesn't look like that's available separately from the condenser for an NB2, unless the one on rockauto just shows the wrong picture (it shows the NB1 style drier).
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Mariner blue or classic red?
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>>28907617
also when you go to fill it, remember not to take the gauge manifold off the inlet valve after running vacuum.
my dumb ass released so much refrigerant into the atmosphere because i wasn't thinking and didn't realize schrader valves is only meant to hold positive pressure.
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>>28908049
>my dumb ass released so much refrigerant into the atmosphere
Flashback to when I unbolted the "coolant" lines going into the cabin, and ended up giving myself an R134a bukkake. I completely forgot my car had A/C because I never used it. 3 years later and I still haven't refilled it.
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>>28908049
Kek, thanks for your help Miata AC nonny!
>>28907903
Vcp (very cute post)
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>>28908238
I think they fixed the rod knock issue that the fa20 had, but the fa24 has rtv problems (maybe fixed on newer models?) and severe oil starvation issues when taking right corners hard. there are a bunch of aftermarket bandaids but idk if anyone's come up with a proven dry sump. even aside from that it's just not an inspiring engine
the GRC has its own issues with oil cooling and diff cooling when being tracked on warm days, particularly at high altitudes. both have aftermarket fixes (oil cooler, exhaust wrap, diff cooler, and a real diff temp sensor instead of the retarded guesswork the stock ECU does) but it's kind of lame that Toyota didn't really address either in the refresh. clutch kinda sucks too, even in my '25. can't imagine how bad the original clutch was, it has a very bad rep in the GRC community
ND2/3 likes to eat 3rd gear tho that seems to be something that shows up fairly quickly, and Mazda has been good about replacing them. they really should just put the NC trans in there but would get bad press for the 21kg weight increase
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>forza horizon japan is out
>whole generation of kids fall in love with the miat
>sell it for gorrilion dollars (nah never selling it)
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Reporting back. Redid the tension a few times and checked the deflection was in spec before torquing the pulley down.
There's still a slight whistle, but it's so faint that I probably wouldn't have noticed if this was the first time. Going to call it a success.
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>>28908647
nice. Not a fun job to have to redo a few times.
>>28908405
I think the GRC is out of consideration. I've heard they ride even worse than a brz which I wasn't expecting. I'll need to sit in a brz and an ND and decide.
Still have my NA, at least. but old car shit breaking is annoying.
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>>28909018
I drove an Fk8 for a while and never thought it was too rough. If it's equivalent to that I don't see the problem...especially as a fun weekend car...maybe I should test drive one of those too, fuck. It is significantly more expensive than the other two, though (looking at the used market).
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>>28906861
Good to see those bezels getting a second life in the 3d printing space. The originals were made by East Bear Sports and were really expensive. Nobody much bought them.
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just got mine back from the tire shop and the tech pointed out the rear left corner height is sagging
what are the good coil springs that won't lower it or make it look like a monster truck?
also they said some of my calipers were fucked. i'm pissed because i replaced them a few years ago with nugeon ones that were supposed to be powder-coated, but for some reason, unrelated to whether they were front or back, a couple of them corroded to dookie already and my brake fluid has been slowly disappearing for the last 10 years
also my coolant is disappearing evn though i replaced the radiator (after the stock one exploded) and hoses last year. can't find drips but i suspect the shitty copper heater core pipes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31H4daHtr3k
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>>28907903
I have yellow, but if I were to rewind my life to where yellow wasn't an option, I would choose red.
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>>28907903
Marina Green
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>>28909210
it's just for the shot. seats like that irl would break your neck
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>Nothing to do today
>Might as well get some beer at 10am
>Spring, everything is green
>End up driving all around town for an hour and a half just because
>WOT from some lights, a few highway downshift redline pulls, slid the rear out through a few intersections
>Truggs try to mess with me
>Compacts try to play with me
>I just want to drive more
Goddamnit I love miatas. After 5 years without one, I'm glad to be back. There's no point to this post, but these cars are everything I say they are, what a great time.
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>>28909836
I don't know what to tell you other than that's just false. Literally just read the manual. The amount of power that the engine makes has nothing to do with it. Is a 2l engine making 180 hp supposed to be some feat of engineering? Fact is, that this is basically still just a mazda3 economy car engine with the redline bumped up a little. The engine was designed around regular fuel despite the high compression ratio.
You can of course put whatever you want in it, Mazda engineers have told you that it's not required though. Arguing that it is is just ridiculous.
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>>28909900
>After 5 years without one, I'm glad to be back
One of my greatest fears is that I'll end up having to sell my Miata. Kudos to you for getting back in the game, I wish you many more years of happy Miata-ing.
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>>28910130
>One of my greatest fears is that I'll end up having to sell my Miata.
