>>529666734
I'm on month 3 and just starting to feel like my pre-alcoholic self.

>>529667016
I think im having a moment of clarity finally. I act like a retard when I drink and these hangovers are fucking gay.

>>529667237
Good.

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>>529666734
i havent drank in 2 years, but i miss it everyday.

>>529666734
Yeah man its crazy.
Every day I try to stop.

>>529666734
No, I'm dying of world leaders fatigue

>>529666734
Alcoholism isn't for me.
After a string of hangovers I just hate myself too much to keep on drinking.
Now I just wait for the weekend to hit the bottle.

>>529667614
Ive actually stopped a couple times. This helps a lot. It’s a natural benzo like xanax. Don’t over do it tho it will make things worse. 500-1000 mgs.

>>529667482
>2 years
same, i dont miss it tho. i was destroying myself for 10 years

I'm getting older and it just doesn't hit the same. Used to make me confident, funny, bring me out of my shell, euphoria, etc.

Now it just makes me tired and hazy, I just want to be left alone and listen to music and stuff. Hangovers are also getting unbearable and I think over the years its done brain damage, im not sharp like I used to be. Feel slow and sluggish.

>>529666734
Yeah its gotten to the point where i can barely function when i drink. I wont eat i wont take meds i wont brush teeth or shower, i dont even drink to feel good anymore just for the oblivion of it all. I dont get headaches or throw up but my stomach gets tight and i dont wanna eat food or do anything other than lay in bed and watch videos. Fuck it im tired of it, my liver hurts sometimes when i drink over a 5th

>>529666734
dropped lsd and said no more

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>>529667811
You never have a hangover if you start drinking when you get up the next morning.

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>>529667963
Please stop immediately, try weed or something microdose some shrooms.

>>529666734
I was supposed to stop drinking today for the start of March but forgot I had the day off so I bought a 10 pack of vodka shooters.

>>529667887
i find life very boring, i can't even enjoy vidya anymore. Drinking made everything great, music sounds better, movies watch better.

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>>529666734
Vidya doesn't do it for me anymore, there's no nature around me to get lost in, and I live my life in a four hour margin between getting home and going to bed to do it all again the next day. The only thing that fills the aggro burn necessity is whiskey.

>>529666734
Get yourself to a meeting or face the risk of dying from alcoholism—it’s your choice, friend. I won’t sugarcoat it; I’ll be upfront about this disease that’s trying to take lives, including yours and others’.

>>529668235
Yeah but now im on 2 shots before work or I get irritable

>>529668467
getting laid helped me

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>>529667912
>Now it just makes me tired and hazy, I just want to be left alone
thats literally old age thats not the booze
drinking in excess is jewish
everyone is different
some of us can drink everyday 2-3 beers
most cant
biggest reason (besides health) is money
its too expensive
i can get a 750ml of redlabel for like $20usd in south america
you go out to a bar its $20/drink
fuck this country

>>529668326
weed and shrooms are illegal you fucking retard

>>529666734

Take milk thistle

>>529666734
>alcohol
what a shitty drug just go do opioids already

8 months sober and I'm considering a bender.

I’ve been completely sober for exactly 1 week and 1 day (alcohol). I feel much better, but it isn’t easy anon. I’m right there with you.

I took a month and a half off last year. Couldn't believe how my sleep improved. Also did it as part of a cut (while drinking a lot before I was also working out a lot so thrned some of that into muscle which I exposed with fast). I felt great and looked like an underwear model but my girlfriend bitched and moaned that I was boring and he didn't care how I looked and she basically forced the bottle back into my hands. Oh well.

>>529666734
Should’ve just smoked weed instead

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>>529668398
That would last me 5-6 hours tops

>>529666734
Yeah, actually. Thinking of doing the same.

>>529668697
stay the fuck off the roads or else facing prison time...

>>529668958
I'm retarded but never have I been that retarded

>>529668958
I drink and drive all the time and I still drive better than 99% of asian drivers. Why should I get a ticket for having a buzz when they don't get a ticket for being asian?

>>529667482
I am coming up to two years and I miss it terribly too. Might be healthier but I'm definitely not happier.

>>529668718
nice work. i took a couple weeks off recently. did a 5 day water fast during that time too. it really helps. highly recommended. kinda wish i didn't drink again afterwards but im off the hard stuff at least.

>>529669157
He’s right, nothing worse than getting tied up in the judicial system. Even a DUI is something that will haunt your life for years and maybe, just maybe you can get it off your record if you pay enough money. Most likely not.

>>529669253
I’ve been debating a fast, I’ve switched to the ketogenic diet and I do intermittent fasting but I’ve never done a full on fast - which I hear is very beneficial for the liver.

>>529669157
this post is why alcohol should be ban forever...I didnt kill myself or others so I should be okay driving drunk. eat shit anon eat shit

>>529666734
Moderation my man, nothing wrong with a shot or two once in a while, but like with any substance if you overuse it you're going to have a bad time. Even with weed noobies make the mistake of not having a hit waiting for it to kick in before doing another, like with booze if you down 8 shots of vodka you're not going to have a fun time like you would if you just had one shot

Just went to but a cherry coke because I have hypoglycemia. Oof this hangover fucking sucks.

Get the Everything AA app on your phone its a very good source of information

>>529666734
For whatever reason, drinking seltzer water helps me stay sober. Give it a try.

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>>529666734

nigger

>>529669157
i've fucked up a few times. but i'm white, i am respectful, and drive a 90's f 150. never even gotten a ticket they always say go home. one time i even had a tallboy in the cup holder and the cop said don't take another sip and just go home.

>>529669651
Oh hell yea some seltzer with lemon and lime. Actually what helped me quit for a month a couple of years ago was making virgin bloody mary’s. For whatever reason the act of making a cocktail helped me not care that I didn’t have booze.

>>529669857
Where do you live 1960s Britain?

>>529666734
>people will kill themselves with alcohol to cope with how ridiculous their life is instead of changing it
imagine it's a bunch of jews going in your body and punching your cells

Alcohol is literally cope juice. Every single person that drinks regularly has a shitty miserable life that they feel they need to escape from. You know your life sucks and you're a loser and everyone knows you're a failure, so you have to drink to forget this fact. There is nothing wrong with drinking while celebrating something, maybe a once or twice a year type thing. That is what alcohol was made for. But for people that drink regularly out of habit, just know its because your life sucks and you need a crutch to cope.

>>529666734

https://www.aa.org/meeting-guide-app

>>529666734
I quit to support my gf at the time 10 years ago. We only dated for 3 years and she couldnt kick the habbit and kept drinking but somehow it stuck.for me even though I didnt really need to quit I had no issue with it. I'm trying to remind myself to have a drink once in a while at this point.. If you're run down, fighting a cold, or have other conditions alcohol can be a real problem. Although it can help you unwind after a hard day of work that can be helpful for your heart and ability to rest and recover. And I assume some alcohol once in a while could have other benefits. But if you're slowly killing yourself why not switch to edibles or some shit?

