>>529645801
Israel wants to secure the greater Israel project and Iran wants to stop them.

>>529645801
Because those aren't real countries anymore between the two they are Israeli vassal states like the US

>>529645851
I don't doubt that being the case, but then why aren't the more local countries that are closer to Israel joining in or something?

>>529645801
trueeeeeeee

>>529645801
muslims hate eachother

>>529645801
Iran does not openly allow whores, faggots and child murder.
THIS IS NOT OK!

>>529645959
cuz they pooooosies

>>529645801
influence over the region

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>>529645801
Scripted political theater to kill goys and generate loosh for demons and their human compatriots.

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>>529645801
ask them.
they try to destroy us since the 80's

Historically, as in over millennia, that entire region would be ruled by what is now known as Turkey, Iran, or Egypt, with more or less leeway shifting between one or two of them.

Israel is by geography and demographics an irrelevant backwater - A connector between great powers for trade.

It is only modern necessity and overwhelming aid and force than makes Israel a player at all here.

>>529645801
end world prophecy, iranian leadership believes a war to destroy israel will trigger the end times

Because Iran is the most powerful nation in the region and Israelcucks need it gone.

>>529645801
Israel
>sees iran as threatening their interests via puppet groups like hezbollah and potential islamist formations
Iran
>desire to be a regional power, wants to puppet iraq and parts of syria and turkey
Geopolitical layer
>2022 russia attacks ukraine and iran backs russia putting them into their sphere
>russias invasion breaks down, china leaps in to buy up russian assets and starts debt trapping them
>iran finds itself semi-isolated, china promises weapons
>us bleeds russia out in ukraine and shifts focus to middle east
>removes venezuela as a potential problem just prior

>>529645801
Because Iran is a vile mud slime regime that hates Jews, Christians but most importantly they hate other Muslims and they want them to die for Allah. The best way to do that is to attack a bunch of big nosed yentas and then declare victim hood when they get taught a lesson in response. Never underestimate the Eternal Shia in its Semitic trickery.

>>529645801
because Iran is a threat to Israeli expansionism in the region

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>>529646346
I have come to terms with it long ago, we cannot ever hope to defy the archons directly, our best hope is to bend the knee, keep our heads down and offer tribute to the archons in exhange for their help against the shitskins and kikes so we can eventually become a new pro-white elites

Iran spent the last few decades yelling "death to israel" over and over again. During these decades, Iran kept dugging it's own grave economically while Israel kept getting richer. It's a wonder Iran didn't read where this was going and stop antagonizing Israel, but that's muslims for you: they fuck around like it's their life mission.

>>529645801
More like Poland and Spain

>>529645959
they got buck broken last century. you should really watch the previous seasons before discussing current events.

Israel wants regional dominance. It refuses to play like a normal country, respecting its neighbors, making concessions...etc. Instead their mindset is that any country with more power than them...is another holocaust. If a country tries to get concession Holocaust! If a country wants them to stop assassinating and killing people, that's literally a holocaust!!! We need to completely eradicate them!!!

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>>529645801
>Why are these two even fighting?
>They're literally going out of their ways to fight each other, hopping over multiple countries in the process

The same 5 reasons we always go to war:
https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/5%20reasons%20we%20go%20to%20war/

1) the Rothschilds want a FED in that country to control the money
2) the Kikes in Kontrol want to be able to buy the oil at a price they want to pay for it. If the person in that country controlling the oil wont sell it to them at a price they wanna pay, they overthrow that person and install a puppet that will sell them the oil at the price they want to pay.
3) gold. The Kikes in Kontrol are like raccoons and love shiny things and cant keep their hands off it. They want to go in and take over control of the gold
4) assets and minerals. The Kikes in Kontrol want to take over the minerals, assets, drugs, in order to continually have power and money flowing off the books
5) people, the Kikes in Kontrol want to control the people

Iran checks off every single box.

