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>Men learn early not to value what women have to say, and to treat them with default annoyance. This tendency is especially noticeable in long-term relationships, once a man feels he no longer has to impress the woman to earn or keep her affection.

>If you've ever apologized to a man for taking too long to tell a story, rushed through an important topic, or watched a dude zone out and roll his eyes while you talk, you might think the problem is you. Maybe you're just annoying or talk too much. Maybe it's your emotional and crazy woman hormones causing you to ask for too much.

>But negative treatment from men is almost never actually personal. It's political, because we live in a culture where men are taught to devalue women.

>One of the most significant ways men do this with their partners is by approaching their partners from a default position of annoyance. Everything she says is annoying. Everything she asks is too much. Every request is a sign that she's nagging.

>Isn't it weird how we stigmatize women for "nagging" men (read: asking their partners to do things they refuse to do), but never men for refusing to listen to their partners? Baked into the very notion of the nag is the idea that women who want anything at all are annoying and unreasonable.

>In patriarchy, women aren't allowed to want things, let alone need them. Treating women like they are annoying is a way to reinforce this hierarchy and continuously devalue us.

>The problem is not you, and you do not have to accept this bullshit.
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It's further proof men are incapable of love. It's just misidentified.
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>>84040467
Men don't like listening to women because when women talk men realize that women are nothing more but retarded children forever stuck at the intellectual level of a 12 year old
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>>84040467
The solution is beatings. Women are less annoying if beaten on a regular and consistent basis.
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>>84040467
I'll happily let you tell all your stories if you stop nagging about chores.

Honestly this article feels deeply solipsistic, since it has been shown that men are significantly worse at multitasking, which is why for a man being told to do a chore can be incredibly disorienting.
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I love women and hang on their every word with reverence and rush to affirm everything they say. I'm pussy free btw, if it matters.
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>>84040490
Stop infantilizing yourself jesus christ if that were true you'd be too stupid to even drive a fucking car
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Can't relate, I am the one who rolls my eyes when my man talks too much, and every single person I am close with catches my each word like a piece of gold.


>>84040478
> men discuss competing and games, women discuss caring and real people
Not the flex you think it is.
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>>84040497
No I'm turbo autistic now let me program in peace and take care of the chores yourself. Also driving a car is actually a good example of a task you need to hyperfocus on and where nagging on the side is outright dangerious.
>>84040478
>thomas
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>>84040508
Part of driving is to be able to respond to new stimuli in a moment's notice hun
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>>84040516
But none of those new stimuli you should care about are random nagging. It's much easier to mentally group related stimuli like the oil levels in a car and driving a car. Now here's the thing, you can bitch and whine all you want to me, but I'm just explaining why many men react so negatively to nagging.
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>>84040467
Disregarding women isnt learned behavior, its inherent in men, and its completely right to disregard them.
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>>84040537
Another proof why moids are all trash
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>>84040467
>Woman who never once realized that if women all turned into their male versions same height and all that it wouldn't take more than an hour for all of them to be called FAGGOT by men and women who haven't turned
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>>84040525
Nagging is just somebody delegating shit to you because you are too retarded to budget your time properly
I can tell my bf "'let's clean the house" and he will spend 55 minutes organizing a bookshelf instead of cleaning the floors, decluttering tables, doing laundry, and washing dishes. Don't wanna be delegated then be more proactive
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men need to shut the fuck up
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>>84040549
You love it
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>>84040467
The part of it may be true, as we are taught to consider women annoying. It was part of reason why my relationship failed. But on other hand I have the same reaction to males, like my dad when I was younger or boss/coworkers going on about stupid shit. But I am getting paid to listen to my boss and GTFO after 8 hours
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>>84040557
Again, the thread started because some woman wrote an article whining about men not liking her nagging. You are in the position of weakness asking men to change their behavior, and you haven't given very good reasons to do that.
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>>84040499
>> men discuss competing and games, women discuss caring and real people
meaning men are better for leading nations while women are best at being housewives
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>>84040467
Provide evidence and not some random theory that validates your feelings that are completely different from any reality

>Men are taught to devalue women
In what context?

>Men approach their partners with a default position of annoyance
Source?

>Isn't it weird how we stigmatize women for nagging men
No we don't.

