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>be member in a suicide forum
>a lot of the members that successfully died are young women
>there's often evidence of it: recordings, obituaries or news articles later so it actually happened
Weird... I thought being a woman is easy mode dream life.
Inb4 men die more often from suicide: Yes, because they have biologically more courage and ability to commit violence than women, whereas women are more shy/scared. This leads men to pick brutal methods like a shotgun to the face which is a lot less survivable than a pill overdose.
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I've been on this forums and women really only are here to complain.
It's all in the stats, young women are by far the least likely group to off themselves. In fact the older a woman is the more chance she kills herself. The age group that end their own life the most are men between 45 to 65 years old and that's true in pretty much all studies across various countries
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>>84046009
>they have biologically more courage and ability to commit violence
Sorry for being born evil, foid
>>84046029
>MGTOW
MSTOW*
All roads lead to hammerhand
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Women spend their lives being bullied by other women, then they go online and say "it's the patriarchy!!". Like sure Jessica when you shamed your coworker for putting extra effort and putting on lipstick you sure did that because the patriarchy told you to.
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>>84046050
I don't care about random facts coming out of your ass. Like I've said I've been on this forums and talked to a lot of women. Women go there when they are in their depressive state, which often happens in their early 20s. It's so common they're like clones. All studies show that women under 30 are the least likely to off themselves. You gotta accept that harsh truth. The male to female sex ratio says it all. It's men between 45 and 65 who dies by suicide the most
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>>84046050
Suicide is in itself a modern psy-op.
Don't get confused. Most women are still lesser animals.
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>>84046009
i am aware of the sort of person i ought to have been and i know how its gone wrong. for me its hard to ask someone to love me when i feel like i would have been a beautiful thing but im now spoiled. i dont feel happy when good things happen. experiencing life itself is just hollow.
being suicidal feels like having an awful cough in my lungs and i try to breathe shallow so i dont trigger it, to live quietly and do nothing, but its just waiting. i dont want to die, i want to be happy, but death isnt something i have to bear for a lifetime, this is.
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>>84046064
I'm not the anon, but if you use "virgin" or "celibate" as an offense, you shouldn't be here. You can always go to a place without these evil monsters called virgin men.
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>>84046107
>But incels are the N*GG*RS of virgins
You know that isn't what incel means. It just means that you are an involuntary celibate. The subsequent reinterpretation (virgin misogynist) was something made by normies to mock people they don't like (as they have always done, calling people nerds/losers/virgins). You're helping their agenda when you use their vocabulary.
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>>84046139
People don't call well-behaved, kind virgin men or women incels. Incel is used for men who spew hatred because they are frustrated they don't get laid. Just how black people are fine people, but the ones that act up violently or bruteish will be called the slur.
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>>84046150
Damn I'm female and want to complain about my fee fees before I go, why the gatekeeping? How else am I supposed to get inspo for sui Pinterest board
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>>84046170
Men are biologically more violent and less inhibited than women, YOU FUCKING LOW IQ APE. Look at any sport that takes extreme fearlessness like base jumping, 99% of people who do this for fun are men. Even the amygdala (a brain region involved in threat detection) shows sex-linked differences. It is easier for a man to do something scary because your brains are literally made to face threats, whereas women evolved to nurture babies and be giant pussies. Shut the fuck up.
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>>84046178
Okay then nothing is stopping them from overdosing on pills they know will actually kill them or from the two seconds of research it takes to find that information out.
But no, they'll just swallow their entire bottle of antidepressants or fucking Benadryl and pretend like it was a real "attempt" when they damn well know it wasn't actually going to kill them because they don't really want to die. If they did they'd use the fucking shotgun.
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>>84046202
It's quite difficult to die from over the counter stuff, the body is surprisingly resilient. And they want to die without pain or brain damage, because it's scary. Either way, men have the advantage of built in testosterone courage that allows for brutal and quick executions.
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>>84046009
>I thought being a woman is easy mode dream life.
women are not getting the delusion degree of attention they expect and if they somehow actually do its not all they expected it to be and so they resort to the ultimate form of attention seeking a woman can do
also its not suicide as that would imply we consider them alive. they are mindless leeches. their sole existence is to siphon off the lives, minds, purposes of others and make it about themselves so they craft this artificial life they parade about. they cannot lose what they never had.