1) Iran is one of the few countries left in the world that the Jews dont control the money and have a FED in place
2) The Kikes in Kontrol want to make money off the oil sales and they are currently not making money off the oil sales from Iran
3) Iran has a lot of gold and they are not sharing with the Jews
4) There is a lot of land in Iran and the Jews want to control all of it
5) to spread "democracy" (degeneracy) to Iran

>>529645801
cuz your friends in middle east attack irans guys in syria, lebanon.

>>529647235
>normal countries don’t want regional dominance
Retard

>>529645801
>Why are these two even fighting?
Israel wants the Moloch statue of old Babylon back.

>>529645801
>why
>jews
obviously someone could ask why jews do things but answer for that is simply they're evil

Ultimately, who looked at whose plate? Not only that, lol with data then harvested; who's responsible for needing to eat cake and have someone else's?
>artificial v organcy

>>529646346
There is something to this. Something about this whole thing seems fake and gay.

>>529645801

you obviously don't understand geopolitics

>https://youtu.be/tw_eRI3KwMc

>>529647237
(cont.)
*looks at maps*
which means iran is zogged and this war is bread and circus
at the highest echelon, theyre pilots in the atlantic council's central banking digital currency plan.
the animosity is bogus.
people die over this, sure
but its all bread an circus

>b-but the kikes are dying
its not the first time kikes sacrifice fellow kikes to further their goals
zionism was built upon the pogroms that happenned in the soviet union
perpetrated by the nkvd.
who were... rolling drums... 80% jews.

Iran wanted the Sh'ite axis, through Iraq, Syria, Lebanon to reach the Mediterranean. This is the timeless geopolitical expansion of the Persians, under a modern religion banner. Israel basically wants to be left alone, with some buffer, neutral states around it. At the end of the day, they could come to an understanding to split influences in the aforementioned area, if not for the added dimension of the ideological hatred brought on by the Palestinian issue.

>>529645801
jews think everyone is beneath them, they want to take over the world, they are starting with europe and the middle east and working their way east

>>529646394
why?

>>529645801
Iran's state bank is not controlled by Rothschild.

>>529645851
Is that what's happening??? lol dumbass

>>529648110
They're not on the Atlantic Council. What you showed is a tracker by the Atlantic Council, of how various countries are experimenting with CBDC's. CBDC's are a tool that any country could use, for their own reasons. They don't imply geopolitical alignment. Just like all countries using oil and electricity, doesn't make them friends.

>>529648143
go ask any muslim why he want to destroy my country im sure he have a reasonable answer

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>>529645801
Because kikes are demonic. Iran is the only country resisting them, so they send their best golem to attack them, because they can't suffer somebody not being their slave.

>>529645801
kikes moved into a muslim neighbourhood and want everybody to stop being so muslim around them. much like if you move into the party area of a city and then send loads of noise complaints to the council. cunts basically.

>>529645801
You wana know? Let me bumb before this thread magically locks.

>>529648439
Arabs because they dream of Caliphate, Turks because they dream of Sultanate, Iranians because they dream of Xerxes.

At the end of the day, they're all imperialists, whereas Israel has a vested interest in the concept of nation-states.

>>529648409
ah ok
stupid me
ill delete the post then, to avoid misleading anons
if i still can

>>529645801
Jews being Jews.

>>529645801
>Why are the two countries with nuke programs built to fight each other fighting
Yeah ha so dumb it's not like missiles can go past more than one line on a map!

>>529645801
I dunno maybe because Iran is on record stating the want to eradicate Israel and Israel has at least part of Iran sketched in for their Greater Israel ambition?

>>529645801
All the countries in between are fake and were drawn by anglos as buffer/puppet states. The natural situation without foreign intervention would be either Israel or Iran owning the whole region.

>>529645801
Here

Is

The

Brutal

Grim

Truth

2026 2026 2028 we will see nothing but the collapse as we know it

2026 : global water bankruptcy confirmed
Outcome : the earth's very coolant system is GONE
Implications: the "afterburner" has been turned on 2026 will be the year the northern hemisphere burns with wildfires so out of control that they are literally burning right now underground "zombie fires"


Omfg I dont even wana type if I start telling you how bad it really is you'll shit your pants.