>In patriarchy women aren't allowed to want things

This is literal slop. Ignore it
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>>84040559
isnt that character literally a tranny?
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>>84040557
>OCD bitch cunt complains about her man not taking interest in irrelevant tasks that aren't immediate necessity instead of just doing said tasks herself
Men don't bother getting you bitches to become competent enough with cars and fixing shit because it's the exact same bullshit you're pulling with this guy the difference is that you're too stupid to realize to just do it and enjoy your roll.
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>>84040537
I will disregard anyone who has nothing important to say but whining about their feelings

While I respect everyones feelings, if your expectation is that I use my "man power' or whatever god given gifts I apparently have to save a girl, she can go fuck herself. No, I'm not a supporter of patriarchy - women need to man up, become more confident and stop relying on men
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Women are just emotional support pets that we have sex with and they have somehow convinced themselves we find them interesting beyond emotional support and sex. Most women are on so many psychiatric drugs that they cant even do the emotional part of it anymore. Women do the same shit for men too, they just view us as an aesthetic that blends into her curated social media profiles
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>>84040597
>psychiatric drugs that they cant even do the emotional part
Also kills their sex drive so they don't meet your sexual needs either. Fucking useless
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>>84040577
Depending how you view it. If you are not part of leading elite or have teal chance to climb to some function, those topics are just a hobby, equivalent to bitches talking about hauseplants or some shit. The most you get sucked in to become a pawn for some side.

The whole educated, socially active men is a modern cope, when plebs were taught to concern themselves with stuff formerly limited to nobility, but without any power or direct interest the latter had.
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>>84040467
Ok, now write the same article but reverse the genders. It becomes even more biblically accurate.
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>>84040557
>My bitchy behavior is someone elses fault

You incredible idiot
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>>84040557
And I can tell my gf to clean the house and she changes cat litter, then leaves the bag on the floor. She vacuums occasionally, but if it comes to anything that actually involves effort it's always me doing it, every single time.

Maybe just don't date shit people. I've dated people who want to be equal contributors and Ive dated women who just want to freeload until I get sick of them. Maybe this isn't a patriarchy thing, maybe it's a "grow a pair, stop being a fucking idiot and dating retards who refuse to be a part of your life"

>But omg he's going to hurt me if I tell him
No he's not. He's really not. You're just assuming he will because of endless feminist propaganda. Try it, guarantee he won't do shit because he doesn't even want to and knows he will go to prison if he does
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Sub-9 "men":
>Everything is wrong with you in every way. ur stupid, evil and boring and disrespesct womyn

Chad:
>Yes, I am a dumb bitch tee hee. PLEASE get me pregnant daddy
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>>84040602
Wouldnt surprise me if all the psychiatric drugs women take is one of the main reasons behind the orgasm stat where like 80 percent of women dont have orgasms during sex. Mix that shit in with birth control pills which fucks with their hormones even more and what youre left with is a large portion of women who act like extremely rude gay men. I just realized that the other day, women arent really feminine anymore, they act like gay fucking men
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>>84040467
>constantly talk about stupid boring unimportant topics
>people don't want to talk to you therefore men bad
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>>84040467
Another psyop to convince me that women are apologetic and insecure hopeless romantics I have NEVER seen this behavior in real life it is as if you told me that frogs are struggling to fly home this winter
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>>84040633
No, these people analyse their experience through Marxist historiographical analysis. They interpret material conditions, and find psychological, rational and scientific reasons as to why that is the case.

But they don't do due diligence, they don't look at a problem holistically, understand their enemies, and this is why they fail. They fail to understand what fascists think because they understand fascists through their own Marxist lens, not understanding that fascists care about a grand narrative of the world that evidence is independent of - fascists are consistently creating the future while Marxists are responding to it.

I am a Marxist, a feminist, and I'm genuinely at the point of joining the fascist because everyone is either blinkered as hell or just a fucking autist
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>>84040467
what if women are just annoying af
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>>84040467
Many men are like this. Its pathetic. I would never date a man whose personality I did not like.
So happy that my husband is perfect, I love him.
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>>84040642
Women don't have orgasms during sex because they half the time aren't into the men they're fucking, they just basically get dragged along with it. It's a common feeling you have when you're desired by the opposite sex
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>>84040478
the other thing is most women are annoying and boring because they don't have to get good at charisma and humor.

men HAVE to do thst to fit in with other men and be able to talk to women. Women constantly want to be entertained and you can't even just say hey to them.

Do you know what women have to do to fit in with other women? agree with everything and listen and be nice.

