>>529642645
Our cameras have gotten better?

>>529642645
>Why exactly is this?
Not enough White people.

>>529642645
NASA was doomed to failure the moment they were forced to accept the SLS program, which had nothing to do with making a functional launch vehicle and everything with just keeping makework jobs related to the Shuttle program going.

>>529642645
We lost the technology to produce enough tinfoil to wrap our landers in. It's just not possible anymore. These things happen.

>>529642771
Are you telling me it was faked here?
>>529642812
Not enough white people or not enough Jewish producers

>>529642890
Makes no sense to me.
>>529642904
Kek

>>529642645
One of the most retarded shill narratives. The technical knowledge of how to go to the moon was not lost, just the equipment and infrastructure of the specific Apollo program that did it

>>529642645
Humans can't survive the Van Allen radiation belt. It's all a lie

>>529642645
>we have more advanced technology
Not necessarily.

>>529642645
>100 years ago
>100
>Now we have higher technology
>higher

>>529642645
We lost the ability. Mutts are far weaker now than back then. For every dollar spent on space they got like 4 back. basically you lost the ability to do. All the skilled people left or died and they had to start from scratch.

The shuttle was meant to be a new age in space light but was far to complex and the could never operate outside of Low earth orbit. Russia had a liquid fuelled rocket for the Buran that could do 100 tonnes to orbit but we lost that too.

Basically e regressed as a species. SLS is a glorified jobs program using shit from shuttle and cost more per launch than the entire falcon program and I think the entire starship program so far. Even if starship never works we can use it disposably and still be a huge jump

>>529643004
They literally have higher technology now bro this has to be sheer cope at this point everything since then has double in technical advancements.
>>529643019
All over

>>529642645
The secret space program has been doing shit on the moon that they would have a VERRRRRY hard time explaining if they went back

>>529642904
Very true. I checked the price of Reynolds wrap and cardboard. Surely the ability to build another lunar lander is beyond our capabilities

>>529643001
The SLS is a rocket system which reuses tons of components and technologies from the Shuttle's booster state. It was never a good option or fit for purpose but NASA was forced to adopt it by Congress because the program kept a bunch of worthless factories making Shuttle components running.

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>>529642645
It's all funding. There's no real reason to go to the moon, so it gets kicked around to fund big contractors.

>>529642645
I predicted this a year ago. When I first saw the mission spec for Artemis and heard all the surrounding propaganda about diversity and inclusion I knew this thing was never going to work. The US Space program is a lot more like Star Trek than we'd like to believe... a brief initial run that, while forward looking and interesting, became popular much later for all the wrong reasons, a long gap during which nobody seemed to care, and then a slew of try-hard series expansions that never quite delivered on the initial premise. Problem is nobody can make a reasoned case for why we should go back. There's nothing on the Moon for us and no reason to go. Never really was.

>>529642645
>100 years ago we went to the moon.
1969 - 57 years ago.

>>529642645
It never happened

Between then and now they discovered the Van Allen radiation belt yet 60s era rockets could pass through it

>>529642645
The only reasonable explanation is that it was all faked.

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>>529642645
We chose the smartphones and social media branch, it doesn't open for any new space exploration

>>529643320
This is what I've heard too. The sls nonsense basically required custom one off solutions for every launch and with the amount of tech in things these days that made complexity increase exponentially. One thing breaks in testing and you have to start all over again.

I also heard theyre going to switch to a more modular reusable model going forward that doesnt have these issues going forward. Should be much cheaper but like you said it means the money interests wont make as much. Add to all this that proposals problems and changes move at the speed of dc bureaucracy and thats why so.ething that would have been course corrected for in under 1 year in the private sector has taken this long to address.

In real terms, NASA had 2–3× more buying power per year during Apollo than it does now, and a vastly larger share of national resources. The agency today operates on a fraction of the resources it had when it put humans on the Moon.

>>529643695
they mapped the van allen belts with the explorer probes before the apollo program

it's either space or browns

>>529642947
Not enough White people.

>>529642645
Look at SpaceX mission plan (amount of launches needed, required starship specs), look at their deliverables (when did they hit milestones, when was it projected, which did they not hit at all) and it's obvious why. It was never realistic, it was always either utopian/retarded or a con job.

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>>529642645
>100 years ago we went to the moon.
>We went to the moon in 1926

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>>529642645
>NASA fans
A group gayer than collectors of FunkoPops!™

>>529642645
Firstly DEI has completely nuked Nasa's abilities by filling it with diversity hires, secondly some material technologies made during the golden age of america were actually lost due to miss management, thirly a significant lack of funds

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>>529642812
>White *German Rocket Scientist* people
*ftfy

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>>529644334
DEI in universities has nuked the training of the engineers who would build it.
DEI in lower education has forced the people who would have wanted to do it into menial labor positions instead.

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behold this chart of nasas funding, there is your perfect explanation. they accomplished their main objectives then shut it down because the funding was pulled. space shuttle came along and it sucked and failed to be the low cost access to space it promised to be. then the sls came along and its an overpriced scam from legacy contractors to fleece the taxpayer again. no big mystery.

>we lost the technology
you don't even know what that means. it means the saturn rocket program was shut down, the facilities that made the rocket and the machines that made the machines that made that rokcet were abandoned or re-tooled for other purposes. just like we "lost the technology" to build model t cars. there's a whole production line you can't just dust off a blueprint and be up and rolling with a new rocket in a month.

you'll pretend you don't understand and dishonestly parrot "we lost the technology" like dishonest little shits anyways.

>>529644241
It was a lot closer to 1926 than 2026.

>>529643627
There is plenty of helium3 in the moon, if we unlock nuclear fusion there could be a sort of gold rush for helium3

>>529644684
Okay nice now explain spaceX

>>529642645
Public institutions will never function as well as private for profit entities in a low trust multicultural society. Corpos are just playing catch up on space travel, give them a few more years.

It's the same way we lost the technology to build the pyramids. Shit happens

>>529642645
>there has to be a perfect explanation
we replaced Nazi and white american rocket scientists with DEI hires? Also there was no real point in going to the moon other than to race the soviets. We do more launch than ever for shit that matters. NASA was always a PR/cover program for the real, militarized space program.

>>529642645
DEI and demographics.

