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Is usa army really stronger than china army? I think it at least way close than most people think, even without nukes of course
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>>529661476
Chink army is disgustingly weak.
Terrible equipment.
Terrible soldiers.
Terrible leadership.
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>>529661476
As long as Amerimutt bugmen seethe and cope thats a good thing
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lol
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>>529661857
Australia must have a mossad bought pvn farm.
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>>529661476
wont be the armies fighting, mainly navies and air force
if conventional war, depends.
a short term war good for china
a medium term war good for usa
a long term war good for china
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there's no way
if recent wars show us anything (ukraine, palestine, now iran) it's that drones are absolutely fucking OP in current meta - and China is the king of drones, they are able to make them at scale uncomparable to anyone else and they are better too

plus they have an insane fleet and more soldiers than anyone else in the world
they could crush entire world on their own and they dont do it because they just want to chill and trade
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>>529661476
China just saw all these tech is worthless trash and Xi has been having purges every week now
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>>529661476
China hasn't fought a war since 1979. They're green around the ears.
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>>529661476

>Is usa army really stronger than china army?
Yes and it is not even close.
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>>529661476
>Is usa army really stronger than china army?
Do you see the ccp sending the pla to aid iran?
NOPE.
You also see the ccp shitting the bed over japan having a military again.
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>>529661476
More IA, more dead muslims.
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The PLA was a meme until Xi modernized them but they still have absolutely no combat experience and officers waste a lot of time learning political texts instead of military ones.
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>>529661857
fpbp
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>>529663281
sure thing, Chang
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>>529663592
Don't forget he also created the "humanitarian" arm of the pla.
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>>529661476
chinksects are so mindbroken by the heavy handed propaganda they believe anything.

The Ayatollah is dead along with his entire family. His successor is dead and all of the highest ranking military officials are dead.

Maduro got kidnapped so fast there wasn't even an Amber Alert. Do you where he is now? He is in the same NYC cell block as Tekashi 69, who recently violated his parole.

The USA will snatch that chinkoid Xi faster than you can say Christopher Robin.

You think China can't be touched? You really think you can't be touched?
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Should add that he's long been obsessed by the idea that the USSR fell because they neglected to keep their armed forces politically indoctrinated so they refused to save the dying CPSU in the August '91 coup.
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>I think it at least way close than most people think
Then you're retarded for getting duped by CCP propaganda.
All three of their joke carriers cannot even defeat one of our Nimitz class carriers 3v1. Their nuclear submarines sink at dock in china and leak radiation all over the place.
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>>529661857
Can confirm. I fired off more shots from my personal gun with my brother for fun in one weekend than the average soldier fires off for practice in a year. The equipment they sell to their allies is junk and malfunctions constantly.
Their two allies who sold them oil are now both decapitated and the equipment china sold to them didn't do SHIT to stop it.
China is weak and everyone can see it now. They better kowtow sooner rather than later.
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>>529661476
YELLOW PERIL
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>>529664452
>All three of their joke carriers cannot even defeat one of our Nimitz class carriers 3v1.
And all of your Nimitz class carriers could not prevent picrel.
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>>529661476
Its pretty obvious they have a weak military which is why they focus on the economy and political posturing to get things.

The fact they still haven't even invaded Taiwan shows they don't have much faith in their military to achieve things for them.

Good
Fuck China

Last thing the world needs is an army of changs brainwashed by marxism destroying the world
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>>529661476
they would build a thousand times as many missiles as the jewsa that's for sure
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>>529663281
>they could crush entire world on their own
Absolutely fucking delusional.
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>>529661476
They haven't fought for a long time. It's hard to estimate what they actually have, let alone what their experience may be (spoiler: it's 0).
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>>529663395
Despite the fact that their current "leadership" acquired their power via extreme violence, they have absolutely zero idea how to do war. Their equipment and training is beyond abysmal.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Reform_Movement#Mass_killings_of_landlords
"Class-motivated mass murder continued almost throughout the 30 years of social and economic transformation in Maoist China, by the end of the reforms, the landlord class had largely been eliminated from mainland China or it had fled to Taiwan."
In reality landlords are some of the most ambitious members of society and the Commie Chinks decided to kill as many as they could get their hands on.
Little bonus:
>"landlords were buried alive, dismembered, strangled, or shot. In many villages, landlords' women were 'redistributed' as concubines or daughters for peasants or pressured into marrying their husband's persecutors"
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>>529666182
>Plastic knives
>Probably plastic guns
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>>529664138
>Anonymous (ID: NFSXd8uz) 03/02/26(Mon)20:09:25 No.529