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>>529669419
You'd rather have me driving you around at .10 than your average mystery meat Uber driver, I'll tell you that. Cheers!

>hangout
newbie mistake, just drink more water

>>529666734
>>529667614
>>529668697

Try taking Dramamine. You can get a bottle of 50 at Walmart for like $6. If one kicks your ass, take a half for a few days until you get used to it. I usually take two.

>>529669157
Buzzed driving is not drunk driving. I can't stand when people make that comparison. It's just gaslighting.

No fap day 1 for me

>>529666734
I stopped drinking for a month and my bench increased from 100kg to 110kg but now my elbows hurt so what is the logical consequence?
Das rite.

Having a few shots in a 24 hour span is not alcoholism, doctors are just nerds

>>529669983
This pretty much sums it up

>>529669977
yes i guess they are just spooked by my american truck from 30 years in the future

>>529669857
Must be nice, to live wherever you live with real men and not nancy's like this guy.>>529669419

>>529670220
I’m gonna say I had 6 vodka shots and about 8 beers (5.5abv) yesterday

>>529669983
I kinda agree with you. But it is also formatting the system.

>>529669385
they say its good for pretty much everything if you keep up with drinking plenty of water and a pince of salt now and again. seriously, after the 3rd night (headache, couldnt sleep much) things mellowed out and it was like being buzzed on booze anyway. absolutely no desire to eat or drink anything other than water. was a really nice break and will do again for maybe 7 days soon. would have gone longer last time but wanted to make sure i wasn't causing any problems etc.

>>529666734
Most people are mentally ill, so I need to become mentally ill to survive.

>>529667237
Amen. I cringe the next day at the sms's I send to people when I'm drunk.

There are 4 main types of alcoholics

>people with obsessive compulsive disorder
>people with anxiety disorders
>people with emotional problems or just generally crazy
>people with unfortunate genetics that make them get chemically addicted to alcohol super easily

Of these groups the OCD group are the most likely to just drink themselves to death but they generally have good lives if they quit drinking.

The anxiety group actually often see their lives get worse when they quit which is really sad

The group with emotional problems often quit and move on to some other coping mechanism and see their lives improve

The people with just straight chemical addiction also often quit and see their lives improve

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I'm an ALPHA MALE. I was drinking myself to death so the GOVERNMENT sent me to detox facility. One day a new gang of criminal drug addicts arrived, and they picked a fight with me, so I KNOCCED DAT MUFUCCER out COLD with a ROCK.
My punishment is now 1 year probation, so I am not allowed to drink, only allowed to DRINK MONSTER and PLAY TARKOV

>>529670548
I always put Mediterranean sea salt in my RO water. I put about half a teaspoon in a gallon of water. I can usually kick a hangover with it if I drink half a gallon.l but not today.
>>529670665
Yea the text messages I send are retarded. One if the reasons im quiting.

>>529666734
How does anyone get addicted to alcohol?
I drink a couple weekends a month and always feel like shit after
How do you get hooked on something that makes you sick the next day and isn’t even that fun during the buzz

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The person that threatened me at drug/alcohol detox facility ended up getting hit by a ROCK that I used as a weapon. He started leaking and went to the hospital. ALPHA DRINKERS > AMPHETAMINE JUNKIES

>>529670954
Hit him so hard in the head he GOT A VAGINA GASH !!!!!!!

How much drinking is alcoholism?

>>529670928
>makes you sick the next day and isn’t even that fun during the buzz
Just force yourself to puke up, and then start drinking again

>>529670928
You must have a nigger brain to not understand it. Literally your frontal lobe of your brain must be relatively weak and not in control.

Anyone who lives with their analytical and logical part of their brain being in control all the time feels a great amount of liberation on alcohol. Its why people have consumed the shit for a million years or whatever. To be free from the pain of being intelligent, risk mitigating, anxious, concerned, worried etc.

>>529670928

They drink so often they get accustomed to feeling like shit during the day

>>529668590
>some of us can drink everyday 2-3 beers
>most cant

lmao shut up beaner

>>529670927
yeah just a bit does the trick
>texts and calls
fuck yeah, i started doing that last summer for a bit. never done it before then so not sure why it started. managing to stop it these days lol

>>529670928
honestly if im drinking regularly theres really no hangovers at all. maybe feel tired, but nothing else.

>>529670928
show tits

>>529667016
>>529666734

I havent had a drink since Thur. Is it worth staying sober alcoholic bros?

Ever since i turned 31 getting drunk is no longer fun. I just black out and forget all the promises I made to my girlfriend. I know in a few days i will he tempted to chug a pint of vodka.

Recently hit my limit.
I drink a fifth of vodka straight within 12 hours, 3/4 of it until I pass out, the rest to ease off the hangover when I wake.
Started to not be able to do that without serious side effects so now I'm soberish, only have a bottle of wine on social occasions

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>>529671216
true swede detected

>>529671572
>Is it worth staying sober alcoholic bros?
might as well. at least its something new to do for a bit.

Epstein was an alcohol drinker, didn't come across as a stoner at all.

>>529666734
How do you even socialize as an adult without alcohol?
>hey dude lets go bird watching and we can talk about our mortgages!!!
Yeah nah I'd rather be dead, thanks tho!

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I still drink one day week but it used to be as many as three or four and I wanted to cut it down. I put some sugar-free pop/soda drinks where I keep the beer and whenever I want to drink something but I'm trying to steer away from alcohol for once, I take one of the sugar-free cans. Somehow it works.

>>529671362
If you are not a sedentary, out of shape, sack of shit with no life force, drinking does not actually make you feel that bad the next day. I often feel better than usual the day after drinking. There is some kind of "afterglow" that makes me feel more optimistic and chipper than usual.

If I got really fucking wasted I will feel bad of course but even then, its kind of fun. Adding some difficulty to the drudgery of life.

>>529669983
Wait until all your health issues stack up. You'll wish you were dead.

>>529671803
Im three months sober. I trust I will learn this in time.
But I drank for 20 years and then became a drug addict in the last two years.
So Im totally socially inept sober. It will come in time hopefully.

>>529666734
No, for me it is stress
If I added alcoholism to that I would be kill

>>529666734
I have a problem where I go all week drinking only water, tea, and coffee, then comes the weekend and I will binge for at least 1 night, sometimes all Friday or Saturday too depending on what’s going on. My problem is once I have just one I cannot stop. Usually has been beer but I also like Old Fashions or seltzers.

>>529668590
Going out to bars used to seem like it was supposed to be fun, but now it seems like it's only for very outwardly charismatic and naturally charismatic people. I've been introduced to people I didn't know at bars before and I've never felt so socially rejected as meeting a group of people who are deliberately going to a public place to be as socially insulated as possible. Like, what is the fucking point? It made no sense because the venue wasn't even good or atmospheric. Having drinks at someone's house with buddies makes more sense than going to a subpar watering hole and white knuckling a table avoiding everyone else all night.

