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How come Venezuela just rolled over like a dog instead of doing what Iran is doing? Do souwfies just have no fight in them?
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>>529643153
Venezuela was utterly demoralized for at least a decade. Also, venezuelans have never participated in a war during chaves or maduro, and their government was incredibly corrupt, they had zero hardliners on board and we're mostly tapped out and far away from their allies
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>>529643153
you didn't really aggress anyone in venezuela, you just went in and captured a nigga and shoved him in a US prison
in iran you just sacrificed 200 children and killed plenty of their key people in the first hours aswell as drop 1000 drone strikes in day 1
+ iran war was teased for decades, venezuela was just some random shit trump came up with weeks prior
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>>529643153
Khomeini actually built Iran into a regional power that no one (even Israel) there wanted to fight without U.S. help. Venezuela was just a corrupt shithole that wasn't using its oil money to build an army, just enrich the elite.
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>>529643153
Because Maduro was a petty dictator that nobody liked, and his supporters were cartel goons that stab eachother in the back regularly. There is exactly zero similarities between Maduro and the Ayatollah outside of the fact they are the chief executive of their respective governments.
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>>529643153
Once they put boots on the ground in Iran, they will start chimping out a little bit denpending on Iran’s situation. Trump took away CoL interest in Venezuela, if they can’t compensate that by giving Iranian oils back to BP, we might really witness the fappening of the century
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>>529643153
With the colors and the way he looks, I honestly thought this was some rando from Romania.
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>>529644680
>Both were ready and did execute any amount of their own citizens protesting against their rule.
I distinctly recall people named "Babitt", "Good", and "Pretti" killed for the same reasons right here in the USA.
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>>529643153
The Venezuelan regime had various factions inside all of which only care about money. Once the US enacted a full blockade and they couldn't get money, they sold Maduro.
Delcy Rodríguez is much more powerful today than she was on January 2nd. In fact Maduro threatened her and her brother on live TV a month before the invasion for having WhatsApp installed on their phones. That's right: Maduro was so paranoid that he threatened to jail the vice president and the general prosecutor for having WhatsApp installed on their phones; so it was in their best interest to sell him.
Americans swallowed the propaganda just like they swallow corn syrup and Jew semen every day and believed that the USA did a helicopter parade over Caracas with no resistance because Americans have magical super weapons, but in reality Maduro was sold by his people.
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Iranians have idiots as leaders but they have tough people. Just look at this map. Historically wise they are in a location that will be easily attacked by nomads and empires. They actually experienced some of the worst in history.
Meanwhile what kind of history does Venezuela have?
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>>529644867
The woman in charge right now, Delcy Rodríguez, was Maduro's vice president and member of the same political party.
They're now brokering an amnesty law to free some political prisoners (not all of them). The idea is that they will parade the freed political prisoners internationally as a way to seem clean and good so the US and EU lift all sanctions against Venezuela and they get immunity for their crimes while simultaneously keeping enough political prisoners locked up to still have leverage over the opposition and keep the population scared of the regime.
Trump's government is now too busy with Greenland, Cuba, Mexico and Iran to notice that they're being played by this mummy-looking bitch.
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>>529644912
better known as DelCIA Rodríguez
Latinos are not good for war
But the best at dancing and fucking all night
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>>529645076
Not really. Chávez and Maduro were very careful not to televise their brutality unlike the Iranians.
There's at least 10k people who've been murdered or disappeared under their regime. The difference is that they captured them and charged them with treason and their families never saw them again. Most of them were tortured to near death and let go just to die from their injuries (or suicide) shortly afterwards, their families silenced via threats; or killed in "police raids" that supposedly met resistance.
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>>529643153
Because he got literally betrayed by Delcy Rodriguez and """""""his"""""""" entire military buffet, NOBODY actually wanted to die for this retarded brown chud.
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Venezuelans are gypsies of the XXI century, their country got so destroyed by incompetent leftroons that no one would risk their lifes over this shit.
If US bombarded Brasilia and targeted specificaly PT politicians we would throw a month long party
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>>529646391
I seriously hope they don't and Venezuela manages to change the regime. So far Trump's people have been nudging Delcy and her government whenever they try to pull some shit on the population (like how they had to let go all the people they jailed for celebrating Maduro's capture) but now that the US is spread over Cuba, Mexico and Iran it might change.
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>>529644867
Yes but now they're complying with american demands. They know the score. No more fantasy trolling about flying bombers down Manhattan lol.
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>>529643153
>Discombobulator
can't day no more. takes a long time to charge up. don't expect it's usage in Iran
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You compared brown Christian who want to eat taco to Muslims who are angry their fucking religion leader is dead
What is this post? Maduro have Cuba solider guard him because he didn’t trust is own people
Nobody is going die for Maduro of all people, VZ are just brown Latino who are kind chill and want to eat taco
And fight with what? They don’t fucking have ballistic missiles and barely any drone
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>>529643153
Maduro's seconds wanted to be in charge so they worked with the US to make that happen. Turned off the missile defenses and shut off the lights so US soldiers with NODs would be effective. Now those seconds are in charge just like they wanted to be.
You didn't believe the shit about the magic sound weapons did you?
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The Iranian mullahs are actually aryan
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>>529646833
You're just salty because you suck at colonialism Hans (or should I say Mehmet these days).
>>529646858
That's the thing, we Latinx are capable of great violence but are peaceful by nature.
>>529646863
Real life isn't like COD deathmatch. You don't get points for your K/D ratio, you only win if you fulfill what you set out to do in the first place. Read Clausewitz.
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>>529643153
Because *for once* you where actually helping.
Cuba has been doing crappy mossad shit for a while to get other country to compensate for their non-existent economy.