>>529644568
That's NASA

>>529644765
In the same way that a D- is close to an A

>>529644837
you think this is some kind of gotcha but it isn't

spacex is a private space company without nasas bloated bureaucratic overhead. they developed a semi-reusable rocket, the falcon 9, that has successfully landed over 500 times and is responsible for over half of all rocket launches in the world today.

spacex is building the starship, which will be the worlds first fully reusable rocket. a massive but difficult achievement. they are taking the approach of building and testing many prototypes to get there. they have been contracted to return to the moon, but obviously the rocket isn't ready yet.

musk proposes optimistic timelines for everything because he has aspergers and thinks he can only give a timeline based on if nothing goes wrong because he cant guess what will go wrong. but something is always going to go wrong which is where most people would pad their timelines with that in mind.

>>529645459
SpaceX also takes a significant portion of NASA's budget because america is retarded

>>529642645
The people operating said tech are of much lower calibre.

>>529642645
You have insanely more computing power, wtf is going on seriously, it should be incredibly easy to repeat?

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The moon is what keeps us chained in this prison planet. They aren't going to let anyone go there you could escape. Y'all have a seriously fluoridated take on what the moon really is .

>>529645562
and why is that bad? you'll get more for your tax dollar with spacex then nasa. and nasa doesn't build rockets anyways they farm that out, plus their bloated bureaucracy to locksneed and boeing who also have their own bloated bureaucracy on top of that and love to scam the shit out of taxpayers and under-deliver on everything. at least spacex delivers actual results with falcon 9 which is more affordable than any other options, and pushes the boundaries with some real ambition trying to build starship. which if successful could lower cost to space 100x ushering in a new space age.

>why can't we go back to the moon
Either we didn't go or we have become subtsantially more stupid in that time.
While our population is dumber, my inclination is to believe the US desired a propaganda victory over the Soviets.

>>529645893
Either that or there were much less safety regulations at the time and they winged it. Most likely what you said tho

>>529642645
Profit motive

Before we needed to upstage the soviets but with the USSR gone we've dropped any pretense of giving a shit about the scientific or exploratory value of going into space because the cheapskate richfags who run our government dont see any way to profit off it.

>>529642645
>Why exactly is this?
A rat done bit his sister Nell, because whitey on the moon, you racist chud.

>>529644009
>in other words there have been no efficiency gains since 1969 while computer technology and manufacturing capability dwarf what was available
Come on anon

>>529642645
They lost the technology in the same way Ford motors lost the technology to make the model T. The infrastructure to make a moon rocket/lander is gone. Coiple that with the fact that funding is way lower now and that there really isn't much reason to send people there, what can be done which couldn't be done with remote control.

>>529644648
>>529644959
See
>>529644684

Richfags decided space exploration was pointless and a waste of money. You voted for this.

>>529646026
I though they going there again to make a permanent base? Nobody gives a shit about just going there againa and fucking off.

>>529642645
No human has ever left LEO. Simple as.

>>529646165
You posted that retarded shit twice now.
Manufacturing a model T is easier than ever today, it would be the same result but substantially more efficient to make.
Boomers can undertake such projects with just fibreglass.
Most people don't want to make Model Ts though, they make cars that are faster, safer, and handle better. The tooling for original model Ts being gone doesn't affect the car industry, they moved on.
Yet space travel hasn't moved on, weird.

>>529642645
I rather not lose astronauts just for flare. Get the calculations right and prototypes verified before sending them off. We can't have another challenger blowing up.

>>529642645
>make hyperspecialized program to accomplish hyperspecialized goal
>20 years of a bunch of dudes that worked in military aviation having to basically lab out space-flight through trial and error as training for this one very specific goal
>they accomplish specific goal
>instead of getting to train a new generation capable of going beyond, program defunded, turned into PR stunt and near-Earth propaganda machine
>60 years later all the original expertise used to go to the moon died with those that did it or they’re senile
>have to completely rebuild the human capital and expertise back from the ground up
>oh and a lot of the designs were written on paper and were never digitized and enough has been lost to make much of it useless

It’s not “we can’t go back.” It’s that we can’t go back easily. It scares people not because of “muh fake moon landing” but because it shows how fragile niche expertise is and how society is basically in a near constant battle against entropy and inevitable collapse (the “people” protesting that NASA money could have gone to welfare are an example of such agents of doom).

>>529643695
We knew about the Van Allen belt back then. Giving yourself a dangerous dose of radiation is worth it to be the first man on the moon. Giving yourself a dangerous dose of radiation is less worth it to be the 20th.

>>529645882
You do not get more for you tax dollars with spaceX and the only reason NASA doesn't build rockets anymore is because their funding is cut. NASA brings 80B per year to the US economy because they share their technologies with other US companies.

>>529644009
>i am a glownigger i have to lie
we know

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>>529642645
Nobody went to the moon
We all know this
Stop falling for basic bitch masonic psyops

>>529642645
How about it's very expensive and you mutt are most of the time reducing the Nasa budget instead of dedicating more funds?

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>>529644247
NASA would NEVER stoop to using Photoshop

>>529646757
None of those people believe in heliocentrism m8

>>529642904
>>529643293
it would be fun to create an entirely fake mission.
like make it all online. have twitter posts announcing it, AI footage of a launch, detailed pictures of a lander, mockups like a trainset with tiltshift, create an entire thing but never leave your room.

>>529642645
>Now we have higher technology we still cannot go.
Retard.
You having faster internet and smartphone 100x more powerful than Apollo onboard computer means jack shit.
During the Cold War the best White men banded together, made their own tech because thy couldn't just use COTS shit and flexed on Ruskies after getting their asses handed to them by Gagarin.
It was a gamble but also gigantic historical event that will be remembered for millenia to come unless we nuke ourselves into stone age again.
Now fast forward to today.
There's no Cold War, no Space Race no claim for any and all 'first' in space anymore.
Just NASA full of diversity hires and absolutely thankless mission that won't bring global acclaim or recognition because we've been there already.
But if they fuck it up they would become a fucking global laughingstock for decades to come.
Now look at Boeing's Starliner '''''''performance''''''' or Elon ''It Was Totally Meant To Blow Up'' Musk's and tell me you'd put your career in their ''capable'' hands or try to stall for as long as humanly possible so it's not your fault when it all blows up in someone's face.

>>529642645
>>529642812
take the win. this was always going to be a diversity op. jew astronaut, female astronaut, black commander astronaut. if any white man would go it's only so they have an expendable in case of aliens. its better we leave the moon to the chinese for now.

>>529646448
to manufacture the model t, in its original form, at scale, and not a fiberglass one off replica, would involve having to rebuild the entire model t assembly line, which is lost technology because nobody even builds the machines that made the machines that made the machines that made the machines in an original model t factory anymore.

instead we build new modern cars on new modern assembly lines. we do the same with rockets, but our modern rockets are not designed with the capacity to go all the way to the moon, except the sls which sucks and the starship which is still in development.

and it was just an example of what "lost the technology" means so you can stop claiming it means something different and retarded

> funding cut
> MUCH lower risk tolerance
thats all there is to it. If they actually wanted, they could go to the moon next year

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>>529642645
>Now we have higher technology
Not in current year and in this timeline.