I genuinely think multiple (or if you're lucky, even one) years of social isolation during Covid made everyone retarded.

>>529671921
Good goy. Stay away from alchol. Try this marijuanna gummy instead. It will have you safely in your home watching cartoons and eating slop.

Truth is, the jew fears alcohol because he knows alcohol raises the power level of white men massively. Alcohol has been systematically purged from life and DUI laws get more and more harsh every single year because they absolutely know that alcohol would greatly be used to fuel any popular uprising from whites.

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>>529666734
I quit recently after going on a 2 week water fast. This reset my body and I am feeling great. Fasting will not only reset your brain but also give your digestive track and liver time to heal. A few frens online I know are huge alcoholics and I always urge them to quit. Anons please, it will catch up with you and the older you get, the worse it will become until it kills you.

Take some liver detox pills with milk thistle, fast if you can find the time, and stop eating goyslop and take care of your temple. You WILL feel better in time. May God bless you all struggling and give you the strength to quit.

>>529666734
Fat retarded subhuman pussy LMAAOOOOOOOOO get sepsis faggot

>>529666734
No, but my dad and two uncles did, my wife's dad just last week, his brother-in-law, and her mom's brother, also one of her second cousins. All dead by booze. My mom is a drunk and her husband(stepdad) too, he's currently dying of ass cancer.
>t. Don't drink

Damn, the bots and proxies jumped on this thread quickly to push the idea that it’s fine to drink and drive, and that it’s no big deal to end your life from this poison.

Yes. But I found a solution. This will be hard to believe but I found an actual solution. I was puking and shitting bile 3 times a day (from both wholes, six times a day total), but then I started an extremely aggressive workout regime. I am doing stronglifts 5x5's 3 times a week + 45 minute z2 cardio, and 3 times NW 5x5s. I am burning 1200-1500 calories a day now. I can still drink 1400cal of booze a day now and still feel totally great, and my holes are not oozing bile anymore either. Extreme exorcise fixes all.

>>529666734
>it’s the alcohol not life in globohomo jew clownworld

Alcohol and alcoholism are markers of depression and extreme demoralization in societies, especially when the collective is engaged in it. Quitting drinking doesn’t change the evil jewish ways, nor will it change them dragging your ass for the upcoming big ass wars.
If anything now is exactly the time to step the drinking up. Tap the sign

I like to drink from time to time, and when I do, I do it for two days. Helps ventin the anger and frustration. When I abscend for longer than 3 weeks, I get murderous thoughts. Alcohol is good, but not every single day

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>>529672531
>>529672580
Ok jews

>>529668585
>t. lying memeflag remoralization jew

Imagine telling someone scoring some roastie pussy is gonna cure their crippling depression and alcoholism. Globohomo jews like yourself have been waging psychological, social and economic warfare on us our entire lives.
Of course a lot of us drink, and it isn’t because of pussy

No. I rarely touch a drop. You know why? It’s garbage. It’s not fun. I used to drink at 16-17 years old I was bored of it by 18. It’s just garbage and once you have a drink you can’t do anything else. Drive, play vidya, shag. The only time its any good is at celebrations like weddings or on holiday when theres nothing else to do and there are other people getting drunk to have a laugh with. Otherwise normally i prefer a cup of tea.
Once you realise it’s not desirable its just garbage you will see how suggestible other people are
>hey goy, goy, you want this garbage goy.
Nope. Couldn’t care less if it all vanished forever.
There’s far better drugs and i can’t even be arsed taking those.

>>529668494
>this disease
kek why are you mutts such whiny over-dramatic bitches. it's not a fucking disease. you're weak or weak-willed that's why you resort to drinking to cope. some people are born tough and strong-willed, no matter what life throws them, they don't resort to drugs and can cope naturally. you obviously are nit one of those people, so stop lying to yourself, you're not some tough guy who's got a disease called alcoholism, you're just a weak person.

>>529672863
Why are you trying to say that extreme levels of exercise don't fix high levels of alcoholism? This is not a Jewish plot. It is a fact.

>>529672863
jews spent decades shilling drinking in music, culture, industry and business so they could make shekels. Now suddenly they need us sober. I wonder what has changed?
We understand they need a draft worthy population of White goyim for the wars to be willing to be shredded.
Nobody’s getting sober just so you guys can sacrifice us to replace us with shitskins. Fuck off

Nah, only drink when I do drugs which is rare these days. Good luck with your sobriety bro, that shit is poison.

>>529666734
Alcohol is so bad for you it detaches perception from your infinite awareness and allows all sorts of negative demons( literal demons) to enter and guide you're actions and decisions. Al cohol some kind of Arab mystical thing, also called 'spirits'. Don't drink it!!

>>529673060
This is globohomo jew remoralization stuff to get these goyim to sober up to be sacrificed. Nobody cares about what is actually healthy drinking socially here, none of that matters. What makes shekels or serves needs at any point in time is what matters.
For decades, jews needed to make shekels off of shilling booze to the American youth and men. Now, Globohomo’s needs have shifted because we’re at war.
Now they need sober goyim who are willing to be shredded for those evil jews.
Now is unironically the most retarded possible time to get sober.
Get sober when the world is relatively peaceful, not when they’re just going to be shipping a lot of us off to the meat grinder. Especially us White dudes

>>529666734
I just have 2 pints a week, usually on the same night, never more. My days of estrogen filled slop and hangovers is long over.

>>529673329
>t. Semite

>>529672582
ive found 2 days to be my limit too. after that the come down effects get very unpleasant. cant imagine how nasty the DTs can be and aim to nevre find out.

>>529673557
that makes me think, does beer even count as alcohol? because I only drink either beer or wine, and I hate vodka. I never mix the alcohols as well

>>529669983
Not only this but those same miserable cunts are ensuring they will never escape their situation by constantly drinking. Drinking alcohol non-socially is definitely a drug of despair.
>>529670928
Alcohol soothes a hangover and helps them sleep so they start drinking every day. Eventually they will suffer physical withdrawal symptoms so they self medicate with alcohol. Its kind of like going into credit card debt and paying it off by getting another credit card.

>>529666734
I've cut down to once a week. Been slowly tapering for a year and a half. Probably just stick to where I'm at currently. Moderation ftw.

>>529666734
Nah it just got boring to me so I’m taking a break until it feels fun again

>>529666734
yeah, every time I stop drinking I remember how hopeless everything is and go back to drinking.

>>529673459
Same here. For me its 3 16 once light beers but yeah. Just enough to really get my social inhibition down but not enough to give me hangover or have me fucking a ham beast.

>>529668494
>this disease
the disease is no self control and no passion in life. it has nothing to do with alcohol.

>>529672900
>imagine denying first principles of reality like mammals requiring sex to function properly because your DNA is too shit to find a hole to put your pathetic penis in so instead you spend your life coping with other losers online

>>529666734
If you're an alcoholic then you need to drink or you will die. Always remember that when you're trying to quit.