>tldr women are retarded because they aren't forced to rizzmaxx like men
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>>84040577
Men lead/dominated nations are all horrible shitholes so your argument falls fast
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>>84040668
>All of them
Nigger what
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>>84040478
Fr, fuck being around them or working with them is so fucking tiring. I dont wanna deal with their childish drama.
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>>84040642
Nope, women orgasm just fine with female partners. Sex with men just sucks
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>>84040668
women led peoples never made it past the neolithic
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>>84040668
matriarchy never advanced passed the stone age. patriarchy split the atom and send man to the moon
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>>84040677
Countries where women have no place in running the country and its all male: deepst darkest africa, somalia, afghanistan, iran middle east etc

Yes, male lead societies are shitholes. Ancient greece was like modern day afghanistan, pedo shit and slavery. I'm sure the current age afghan scholars also think very highly of themselves, just like greek scholars did

Men
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>>84040668
Oh its this stupid bitch again. You seem obsessed with us.
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>>84040478
no wonder guys fall in love with the rare instance a real woman is aligned to male interests.
usually it's just trannies.
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>>84040698
Only a pampered white woman who lives in the safest era in human history could say something so shallow and ignorant kek.
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>>84040683
>>84040697
Yet only the countries that have females taking part in polititcs are the only countries worth living in
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>>84040667
this has nothing to do with charisma. men just talk more about the wider world and politics while women talk about chad and whoring in clubs. remember women being surprised that men think about roman empire every day?
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>>84040699
I have been here longer than you, cuck
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>>84040712
Thats not a brag you chronically online dumbfuck loser
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>>84040698
>Mentions Afghanistan
>Ignores china, France, US, UK, Russia, ottoman Empire, Roman empire, German Empire
Okay nigger
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>>84040707
All the institutions in countries where women can take part in government were build by men. Civilization in general is a male invention, monogamy is a central part of civilization and females hate monogamy.
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>>84040709
>women being surprised that men think about roman empire every day?
Its surprising that men are so obsessed with pederasty and slavery cultures
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>>84040702
kek yes, its so sad that trannies are only "women" with interesting hobbies and interests
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If trannies werent such degenerate losers I would prefer them over women but they both suck.
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>>84040719
Typical male response when he has nothing left to argue
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>>84040729
the thing is that men think about history all the time while women just think what happens today. thats one of the biggest differences between the sexes
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Is there a CC radfemcel in this thread rn? I will simp for you m'lady if so. you can call me useless scrote trash while i grovel and apologize for my gender and do your bidding. i know my place and its to lead to male self extinction. it has been an honor my queen.
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>>84040723
>Ignores china, France, US, UK, Russia, ottoman Empire, Roman empire, German Empire
In the times when these were all male lead, they were all horrible shitholes filled with pedophilia, slavery and child workers

... So try again
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>>84040751
You need to put a bullet in your rotten brain.
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>>84040751
I wish all men were unironically like this. I wish more were abused as little boys like my bf was
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>>84040736
Its ok to be gay, no need for these mental gymnastics. Male poopyhole is waiting for you
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>>84040739
Projecting retarded foid.
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>>84040759
For me it wasn't abuse, it was neglect from my parents and having an amazing older sister I look up to
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>>84040747
Normie men don't think about history at all, they think of sports and other stupid stuff. If you want a woman who is into history etc, try dating a women with higher education
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>>84040753
>Pedophilia, slavery and child workers
Uh, most of these countries abolished these practices, without women
Try again
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>>84040756
Are you the black fembot from the other thread? I haven't given up on you. I know we can make it work someday. Love will bring us together.
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>>84040467
This is missing the point, it's got nothing to do with the fact you're a woman and everything to do with the fact that two people are NOT meant to spend THAT much time around each other. It would be the same if it was two men. The whole concept of inmate relationships and marriage is retarded, no one could stand being around someone constantly for that long without beginning to find them insufferable.
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>>84040668
>>84040707
Those countries are collapsing because they gave females rights since females are intrinsically anti-civilization. Also it's funny how you said shithole considering you seethed at Trump for saying shithole.
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>>84040774
>Normie men don't think about history at all,
they do, thats why that tik tok trend was so popular. normie men talk about sports but they can also talk about history and politics
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truth is most women are shallow and stupid. You need to have control over women or they act out and get emotional and retarded. My girlfriend is like that but she listens to me because im not a pussy and I dont put up with any bullshit.
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>>84040795
Idk normie men have a very shallow understanding of politics thats why they are conservative so often. I would not count close the boarders/tranny hate talk as the same as actual discussion about politics
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>>84040702
>usually it's just trannies.
Truth, whenever I see a female looking profile talk in depth about history, politics, ideology, etc. it's always a tranny.
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>>84040781
My husband I spend 12h per day together and have done so for 13 years. When you love and respect a person you want to spend time with them
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>>84040820
you think men have shallow understanding of politics for not voting for liberals?
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>>84040825
Maybe you are looking for a male partner, there are lots of women into those topics, politcs are important to most women in a word where people try to constantly weaken bodily autonomy of women
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>>84040820
>very shallow understanding of politics thats why they are conservative
you are retarded and can not consider the possibility that you are extremely wrong and uninformed about politics
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>>84040467
>Treating women like they are annoying is a way to reinforce this hierarchy and continuously devalue us.
Women are annoying though
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>>84040780
nta but what other thread are you talking about?
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>>84040826
>My husband I spend 12h per day together and have done so for 13 years
maybe you're a rare case of low nagging
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>>84040842
There is no point of being a conservative if you care about people and their wellbeing. Conservatism leads to bleak outcomes, if people support it they must be either very rich or very ignorant
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>>84040863
Conservatives are in touch with reality unlike leftists who try and include every living thing in their delusional utopia.
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>>84040844
>there are lots of women into those topics
Not anywhere close to men. Go to any nerdy subreddit about history or ideologies for example and they are always 99% male. As seen in >>84040478 women are simply less interested in such subjects.
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>>84040844
Link an example of a woman genuinely interested in male topics. One.
>inb4 buwhuhuh I w-wasnt expecting to be held to my claim!!!
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>>84040863
You want to import millions of Muslims in my country which is against my interests.
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>>84040876
Die for Israel
desu
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>>84040467
>rushed through an important topic
There are no important topics in 99% of woman stories, for them the point of talking is to talk, not to communicate some information to another person.
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>>84040863
>Conservatism leads to bleak outcomes, if people support it they must be either very rich or very ignorant
very ironic low key
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>>84040919
>to communicate some information to another person.
This. Men are built differently. We are waiting and searching for the important part because we are problem solvers. But women just want to share feelings which is useless. Feelings do not build houses or fix problems.
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>>84040467
How did you find this article exactly?
>>84040474
God damn OP do you really need this thread to function?