>>529664138
Go ahead nigger, just "liberate" China with a 72 hours Special Military Operation. USA, Israel, Russia, India and the UK must be glassed into the oblivion to solve 99% of world's problems
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>>529666620
They did melt indians apparently.
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>>529661476
Not according to U.S. simulations. They actually nerf the scenario just so they can beat the Chinese in simulations.
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>>529667537
It's literally that easy to give your enemy a false sense of security.
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>>529667428
>USA, Israel, Russia, India and the UK must be glassed into the oblivion to solve 99% of world's problems
China is not a military nation, their military doesn't factor significantly into their economy, nor do they have any real military experience.
The footage and other evidence we've seen indicates they are completely unprepared and have horrible equipment.
At the moment they also have significant domestic problems: protests, infrastructure crumbling within a few years after construction. They don't develop their own population. Instead their priority is propaganda.
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>>529661476
China's army is large and in parts high tech but it's completely untested in any real meaningful way. They have millions of troops but not a single instructor who can tell them what it's like to be in a sustained firefight or how to survive an artillery barrage.
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>>529668298
II don't give a shit about military readiness. The Chinese take pride in their country because they know exactly what humiliation feels like, the same humiliation Europeans are experiencing right now. They took an oath to never let themselves be internally broken again, ensuring no one could ever take advantage of them. That right there is exactly why I'd rather have China as an ally than NATO kike pedophiles and Russian ziggers
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>>529668810
they wont ever be in firefight, they have so many drones they can just send them infinitely, they can produce them faster than wee could shoot them down
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>>529661476
I think Chinese military is overrated.

We used to believe Russia was very powerful before and we saw it wasn't the case with Ukraine. I think for China it is the same.
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>>529668810

Anon, it just come to - how their combat jets doing against USA combat jets

This is the biggest subject obviously

For which, we have no idea how it goes down
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>>529670203

China have more satellites than the entire EU and more aircraft carrier and gen 5 jets even


But let’s focus on satellite, which are absolutely important in war.
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>>529669901
They are just the latest crop of sneaky Asians. Asians don't like direct confrontations on a personal level or global level. The only one crazy enough to attack is Kim.
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>>529663035
America wins in a war of attrition because China will be cut off from external trade and the USA will not.
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>>529670203
I know this is a common NAFO cope to say otherwise, but Russia is the strongest military on this planet. They're the literal definition of blood, steel and fire - they're willing to die fighting.
I'm not gonna die fighting, not for any of you homos. And none of these NAFO retards are either evidentially.
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>>529661476
In 1979 China invaded Vietnam while most of Vietnam’s troops were in Cambodia. The local Vietnamese militia comprised of mostly women halted the Chinese advance and inflicted 100,000 casualties on the Chinese. That was the last war China was in.
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>>529661476
Yes. And every other military. And all other militaries combined. And it's not even close. We spent more on our military last year than the entire rest of the globe has spent on theirs in ten.

Fall in line, faggots.
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>>529670470
I mean, why would anyone prefer direct confrontation when you could focus all those resources on the people's well-being and actually work toward human development? The United States of Israel is a death cult that wants to destroy this planet, God will not forgive you.
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Yes by an order of magnitudes. All China really had going for it is the sheer quantity of materiel. In terms of lb for lb capability they’re nobodies. A single French battalion would mop the floor with a Chinese one. The danger lies in their size and quantity.
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>>529670397
The USA has more SM-3 missiles than China has satellites, and China's ASAT missiles need guidance from their satellites to hit other satellites.
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>>529671218

It depends on how good their gen 5 combats are really and how they do against USA gen 5 combat jets
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>>529661476
Chyna probably has other priorities right now.
Such as developing a defence system that ACTUALLY works
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>>529663281
>a single EMP wipes out your entire drone army

oops, also drones are only effective against troops, not machines. Numbers of troops is literally the only thing China's military has going for it.