>>529642645
It's like in civ when you just get your gunners but they're kinda shit and the other guy still has his fleet of knights and you get recked.


I'm just kidding. The real reason is that the old technology had skilled craftsmen that could make things using techniques that aren't written anywhere really...and who are now all dead.

>>529642645
Here is your answers :
https://www.bitchute.com/video/steen3kRqNxL

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>>529642645
boringly, it requires a lot of infrastructure to do, which all takes time and manpower the government doesn't want to spend money on when it can instead just use NASAs architected failure to justify giving money to Musk and Bezos and Branson.

they hate you and they hate progress bc progress means change, and change is scary to anyone who has already won the game

>>529647324
>YOU HAVE TO REBUILD THE ENTIRE ASSEMBLY LINE
You don't, you'd need to create an assembly line, but it wouldn't look anything like what Ford's looked like in the 1930's. The technology available back then dictated the form, today we're not bound by that.
On the other hand no one at NASA should be trying to recreate the Apollo space craft. They're not limited to the form factor they had back then.
You need to stop using the model T analogy, it's extremely retarded.

>>529644003
microservices

>>529646744
>You do not get more for you tax dollars with spaceX
yeah you do. they launch your payloads cheaper than anyone else. and they are pushing the limits to build something that will be even cheaper still by a factor of 10 maybe 100 times cheaper.

nasa never built rockets. check the wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V
look under manufacturer
it says boeing, north american, douglass
nasa coordinates and funds it just like they are funding spacex to build a rocket right now. however most of spacex funding is still private so the taxpayer isnt paying for the whole thing, and it also means spacex isnt held back as much by bloated government power tripping paper pushing bureoocratic dei hr department faglords.

without spacex you would have nothing but the overpriced garbage that is the sls

>>529647700
>On the other hand no one at NASA should be trying to recreate the Apollo space craft. They're not limited to the form factor they had back then.
Throwing away all the old designs means throwing away all the reliability and security literally paid by blood you fucking mutt imbecile.
>just make new designs
>just re-test and re-certify everything from scratch
>just make it work in 2 weeks
>here's your budget cut so you feel more motivated

>>529646973
yeah, its a composite
thats what you do when you want a detailed picture of earth, you use satellites that are in low orbit and you have them take high res pictures and you stitch them together. to get all of earth in a single frame means you need go farther away from the earth and accept a less detailed image, but they have those too.

>>529642645
No we didnt. No human has ever left this rock and they never will.

>>529642645
You can’t land on a light.

>>529647866\
>w-w-without elon you wouln't have anything
getting on your knees like that for elon is kinda embarrassing

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>>529642645
Sorry, we simply lost the technology that allowed us to build high-quality space equipment like picrel.

>>529642812
This mostly.
Sending people to the moon takes generational infrastructure support that simply cannot exist with the presence of things like Dodge v Ford.

>>529642645
>Nasa's funding has been cut dramatically since the last moon landing
>Investment in rocket technology is dramatically slower now that the government is happy with how fast the nukes go
>The moon is not actually an economically viable place to go, so it's not a colonization mission.
It's just not a priority.

>>529643132
>The shuttle was meant to be a new age in space light
No, the shuttle was meant to secretly put CIA satellites in orbit during its public missions.

>>529647700
you're just being pedantic and missing the point

>>529648138
it's true though. you want to let boeing and locksneed scam you for another few decades delivering the bare minimum hardware to extract the max possible shekels? or do you want a space company with real ambition that is actually fucking trying to get to space? its not even about elon, spacex is over 13,000 people

>>529642645
NASA has been gutted in favor of private companies and there's no strong financial incentive to go to the moon.

>>529647866
>yeah you do. they launch your payloads cheaper than anyone else. and they are pushing the limits to build something that will be even cheaper still by a factor of 10 maybe 100 times cheaper.
Keep sitting in the cuck chair giving that money to private corporations brother, spaceX received more than twice NASAs budget this year and doesn't share their technology with US businesses.

>>529647866
>look under manufacturer
Yeah, and designed, tested and operated by NASA. No shit they hired someone to assemble it.

we make these magical handheld devices now that almost nobody knows how they work so girls can farm likes and attention

>>529642645
We went. We found what was there. Decades later China sent a rover so we destroyed what was there. No need to go back.

>>529648138
> hurr durr Billionaires, Elong bad
typical leftist that can't acknowledge fact based accomplishments.

>>529642645
We never went to the moon, kiddo

>>529648027
>Stratus clouds keeping the exact same shape over 100s of miles in the open ocean
>Pixel perfect duplicate of clusters
>"Composite"
No, when you try to pass off something that is fake as something that is genuine, that's called fraud.

They could go to space >100 years ago, but they can't today?

>>529642645
Space race is over
Nobody wants to funnel billions of dollars just to have some DEI plant a rainbow flag on the moon
Especially not when American allies are in dire need of aid

>>529642645
We overthink everything

>>529646217
The base has no economic incentive though: You can't get rich selling the base to anybody else, because it'll literally cost probably 10billion dollars per person to keep the base going every year.

>>529644837
It's a cope, that Canadian is in every Moonhoax thread desperately trying to justify le science yet he's half assing it, no webms or pics or anything, just reacting and trying to come up with counter arguments, almost like a paid shill but I think he's just a Redditor.

>>529648188
that's just insulation, it's not load bearing. its thin sheets of lightweight metal to reflect heat. held together with the bare minimum so as not to add unnecessary mass anywhere. find me a better insulator for space than aluminum, kapton, and mylar. you can't.

>>529648631
we tried it your way for decades and got nowhere because nasa is cucked and they give money to scammers at boeing and locksneed who dont need to innovate because nasa will pay them anyways to deliver underperforming trash.
nasa has 24 billion in annual funding
they gave half a billion to spacex, not for free, but to deliver a product. they gave a lot more to receive a lot less from other private businesses. because thats how nasa works, through private contractors.

just shut the fuck up you lying shit fucking shill. you dishonest shits with your smug tones and bad faith arguments and little gotchas, same awful spirit possesses all of you so you all sound the same.

>>529643627
It would be the logical place for a moon base to launch humanity into living in space permanently. It would be the best place for a base for asteroid mining.

We could manufacture computer chips WAY easier and cheaply in zero g. It would revolutionize warfare, as any entity that can get some dense mineraly could strap a rocket to them and rain unstoppable hell on their terrestrial enemy. No big deal.