To the rest of you, know that you are being played and they are laughing at you for being in this thread
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>>84040947
i am op and that first reply isnt me
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>>84041059
Why even reply to me at all then?
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>>84041069
because you thought that reply was me you dumb tranny
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>>84040467
I can talk and listen well, more like women don't find me attractive or rich/handyman enough.
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>>84040937
Men don't even build houses or fix problems. Men sit on computer and play low iq shooters and then rage about women
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>>84040937
>We are waiting and searching for the important part because we are problem solvers

The important part is a delusion. We do talk about things that could be consider bigger, but its usually unrelated to us or we have no influence over it (politics, investment, markets -except if you are rich/powerfull enough, sports, technical stuff - when you cant actually buy it like expensive cars, technology etc.). That is no problem solving, thats a hobby. Im realizing how too serious I took that shit when I was younger, tho is just (autistic?) interest or something to talk or argue with mates to have have fun or pass time.
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>>84040882
Idk, go to tiktok, search "politics" search "videogames", search "history"
These are not male topics at all
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>>84041223
>Men don't even build houses
I always knew the houses just grow on their own
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>>84040881
>As seen in >>84040478 # women are simply less interested in such subjects.
What an amazing study, great source /sarcasm
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>>84041235
>tiktok
lmao
i hope you are joking
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>>84041237
I did not know that men do it for free as a fun hobby
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>>84041250
Its a female dominated space. Just say if you don't actually want people to give you examples
Tumblr is another good space if you wish to see females talking about these topics
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>>84041155
>caring about identity on /r9k/
>the board that bans you for self promotion
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>>84041266
blabbering in front of a camera for 30 seconds is not the same as writing paragraphs on a subject
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>>84041252
nor do women have sex for free as a fun hobby
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all that is largely bullshit

boys are initially taught to be turbosimp white knight for the m'ladies

then they find out all that just give foids the ick and who they actually want is an abusechad
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>>84041448
>Noo they are doing it in a way that I don't do, noo its wrong