This is yet another line of huge communist cope, glazing China for anything they think they can find. China itself is fully aware it would lose a war with America which is why they wage war through subversion such as all the communist Americans being Chinese patriots.
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>>529666927
>In reality landlords are some of the most ambitious members of society
>the most ambitious
kek

>the landlord class had largely been eliminated
>kill as many as they could get their hands on
Mega Based.
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>>529661476
America's military budget is the rest of the world combined
Still very unwise to go into conflict and it would 100% cripple america permanently if we did but we would win.
>China has a bakajillion people
Bigger killer count per bomb, numbers are irrelevant outside of manufacturing more bombs
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>>529671442
China figured out low observable stealth but it's nowhere near as effective as American models. Chinese aircraft are loud, hot, and a sniper pod will pick one of them up and have a target lock and an AMRAAM in the air before the Chinese gen 5 realizes it's not alone
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>>529661476
When fighting within china I would rather not test them.
Fighting somewhere else they are probably shit
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>>529667428
You see you fucking inbred shitskin retard. There is a difference between what you want to be real and what is real. I notice this is a huge hang up for the mentally retarded midwits.

Just because you wish China's army was stronger than America's doesn't make it so. It doesn't matter how much you hate America, our army is still the strongest in the world thus far. It doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with this fact, it doesn't matter if you dislike American ideology, it doesn't matter if you think Chinese ideology is better than American ideology. Welcome to the world of realpolitik, where people actually get killed, not because of their ideas but because of the physical reality of the universe.
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>>529670397
>gen 5 jets
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>>529669901
What does this have to do with the actual strength of a nation? Again, you're clearly low IQ and probably a shitskin. You think real life is a fucking anime where the winner just has to have stronger convictions LMFAO.
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>>529671103
> when you could focus all those resources on the people's well-being and actually work toward human development?
China doesnt do that though. Westerners have a higher standard of living than Chinamen
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>>529670751
>Russia is the strongest military on this planet
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>>529670751
Whats it like being 80IQ?
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>>529670751
What is this larp
We are not knights with swords fighting with skill and honor and all that gay shit.
This is modern warfare, actual serious warfare is exploding people and infrastructure with bombs
The infantry are just the clean up crew
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None of these countries really understand war, and besides just having a lot of resources, the Americans understand it best.
What makes a good military is a good NCO corps. That's really the core of it all and what makes a military effective.
NCOs are non-commissioned officers who are promoted through the ranks via a meritocratic system. Commissioned officers are trained to be officers and are usually appointed right out of the academy.
NCOs are knowledgeable, experienced, and crucially are able to make informed decisions in battlefield scenarios. NCOs make every unit adaptable and reactive. They don't have to wait for orders, they don't have to rely on a sprawling chain of command, they have the confidence and the authority to make decisions on their own.
Russia, China, Arab countries, etc, rely mostly on commissioned officers and functional equivalents. They are "educated" but lack the confidence that comes from real experience, they have no rapport with their men, and they're overly reliant on cumbersome command structures that delay response times. Often their officers are a wholly separate political or social class.
If you need to make a split second decision to save lives, and you're relying on a rigid command system, or even political commissars as is still the case in China, you're fucked. Your unit will be slow, inflexible, and lacking the confidence and experience it needs.
NATO countries, and especially the USA, have a long history of professional, voluntary military service, which is how you promote NCOs with real expertise.
Russia/China/Arabs have armies of conscripts led by inexperienced commissioned officers who lack the authority and autonomy to make crucial decisions.
If China wants a strong military, what it needs to do is invest in its professional military and raise up NCOs, and it can do that by undertaking police action just as the USA does, essentially by sending its troops to foreign countries to gain practical experience in conflict zones.
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>>529672597
80IQ retardation. They're basically trannies but instead of believing they can become women, they watch shounen anime and think they can overcome impossible odds with the power of friendship, dreams and will.
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>>529672597