>>529672531
I just want to reiterate this point because I have basically never seen it in scientific studies nor social media but it is true: If you drink ~10 beer a day (10 equivalent busch lights), you can literally counteract them by burning 1300+ cal a day in exercise, and not only will you not really gain weight, but you will get stronger. People super careful can even lose weight. A lot of weight.

>>529667614
Just stop buying it. Just don't go to places to buy it. It's that fucking simple. No wonder you guys were btfo during Fall Gelb and Fall Rot.

>>529674003
lol you are retarded. I bet you also think ozempic is pointless and that fat people just lack willpower and a bunch of other retarded shit that I also believed when I was 12

>>529674053
That only applies if your slamming handles daily. A couple sizers through the week isn’t going to kill you lmao

>>529666734
Who wants to be able to drink a handle of Cuervo, and need it to feel a buzz? Beer does nothing for me until I take a refresher and stop drinking for ninety days

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>>529666734
No. I've moved on to harder shit. Boredom mostly.

Life on earth is the disease but drinking is not the solution!!!

>>529666734
i never even started lol

>>529666734
I've cut it off for Lent.
Been my sacrifice for that time of the year

>>529666734
No I don't really like alcohol. The only time I drank in the last year was the big sports ball day

>>529673763
id say that it does yeah. if i do a two day drink i'll have whatever i can get my hands on, although im staying off spirits now. those hit you pretty hard.

For me, my tolerance got so high that it became a chore to drink alcohol. 10-12 pints just to feel something. Almost an entire fifth of liquor to feel something. I don’t wanna sit there and drink for 2 hours straight just to acquire a buzz, that’s what truly made me quit.

>>529666734
I used weed to get off alcohol so now I'm dying to THC vapor

>>529667482
In 1 month it'll be 2 years for me, save a bunch of money but I think and dream about it all the time

>>529666734
I'm not drinking at all for 2026.

>>529667963
Switch to 0.0 beer.

It worked for me. I don't miss it.

It's been 4 years.

alcohol is expensive, how do you guys even afford enough to be drunk all day every day?

>>529674358
yeah, vodka sucks, I hate it. Wine is healthy, it has vitamins. And whiskey? Only on christmas

>>529674371
If you can do this, good for you. This is the 'proper' thing to do. Good for you. I cannot stop drinking. But I can spend 3 hours a day burning calories like a goy. I went from a retard barely capable of thought to an actual human recently, and I truly believe it was because I started burning thousands of calories a day.

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>>529674053

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Why I am so horny after drinking?

>>529667016
How much weight have you lost?

>>529674813
It wasn’t easy man, I drank every day for awhile. Good for you though man, keep it up.

>>529674639
sounds like a plan. spirits really do burn your liver up if you start chugging them.

>>529675203
Because I like you, have an extra tip. Drink water with squeezed lemon between the bears to minimize the negative effects, like potential hangover, depleted vitamins from your organism, and calories. A small glass is enough, but do it after each can of beer. It's a very old, forgotten slavic method

>>529675455
I'm not saying it's some magic elixir, but it does help greaty.

I literally can't get the motivation to do anything without a drink. Been drinking for 5 years straight and was even hospitalized for pancreatitis. I've dropped it for 1-3 month periods randomly and was basically a vegetable with a job for that period. Never really had motivation before the bottle anyway. One or two drinks and I'm ready for anything. I barely even feel anything from it and only start drinking after 5pm until 10pm. Never had a hangover in my life unfortunately. I've also never done anything particularly retarded or regretful after drinking too much and getting slammed. I just get sleepy and pass out
I've taken some nootropic that made me stop thinking about alcohol, but it was expensive and I forgot the name. I actually don't even like drinking at events or with friends because I usually have to drive and the cops here will pull you over for made up bullshit all the time.
Meth unironically helped me cut back the drinking and obviously gives a shitload of energy and some motivation, but the comedown makes me want to take several shots at once.
Tried practically everything to quit, including a hundred different drugs that felt way better than alcohol, but nothing makes me feel alright like alcohol does

I had been drinking every day and it was starting to become too much of a dead-end pattern. Cut back now so I'm only drinking occasional days, ideally only when I'm out of the house on special occasions.

It's helped, but I'm finding that 48h after drinking I have a wicked depressive episode. Previously I never noticed this because the next drinking session always started before the 48h was up.

>>529675455
>lemon water
>a very old, forgotten slavic method
right, because lemons used to grow like crazy throughout central and eastern Europe, especially on the Baltic sea shore.

Weed is 10x better than alcohol.
>gets a six pointed star vs. moon in captcha

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>>529675168
hey buddy

>>529668645
>weed and shrooms are illegal you fucking retard
Buy some Kanna extract powder. They've gotten a lot cheaper over the past year. Feels like a mild MDMA and music sounds otherworldly. Doesn't last very long and tolerance can go up pretty fast. The dosages are super low so a gram will last quite a while. Healing herbals sells a lot of varieties for a good price. I'd recommend FS-33 or whatever for beginners, and it's the cheapest

>>529666734
alzheimers if a fate worse than death, drinking for years shrinks your hippocampus and you end up like bruce willis, totally retarded thing to so to yourself voluntarily. The opposite is taking a chance and reaching out and growing your social network. It can be done at any age. Every drink you take is another minute of living hell in your future.

>>529670705
>people with obsessive compulsive disorder
>people with anxiety disorders
>people with emotional problems
>people with unfortunate genetics that make them get chemically addicted to alcohol super easily
That just sounds like me kek

>>529671175
When you get to the point where you need to drink to stop the severe shakes and when you have outright seizures when you go days without it, you are an alcoholic. 1L+ a day of hard will get you there

>>529674989
Because your body thinks you’re dying. Its a survival mechanism.

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>>529666734
Hey bud, I just got sober for the first time in 15 years . I’ve been drunk everyday off a sleeve of 99 proof vodka for the last five years . Body was in so much pain liver dying etc and to top it all my wife ran away to her parents.

Two to three days after I stopped drinking all my pains went away except with the withdrawal which suck bad and call kill you. Librium and benozos do a great job for withdrawls and rivia helps with the craving. I think I fall under the category of I enjoy drinking. Like i really enjoy it. I love driving drunk (zero duis) I love the burn of vodka, I love the look of a cool glass of beer perspiring. But I love my wife and my life more than alcohol. O and soda waters like topo chico really help

>>529666734
Lit Romney. Is that you? I thought you were taking care of your dying mother

>>529679183
>brown hand
>acting like a nigger
lmao

>>529666734
yep, am dying. did rehab and medical detox 7 years ago, now back on the sauce. am a fucking retard. one of my kids told me last week he wants me around to be be a granddad, that hurt.

thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiB9Fdj02fo&list=RDKiB9Fdj02fo&start_radio=1

>>529676600
>Implying lemons haven't been traded since
ancient times
irrelevant point desu

>>529679118
not really, it's more of a mechanical effect, alcohol widens blood vessels in your limbs and increases blood flow to the skin and this all affects also your penis
it's similar to some pre workouts where nitric oxide does the same thing

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Stop being a puff and get some down ya.