Go to tumblr then if you prefer written form, if you like video essays, try youtube
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>>84040467
I only mentally "roll my eyes" if it's my stepmom because everything she complains about is entirely trite, only serves to give me more work, and assign blame to everyone but herself.
I am usually a very forgiving person. I do not even paint all women like this. But I do understand the woman-hate when the woman in question acts out every stereotype that is mocked to the letter. At that point I can only regard them as a very stupid human animal.
Additionally some of the things she asks me to do are outright risky. I actively refuse to put the salt and pepper "in place" because "in place" is right under the switch for the garbage disposal, which if I were to reach for, would be dripped upon by dirty dishwater. I have no qualms with extra cleaning work, I have a problem when I (or one of the less reliable men in the house) moves to turn on the disposal without rinsing or moving the salt and pepper away first.
She will actively gaslight other members of the house as well. She veers off onto a completely different topic or immediately starts trying to shift some off perception of blame when none of us are even antagonizing them, then saying some incredibly petty last words, the most recent incident not even relevant to what they were discussing.
She is mentally incapable, either because of the pain, or because of the pain medication. She is completely fried upstairs. She doesn't think about how other people have to use the things she insists on, she just tells us to do it and doesn't even get to see it for several days since she's holed up in her room like an old witch that comes every winter.
We do not have company to visit often, I do not know who she is doing it for when she isn't even around to appreciate it. I'm also extremely certain she doesn't appreciate life in general since the last time we did thanksgiving she chose to bitch about how she doesn't have anything to be grateful for.
She deserves everything awful that has happened to her. 100%.
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>>84040467
>Men learn early not to value what women have to say
Good, this is now and has never not been the correct thing to do
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>>84041457
this, nice guy ends up an incel while bully always has sex
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>>84040467
Lot of bullshit but
>Everything she says is annoying. Everything she asks is too much. Every request is a sign that she's nagging.
Normalfags really think like this then marry her and wonder where their life went wrong.
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>>84040549
>It's your fault for reacting to me the only way that keeps your sanity

I hate women so much, it's actually fucking insane how women can't see it. I mean I get it, does a dog actually know they're a dog? But it's so EXHAUSTING how every fucking problem that women create, gets passed onto men. I wish I was gay, because God. I grew up loving women and believing in equality and all that shit but 20+ years on this earth, once already learned that women are overgrown fucking toddlers.
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>>84040467
>these people are collective annoyed by my behavior
>this couldn't POSSIBLY be my fault
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>>84042000
there is a reason why every civilization severely limited female rights
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>>84042282
Yes, the reason is that if women have no rights, men have access to slavery, pedophilia and child labor
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>>84040467
If you hang on her every word she will drive you to the depths of insanity. Men only do this to not suffer a lobotomy irl. It's a protection mechanism.

God just encourage a woman to speak one time and she will talk your ear off about the most frivolous unimportant shit. You can't give them advice or try to find a solution to their made up problems so it's mansplaining. A lot of women are also on a lower base iq level, which is apparent in their aggression and tit for tat inaccurate ad homs. Flipping talking points to them is the epitome of intelligence. They pull the same insults from a pool of other women they saw on social media. They're stupid.
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>>84042363
>>if women have no rights, men have access to slavery, pedophilia and child labor
trvthnvke. Most of patriarchy is just a thin facade for undesirable men to get access to young bodies with underdeveloped brains.
inb4 some chud educates us with his personal preference for anime characters
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>>84042432
But somehow men NEVER do any of this.
Question: how would you feel right now if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning?
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>>84042363
the reason is that if women get rights civilization collapses
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>>84042459
Please provide a source that doesn't have a conflict of interest, i.e. anything but a well-off man
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>>84042452
A lot of zoomers are low iq and act like women but there's still a lot of men that have interesting stuff to say because they have to think before they speak, or they get mocked. Also men learn from conversation. Women ramble. And you are definitely one of the annoying ones, that's not to say you're not a good person. But I wouldn't want to be around that because stupidity is bad for my mental health. And a lot of women are stupid I'm sorry.
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>>84042452
Also I don't eat breakfast, and I'm not willing to play into your upcoming strawman or whatever.
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>>84042522
It's not really strawmanning when (You)r actual opinion has the quality of dried plant husks
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>>84040467
>women only pick chads who can get any woman he wants
>women wonder why he is annoyed by her