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>>84046239
Yeah, she documented the whole process further. She was also on a video call with someone to document her dying process and if the stuff she took was painful or not, as back then it was quite rarely used still and people were unsure.
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>>84046253
Also this style of going step by step through your suicide isn't uncommon in this board, men do it too. Just not with dresses, for the most part. Although there's a lot of transpeople there too for obvious reasons.
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I don't care. Women have it too good in western society.
>uwu, mommy~
Cringe.
I saw this as probably the biggest normie here. I did everything. I Accomplished all the normie status points and goals. I am STILL angry about the first 23 years of my life.
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>>84046218
I've been lurking and posting on 4chan for over 15 years, anon.
In my time here I've partaken in every emotion in the spectrum, vitriolic and generous, and everything in-between and beyond. Now I try mostly to be kind.
I hope anybody who is at their lowest can find the light inside themselves to pull themselves out.
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>>84046009
I'm sure their lives were so very hard.
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>>84046309
>showing us one last panty shot before she leaves
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>>84046009
My retarded failure burden sister has "attempted" suicide 5 times.
Anytime anyone tries to help her out she starts hysterically crying about how kids are being killed in Gaza or some other stupid shit. Women's suicide is a joke
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>tfw no harem of girls who wanted to kill themselves but found new purpose in serving your cock
Asanagi gets it
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>>84046009
they do live in easy mode, the thing is that they are simply weaker than men and even the smallest issues could seem life shattering to them
if a woman here went through the average robot's week they would off themselves too
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>>84046416
You two seem to be on the same wave length. Good idea...
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Suicide isn't really a good measure of suffering or quality/ease of life. It's a measure of someone's tolerance for suffering. Most people that kill themselves probably have a lot more to live for than the average robot, their expectations for life are just calibrated different relative to disenfranchised forgotten NEETs and outcasts. Suicide is for normalfags.
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There is nothing anybody can say to convince this shit is not attention-seeking.
Dude, go out into the real world. Women are more physically attractive and desired. People are less nervous around women. Them being less expendable than man and put on a pedestal makes sense because they literally BIRTH life.
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>>84046635
Yeah, sperm are cheap, eggs are not. It's basic biology. I also believe men have the ability to bring themselves out of the pit of despair, where women need help.
But it's okay for men to want help. If anybody here wants help, I'll try my best right now ITT.
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>be 32 year old failson neet
>couldnt kill myself because mom would be sad
>mom dies of a rando heart attack at 72
>still too pussy to kill myself
maybe once i blow the inheritance on coke and whores
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>>84046202
a shotgun isn't ideal for a headshot and you don't want to shoot yourself in the chest or god forbid the lower abdomen where it will take forever to bleed out. most suicide attempts are cries for attention rather than true attempts. that isn't a bad thing. you want them to get help instead of die and not use lethal methods. and "pills that will actually kill them" is surprisingly a fairly small window. what you really want to do is start mixing things with alcohol to cause toxicity, and benadryl will make you hallucinate anyway. the problem here is that >>84046216 it really is, and even sleeping pills (and most medication because this is intentional you know) will generally just sedate you rather than cause you to die. your best bet is to aspirate in your own vomit which, if you cause enough nausea and liver damage, will occur when you are half-conscious and realizing from multiple organ failure that you are in incredible pain and do not want to die. ask me how i know. the alternative is to suffocate yourself when you are unconscious by ensuring that when your respiration slows you have something artificially stopping it.
but again, you don't want people to actually die. you want them to be so scared they turn their lives around from the near death experience. you're also not going to find instructions on the internet for obvious reasons, and i am not giving you a how-to guide here, just stating the obvious. yes, if someone wanted finality they would consider a gun or a bomb. but classic method lists compared the lethality vs pain index vs potential for fuckups here and the average of how long it takes to die. bombing is incredibly painful, overdoses have a high rate of failure and complications, and if you aim that gun wrong you are blowing off your jaw, not out your brains. there is no "good" suicide method. this is the ultimate blackpill for doomers because it makes you feel trapped until you loop back around to making the most of what life you have.