>>529648613
they wanted to go but then later on realized "fuck we cant do it we really never where on the moon".

>we still cannot go
Says who?

>>529648861
its a fucking composite. they admit its a composite. theres a reason its a composite and i explained why. its the same fucking cloud it moved i guess and they took another pic i dunno

i bet you could google it and find a simple explanation but you wont and if i do youll ignore the evidence and just repeat your nonsense forever anyways

>>529648986
We need to wait until fusion power is economically viable, then there will be lots of interest in helium3 mining on the moon. Its either that or the Chinese dont give a crap about profit and build a moon base for the glory which kicks in a second sputnik moment for the americans (I doubt tho, americans would rather use some jewish sabotage to hamper a chinese moon mission than try to compete fairly).

>>529642645
>we somehow managed to go to the moon with primitive 1960s tech... Yet somehow, even with all of the modern technology of the current era that is significantly more advanced than the tech of the 1960s, we just can't seem to go back
... Do I even have to say it?

>>529642771
And we have internet and computers. That’s it. People fail to understand that progress rapidly stopped after ww2 German defeat. Most tech we use is still 100+ years old

inb4
>actually i want my future to be silicon valley run feudalism

>>529648500
I would rather not just support another corrupt billionaire, personally i don't think u have to trade one for another.

>>529648788
SpaceX is doing cool things in aerospace and also I would prefer against effectively privatizing one of the few things about this country that doesn't suck

>>529645562
SpaceX is more capable than NASA and has already demonstrated it. Do canadians just choose to be wrong about everything on purpose?

Import brown, become brown.

>>529642645
>Why exactly is this?
Israel needs some money too. Don't be antisemitic.

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>>529649015
and i think you're a fucking jew
how do i know? the pilpul arguments
the 24/7 flat earth well poisoning, which are the threads you actually recognize me from. you started doing this when we didn't be good goys and take your vaxx. my antisemitism rises 50 points with every one of your disgusting kike threads, and the only time we ever get a break from you fucks is when iran hurls another few hundred rockets your way, which should happen soon, i look forward to the peace and quiet. you made me anti-semitic, you did this, just stop being so fucking jewish all the time and antisemitism wouldnt exist

>>529642645
you dumb nigger
WE STOPPED DOING IT SO WE FORGOT HOW TO DO IT

AND NOW WE ARE GIVING UP AND LETTING CHINA WIN THE CURRENT MOON RACE

WE *DO NOT* HAVE MUCH HIGHER ROCKET TECHNOLOGY THAN IN THE 60s, CAUSE WE AINT DONE SHIT

WE SAT OUR LAZY ASSES AND GOT OUT PRACTICE AND LET ALL THE PEOPLE WHO KNEW THEIR SHIT DIE OFF

>>529649376
> SpaceX is doing cool things in aerospace and also I would prefer against effectively privatizing one of the few things about this country that doesn't suck
Private competition around launch prices is what made this possible in the first place, retard. If you had a NASA program for reusable commercial scale rockets, there would never have been something like a falcon9, and espeially not for its current price. NASA should be tasked with science, not the business of ferrying people to and from space

>>529649764
yes, nasas place is in important but not immediately profitable science

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>>529642645
YOU DIDN'T GIVE ENOUGH CHILDREN TO ELON MUSK, THE 100% ETHNICALLY JEWISH MAN

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3 years later and i still havent seen an explanation of what the actual fuck is going with indias "moon landing"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dim8elzo5vE
no footage, no photos no data
just a 30 second clip of a ps1 animation next to the shiteater in chief as proof of a successful multi billion dollar space program
and the jeet at the end is the cherry on top
>sar we have achieved soft landing on the moon, india is on the moon

>>529649271
They "admitted it" after they got caught when people noticed it was fucking photoshopped using the clone tool. It's also value and hue edited and jazzed up to be more colorful and striking. Aka it's a fucking FAKE picture. It's just someone's interpretation.

They put out these things to get reddit-brain retards like you gushing about muh science so they can push for more funding for their dumb little projects. It's fraud.

God damn you ideologues are so fucking dogmatic about this shit like it's a religion or something.

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>>529649393
NASA went to shit when the NAZIs retired

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>>529650002
>no photos
found one in the first 30 seconds of searching

>>529649764
crazy what chronic underfunding does, hey ig taxdollars going to israel or billionaires is preferred

>>529643711
Yes, it was faked.
>But what commies get
Dude, there was revo in 1917.
Commies are literally foreign agents from usa and Germany

>>529642645
NASA started prioritizing DEI, and the US imported hundreds of millions of shitskins to lower our average IQ. The people who knew how to do stuff retired and died in the meantime.

>>529650133
that's just whatever narrative some grifter on youtube told you, i doubt that's even what happened. they take composite images of earth all the time because its the only way to get high detail and because to get a single frame image of earth (which do exist by the way) requires the expense of launching a probe into a much more distant orbit for a less detailed image because its not being taken close up. you annoy people because you're retarded

>>529650282
> hey ig taxdollars going to israel [..] is preferred
said no one
> taxdollars going to billionaires is preferred
aah no the hecking billionaires!! God forbid they use their private capital to build a rocket to offer services to NASA instead of NASA doing it inhouse for 5x the price and 10x the required time

>>529642645
>waste of moeny and resources money
- Why we don´t waste more money and resources?
/thread

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>>529650498
It's the literal definition of fraud.

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>>529642645
>we are never going back
You never went there in the first place, stupid retarded subhuman goyim nigger.

We need a self sustaining moon base ASAP in case the nukes go off.

>>529650731
prove they tried to pass this off as a non-composite when they openly release composites all the time and admit they are composites all the time. so why this one time they release the worlds most obvious composite while allegedly pretending it isnt one i have no idea. sounds made up

>>529642645
The main reason is that we are unwilling to put in the same effort, because we already went there.
And it was pointless.

If you put the same resources towards it it'd be trivial but why on earth would you?
You get there "Yup, still the moon." and you've wasted trillions.

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>>529642645
>What the fuck is going on here?

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>>529642645
When the spinning ball-Earth is finally exposed worldwide for the 400+ year deception it was, Earth's entire population will suddenly be faced with the reality that every government, every space agency, university, secret society, religious organization, mainstream and alternative media outlet have ALL been duplicitous in propping up a monstrous manipulation to fleece and control the masses. The resulting mass mental exodus away from the control system is exactly what humanity needs. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these lying politicians, spokesmen, reporters and teachers suddenly change from being heralded voices of authority to being ridiculed, shunned and denounced as they deserve. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these governments, universities, media outlets and other entangled organizations which have long been hard at work weaving this multi-generational ball-Earth myth, suddenly and completely lose all credibility. Once the truth of our flat Earth gets out, so does the truth of these few elite families/societies who have kept this most important and fundamental reality from us for these hundreds of years! Essentially, once the flat Earth truth gets out, so does every other important truth by proxy, because this "mother-of-all-conspiracies" holds under its umbrella literally ALL of the other conspiracies, and exposes them.