Some chick rear ended my NA on Halloween '19. I had it 11 years, it was flood damaged in Hurricane Katrina and I restored the fuck out of it, probably spent $15-20k, got $900 from full-coverage insurance. It can disappear any day.
I'm so happy to have one again, I was starting to think it was over.
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What pads do you guys run on track?
Going to run my nd2 soon for the summer so I was looking at EBC yellows and hawk dtc-30s potentially.
Ordered some motul rbf600s too for fluid. Otherwise she's stock.
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DAMN BRAT
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>>28911088
I use yellow stuff and RF650. 225 asymmetric 6 tyre.
Flat rear made big difference on Nürburgring and driving on autobahn.
I have stock Bilstein's and suspension for sure not made for fast tracks, going to install tecna's this summer.
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ITS MINE
Flew out to do the deal, now have to arrange transport. Owner was a great guy. Got to drive it for a bit and didn't stall on flat ground as a first time manual driver (inclines killed me though). Can't wait until I get it back at my state.
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Put in gwr as well.
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>I use yellow stuff and RF650
Happy with performance on road and track? Let me know how the tecna's go.
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>>28911157
A lot better on street than Brembo pads on stock brakes and when gets some heat brakes even more amazing, you can feel how they bite into brake disk.
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>>28911088
EBC Yellow Stuff isn't great for track use, and EBC says as much on their website, something that wasn't mentioned on BOFI's website when I bought them. Bear in mind that my track car is an NA that's virtually stock performance wise, with only the NS-2R tyres making any appreciable difference to braking ability. My first track day with them was at brands hatch, and I got brake fade coming into Paddock Hill Bend after a few laps, something that never happened with the Brembo HP2001's I had previously, and the second track day was a Thruxton with similar results, though nowhere near as dramatic as Brands. I have yet to have a third day out with them, but I think I'm going to be swapping them out for something more suitable. They seem to be a good pad for exactly what they're marketed as - a fast road pad - but they cannot withstand lap after lap of abuse.
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>>28911156
I'm gonna sound naive and I don't mean to be but why did you fly out for that
For a mint NA i could see that but for an NC? Even if it's good condition I don't see why. Just get an ND at that point from the dealership
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>>28911342
He gave me a nice tour of the mountain roads instead
>>28911347
As much as I love the older gens, they're not practical at all and finding one in good condition and then taking care of it isn't easy. It's also a 30+ yo car. This is a much nicer dailyable car. Also the hardtop roof goes all the way down in the NCs. I think if you try to find a nice NC2/3, you'd be surprised at how difficult it can be
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6AN upgrade in the tank complete. DW200 pump and 3/8 e85 feed and return line. Need to pull my OEM and transfer the fuel level sensor over and de-pin the stock plug and run 12g direct to the pump.
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Do you all think the NE interior will be similar to what Mazda is putting in their cuckovers nowadays?
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good one
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>>28912168
NE is never going to happen, japan's demographic bomb finally caught up to them and mazda can't afford to make another miata.
Also ND is pretty much perfect, the only thing I want is slightly wider seats and a little bit more leg room.
>>28912246
I wish I could be as dumb as these people and get such pleasure from material posessions.
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>>28912250
>thinks the only reason people buy a slow car is because they're poor
>acknowledges that there are faster cars at the same price point
>doesn't consider that his initial assessment might be wrong
does it hurt to be this stupid?
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>>28912250
>Miata is too slow to be fun
>What are you retards even doing???
Drive one and you'll see.
I made the mistake of going straight to a miata from a ~3400lb 250hp turbocharged car without stopping at any of the usual goal posts along the way (corvette, 350z, BRZ, M2 etc) and now I can never drive anything else again because I would immediately feel the weight of anything heavier.
>and every one of you is coping because youre poor
Are you sure you're not the one who's coping? Your overweight car will never feel as good as a miata.
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>>28912257
>Wildly impracticable two seater convertible dedicated sports car is slower than a fucking RAV4.
Just for that, you get to sit there and read all the retarded cars that are faster than your miata.
Nissan Altima
Ford F150 (A literal fucking truck btw)
BMW X5 SUV Base Model
Subaru WRX with a fucking CVT
BRZ/86 in literally any configuration
etc
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Okay, Ill give it a shot. Everyone says they just FEEL fun but its so hard to believe that with the spec sheet. Some cars do transcend the sticker though, like the Giulia is a piece of shit on paper but truly majestic to drive. Ill trust you mate, Ill test drive one on Wednesday.
Unironically if its good Ill buy it, Im told to just get the Club since it would be a second car, does that sound right? Apparently it comes with the LSD.
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>>28912250
>What are you retards even doing???
Having fun~
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>spec sheet racer
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>>28912366
tfw i drove a 600hp f150 raptor and fucking thought it was boring despite it being a missile
fast new trucks are so gay lel im sure if it was a f150 lighting with the supercharged 5.4 it wouldve been more fun
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>>28912533
Flyin' Miata has Konis on sale right now, and they include new bump stops for free. They are well worth the money. I have the special actives and love them. Don't cheap out on your suspension, you'll regret it.