How about this. THEY KNOW THE CLOCK IS BASICALLY OUT SO WHY NOT GO TO WAR BEFORE THEY BUNKER DOWN AND WE DIE.

>>529648725
Good anon, I was expecting to be called a Jew

>>529645801
I have also been thinking about this today. Iran could just exist without caring what Israel does, but they choose not to. Is it because of the Palestinians? To protect shia muslims?
They should have just given Israel this tiny Gaza strip which has neglectable size anyway and resettle the Palestinians to Iran or so, there they could have had their Shia Ethno state just like Israel is trying to have it for the jews

>>529645801
moshe fuck off already

>>529648439
why don't you tell us? should I also read a book? typical kike deflection

>>529646455
They might just be right too.

>>529645801
Israel, UAE and US don't want an opposing regional power in middle east.
They're just blatantly trying to gut Iran.

>>529645801
Jews have a genocidal rage against everything living. Iran is just the next closest currently not under golem occupation

>>529645801
Technically Iran created Israel.

>>529649215
They're just lost in a "grand strategy" beyond the nation state, aka an empire. It's a feature of authoritarian regimes. Although you could also see that as resistance against the American empire, I guess.

>>529646394
I wonder why?

>>529649116
kek.
im not an actual poltard. im capable of nuance
in fact, i sterted redpilling people before the term was invented, and before 4chan itself even existed

>>529645801
Iran is funding all of Israel's closer enemies

>>529645801
>This would be like Poland and France fighting or something.
yeah, crazy thing, france and russia used to fight each other

the middle east is just the pvp zone of the planet. it's been blowing up every day for decades

>>529649215
to get it you need to understand how and why modern Iran was created
their revolution was an explicitly anti-Ango one, it's no exaggeration to say that they hate Jews because Jews are allied with Brits and Americans, rather than the other way around
this has been their policy since, to oppose America in the middle east above all else
this is purely ideological

>>529645801
the one believes the entire world was made solely for them, the existence of the other proves that not true.

>>529645801
Iran has refused to accept the existence of Israel and has done everything in the power to attack Israel.
This is part of why they fund terrorist groups.
Also, Iran wants to be the dominant Muslim country so they try to destabilize other powerful Islamic countries like Turkey and SA.
Iran is also a major source of munitions for Russia, and oil for china.
Tbh im surprised it took this long after the Ukraine war for us to go after them.
Iran is a major source of support for the Russian war effort, and with Russia tied down in Ukraine Iran has never been more vulnerable.
I think we were hoping last year would make Iran retaliate and give us a better casus beli, but they didn't go for it

>>529649215
>>529649808
you retards really think this is fooling anyone?

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>>529649926
oh, excuse me I forgot where I was, clearly it's jews something jews bad evil and something massons and that's why everything is the way it is
happy, retard?

>>529645801
Islamists have a bad habit of seething about things happening half a world over and you question this...?
If a book burns in Sweden people die in Pakistan because of how rabid they get over said fact.

Isreal has committed awful war crimes one after another for 50 years, without US support isreal would be destroyed by everyone. The Arabs, Iranians, but also counties like Turkey and Russia who are all just sick of isreali terrorism.

Nothing has changed, isreal forces the US to support them by threatening gulf oil, through blackmailing the american elites with Epstein shit, by subverting Western democracies.

The US wants to pick a different regional ally, isreal can't let that happen. Same shit for 50 years.

>>529649440
how can you see a country hanging up giant signs with a picture of missiles on them while writing a threat in the language of the country they are targeting and think they are good people.
its literally say "a shelter? prepare your coffins." its aimed to civilians
this are the "cartoonishly evil" shit you constantly talk about. you are seriously ill and cursed

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>>529645801
The jews were the to release the chomo-in-chief's child pornographies if he didn't attack

>>529645959
Because those countries aren't actual states anymore.