>>529650944
So why they keep teasing for decades on end about going back to the moon? At least since the 90s they are promising to go back and nothing. Why?

>>529651070
Because it gets nitwits excited.

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>>529651005
and there it is, every time
paid shill team well poisoning psyop running 24/7 on /pol/ and wouldnt you know it they sound exactly like the moon hoaxers with the same shitty retard pilpul vibes and they always go hand in hand in every space thread. every single hour of every single day for years in the most blatant astroturfing ive ever seen

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why has it never been explained as to why the world discovered multiple orbiting satellites far before any country had the capabilities to launch them? isn't this the true smoking gun that either this planet was seeded by outside forces and/or there was a previous ancient culture that had the capabilities and was either wiped out or has been observing in the background?

>>529643019
The simple fact that there is zero radiation damage on any of the film is damn near proof by itself we never went. People have had rolls of film ruined by airport x-ray scanners. The radiation of the Van Allen bands is like 1000x that.

>>529642645
>100 years ago
>we
Have sex, you mentally ill incel.

>>529651258
Technically the moon is a satellite.
What do you think those pre-human datellites are if not just other chunks of rocky stuff in orbit?

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>>529651005
put some eclipse glasses on to cut out the glare and the sun appears the same size all day. if the sun was circling overhead of a flat earth then it would appear largest at noon when its closest to you then shrink off into the distance in the evening. your response will be scripted pilpul where you pretend not to understand

>>529650921
You just can't accept that it's not a real picture. You keep jumping through a gymnastics course trying to explain why it actually is a real picture because it's a composite or it's stitched together but those things don't explain how a cloud group looks exactly the same hundreds of miles away.

The only thing that explains it is that they FUCKING PHOTOSHOPPED IT you goddamn retard. Maybe it's "based on" real images but the photo itself that they are trying to pass off as an image of Earth is OBJECTIVELY FAKE.

If I photoshopped a picture of some niggers fucking your mom, it wouldn't matter that it was based on a true event, you would still immediately call it fake.

>>529651468
Hyperborean monitoring network. I remember seeing this come up before and the magnitude of the satellites didn't match up with rocky materials.

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>>529651235
Have a nice day.

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>>529651005
oh look, you can literally measure the horizon dipping below eye level, ie curving below eye level, because its round. your response will be pilpul pretending not to understand

>>529642645
>moon landing le fake
I never understood this conspiracy theory. what's the big picture here? russians said that amerisharts landed on the moon. why would they do this if it wasn't true? did they throw the cold war for some secret nefarious jewish reason?

you guys are fucking goyim for believing the moon landing

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>>529642645
Because Democrats spent the last 50 years turning NASA into an outreach program for muslims, furries, and troons.

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>>529651005
there are a million flat earth retard arguments but the answer is usually to explain atmospheric refraction, or how cameras work, etc only for the fe shill to pretend he doesnt understand

>>529651635
...Magnitude?
Are you proficient in English?

>>529651864
>In astronomy, magnitude is a measure of the brightness of an object

>>529642645
No funding, no competitive salaries or working conditions (working for the government is a literal humiliation ritual) and most importantly, the US is a shithole now.

>>529651733
they did it with an agreement to exchange information on America's space program

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>>529651703
>>529651862
Goodbye

>>529651622
Cloud systems can last for many hours or even days. So if a satellite captures one region at 9:00 a.m. and another region at 12:00 p.m., the same large storm system can still be there, just slightly shifted. When those frames are combined into a flat global map, parts of the same cloud system can appear more than once near the stitching edges.

>>529651258
i looked into this and none of the usual explanations fit and there is no way i know of to debunk it. legitimate mystery and an actually worthwhile space conspiracy

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Who fucking needs moon you fucking retards?

It's a play fantasy for billionaires that have too much money to spend. People like Musk and Epstein.

I can't even afford food and live on frozen pizza daily...

>>529650498
stop trying to defend masonic liars faggot

the moon landings never happened & the earth is flat

>>529651936
Cool, remember that jargon is by definition not a standard part of the English language.

And reflection alone is not enough to determine such a thing as the same material can easily be manipulated to have various sorts of reflections by applying circumstances not unlike those found in the colissions involved in creating such rocky splinters.

If you want to get a sense of what i'm referribg to you can look up moldavite as a pretty example.

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>>529651681
>he posted it again

these are paid shills pretending to be retarded on a 24/7 well poisoning psyop for years and everything they say is jewish pilpul so we know they're from israel

>>529646540
Rocket tech, gps and general tracking has greatly improved over the years, especially thank to military applications, this is pure cope, it's not a niche, way better technology is available, if we believe the drones that were sent over the decades are real on both mars and the moon then there is no issue in getting there and safely landing, yet this new human space program supposedly should've been there during the Obama administration, it has been almost 20 years and 0 progress has been made.

>>529642645
We never went to the moon obviously. Ffs post this on reddit. Anyone who isn't a glowie on this site already knows we never went to the moon

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>>529652112
hello >>529652389

>>529652363

>>529650635
tax dollars that go to the military (and in turn israel) don't go to NASA. my bad for not wanting to get cucked by billionaires like you clearly seem to

We only went to the moon because Germany was on the cusp of space travel and we couldn't let that happen, so enter WW2 and take the scientists.

>>529642645
spacefags have yet to come to terms that hundreds if not thousands of people will die trying to colonize the moon and Mars

>>529652388
They obviously didn't base it off that alone.
>Moldavite
Looks like something you'd find floating down the Ganges, some examples do look kinda cool.

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>>529642645
It's even worse than this.

>>529652196
>Clouds stay the same for hours or days
Now you're just embarrassing yourself. You can admit the picture is fake dude.

I'm not a flat earther, but the picture is fake and I can admit it. It doesn't prove that the Earth is flat or that space is fake, but it does prove fraud at NASA - which is not even particularly difficult or novel of a claim. Like I said, what you're doing is dogma not science.

>>529644568
I like how zoomers pretend they look like this and they're the smallest generation in a while

>>529652635
we lost more lives trying to colonize aghanistan and make it fit for human life (we lost). but getting blown open by a roadside bomb to serve israels interests is kosher

>>529642645
We'd already be there if let Elon handle it.