>>529666734
Was reading recently that Carl Jung was considered instrumental in the establishment of AA. Maybe have a read about that.
Essentially he said that alcohol is a cheap imitation of spirituality. So you need to replace that with a real spiritual awakening. Anyway read up on it.

>>529669983
Bitch. I drink because u don't give a fuck about taxes, society and status.
Can't fucking fanthom working just to support this gay system.

>>529673452
Speak for yourself you retarded uncultured mutt. Beer and breweries have always been in ethnic German hand, throughout the centuries, one of the only branches that never was even kikified in the slightest in our country. Drinking beer is the duty of every patriotic German and goes far back to our germanic ancestors thousands of years ago Tacitus wrote about. NOT drinking beer immediately identifies you as a kike or a muslim. Certainly a reason why you don't do it, faggot.

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>>529666734
Been drinking 6 liters of beer every week for ages now and I'm fine.
Dunno what's keeping me back from escalating.
Stay healthy.

>>529673452
Also, how fucking retarded are you to think that alcohol wasn't a large driving factor for moral and courage in both world wars. Read any diary of a front soldier, doesn't matter which side. They were absolutely pissed all of the time, also when going into combat. A constant flux of alcohol to the front lines was considered almost as important as food. Where do they even make retards like you?

>>529681296
oh..just read this. Guess Hans has a point.

>>529670928
>I drink a couple weekends a month and always feel like shit after
When you are heavily into it there is no hangovers. Also you would perfectly understand it if you just sped up the cycle. Like wake up at 3 am, gobble up brandy until 6 am, sleep until 7 am, take a quick bath, go to work, get out at 6 pm, start drinking brandy and beer by 7 pm, sleep at 11pm, wake up at 3 am and so forth, forever

Can't get erection when drunk. Not for me.

>>529668897
Yeah I got 3 left but im saving them I might go to the pet store later to pet some dogs

>>529667482
I haven't stopped drinking and i dearly miss it everyday.

>>529668398
That's not nearly enough

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>>529666734
stopped drinking a while ago and I was alot more fun drunk but also a bigger asshole with a bigger asshole cause it fucked up my shits
>be less of an ass hole anons

>>529674154
A couple of "sizers" a week isn't alcoholism

>>529667482
I stopped 5 years ago. Then decided to pick it up again. I can only get a couple down on the weekend and thats pretty much it. lol I wish I had the same desire...like women, its just not there anymore

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>>529673060
QUICK! Get to one of the most depressing places on earth and chat up a bunch of losers! That should help!

>>529669980
>liquid jew is circumcising my organs

>>529681665
Surely you meant six liters a day

>>529666734
19 yrs sober, have no desire to drink, but totally would for this current happening, the last 6 years of fuckery have left me mentally exhausted, wish I could shut it off temp

Friendly reminder that putting your body into a fasted or ketogenic state for 7 days eliminates 60% of the fat stored in and around your liver.

>>529679657
I forgot , you guys don’t have sunshine where you live. You should know even Danes and Germans get tan. Try going outside. My whole family is blonde blue eyed, I had blue then they turned grey as rates at green. Nigger paki

I can’t keep a sustained break going. I have incredibly painful lower back issues and I self medicate with alcohol. It’s the only thing that gives me reprieve from the constant agony.

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>>529668518
switch to weed or beers, your liver will thank you - the +40% ethanol with minimal buffer does a number on the system

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t. dry nearly 12 yrs, naltrexone and baclofen

>>529686158
>>529684831
>>529679183
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>>529671572
Henlo fellow drybros.
>>529670001
Muh missus quit last year - turned a miserable marriage into a less miserable marriage.

>AA - literally a room full of people all craving a drink talking about... drinking.

>>529686841
based dry bro, congrats man

836 days since last drink
you can do it
hitler wouldnt be proud of an aryan wasting away

t. 700ml - 1l of vodka a day (just taking nips out of the bottle in the freezer) & either a 4 pack (Hoegaarden) or 6 pack (Coopers Red label) for chasers.
I susally finished the night taking slugs of the missus' port before passing out.

>>529686929
>>529687028
One foot in front of the other m8s.

>>529686713
https://youtu.be/LkcXjholnGk

>>529670928
>How do you get hooked on something that makes you sick the next day
the second you learn being sick in the morning is a choice ... one or two shots and it's gone, and you're off.

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>>529687307
Ay peanuts and crisps with a few many fresh brews is a hard combo to top

One thing I will say is about 5 yrs into being dry muh memory went to absolute shit
- can't remember vocab, even simple shit.
Being tested for early onset dementia.

Luckily never had liver/kidney issues - drink diluted lemon juice and a big glass of water immediately after waking up.

>>529671572
>Ever since i turned 31 getting drunk is no longer fun
Look up one of those "am I an alcoholic"
quizzes and answer the questions honestly, then you decide if you've had enough.
Once the fun is gone, it only continues to get more painful.

>>529667016
When does fatty liver / cirrhosis clear up bros?

So update on taking the valerian root gor withdrawals. I’m only taking 1 pill every couple hours because it can actually put you inter delirium if you take yo much. So it seems to be just enough to take the edge off. Im going to the store to get a beer so I can also taper off tonight. My usual is about 8 drinks a day so I should inly experience minor withdrawals. Peace out bros. OH almost forgot. Eat some pork or some sunflower seeds for Thiamine!

>>529672008
>then became a drug addict in the last two years.
> Im totally socially inept sober
Check out NA. It can help you directly address all the things you mentioned, including the social awkwardness.

>>529687656
One week if you do this >>529686268 but to fully solve the problem I would assume at least 30-60 days of fasting/ketosis.

>>529672531
>But I found a solution.
Adjusting your lifestyle to accommodate an addiction is temporary, at best ... and far from a "solution".
You will discover this truth on your own, eventually.

>>529673060
>not a disease
>some people are born tough and strong-willed
most addicts are far tougher, can tolerate far more pain, and are far stronger willed than you'll ever be able to imagine.
You think it's through weakness they literally manage to drop everything that ever mattered to them to pursue addiction until the bitter ends, without pause, through the pain, misery, and suffering?
You have no idea how strong we're talking, how much pain some go through ... just to get the next one.
Weak willed, lol ... y'all who look at your watch and decide it's "time to stop having fun" while the bar still has liquor and the people selling drugs are still awake ... That's weak willed.
Noting gets in the way of an addict getting the next one.