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>>28911156
congrats man that's fucking awesome
>>28912565
jesus wtf, even on sale they're spendier than 949 tecnas, which are much better in every respect
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>>28912674
Are you looking at one of the handling packages? Just the Koni yellows by themselves is showing $979 for me, while the cheapest Tecnas are $1399. The NA stage 1 handling package isn't such a bad deal at $1208 though, it adds in their FM springs and you definitely have to get stiffer springs to match Koni yellows' stiffer damping, can't use stock ones. I don't get why the version that adds top hats in is $300 more, I'd get those elsewhere for less. They even say they're just KYBs which are $51 each on rockauto right now.
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>>28913018
You could say I have been known to work on Miatas from time to time
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>>28913018
The last time I did any work to my Miata was to change my front pads, and that was last year. Also noticed that one of my pads was quite heavily worn compared to the rest, so the caliper is probably sticking; I guess a Little Big Brake Kit will be in my future at some point~
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>>28913018
/mg/ and /dbt/ are probably the only legit groups on /o/
Everyone else is just ragebaiting and shitposting buss riders
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>>28913510
Never had a brand new one cracked open before but I'd guess so. It's a 120k mile engine I'm resealing, it's had good oil change history so there's no sludge inside of it. Just what the metal surface looks like.
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>>28902139
well guys i just got a new job with a significant pay increase. i refuse to buy new but i can buy any used miata i want. should i buy a PHRT NC miata or a newer ND RF?
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>>28912907
yeah I was looking at the version with the springs and top hats, since that's equivalent to what you get with the tecnas. at that price point, I think the fm kit should have the extended rear top hats. when my miata was running the konis it really needed them, and it was barely even lowered. but I guess fm wants you to spend another $300 for those
>>28913581
nc is a better sports car imo. much stouter transmission, forged internals on nc2/3 engines, more room for wide rubber (can go to 255 stock, tho anything wider than 235 is probably pointless for stock engine), hydraulic steering, 2.5l swap is ezpz
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>>28913576
You need to test drive them, the ND is a very tight car. I'm 6ft but all legs so I just about fit in the drivers seat, but not in the passengers. The seats are also very narrow. The NDs looks are killer though and modern up to date electronics isn't bad either, that's something you need to consider. If you want a nanny car that has a camera and sensors watching all the time or a purist experience.
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I gotta say, driving down the highway this morning in the middle of a thunderstorm and then through the fog afterwards with the top down puts the ND RF in a class of its own. That buffeting everyone always complains about makes an air bubble in the cabin and keeps rain/ road spray out and the heat in. I always see people driving around with their cloth tops up when my roof is down.
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>>28914159
>Can you drive it comfortably at -6 with the roof down assuming you got a jacket and headwear on?
Can't say as it has literally never gotten that cold here in recorded history, but I have driven it with the top down at just under freezing before and was okay with my coat, beanie, and gloves. That heater gets quite toasty
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Anyone have a clue what the cut cable in pic related is on my new NB? I was bumming around behind the kick panel and noticed it dangling there..
Also my master is damp where the pedal enters, I'd be up for a new one right?
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I gotta ask since I have no idea about prices for miatas, but are any of the cars here even worth their price, or am I better off importing? For example this one: https://www.avto.net/Ads/details.asp?id=22172383&display=Mazda%20MX-5
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>>28914277
Looks aftermarket to me, I'd try to follow the two ends of cut wire you can see there back and see if they lead to anything. Without knowing where they go, it looks like an aftermarket alarm system that someone half assed removing to me. Never been under the dash of a RHD NB, however.
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>>28914076
i've never been in an RF so i can't compare it but it can still get pretty warm and toasty in my ND with the windows up.
>>28914159
>-6 with the roof down
>>28914518
>-37 top down
won't it damage the soft top if you put it down in below freezing temps?
the coldest i've tried it was 41 degrees F (in accordance with the manual).
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>>28914983
>soft top damage
Vinyl yes, canvas no (assuming it's dry, and with a glass window.) You could also just lower the soft top in warmer conditions (like in your garage) and leave it down until it's that cold if you're that concerned.
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>>28914983
>won't it damage the soft top if you put it down in below freezing temps?
>the coldest i've tried it was 41 degrees F (in accordance with the manual).
I did wash car and top in -20C, put down top and drove for 6h, spend closing frozen top at least 20min and really wanted to pee.
0 fuck given, me drive everywhere any time top down.
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>>28915448
The seals on the windows have the ability to hold water for a while. After I wash it I roll down the windows and wedge drying towels down into them keep the windows down for 2 hours and let them air out. Then when they come up dry I clean them