Still using old booster technology, that the Russians are better at, was not a wise move.

>>529642645
>Like there has to be a perfect explanation rather than we lost the technology aren't the rockets faster than back then?
We didn't lose any technology. We could build brand new Saturn V rockets and new versions of all of the Apollo technology, it's would just be insanely expensive (like it was the first time) and pretty retarded to try to recreate 60+ year old designs.
All of the issues with the SLS are NOT because we don't have the technology or have gone backwards or can't get to the moon anymore. The issues with the SLS are precisely because political reasons forced NASA to try to get to the moon by retrofitting and reusing all the leftover space shuttle technology that was originally designed 50+ years ago for a completely different purpose. And they had to do it using 9000 different contractors spread out over every voting district in the country for political reasons.
With all of the huge advancements in technology, CAD, materials science, automation, etc since the '60s, it is actually much easier and cheaper to get to the moon today than it was in the '60s if that's your only goal. NASA was getting like 4% of the entire federal budget during the space race to pay for Apollo, now we just have really rich dudes achieving similar capability as a hobby project.
SLS/Artemis is an extremely flawed boondoggle of a project. I think at this point, NASA knows they are never going to land people on the moon with that system, and are just using it to stall for time until SpaceX gets to the point where they can just do the whole thing without needing to somehow use leftover STS components.

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>>529652731
Well you did forget to mention that.

And yeah, it's just a product of celestial impact, naturally it has a rather wide range of appearances.
Point is that the forces involved in sucg events can easily warp materials far beyond what standard earthbound conditions might deem, eh, recogniseable.

Many cases of misidentifications because of that, only credible way to make a theory like yours remotely plausible is to actually grab one of those satellites and study it in earnest.

Theory and deductive measurement are nice but no substitute for proper experimentation.

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Funding issues mostly. We have higher safety and building standards which raises cost which no one wants to pay because any returns would take decades at best to be paid back.

>no we won't try while Trump is president
>sorry...just no
Why are they like this?

>>529652332
You really should just learn to make your own pizzas, it's so absurdly easy and cheap and way better quality. It's just dough, sauce, cheese and toppings, it's braindead easy.

>>529653144
...What return?

>>529653090
Even if they did grab it, they'd never let anyone know it was a foreign object because it would threaten (((their))) hold on America.

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>>529644684
>as a Percentage of Federal Budget
lmao the slimy Jews

>>529652810
>“Stratocumulus clouds… can… persist over a specific area for several days.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratocumulus_cloud?utm_source=chatgpt.com

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>>529652782
Don't forget the also drove around in dune buggies.

>>529648344
Dodge v. Ford was 1919, dipshit.

>>529653422
Yea but they don't keep their exact same shape down to the pixel you gullible fucking retard.

>>529653185
This is absolute truth.

>>529653353
...Sure. Pretending your dubious treatment of the burden of proif didn't happen for a sec:
Even India has managed to send a probe to the moon for a beggar's sum.
Anyone could do it, including America's many enemies.
If there is any plausibility to your claims why wouldn't they?

>>529653552
>down to the pixel
look again, slightly different each time

>>529653580
>Hyperborean monitoring network.
>dubious treatment of the burden of proif
Anon...

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>>529653481
No ornithopters? Disappoint.

>>529642645
>100 years ago we went to the moon
BAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAGAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHHAAHAHAHAHHA

>>529653778
And now evading the question i see...
Always such a pity when i encounter people like you,unceasing disappointments.

>>529642645
Too much money in the Israeli territories we're going towards fickle things like wage equality, standards of living, and American excellence. Those inefficiencies have been removed and tithes to Israel are properly being paid.

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>>529653898
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Ohh except for the moon landing, that one you just have to believe whatever you're told.

That's how science works, okay?

>>529642645
Another one of these stupid fucking threads. We never went. The earth is spheroid. You're all gay AF.

>>529642645
Because the moon isn't sexy anymore. It's just a big floating rock. The moon was a a goal it was everything. Now it's just a shitty trinket.

If you want 0 gravity environment space station is better. If you want a place to live Mars is better. If you want to waste a bunch of money doing some shit that's already been done before that nobody will care about go back to the moon. It's like climbing Everest. Once is enough.

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>>529654672
they have thousands of photos and videos, what more proof do you want? all your evidence it was faked can be easily debunked just looking shit up for a few minutes. they launched massive moon capable rockets in front of everyone. but ok

>>529654943
>It's like climbing Everest. Once is enough.
He3. Dumb or lying or both.

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>>529654943
You're gay ass explanation doesn't explain why we could go to the moon in the 60s and now we can't even land on it without crashing today.

>>529646757
Holy motherload of not understanding quotes

>>529646694
Do you really think Armstrong was the first?

>>529655310
>two identical top heavy landers from the same private company on a shoestring budget tipped over
oh shit i guess the apollo moon landing never happened then

>>529655032
Even in basic journalism class they teach you that you have to give two independent sources before you can print a fact in a newspaper. You have one source: the US government, probably the least credible institution on the face of the planet.

Do you believe everything the US government tells you or do you think they're mostly lying but they're just not lying about this one thing in particular?

>>529655610
>The government told me we played gold on the moon, I guess it's now objectively true.

>>529644241
Yeah but more retarded than that is thinking we got to the moon within half century of airplanes

>>529655032
imagine wasting your time on flerf LLMs

>>529642645
>Now we have higher technology we still cannot go. Why exactly is this?
because fox news runs the government now and all smart people at nasa left the country

>>529651862
Sure and then there's also midnight sun and polar nights that we get here in the Arctic.
Flatards only need to go to the arctic circle mid summer and again mid winter, that should sort it out. Surprisingly many people have never heard of it. Then there's also Northern Lights, which happen when solar flares hit the magnetic north pole. So basically if you know how a compass works and follow the needle all the way to the magnetic north, but keep going, the needle flips and now points where you came from. So we have as evidence
>midnight sun
>polar nights
>northern lights
>magnetic compass
These all support spherical Earth.

>>529643435
Me and the boys on our way to the bar

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>>529651235
>>529651703
>>529651862
>>529652389

Seeing all the recent failed lunar landings of drones is pretty blackpilling. Landers with sophisticated guidance systems can't stick the lunar landing, but astronauts flying manually did it 10 times in a row with no fuck ups?

>We lost the tech
>We stopped caring
>We don't have the funding
>It's not a priority

Entire thread summerized, yet they are still funding it and still trying to get to mars and the moon kek all over.

SpaceX is literally worth billions of dollars more than NASA did back then.

Cope is real still waiting for the real answer.