>>529679926
>yep, am dying.
>wants grandpa around
Bro, if you're that fucking hardheaded, grab a new drug already and switch seats on the titanic. death from alcohol is literally one of the worst, slowest, and most painful ways to die
Try fucking heroin, you'll never think about wasting time drinking again

>>529682500
>you would perfectly understand it if you just sped up the cycle
>morning drinking
>night drinking
Ahhhh, my fathers good friend drank like this; dad nicknamed him "tide", because it goes in and comes out twice a day.
Most accurate nickname ever.
PS- he died in his early sixties, alcohol related. Great man, still miss him.

>>529666734
I had to quit drinking about a year ago because of microplastics clogging my liver ducts. A year in Nightmare Clown World, and it hasn't gotten any more tolerable.

>>529674126
Found the drunken fat ass. Yes fatty fats fat it is willpower and diet. I knew 2
brothers in their 50's, both fat as fuck. One changed his diet, lost a ton of weight and went off all meds. Other fatty lacks willpower and is in the hospital regularly. Tons of medical debt because he lacks self discipline

>>529686841
>AA - literally a room full of people all craving a drink talking about... drinking.
That's not exactly true. I can't remember what the AA promises are exactly, but NA has only one: that an addict, ANY addict, can stop using, LOSE THE DESIRE to use, and find a new way to live.
Emphasis on, "lose the desire to use"
...alcohol *is* a drug, so
Anyway, hang around and try for 90 days ... as they say in both, If you aren't happy, your misery will gladly be refunded; most people, however, lose the desire to continue after 90 days (do a 90-in-90, it will change your life).

Drunks are just as faggoty as stoners but with added womanly emotions from constant neurotoxin damage.

"I miss it bros..."

GAY.

>>529687663
>going to the store to get a beer so I can also taper off tonight
Bro, if you actually think you drank enough for withdrawls to be a thing, go to a hospital and LET THEM put you into a medical detox
A guy I was in with died from alcohol withdrawals his second night

>>529687663
>OH almost forgot. Eat some pork or some sunflower seeds for Thiamine!
Don't be giving people advice on shit you've never done successfully before ... bro, honestly wtf do you think you know about stopping while you are on your way to the store for a beer?
Go to a meeting before you kill yourself taking your own brilliant advice.

>>529666734
hey hey hey hey
smoke weed ever day

i haven't had a drop of alcohol in years after discovering edibles.

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>>529666734
>I'm taking a month off
see you in 5 days, faggot

>>529689422
I have valerian root which is a natural benzo. I’m good. I did this in October. I checked on a chart about withdrawals and 8 drinks a day is only gonna give you minor withdrawals.

i just quit recently two weeks ago. ended up NEET failure at 30, starting drinking beer daily to cope like a fool. turned into drinking a 6pk of tallboys everyday for almost two years now. nothing really crazy, but i gained 40lb and feel a lot dumber.
so far the only thing i've noticed in the last few weeks is my sleep is awful, i wake up drenched in sweat and have to change shirts.
very glad i never switched to the liquor demon to get a stronger fix. who knows how bad it would have gotten.

>>529673060
It's absolutely not a disease, and all these 12 step programs try to turn people into victims who only God can cure. I'm a religious man but they're obviously indoctrination programs targeting people at their weakest moment.

>>529686281
>swarthoids are brown
mhm

>>529689951
30 years old is still young in the grand scheme of things, it’s gonna work out anon. I know people who are 50-70 years old who have no idea what the fuck they’re doing with their life. It’s all a matter of perspective.

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>>529689951
Here this will help. Its a natural benzo.

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>>529689951
>i wake up drenched in sweat and have to change shirts.
why would you sleep with a shirt on?
anyways, at 2 weeks you're over the withdrawals. you're probably just fat or out of shape or something

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>>529669157
I favor the death penalty for dui.

>>529666734
Lets do it. Im with you!!!

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>>529670954
you are a badass

>>529667855
forgot pic?

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>>529690628
>I favor the death penalty for dui.

>>529690849
Yea I just realized that. This>>529690320

>>529666734
yes, the russians are dying of alcoholism everyday. it's the most common cause of death there and it's the most alcoholic country in the world.

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>>529690854
i took 1/4 gummy and i'm all outa gummys

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Does anyone else also struggle with doing cocaine every time they drink?

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>>529690562
i am indeed fat and out of shape. gonna work on that next.

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>>529666734
Same. Had some homemade ranch dip I was trying to get rid of so I got some chips. I thought why not have a beer or 3. Now I feel sick.

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>>529666734
not planning to stop, i enjoy brewing mine too much.

>>529691434
What in the motherfuck is that

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>>529666734
Not yet, but getting there!

>>529668326
Yes weed helps. I can't believe there are some boomers still against weed giggles when the alternatives are cancer or beating your wife.

>>529691652
Soda Bread and a Spinach Ranch sauce

>>529691652
it fucks your mother

Been drinking heavily daily for 26 years, minimum of 6-8 litres of euro beer each day, now it's double that and a bottle of vodka every day. Lost my qt3.14 gf because of it, thousands of lost revenue from being too fucked to get up and go to work. My teeth are destroyed. Alcohol is the worst, but socially acceptable and government sponsored. Be wary of the liquid Jew frens, she's a cunt

>>529690913
ty anon

>>529691976
Merci beaucoup Franconon

>>529667237
They only get worse when you get older and your body isn't able to deal with it as well. When I was in my teens and early 20s, I could go out drinking for 6 hours and only get 4-5 hours sleep, shower and feel okay enough to work the next day. But when you get into your late 30s, two day hangovers start to become a thing when you binge and I just said fuck that.

It's just a bad habit that seems to creep up on you. You have to ask yourself: "what do you miss about it?" - people say "the effect" but that's actually really when you're just tipsy and not drunk. When you get drunk your experience gets so dulled you can't possibly say it was awesome, you make bad decisions and worse, you can end up simply blacking out and not remembering even what the fuck you did. When my boss was making jokes calling it "time travel" I just realised it was fucking retarded. Like not just damaging yourself but to the point where you don't even remember what the fuck you were doing. It might as well not have happened. And then the hangovers you get after that, yeah not great.