Like you're far more likely to lose a war because your enemy bombed your food supply lines and starved your civilian population trying to get them to revolt than like some larp 1v10 fighting to the last man Hollywood movie
Muh war and military obsessed retards don't truly understand how lame actual "we need to win" war is
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>>529671103
>why would anyone prefer direct confrontation when you could focus all those resources on the people's well-being and actually work toward human development?
t. Economically illiterate
Everyone should just sing kumbayas and hold hands! Nobody will ever be hostile ever!
If we just give poor "people" free food, education, and housing then they'll be uplifted!!!
Deranged, ignorant fucking moron.
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>>529670751
If the Russian army is so good why are they struggling bigly agianst Ukraine?
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>>529663035
I’d say a short war is better for America too. They could do more damage and shake the whole system before china can have time to rebuild it
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Chinese live in slums, kill themselevs during slave labor rituals and eat dogs
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>>529671442
>gen 5 combats
Completely untested and by their mental attitude of zerg-rush military they don't care to ensure good functional quality.
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The Chinese have proven ability to produce 5x more drones than the USA.
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>>529671759
>drones are only effective against troops, not machines
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>>529673411
All Chinese equipment is practically untested. They were using hand me down Soviet shit last time they were remotely engaged in anything
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>>529672262
This is exactly what a death cult looks like, mongoloids cucks betrayed by their nation with no future, no genuine social connections and no family values. You're all zombies programmed by ZOG to destroy your kins so that the (((choosen people))) can triumph. You have no real national pride because you have no respect for yourself. You should all jump in a mass grave and end this plague once and for all.
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>>529661476
Last time China fought the US, they kicked them out of North Korea for good.
And they did this with a budget smaller than the budget of some movies about the Korea war, while they were still fighting the civil war in 4 fronts.
Things have changed, now China makes the parts the US need to make weapons.
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>>529671762
If you don't understand that eliminating the ambitious members of your own society is a bad move for the gene pool then you're beyond help.
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>>529673440
99% of Chinese production is in two cities. How much could the Chinese go into production with two days of bejing carpet bombing?
Most of China and Russia is very condensed in hot spots, it's probably the biggest benefit america has all spread out in its own country and throughout the world in 100s of military bases
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>>529670752
>100,000 casualties on the Chinese.
Be less jewish, lie smaller numbers.
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>>529671896
They're not known for any level of good engineering/testing. Considering intellectuals of society need a favorable view of their government in order to be willing to support it, how probable is it they have dedicated their competence towards engineering sophisticated military equipment?
The US (and much of the modern West) was born out of military needs.
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iran just showed us US is a paper tiger that couldn't even protect their assets and bases in the middle east, forget about fighting china when they're going into another 20 years war with iran and lose again, LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>529674036
We killed 80 generals and their supreme leader in 2 days but you think it's equal because they killed 4 random soilders
Haha I suppose 4 US gods is on par with 80 generals
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>>529661476
>Is usa army really stronger than china army?
yes, but they're not stronk enough to invade china or combat china in east asia.
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>>529674028
America has always been in conflict since its inception and will always be. It's why we even invested into our military and larped as world police for 70 years. It's kind of insane we even pretend to not be a war nation
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>>529674036
How many dead Americans do you foresee
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>>529673027
You schlomos co-opt the holy name of Jesus to promote your deranged ideology of death and calling it "conservative", while our church preaches peace, ecumenism and prosperity. You jews will not win, we have god on our side, and the fact that zog-controlled Europe place itself in the western hemisphere as you disgusting kikes makes me sick in the soul. You will never be our equal, because we love life.
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>>529661476
china has to steal technology so they will always be at least one generation behind
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Nah I think they are probably stronger than us.