>>529656320
a person can be wrong about one thing and right about other things. debunk the arguments (you can't) not the source.

this 24/7 every hour of every day fe well poisoning psyop began when /pol/ debunked your clot shot. that's why you're here.

>>529642645
You voted in a buffoon who has been robbing your country blind. The USA is a has been and is on its precipitous drop into oblivion.

>>529642645
mutts were never on the moon

>>529651258
>the world discovered multiple orbiting satellites far before any country had the capabilities to launch them
NATURAL* satellites.
Clumps of rock.
Just like the moon.

>>529642645
It was cost efficient due to the soft power gain during the Cold war

There's nothing up there but rocks and helium3.

When it becomes profitable, or when the soft power bragging rights become important enough again, we will go back

Asteroid mining and mars colonies take precedence over moon larps

I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if the next people to waste time on the moon were tourists

>>529642645
You've never been to the moon, brit.

America has.

>>529655032
But somehow they lost original moon tapes. Lol.

>>529655653
>>529655770
according to the us government clouds are made of water. which must be bullshit because they always lie. i wonder what clouds really are, i dont see any pictures of clouds in old roman paintings, because there weren't any. you still believe in clouds you're so gullible. clouds are fake and gay, whatever doesnt evaporate into clouds, show me one time water transforms into a cloud, you cant because its impossible and clouds aren't real.

>>529656769
Lol, a brown skin Swede has something to say. Lmao

>>529657287
Boil a pot of water with a plastic bag over it

Congrats you made your own cloud

Please don't breed

>>529657123
they lost the tapes to only one of the apollo missions not all of them

>>529642812
Not enough white MEN. Plenty of white women in NASA, shitting it up.

>>529657430
thats not a cloud stupid, it looks nothing like a cloud which should be like a fluffy white blob. stop licking nasas ass, the government lied about clouds. clouds are fake and gay

>>529657616
Tell me you've never been on a plane without telling me

Stay grounded, poorfag

>>529657430
>clouds are real, the government wouldn't lie, trust le science

>>529657430
>Congrats you made your own cloud
you mean chemtrail

>>529642645
I know you're exaggerating but we didn't go to the moon in the 1920s

>>529657840
heavier than air flight is another government farce. those planes you see are just balloons. they drug you inside the "plane" and then insert fake memories with 5g carrier waves so you "remember" visiting some other continent, which isnt even real because europe and asian and africa and australia are all lies and the "people" from those countries are fake. outside of north america there is only an ice wall on a flat earth.

>>529657847
Clouds are real
The government lies
Science is how we learn

Anon, will never be smarter than you are today. You stopped learning. For you, it's only downhill from here.

The rest of us see schizo science posts like yours as comedy and tragedy in equal measure

>>529652512
But they showed it on (((TV))) !!!! Isn t that the best proof ever ?

>>529658238
>the government lies
except this one time to say clouds are real and you beleeve them? gullible. youre the one who stopped learning the day you swallowed nasas lies that clouds are made of water, which is retarded, because water is transparent. if clouds were made of water you wouldnt be able to see them. just think for yourself for 5 minutes instead of just trusting the science like an absolute retard.

>>529643636
Good Goy

>>529642645
but da bibblebabble book sez da urf be flat. chrusty kang! hayleylujan! praze jewsus.

>>529658852
>water is transparent
what color is snow, moron?

>>529658852
Water gains opacity as temperature shifts.

Here's a simple tool to help you learn about optical constants in liquids, as they correlate to temperature.

It will be hard for you to use it, because like I already said, you gave up on learning.

https://refractiveindex.info/?shelf=3d&book=liquids&page=water

TL:DR steam is white

>>529658238
He's shitting on flerf anon, he is expressing the flerf gaslighting to (you). The argument is as follows: nasa lies therefore flerf. Its retarded as (you) can see.

>>529642645
>100 years ago we went to the moon.
Only a dumb man would believe that

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When the cloudy Earth is finally exposed worldwide for the 400+ year deception it was, Earth's entire population will suddenly be faced with the reality that every government, every space agency, university, secret society, religious organization, mainstream and alternative media outlet have ALL been duplicitous in propping up a monstrous manipulation to fleece and control the masses. The resulting mass mental exodus away from the control system is exactly what humanity needs. Once the clouds are fake truth gets out, these lying politicians, spokesmen, reporters and teachers suddenly change from being heralded voices of authority to being ridiculed, shunned and denounced as they deserve. Once the clouds are fake truth gets out, these governments, universities, media outlets and other entangled organizations which have long been hard at work weaving this multi-generational cloudy-Earth myth, suddenly and completely lose all credibility. Once the truth of our no cloud sky gets out, so does the truth of these few elite families/societies who have kept this most important and fundamental reality from us for these hundreds of years! Essentially, once the clouds are fake truth gets out, so does every other important truth by proxy, because this "mother-of-all-conspiracies" holds under its umbrella literally ALL of the other conspiracies, and exposes them.

>>529646757
There's nothing wrong with faking the Apollo landings. It was a Noble Lie which boosted humanity's morale.

>>529647324
>would involve having to rebuild the entire model t assembly line
retard who doesn't understand assembly lines, fabrication, or cars.

>>529659625
You got trolled years ago by someone who thought it would be funny to make you believe "Clouds are the umbrella conspiracy" because of the pun

>>529647866
>a factor of 10 maybe 100
also doesn't understand factors

>>529656504
This thread is a good measurement of glowie density. It would be interesting to make the thread in another timezone.

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>>529659241
>Water gains opacity as temperature shifts.
bullshit, everytime i boil my eggs i'd be getting a rainbow soup according your logic

>>529659042
snow is plastic pollution retard, when you melt it it turns black

NASA diversity hires put us back at least 200 years

>>529643132
> For every dollar spent on space they got like 4 back
Going to space does not give an ROI. NASA itself has a ROI near that number, but that is due to the technology they develop to complete a mission. We would be better off if NASA did R&D for the technology they think they would need, and then just decided not to go.

>>529659897
if they're so real then why has nobody ever captured one and brought it to earth? not one picture or video of what the surface of a cloud looks like. not one man has tried to walk on a cloud even though it would be super comfy to take a nap on a cloud but you can't because they're not real

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>>529642645
because the point of the space program is surveillance and telecommunications, not photo ops that you retards will just deny anyway?

>>529660129

Nigger you retarded. Burning this shit doesnt turn it into nothing. I talk about the liquid you burn. Burn it again with 99,99% pure household grade fuel. Suddenly it stays white. Oh my god i really was a dumb nigger after all.