>>529691212
>Does anyone else also struggle with doing cocaine every time they drink?
Lol
Look up the "am I an addict" pamphlet (NA) and answer the questions as honestly as you can
You aren't alone ... this is quite normal addict behavior lol

>>529690458
is this comic just some weird unappealing humor or is this actually supposed to describe a real type of person? I can't imagine a person could be as handicapped as the guy in the comic and still have the faculties to understand/appreciate the comic

>>529688693
lol. did the heroin thing back in the day. I fucking hate dealing with the street so am currently drinking,

>>529666734
No

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>>529692156
Ie would only use it for minor withdrawals so about an 8 10 drinks a day. Go tk the hospital otherwise. You’ll need some valium or xanax.

my kind of thread
lots of good posts anons, thanks for sharing
right now i would like to be sober, but
i derive too much satisfaction from substances
i guess if i got sober and worked out all the time and ate good,
i would automatically get a gf
but i just cant bring myself to stop using because
it seems to be the only thing i look forward to
after a brutal day of work, drinking and smoking just feels so good
as i age i realize i have less ability to recover
and perform
but i also recognize how helpful substances have been for me
in terms of helping me cope and make it this far
it's an interesting dilemma, for sure.
cheers, brothers
for tonight, i drink
tomorrow might be the day i sober up
but maybe not

3 year break for me it was getting pretty gay time traveling all the time

>>529692367
>lol. did the heroin thing back in the day.
nana247.org has round the clock meetings
Not as good as in person but you will be in like company ... alcohol is a drug, after all
I used to put it under my pillow and listen falling asleep and while I slept trying to get it by osmosis. Took a long time but eventually got my first day and then started stringing them together
Only you know when you've had enough PMS (pain, misery, and suffering)

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I stopped drinking after NYE cause I'm prediabetic with fatty liver and high cholesterol and alcohol just seemed like it was a wrench in the gears of my health goals to lose weight and get my numbers in the normal range. I was never an alcoholic in the sense of needing a drink every day to function, but once the weekend rolled around I'd be in the mood to binge until I got extremely drunk (8~12 drinks in one night) and it felt like a reset for the week, but also kind of reset my motivation to exercise and take better care of myself. Not to mention, it was exacerbating my depression.

I'm two months clean, exercising daily, hydrating more, getting better sleep, lost 10 lbs, 3 belt sizes, and I'm gonna keep going and see where my labs are at in a few months. I do plan on drinking again at some point, but not on a once-a-week frequency, just a few times a year for special occasions because I do enjoy pressing the reset button on my consciousness from time to time.

>>529692202
When I really think about it, all my good times drinking were about the people I was drinking with and not the drinks themselves, although they may have helped. If I wanted to get that back I'd need to see my friends as often as I did when I was in college - the booze doesn't help.

>>529666734
https://youtu.be/vK7l55ZOVIc?si=GZVkpvDgJOgapJqZ

Some inspiration. Alcohol fucks people up all around the world. It killed Alexander the Great. It ranks up there with PCP and meth as far as damage to one's surroundings and self. Did you know that alcohol inhibits the body's ability to metabolize both B and D vitamins, turning you into a depressed retard? Look up "wet brain", "Korsakoff's syndrome", "Wernicke's encephalopathy". The families who own the alcohol companies are degenerate kikes, see the Bronfman/NXIVM scandal. Shit is positively insidious man. Good on you.

>>529692695
>right now i would like to be sober
>can't bring myself to because reasons
You sound like the rest of us.
Start here, answer as honestly as you are able: https://www.na.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/AN3107-IP-7-English-Anglicized.pdf
There is a solution.

>>529692746
Once you're off of it, it's shocking how little of it you can drink and suddenly find yourself gaining back one of those belt sizes. I hate to ditch such a long-standing tradition for humanity, but maybe it is time for better drugs.

>>529693043
Sorry forgot to type. This helped me a lot.

>>529692912
i personally feel "addict" is a category error
since overt or obvious "addictions" like smoking weed or drinking
are chastised within society
but covert "addictions" like avoidance for example
fly under the radar and these people are never referred to as "addict"
i have been to many AA and NA meetings throughout my life
and like church, it's full of the lowest vibrational people ever
people who just drag you down to their level and make you feel bad
just interacting with them and all their weird control games
i just have had too many bad experiences with meetings and church groups
to be able to utilize them

>>529692839
>all my good times drinking were about the people I was drinking with and not the drinks themselves
This is much of the reasons in-person meetings work. Your fellow drunks/addicts are usually actually decent, fun loving people ... and there are meetings daily, most days multiple available daily.
It's as much a social club as a recovery program. It's social recovery. We get to replace the drinking with real activities with real people working towards a common goal, and the sky is the limit.

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>>529668590
Alcohol can be extremly healthy if used correctly. if anything it made me healthier, but i treat it as medicine. with herbs and plants and stuff.

>>529691976
I basically have to exhaust my disposable income in order to get sober. All manner of mental gymnastics will I perform in order to rationalize my indulgence such as 'rewarding' myself for a brief refrain. But it's really not THAT bad. On a typical evening I'll grab a four pack of La Fin Du Monde tall cans and maybe a mickey or two-six of cheap rye whiskey which I mix with fresh ground coffee, percolated of course. Combined with a pack of American Spirit cigarettes, I'm just tickled! Sheer bliss. And hey, at least I'm not doing hard drugs unless you consider modern strains of marijuana hard. I'm pushing fifty and still wake-up with a stiff pecker. Minding my diet is a challenge, and sometimes I forego eating properly, but my diet is generally good and healthy. Gonna see if I can't stay sober this week, but I've grown tired of beating myself up over being a fun-loving drunken Scotsman. Just embrace the spiritedness and keep yourself in check with a bit of exercise, chores, and even holding down a job. Praise the lord and love thine neighbour. Have a drink... you've earned it anon.

>>529667482
Don’t tell me that bro, I’m only 1 year in

I’m drinking every day now. Whiskey straight from the bottle. Not getting drunk but definitely dulled all day. It’s been like this for 2 months. I mix in beer too. Definitely playing with fire but I feel like I have a handle on it. I’ve gained weight but never have hangovers (I get horrendous hangovers when I drink to even a light drunkness) so I think I’m alright. Life got very stressful and I’ve given up on gym and diet protocols. Not sure where I’m at. But I am much more fun and less snippy when I have some drinks and it’s keeping things moving for now. I plan to stop once all this fucking snow finally melts

>>529693207
HAIL
CHEERS

>>529693125
>it's full of the lowest vibrational people ever
people who just drag you down to their level and make you feel bad
just interacting with them and all their weird control games
This is such BS it's not even funny
There are no games, it's one addict helping another and you get out what you put in
Show up with a desire to improve your life and and ask for help, and you'll meet a very different experience.
Show up like you know something about being clean while you're still using and/or think you are somehow better or different than everyone else doing the exact same shit you are and what do you know, you won't make too many friends.

>>529693297
Omg bro the snow is driving me fucking nuts. This winter sucked dick.

I only drink on things like family gathering just because I have to wait to go back to uni in order to smoke weed with my friends

>>529693365
no, not true
i remember one time a lady shared and i tried expressing empathy to her
and she started SCREAMING at me that she "wasnt a victim"
i was so rattled i left, shaking

>>529693207
>All manner of mental gymnastics will I perform in order to rationalize my indulgence
Go find the free PDF of the NA basic text
Give yourself a break and read it, you have nothing to lose
You might be surprised what you learn
Hint:you sound like every other addict on the planet; we call it "terminal uniqueness", because eventually, it'll kill you.
You will discover this on your own in the book.

>>529689223
I've been to a few AA meetings anon, enough to know the serenity prayer.
2 things I always disagreed to - 1 was the higher power thing: I got in my car and drove there. There was no divine intervention to make me want to go.
The other as stated - I'm not saying don't talk about it at all but to me sitting around regaling strangers about the good and bad times we had drinking when to a person all any of us wants is a fucking drink seems counter intuitive.
There is some evidence that AA prevents recidivism or falling off the wagon but there's also evidence it doesn't - I'd say placebo at best.