We could jump on them and make them unable to fight back beyond guerilla shit. But eventually they would build insane underground factories and shit and overwhelm us.
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>>529674640
Bro most of the country is so poor and undeveloped that foreigners literally are not allowed to go most of China and they have government jannies keep an eye on you when you visit
They are not building super scifi underground mega factored anytime soon
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>>529674591
>ideology of death
Hostilities are a fact of life. Ideology has nothing to do with this reality (other than being a potential source of hostile attitudes).
If we don't defend ourselves against it we are sure to be victims of it.
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>>529674776
Serpentza drove around the country. I remember watching a Brit drive around to some village and build a factory there. They're dirt poor. Their government has given absolutely zero shits about their peasants for a long time.
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>>529661476
The sad truth is most armies are pretty laughable in the modern world. There might be some elite squads but as a whole there is no army capable of conquering even their neighbors let alone the world. Partly due to modernization and partly due to people getting softer (which is also modernization but still a distinct thing.)

This is to say these dicks swinging contests are pointless. If nobody can finish the deed we're better off just not doing it at all.
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>>529661857
This, our war with China will just need to be insanely scary since its we need to kill 3 to their 1 that is their advantage.
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>>529675606
But the military industrial complex needs more shekels!
THINK OF LOCKHEED MARTIN ENGINEERS' FAMILIES ANON
OY VEY
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>>529675606
>This is to say these dicks swinging contests are pointless. If nobody can finish the deed we're better off just not doing it at all.
There was HUGE technological advancement after WWII. Why? War, where your existence is at risk, forces you to take action, to develop technologies, equipment, methodologies... to bring working theories to reality and find what works NOW so that you can hopefully survive. To shift resources that would normally be sitting idle to where they are needed and figure out how to effectively use them. This creates a change in attitude amongst the population that can last for several generations.
Is it pointless? Ask your enemy. Ask your military. Ask the Nazis...
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>>529676109
The thing about progress is just because you're moving forward doesn't mean you're headed in a good direction.
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>>529675819
>the military industrial complex needs more shekels
I used to think this was a bad thing but when you study both the economics and the population effects you understand that it makes the nation much stronger. "We printed money to give to our own citizens to make them do sophisticated things."
>What about the CEOs and others getting rich
It's human nature to collect things, especially valuable things like money/wealth. The government can just print more money.
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>>529676351
True. We should progress towards mass deportations, restricting welfare, and restoring segregation.
Excessive welfare is probably the most significant factor in your picrel.
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>>529675349
You manufacture hostilities you don't defend yourself, you make wars not even to foster prosperity of your own people by robbing other countries' resources, you make wars to make pedophiles shareholders happy while your own people become more and more miserable.