hoe about she picks her looksmatch who would feel lucky she is even talking to her?
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>>84040490
please women are horrible multi taskers
they cant even walk and talk while avoiding oncoming people
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>>84040493
Simp fagget
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So are you paid to keep these threads going?
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>>84040655
you would see the behaviour if you were good looking lmao.
i saw the behaviour when i was younger
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in real life women are annoying af, it's not because men are the problem, it's a fact that women are annoying, women recognize it but through a strawman in which they blame men for being annoyed. Jesus christ women and accountability are universes apart.
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>>84042816
Women are beautiful angels on this earth. Nature equipped them with very little to defend themselves and pitted them against violent male rape apes like us, but they endure against all odds because their resilient kind spirit can never be defeated and now is finally their time, it is the century of the woman. They are ALL my queens and i want each and every one of them to feel special and beautiful because they are.
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>>84040467
Women use way too many words to try and get a simple point across, i feel bad for anyone whose situation requires they sit there and listen to some dumbass hoe just blah blah blah without being able to speak up and say "get to the point" to which the hoe will reply something like "i was just going to but you're interupting-" and then just walk off without letting her finish, saying over your shoulder "next time maybe say the last part first and just leave out the other shit if you want to be heard"
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>>84042822
They cut off the payment when 4chan first went down, but they are hoping if they keep up the good work they'll get paid again
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The male brain involuntarily stops receiving info once it registers a voice as being female. Dont blame us, blame evolution and your stupid bullshit problems that are incredibly minor and would only require you to think for 3 seconds to figure it out instead of yapping your head off for no damn reason. Get good at solving problems.
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>>84042984
> I killed my husband.
> I killed my abusive narcissist husband.

women need to add context to make themselves look sane a reasonable.
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>>84040490
>since it has been shown that men are significantly worse at multitasking
Tell this to RTS players
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>>84042984
You just want to hear x when the point is x y and z because you are lazy and low effort.
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My girlfriend has a masters, runs a small bakery, but she's so fucking stupid and boring. I put up with her because she's got good pussy and I love her but to me it's insane how stupid people can accomplish so much. Meanwhile I'm 32 and struggling to finish my engineering degree, and I don't work.
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>>84042437
>trvthnvke
Just type normally, whats wrong with you
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>>84043668
uh oh! looks like somebody got niggernuked
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>>84040467
Society tends to see criticism of women are hatred. Hatred and criticism are not the same thing, it shows how flawed women are and how nature is unable to provide the necessary companionship a man requires. The only solution is genetic engineering. The human genome has to be patched cuz this shit is just lame. Women are too old world.
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>>84040478
Its crazy how many women are part of the female npc hivemind, no different interests, no different thoughts, no nothing.
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>>84040478
>all that brainpower
>just jewish workers and pawns anyway

moids lol
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>>84040723
> empire
All empires are inherently antihuman crap. They only exist to give some retards absolutely unchecked power. Men were a mistake
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Smart men understand that taking a woman seriously is a death sentence when you live in a world where you have no real power over her anymore.

So the default stance is to treat her like an ongoing joke you sometimes cum inside of.
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>>84040937
Actually they do.
Feelings are the problem so they need to be solved for the problem to be fixed. If we strip down emotional aspects of life from it, then well...Wars, arguing, suffering, all just wouldn't exist. Mediating conflicting interest is the key problem of any society. People only build houses when they are healthy, feel valued and treated fairly.
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>>84044000
Wars and suffering aren't caused by emotions. Once could argue emotions are a form of suffering but that only follows after. Not before.
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>>84043976
Without empires there is literally no reason to exist and your entire luxurious lifestyle would be impossible. lol
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>>84043845
feminism was invented by jews lmao
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When my wife rambles at me, I play with her tits, which helps keep my monkey brain entertained so I can listen to her.
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>>84043666
a master is what? black social studies? women are stupid but they can focus because they dont have adhd like men dom men are hunters and explorers we are action oriented, academia is made for docile women
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>>84043995
this is so hard to do when you are not attractive and women just reject you left and right. only a chad who has the approval of women by default could pull this off.
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>>84044133
modern education system is made for women
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>>84040467
>If you've ever apologized to a man for taking too long to tell a story, rushed through an important topic, or watched a dude zone out and roll his eyes while you talk,

Bullshit. This article is just divisive psyop from a mentally ill foid. Men who hate it when women do that hate it even more when other men do that. If anything, men tolerate extra bullshit from women because they want to sleep with them.
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>>84044042
> without empires there us no reason to exist
Founds Chad's submissive cuckie boy. Go enlist, only then you will have reason to live, apparently.