>>529686841
>t. dry nearly 12 yrs, naltrexone and baclofen
But thank you for the encouragement.

>>529693520
>we
cult

>>529693416
Get some vitamin D. It has helped lift the cloud ever so slightly but I’ve only been taking it steady for a week so hopefully it gets better. I fucking hate winter and I live in MN with too many ties to move my family somewhere else. Gotta cope somehow

>>529666734
To (you) and all other anons who want to stop - Allen Carr's Easyway is the easy way. Re-wires your thinking, to the point where you actually look forward to never drinking again.

>>529666734
Six years sober. Don't even miss it anymore. wish I had stopped sooner.

>>529692242
That's not what I asked you fucking nigger.

>>529693460
That was just her crippling Vit D deficiency and chronic lack of REM sleep talking anon. Go back there and fuck her

>>529666734
be careful you dont die when you stop drinking, it happens.

>>529693630
Im taking 10,000 iu

>>529689223
Also looking at your responses - NA is quite different to AA in that anons are dealing with a physical addiction as well as a psychological addiction.
Alcoholism is primarily a psychological addiction.
>inb4 aldehyde shit
Yes there are physical symptoms to the addiction and yes if you have a high tolerance ignoring them can be harmful, even fatal but compared to going cold turkey on heroin as an eg. it's virtually nothing.

>>529692521
unfortunately ive been through it before. ambulance had scoop me up from cardiac arrest then to a detox facility. have noticed my drinking has been more than I'd like lately but not to medical intervention stages yet. I work a high stress/dangerous job on graveyard shift and its all too easy to drink some vodka and pass out once I get home. ive been keeping it under control but looking for natural things just to get me through a weekend I can take off work and 'have a cold' so it can be an occasional thing and not every day to fall asleep. I appreciate the advice.

>>529693207
Fuck you leaf, I was at least trying to add something semi decent to the thread, no reason to take the piss out of me

>>529693460
>not true
How are you going to tell me it's not true? I have sat in thousands of meetings over the past few years.
There's a reason the old timers will tell you to "take the cotton out of your ears, and put it in your mouth ... and if we need information on getting high, well ask you"
It's a program of sharing experience, strength, and hope (from shared experiences), not opinions, sympathy, etc
It's best to listen for at least the first few meetings and get the lay of the land
Maybe you didn't figure this out (it took me a while), but literally just about every other person in that room was a regular and knows each other and sees each other weekly or multiple times weekly and they all know you are a newcomer.
Your attitude and willingness will dictate how the room responds.
nana247.org
There's one going on right now
Try being honest about what's going on with you, for real, for a change ... and see what happens
No one wants to hear anyone talk in riddles and metaphors, the tv does enough of that for all of us

>>529693998
Not going to metabolize it if you're drinking daily, fair warning.

>>529666734
Stopping cold turkey
Alcohol can kill you retard

>>529693585
>cult
yes, a "cult" that costs nothing, asks for nothing, and that you can leave at any time ... oh, and saves actual lives
Real cult-like

>>529693769
I just posted that

>>529666734
Fuck you and your fake slide thread faggot go to reddit and cry your pathetic life away. Herbs and spices nigger.

>>529693824
What part of "you aren't alone" didn't answer your question, nyucka?

>>529694169
nope, im good, dont want to talk to people who just want to control me
or use me in their own leverage games over others
if i get sober i will do it ALONE
like everything else i do
i dont need fake friends doing pseudo religious shit to assuage their fake egos

>>529668645
You'd be surprised to discover how hard it is to get weed to destroy your health.

>>529693851
not to anyone on 4chan. it's an anime site for children, lol.

>>529693365
Honestly once you get a healthy respect for how much alcohol can fuck up your life, if you are an exceptionally high IQ person you should leave that community. I say this because the mental anguish you suffer as a high IQ person will make you want to use. The best thing I could do to abate my addiction was to get true isolation for a few months at least.

>>529694036
>Alcoholism is primarily a psychological addiction.
Alcoholism is literally the most dangerous physical addiction of them all; only it, and Benzos (which are pretty much alcohol in pill form) will kill you.
Shakes = physical withdrawal

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I need help, bros...

12 years and I've lost almost all hope... My belly hurts but I can't stop drinking. i'm drunk right now.
I fear I'll die this year.

>>529668326
Weed is super cheap now. Trading one addiction for another isnt progress

>>529694521
Go to the hospital dumb fuck

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>>529694349
>people who just want to control me
Nobody wants to control you. Do whatever you want.
The program exists for those who WANT help. That's obviously not you, and that's OK.
If you ever decide you want to stop, and find you are unable ... you can remember what was shared here.

The Valerian root is def helping. Dare I sat that I actually feel good lol? Crazy. I just ate some trail mox to get some thiamine. Idk I feel fine rn.

>>529694521
You literally need to be put into a benzo coma for a couple days. Stop now and you'll die. Many have done this. You need to heal your brain and body. It's not too late, but soon it will be. Your skin will turn yellow, you liver will shut down, and you'll die sick and miserable. You can do it anon. I'd drive you to the hospital myself if I was a smelly brown macaco.

>>529694717
never said i didnt "want help"
what i said was churches and meetings are full of batshit insane people
who attack their fellow man for no reason
therefore, solitude is preferred

>>529694521
ask someone in the healthcare system for help anon. youre asking us but you need to direct that to someone who can.

>>529694521
>I need help, bros...
sign in to an online meeting and listen in
, see if you hear anything that speaks to you
There are thousands going on right now.

>>529666734
Why not smoke weed instead?
Way less harmful compared to alcohol, being high is so much better than being drunk too.

>>529695025
why not do both?

>>529695025
I do

>>529695025
>Why not smoke weed instead?
Yeah, and only use coke at night, only drink on weekends ... only do heroin at home, and only socially smoke crack
None of these "solutions" work for real addicts. If you are the kind Of person who can "just smoke weed" and it doesn't destroy your life ... congrats, you aren't an addict.
...you seriously don't think anyone else thought of that before?

>>529666734
I quit alcohol cause of the side effects, same with speed and ketamine but benzos feel impossible to get off cause they relieve pain rather than cause nausea, skin problems or internal issues, Pfizer is straight evil, I wish I never touched a xanax bar and did kratom instead

Don't try and quit cold turkey as GABA drugs make opiate withdrawals look like a cakewalk, get to a detox centre or at least try a DIY taper if detox is out of your budget

>>529694036
>compared to going cold turkey on heroin as an eg. it's virtually nothing
From a risk-of-death standpoint, it is quitting heroin that is virtually nothing, and quitting alcohol cold-turkey is a real threat.

>>529695245
i was promoted to management while using weed and drinking nightly