>muh le funny numbers
finance is a spook, it is incel flavour astrology made by jews to normalize usury, kill yourself if you unironically thinks that economics is a science
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>>529676627
Those would be good steps. I'm not saying don't fight, I'm saying don't fight for no reason. "Line must go up" is not a good reason, "consolidation and reformation" is. That changes the enemy but like good? That's the point? First step is getting rid of every drop of kike blood on the planet first. Only then can progress be honest.
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>>529676849
>You manufacture hostilities you don't defend yourself
No. Those hostilities are genuine.
>you make wars
If necessary. Usually justified as self defense but never not necessary.
>not even to foster prosperity of your own people
The prosperity is an automatic side-effect of good decisions.
>robbing other countries' resources
Not really... usually paying a fair price. There is a thing called "spoils of war," "to the victor goes the spoils," etc...
>you make wars to make pedophiles shareholders happy
That's probably the lowest on our priority list.
>while your own people become more and more miserable.
Cheer up, goyims! Don't you know you need to fight another war for some pedos?
>>muh le funny numbers
>finance is a spook
What?
>it is incel flavour astrology made by jews to normalize usury
They used to say it was usury if the interest rate was above a certain limit. The government imposes a variety of limits on interest rates now.
>kill yourself
No. You.
>you unironically thinks that economics is a science
A science? It certainly is a vital matter that can make or break a nation.
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>>529675704
We killed 60 Vietcongs to 1. It's extremely doable
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>>529669901
Show flag you bitch
> They took an oath to never let themselves be internally broken again, ensuring no one could ever take advantage of them.
Yeah right
>raped by the Jin
>raped by Mongol
>raped by Manchu
>raped by Brits
>raped by Japs
>raped by retarded commie like Mao
>tried to sneak attack VN but got raped instead
The last based Chinese dynasty is the Tang, after that it’s just a long ass history of being raped by foreign powers because their retarded leaders were too busy purging their own people to stay in power, which is exactly what Xi’s doing
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>>529664138
They are more formidable than Iran. Not that they don't have any faults, but a war with China wouldn't really translate the same as the recent happenings of Iran and Venezuela. They're such a vast and economically important nation that it truly be something akin to a futuristic follow up of WW2.
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>>529677893
I hope you find love in your family or wife
>>529679128
Happy now?
Mao unified a nation under an idea and with Soviets' aid defeated Japan and those retards of KMT giving China back its deserved spot on the world stage, they lifted 700 millions people out of poverty and leads the world research in every fields that bring prosperity by co-opting market economy while tightly controlling it to assure that the fruit of capital benefits first and foremost chinese people and you indochinese niggers are seething over that because the only thing you obtained from market economy is low cost manufacturing of nike shoes while 3/4 of your country lives in slums
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>>529672687
This is the only non-retarded post in this thread
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>>529680004
>They are more formidable than Iran
That's not saying much. Just sunk literally all their boats within 48 hours.
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>>529672687
Finally a froggie that knows his shit
But China will never allow such a system to thrive because everything has to be filtered through the party, the NCOs officers are idealogical compromised in their eyes
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>>529680588
You forgot
>Ran over students (another high-value demographic) with literal tanks for protesting because they wanted a democratic government
>Turned many of them into human pulp
Make no mistake about it. Communism is the most dangerous political ideology of Earth.
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>Chink commie government literally and unironically ordered their own soldiers to drive tanks over their own university students because they wanted democracy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9A51jN19zw
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>>529681629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaojdRThXbY
not killing civilians is something your police state cannot fathom, an ICE officer would've deleted that man out of the existence. The protests in Tiananmen Square were not lead by Hu Yaobang's reformists, they were Chen Yu's conservatives who called for a rollback of Deng Xiaoping's liberal reforms, so they killed hundreds of people to shut the movement, but that was 1989 China, yes, a third world shithole with remnants of Mao's era policies that was reforming to finally compete in the world market, but it was a third world shithole that was changing at an exponential rate. Now it's completely different and some of the many signs are economic prosperity and a great consensus for party policies that become total consensus if the american threat is taken into account.
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>>529681328
And that's ultimately why Russia/China/Arabs will always lose against western armies.
The military is a wing of the political establishment rather than being its own separate branch. Competent commanders and officers are seen as threats to the status quo. Xi and Putin want militaries that are competent enough to project power and win wars, but not so competent that they can threaten the regime, so they take steps to divide and control the officers in a way that only ends up sabotaging them. They deny them crucial battlefield information, they sow discord, they pit generals against one another, and all of this dysfunction comes back to a lack of NCOs.
What happened with Wagner is a perfect example of this kind of self-sabotaging thinking.
The Russian military is a conscript army led by commissioned officers. It is weak and ineffective, and it's held down by a cumbersome and elaborate command structure designed to exert top-down control, not to facilitate warfighting. Its leaders are constantly pitted against one another as a way to protect the regime, because Putin fears coups.
Wagner was a PMC force. It was made up of professional, career soldiers with real experience who wanted to be there, and it was led by the equivalent of an NCO in the form of Prigozhin. He had real military experience and he understood and respected his troops. He was able to act and make decisions largely on his own, and the result of that was pretty much the only real victories and gains of the war.
Wagner was far and away the single most effective force in the RU's arsenal and how were they rewarded? Internal sabotage. They were scared of him so they fucked with him until he couldn't fight effectively. They pissed it all away because of politics.
China is the same. Every competent military leader is a threat to the party. Arab countries are basically just cyclical coups by popular generals so they absolutely cripple their army's ability to fight as a preventative measure.

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