>>529646408
This.
The "promised land" is functionally a wasteland with no natural resources.
The beaches of Gaza might one day make for a nice tourist resort, but thats it.
Look at the ancient empires that have ruled the region and you see where the real power centers lie.
The me has been a problem ever since the fall of the ottomans in WW1 that left the Europeans trying to figure out how to handle it.
Conventional neolib/neocon thinking was that stability could be reached by trying to balance influence from the major power centers.
The soviets installed a puppet government in Iran in the 80s though that made that plan unworkable.
More recently (roughly following the fall of ISIS), thinking seems to have shifted toward picking one of the power centers and propping them up to rule the region.
Right now its a toss-uo between Turkey and SA for the inherited of that role, with the US favoring SA and Europe favoring turkey.
Regardless, the plan is to create an Islamic Union, that will resemble the EU on paper, but with classic Islamic theocratic elements.
It will be a sort of western-backed caliphate.
We came up with this idea after the failures of the GWOT made us realize that the region is incompatible with western democracy.
They want a theocracy, so we decided to create one that we can work with.
The only problem left after Syria was Iran.
The Russians and chinese dont want stability in asia minor because it keeps western countries distracted.
For Russia a volatile middle east keeps europe dependant on energy imports and for china they need the imports from SA and Iran.
Plus, America being forced to keep naval assets in the gulf keeps us from deploying them to asia to curtail chinese pressure campaigns.

>>529650440
>oy vey how dare you not fall for my pilpul
shut the fuck up

>>529645801
Just wait until you see how far away the USA is from all of it.

>>529645801
Kikes are being kikes.
5th column.

>>529647993
Israel wanted the boomers neocon/lib plan of balancing regional powers (since this would allow them to play power broker).
That all went to shit with ISIS, so now they are cuddling up to the Saudis.
SA puts on an act, but they are the closest ally Israel has in the region.

>>529647237
>1) the Rothschilds want a FED in that country to control the money
Not correct.
Rothschilds are London kings bankers .
From there , you can extrapolate everything else.

Oil is correct.
London and western euro oligarchs want to buy oil at the price they want, i.e. cheap.
Even OPEC headquarters are not in some middle east, but in Vienna, AUSTRIA.
>Austria is home of euro kings Habsburgs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPEC

>>529649215
Its definitely not the Palestinians.
Iran just uses them as sacrificial pawns to cause problems for Israel.
As a side note, I can't understand why anyone expects me to feel sympathy for Muslims when their entire religion is based on conquest and was founded by a warlord.
I hate to sound like reddit here, but its like someone asking me to feel sorry for the orcs for losing in lord of the rings.

>>529651248
its not even a pilpul you dumb nigger its just the truth you worship insane mudshits

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>>529645801
because Iran won't stop attacking and Israel doesn't want to be killed

>>529649423
No, the ottomans did and they were from Anatolia.

>>529649846
>Iran is also a major source of munitions for Russia
>Iran is a major source of support for the Russian war effort,
Dumb.
Since you cannot name a single one thing,
other than Russia purchasing drones from Iran that now has been modified about 20 times by russians. So you really can't call them iranian drones.
In the mean time Russia provides air defense for Iran.
>last time this started, Mossad headquarters in Tel Aviv were hit by a russian missile btw.

>>529649808
They had some legitimate grievances against the shaw, but ever since the revolution they have been nothing but a soviet and Russian proxy state who's sole purpose is to cause problems for the west.
Thats what the Russians created them to do

>>529650440
>oy wey , we killed 15 iranian nuclear scientists
>and a few other scientists
>why are they attacking us.
You kikes are great. Maybe you should stop killing iranian scientists?

>>529652328
This is retarded.
Iran is an Ancient Persia, also ancient Aryans,
they are identical to Russia by DNA.
>there are R1a and R1b haplogroups.

Also Russia knows that if US/UK/NATO breaks Iran, then the war will come back to Russian territory.
This is basic logic for you western terrorists.

>>529646394
ok shlomo

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>>529645959
Egypt is corrupt. The rich countries like UAE and Saudi want US money. Jordan is buck broken. Houthis are weak. Hamas is dead. Hezbollah is dead.

>>529652632
The pro-russian shilling over the last few days has been fucking wild