>>84044033
Wars are caused by emotions. Look at all the wars in humanity, they are always caused by either of fence, paranoia or posturing. It is literally Never about resources lmao And even if it was, wanting resources is also an emotion.
You must have very low IQ if you are unable to make such simple connection. Creatures without emotions are already sublime, they have no reason to fight over anything
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>>84040467
>In patriarchy, women aren't allowed to want things, let alone need them
I don't think I want a gf anymore. It's just too exhausting mentally to picture a child trapped inside the body of a grown adult. It's hard to imagine someone who expects you bring her little treats or who won't bother to learn how to check her own oil levels in her car as an equal. You are not my equal if you are a physical or mental drain on me. I expect more competence from women, but they're not willing to rise to my expectations.
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>>84040474
Good . You clearly do not deserve it.
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>>84044819
They are only good for fucking that is it.
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>>84044845
They are not even good for that.
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>>84040467
Women hate men that respect them
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>>84040467
Have you considered the possibility that maybe you're just annoying?
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>>84042452
Women talk just to soothe themselves. The content of the words doesn't matter. Men care about facts and figures. That's why we find your talking so annoying. You need female friends to gossip with. The breakfast question is not even relevant here, and I have no idea why you brought it up.
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>>84040474
I agree. Men are incapable of loving women as they are not people nor animals but something less.
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>>84041223
Men literally built the house you're living in and the computer/phone you're shitposting from.
>>84041225
Politics absolutely matters. If your country is headed toward turmoil and you need to bail, you have to stay appraised of that information to protect your family. I've known people who escaped wartorn countries. Do you think they treated politics like sports? No, it was life or death.
>>84044000
Incredibly dumb take. You really think the Russia-Ukriane war would be resolved by Putin and Zelensky getting together over brunch and discussing their feelings? No. They need to discuss and negotiate power, contracts, offensives, peace offerings, etc. That shit is all real and material and has nothing to do with feelings. You're equating emotional volatility with drive to do things. Feeling hurt because your friend said something passive aggressive to you is not the same as wanting build a house because you need shelter to not die of exposure.
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>>84040559
>men need to shut the fuck up
top comment on r/cucksandproud
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>>84040582
Sorta?
The character's genitals got mangled in an accident as a child so they didn't go through the puberty normally and stayed androgynous. This allows for the murder mystery to have the "the male/female twin servants are actually the same person" plot twist because they made two separate identities for themselves for male and female which allows for said twist and character arc of being split between mutliple lives they built up.
Original gender is never stated but since they act as either sex depending on the situation then I guess they technically would be a tranny?
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Women consistently go for the most hypermasculine trad chads, who are more likely to not care about women except as a trophy to win. And women consistently reject and demonize the unmasculine unconfident soft nice guys who would actually like them as a person

And yet women keep whining about this rather than accepting that it's the consequence of their own preferences, or instead changing their preferences. Women will cling to their preferences until the very end, and just whine and whine and whine that there's sometimes consequences to those choices
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>>84040467
>If you've ever apologized to a man for taking too long to tell a story, rushed through an important topic, or watched a dude zone out and roll his eyes while you talk, you might think the problem is you.
It is.
>But negative treatment from men is almost never actually personal. It's political, because we live in a culture where men are taught to devalue women.
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No, you're just bad at storytelling. Otherwise, he'd be able to not just zone out.
>One of the most significant ways men do this with their partners is by approaching their partners from a default position of annoyance.
Because there's always gonna be a problem.
>Everything she says is annoying. Everything she asks is too much. Every request is a sign that she's nagging.
It's called Pavlonian conditioning. If you always acompany talking with some form of unpleasant stimulation, you're conditioning him to not like talking.

>Isn't it weird how we stigmatize women for "nagging" men (read: asking their partners to do things they refuse to do), but never men for refusing to listen to their partners?
Not really. A man already tolerates it to begin with by forcing himself to listen, even though he's annoyed. Emotions aren't exactly a choice.

>Baked into the very notion of the nag is the idea that women who want anything at all are annoying and unreasonable.
I mean, I nag people sometimes, and I'm a man. But it's a temporary thing. I actually stop asking when I get what I want from the person.

>In patriarchy, women aren't allowed to want things, let alone need them. Treating women like they are annoying is a way to reinforce this hierarchy and continuously devalue us.
So, I should just "care" more about whatever stuff I don't care about, so I don't reinforce this higharchy?

>The problem is not you, and you do not have to accept this bullshit.
I mean, it's not really a problem in the first place. People nag. It's how problems get fixed. If anything, men should nag more often, so it's fair.
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>>84040467
The reality is a lot of women simply are boring. I don't mean they like boring things. I mean they just don't have strong passions in general. For example I think it's cool if a woman is really into any typical female thing like romance or fashion, or even astrology. As long as she's actually passionate and into it that's good. I like those things too.
But a lot of women don't even meet that criteria. A lot of women are simply uninteresting in a shallow way. They're total normies to put it simply. They just mindless care about the current thing but only dip a finger into it. They just don't ever go deep into anything and yeah that's boring.
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>>84046589
And of course it's important to note the reason women are this way is simply because they don't have to be interesting to get all of society's attention and benefit. Dumb men will bend over backwards for the most boring girl so yeah why should they try.
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>>84042437
Undesirable men got fuck all. They were worked to death or used as cannon fodder you stupid bitch.
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>>84046589
>>84046596
>But a lot of women don't even meet that criteria. A lot of women are simply uninteresting in a shallow way. They're total normies to put it simply. They just mindless care about the current thing but only dip a finger into it.
This phenomenon is due to female nature. Women are reltionship-oriented. Men are world-oriented. When men hear about astrology, we get out starmaps and start plotting Venus's precession in August to figure out when is the optimal time to harvest our crops. Women talk about the slop horoscope they read in the newspaper. Realize this fact and accept it; don't go to war with it. One of the most amazing feelings in the world is describing your passion in great detail to an attentive woman. She won't necessarily even care about the subject matter, but she'll admire your passion and ability/drive to learn. The problem lies in the assumption of egalitarianism. Women and men are not the same.