>>529661237
why would i listen to someone from europe, a fake place that's not even real. nobody has ever been there because heavier than air flight is impossible. the gullible retards who go on those planes are megadosed with 5g fake memories of fake places and everyone who says they're from europe or asia is a fucking liar or a glowie. you're not real, clouds aren't real, planes are fake, the government lies, fuck you.

>>529653196
All the cheese that can be harvested from the Moon's surface. It would bankrupt Frau Antje.

>>529642645
QUI?

>>529642645
Too busy landing the first person (a black woman) on Mars

>>529642645
>What the fuck is going on here?
Most likely ccp payments and bribes.

>>529649118
Why would you want to live in space? It’s far easier to live in Antarctica but nobody goes there.

>>529656984
They all disappeared later. Probably nothing, stuff disappears all the time.

>>529660370
Clouds are just fog, you retard. I was inside a cloud last night.

The problem with Artemis is that it involves actually doing something (building a rocket and going to the moon) and they don't have enough white men left to make that happen, much less enough nazis.

>>529664595
>it's true because nasa said it was
you'll believe anything they tell you
fog isnt fluffy and white with distinct edges like clouds. clouds are fog is one of the more absurd theories i hear from the "trust the science" shills.

if clouds were real then why am i getting so many desperate shills responding just pointing out the simple truth anyone can see with their eyes that clouds arent real.

also, water doesnt bend, but clouds are round, you cant make it make sense

>>529642645
>current year+6
>people STILL trust the government.
It’s unfixable. Lunatics have to be eradicated for humanity to survive.

>>529642645
Lol. So close, yet so far.

>>529642645
>riddle me this, how does the mirror know what's happening behind the piece of paper???
OP is brown

>>529643004
> just the equipment and infrastructure of the specific Apollo program that did it
Wow, you mean the same equipment and infrastructure that we didn’t even have the technical knowledge for, much less the equipment and infrastructure, before NASA was created?

All your excuses are for gay retards. Why won’t you just accept the obvious truth?
>Your government lied to you to steal money from you.

How the FUCK is this so hard to believe?

>>529665621
goverment "meterologists" from nasa have been telling these sheeple that clouds are real for decades, they'll believe anything. they think clouds are made from water because the government says so. zero capacity for independent thought. if water was fluffy and white how could you even drink it? zero records of clouds in ancient paintings. government lies. clouds are fake. only men like us see the truth

>>529643004
Please tell me the difference in equipment needed to go to the moon versus what we're doing right now. Because we're sending record breaking payloads, we have a space station, and now we're even catching rockets. Technically, we've never been better. Equipment has never been better. Infrastructure has never been better. You don't think we could throw together a landing module? Is that it?

>We lost the technology. Space travel was infinitely more advanced in 1969.
is somehow more believable than
>The government lied to one-up the Sovietd

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>>529666148
> difference in equipment needed to go to the moon versus what we're doing right now.
You would need some sort of way to steer, since rockets don’t work in space.

>>529643627
Reasons to explore space
>Low cost minerals
>Free real estate
>First one to do it will be the undisputed ruler of the system
>Long term survivability of the human race in both colonization and threat assessment/neutralization.
>Scientific explanation
>Exploration
Plenty of perfectly valid reasons to shoot rockets at space. But we can't get people to the moon. Because if we could, we would.

>>529666295
You're the rage bait glownigger plant here to discredit valid discussion about the government lying to its citizens.

maybe they're covering up some truth about the moon they don't want us to know

>>529666837
>ask question
>get answer
>seethe uncontrollably.

You know you could always just fuck off and not be in this thread? Go find one of our many lovely threads for retards who love the government, or make your own.

>>529666633
>low cost
>free
Absolute single digit IQ
>oh my science!
Probably vaxx damaged.

>>529667509
You have no understanding of physics or anything really. I'm refusing to engage with you because you're retarded and/or, probably and, a glowie.

The only thing that matters in this hellscape now is maximizing profits for shareholders. We used to build amazing things and do amazing things. They just built a new school near me, it looks like a prison. The most ugly, soulless building I've ever seen.

>>529642645
Humans never stepped there, this bullshit lie only hurts real progress and goals... I hate US faggots who decided to fake Moon landing just to own commies like they would fly there themselves with technology back then in the first place...

>>529642645
>NASA fans
This is the gayest thing ever. It's like saying you're a department of energy fan or a DHHS fan.

if we actually do return to the moon the shills will be working overtime to post copes and pilpul
>no stars in this picture its fake

>>529642645
HOLY SHIT JUST SEND A ROBOT WHAT THE FUCK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvfleopz2Xg

>>529666295
thats what thrusters are for. nice bait though

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>>529642645
>100 years ago we went to the moon.
In what twisted universe does 2026 - 1969 = 100?

America stole the best NatSoc German scientists, that's why things got done.

>>529669063
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3x7v_bioxE

>>529644241
>he doesn't know

>>529642645
Moon landing was clearly a hoax. There is no other rational way to explain it without intense mental gymnastics.

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>>529642812
this

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Clouds are clearly a hoax. There is no other rational way to explain it without intense mental gymnastics.

>>529643004
You fucking faggot shills are so annoying.

This is a jewish well poisoning thread
Spaceflight is the whitest act ever done, so jewish hatred towards it is legendary
there is a reason anti-space threads stop dead every time Tel Aviv gets bombed

>>529642645
Any "NASA fan" with an IQ above room temperature has known for years that 2027 was completely unrealistic. They still don't even have a lander and evening they did SLS isn't powerful enough to launch it along with Orion like the Saturn V did.

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All the pictures they show us of people walking on clouds are clearly fake and cgi. Clouds aren't real. Nasa wants you to beleeve this is a real photo.

>>529670697
even if*

>>529642645
why do you faggots use the leftist playbook of pretending not to understand something to make discourse impossible?
they don't have infinite budget any more, the factories that built themselves up from building suborbital sounding rockets to saturn Vs closed, rocketdyne now has a few hundred employees instead of tens of thousands, the infrastructure is rusted and abandoned, the people with the skillsets retired and weren't replaced. End of story

>>529668041
>I have no argument therefore you are wrong and I will not debate you
Kek, leftists are pathetic.

>>529668705
Thrusting off of what, anon? The reason rockets work on earth is because of the atmospheric pressure.

Go watch a LEO launch. As they gain altitude, the atmosphere becomes thinner, and you can see the plume from the rocket grow larger and larger as there is less matter to retrain it. In a vacuum, free expansion occurs and no work is done.

You used to learn this in high school.

Space is fake. We can't get past the firmament.

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>>529642645
>100 years ago we went to the moon.
Did you?
https://luogocomune.net/americanmoon