Chavez was that. Maduro inherited the deal, complete with Cuban "guards" who were there mostly to put a bullet in his head if he stopped the free-and-totally-volunteer mass delivery of oil to Cuba.
So when you came in and killed the Cubans, Maduro didn't fight back much because that meant he could finally have a normal-ish life instead of being at the mercy of whatever the fuck Cubans wanted, and the country itself was mostly glad to be finally free of the commie parasite.
I know, crazy concept: when you *help* people they like it. Probably the first time it happen in burger history, so I get you are confused.
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>>529647117
>USA control their oil and sell it for them
Maduro literally begged the USA to buy his oil. This is just self-imposed American retardation.
>>529647224
Why are they so shit at it then?
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>>529643153
The entire of Central and that region of South America is pretty much just a tourist trap.
The only weapons circulating are in the heads of warlords either political or drug lords.
The only country with a real army in that entire region is Brazil and even they are just glorified drug lords
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>>529647115
Well we extorted a bunch of oil out of them, and... actually that's basically it. That's all Venezuela really was in the end, bullying a shit hole in our backyard for their resources.
Anyone who legitimately thought Trump gave a single shit about a South American government being corrupt is a dipshit.
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>>529647785
Destroy USA and bases in the area
They hit Israel multiple times, even hit their air port.
Israel seems to be hitting Iran even harder and maybe losing it, their air defence missiles might be almost gone.
Bibi is no where to be found, Israel is going get fucked, their gas fields are going fucking burn.
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>>529643153
Muslims are obsessed with warfare. Mohammed was a literal warlord by profession whilst Jesus was a carpenter.
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Venezuela didn't have a rabidly loyal religious military group behind the scenes to control everything and insure traitors were executed and punished for turning off AD and allowing Maduro to be captured
It's why the main force that took loses were Cubans since they were there to do a job/from a slightly more militantly anti-US Latin American nation ideologically
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Maduro was trying to cut a deal but Rubio wanted to punish him cause he is an angry gusano, when the socialist party stayed in power and the United states was not going to do more for regime change they just went for the original deal
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>>529649340
most south american will sell their own family for gibs. just look at your own nation, electing demons and inviting the rest of them to our corner of the world.
I spit on your face and curse you for eternity.
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>>529644867
same government
same policies for everything except oil
US gets the oil and the profits
venezuelans still doing uber around every other country in LA because their lifestyle maybe went from 2$ monthly wage to maybe 3$
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>>529643153
Because chavists were always incompetent low IQ zambo mongrels. They are absolutely nothing like middle eastern and asiatic people who don't fuck around or hesitate to die for religion or ideas. You need to understand the latino mindset in general, which only cares about getting drunk and being a lazy piece of shit. Did you ever see the Ayatollah singing and dancing on state TV like Maduro did regularly? That's just an example.
I literally pointed this out months before Maduro was captured but retards kept believing the vietnam 2.0 meme lmao.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/514961468/#q514965853
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>>529650267
Latinos just care about getting drunk or if their girlfriend going to come back to town still loves them lot of Venezuelan wives here in the states left their drunk husbands lel. The women are sluts the men are drunks. There is no family no bonds no nothing. You need a conservative culture to actually build community thats worth defending.
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>>529643153
Latinos love their country but hate its leaders. Burgers took advantage of that quirk and framed their invasion as an attack on Maduro himself instead of Venezuela as a nation, so no one gave a shit. I guarantee you, if something similar happened to Lula, half of Brazil would celebrate on the streets and the other would only pretend to care.
Iran is more a more traditional nation where an attack on the leader is an attack on the people, so full scale war was the only alternative.
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>>529643153
Knowing how things work here my guess is the Venezuelan Army guy that had info on the existance and possible use of sonic weapons by the U.S. armed forces against his country probably got laughed at and fired for wasting resources researching "conspiracy theories" and being a schizo, while some paid US informant in the Venezuelan Army that suggested spending that money on Cadillac Escalades and shiny chromed guns cause they look cool and look like the ones the bad guys use in the telenovela got promoted.
To be fair the same scenario would have played out regardless of Maduro's political leanings.
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>>529643153
Iran is a lot stronger, for one. It’s far, far weaker than the USA (duh) but it’s not a slouch. Venezuela is a borderline failed state that’s rife with corruption and critically, had important high up people in its military and government willing to sell out Maduro. The Venezuelan strike was consensual, they turned off their defenses to let the Americans in. The only actual fighting was against Maduro’s personal guard, who were Cuban and loyal to him. Iran is a different story, it’s firmly against the USA and isn’t working with us. And its military isn’t stupid, you are going to see them take hits like they’ve taken with the opening strike killing so many of the leadership, and keep going and using what they have to frustrate us.
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>>529646391
Yes. This administration has zero follow through, and it's just going to be back to the same corruption as before within 6 months. The only difference is that the oil companies get to recoup the investments they lost access to ~25 years ago, which is what the invasion of Venezuela was about in the first place.
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>>529643153
They didn't have the religious dogmatism Iran has. Maduro's personal guard consisted of Cubans because he, rightfully, didn't trust his own people to not stab him in the back.
To the IRGC the Israelis just killed their Jesus, if not outright God.
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>>529643153
Because Venezuela was South Americas version of the UK's Glorious Revolution. I.e regime change was not only wanted, it was welcomed.
It sure fluffed up Trumps feathers about a successful military action etc, but there was little to no resistance.
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>>529643153
Because we really, really hate our government, we just can’t get rid of them (we have zero guns) and they know they would get zero support from us, in iran they are brain washed by both religion and years of you guys blowing them up so yeah they hate you guys alot
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