If you meet the rare woman who's as autistically obsessed with astrology or politics or weightlifting as you are, something probably went wrong in her life. Or she dated a guy who indoctrinated her into his passions and she is just sharing then secondhand with you.
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>>84043845
>all of those decades of pandering and opportunities to prove themselves
>still spreads her ass cheeks online for money

Ah.. women
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>>84046836
This is so true, we are not the same.
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>>84046136
>Men care about facts and figures.
Men like to think so but they hate it when facts prove that men are the shit gender that does 95% of all crimes and wars and rape. Male hobbies are sports and porn and they think this makes them interesting, men are slaves to their genitals. Absolutely pathetic failure of a gender

Men are illogical and objectively stupid. Middle east is what happens when men get to do what they wish
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>>84046327
Lots of women settle down with a loser man and if living with him turns out shit these women divorce him.

But losers just whine whine and whine about it cause men are illogical and they expext women to treat them like there was some sexual attraction there
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>>84046136
only Republicans adopt new information through an "is this true" filter t. adopts anti-vax flat earth stance based on some Facebook posts and flat earth videos
high T doesn't even mean anything real online nowadays except for liking fat on women and going bald
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Fisher's principle is going to be the bottleneck to civilization moving beyond the increasingly dysgenic gender known as male. 50/50 gender ratio is not ideal for anything except for passing genes to your children, but by any other measure, it is not ideal. We need to genetically modify ourselves to skew the gender ratio female. I think 70 females to 30 males is a good ratio. Society would be more peaceful, women that want to be left alone could be and have to deal with men far less, and there would be less bitter lonely men since it would be easier for them to find partners. There would be less crime, less violence, less war. The future is female dominated. Anyone can see that.
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>>84040467
Divide and conquer tactics thread on /r9k/? No way, not seen one of those for minutes.
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>>84047724
High-T men are independent thinkers. They eat healthy, go to the gym, get plenty of sleep and sunlight, and have minimal stress. They minimize exposure to endocrine-disrupting chemicals and highly curate both the media they consume and the people they interact with in order to avoid delusion and toxicity. They spend their free time reading and learning instead of mindlessly consuming slop. When you do those things, your mind clears up and your ability to think logically improves noticeably. If you've ever been in a position of powerlessness, like at the mercy of a tyrannical boss or police officer, you will notice the reverse: you start rationalizing in order to placate them because you do not have the freedom to defy them, both materially and ideologically.

Not every Republican is high-T, but leftism is inherently low-T. It's all about feelings and "inclusion" and intentionally denying reality for the sake of "social justice." Being truly right-wing in this day-and-age requires an almost pathological defiance against mainstream culture and consensus-filtered opinions (AKA the socially enforced opinions of the NPCs).
>>84047682
You are mad at men because of the pervasive man-hating neo-feminist culture you're mired in, and maybe because you personally were let down by the men in your life. You're ignoring the fact that men are responsible for 99% of philosophy and the construction of the roads, plumbing, electric grid, and communication systems you take for granted on a daily basis. The logical conclusion of your worldview is the weakening of the men around you (your friends, family, and community) to the point where they cannot protect you from foreign aggressors. You depend on men capable of violence to protect you from other men capable of violence. The capacity for violence is not inherently evil; it can be used for good or evil.
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>>84040467
Wrong. Men are taught to overvalue women at a young age.
Without constant social pressures, they learn to assign appropriate value to women by listening to them and the things they say.

Which is to say, they don't respect women because women are retarded and annoying
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>>84047682
you hate it when facts prove that browns are massively overrepresented in crime
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>>84040474
>incapable of love
For you

Sorry foid but unless you get a middle schooler, a man is going to have already been burned by a bitch as smart as you, and won't fall for it again.

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