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>>84046543
men may be more attracted but they partner less. the best reproductive strategy is for a woman to be impregnated by a high value male, perhaps one that has been vetted by other women she trusts which can encompass them being impregnated by him as well, and him to provide for them materially in some way as they raise their young communally. alternatively he can just impregnate them and run to maximize his reproductive success but he screws over his young by not ensuring their potential development into adulthood and reduces another female prospect because she's not going to fuck him again after that nor will any other woman she speaks to. harems work as long as there are not more or less equal amounts of men and women which results in excess men (and low value women, whom are allowed to serve as servants/slaves or reproduce with the excess males to keep them occupied) who then have to be purged in wars so they don't keep uprooting the system to claim 'their' rightful woman. they can also just start killing each other, perhaps at the behest of the Ultimate Chad, The One to Rule Them All, but doing so destabilizes the entire system by fostering chaos. the males serve as cannon fodder and the females breeding stock as each respective Chad Warlord goes to war against the other to increase the size of his fiefdom and potential wives, claiming the women as spoils of the war and killing the males and children.
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>>84047655
the french 'whoring yourself out is bad' vs the russian 'whoring yourself out is good'. perhaps written because both were transgressive positions in their respective cultures at the time. or not, i didn't read them.
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>>84046009
Some would call it a tragedy
I call it a good start
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>>84047674
In Crime and Punishment there's a destitute family and its adult daughter is its only breadwinner and she stops her entire family from starving to death by selling her body even though she is noble and pious.
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>>84046445
No one cares retard
>>84046472
So brave of you to apologize on mens behalf. Faggot
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She wanted to hold on to the railing, but it was to late.
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interesting. i prefer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Breadwinner_(2017_film).
>>84047716
there is punctuation in that post. here's some more: ; ` ' " , . } ] | / ! ? ~ - _ - :/ ( ._.) ^_^~ :^) ;3c :D
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>>84046309
Thats a tranny. I hate trannies who coopt lolita fashion. So good riddance.
Lolita is for girls only.
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>>84046107
yes you're like the other girls jessica, no matter how many slurs you say to try and fit in
>>84046139
she is one of them like the various other shes who larp here, she is agenda incarnate
>>84046139
incel is an involuntary celibate, nothing else, if you subscribe to the reinvented definition used by tiktokers and tumblr feminists don't make it people here's problems
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>>84046009
People don't commit suicide because their life is hard. They do it when life is too easy, when there is no struggle, no goals or no meaning. Suicide rates spike at 45-65 years old when people retire. Paradise is unendurable, but people keep themselves so busy they never realize it, until much later in life, if they ever figure it out at all. It's the reason rich people are not always able to find happiness. Thinking that people only kill themselves because they have it hard is a weird misapprehension of reality.
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>>84046009
>because they have biologically more courage and ability to commit violence than women, whereas women are more shy/scared
I suggest you go to college to learn how to make better arguments.
Biological courage? More ability to commit violence? I think you mean men on average have more strength. Women are more shy/scared? I'm not sure timidity is highly correlated with being a women. Maybe you mean less testosterone?
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>>84046107
if you are involuntary celibate, you are an incel too anon.
>>84047405
>you don't want people to actually die.
after you have just given a step by step method of how someone can kill themselves. I hate you anon, you're probably one of those people who thinks they are a really good person when they are in fact the stark opposite.
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>wrote a cutesy letter
>bought an urn
>cleaned her room
>picked a dress
>put on some makeup
>fasted
bruh
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>>84047862
Nah it was an ugly Japanese woman with BPD. Her boyfriend had just broken up with her and she was literally doing it for fucking attention, and the fact BPD whores literally can't make sound decisions to save their lives
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>>84047768
Her video was not posted, but some other cases were shared. In her case the person who was in voice chat with her (this is relatively common: people will have a suicide "sitter" on the side who documents the process) made a whole thread documenting how she died, because at the time people were afraid and unsure if the method worked. It's some method using a salt you can buy relatively easy, but obviously not as painless as a professional medicine or poison.
>>84048276
No, she is dead. Her post is over 6 years old.
>>84048663
I didn't shame anyone. Triggered much? Or did you just shame yourself?
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>>84046159
>people don't call other people who have the same opinion as them incels
Yeah, that's the point. If you if you want to express an opinion different from the dominant one, you will be called an incel. For example, if I say "women have more legal rights than men in the west" this will be considered an incel quote even if there's no hate or intention to harm anyone in the speech. It's just pure ad hominem.
>Incel is used for men who spew hatred because they are frustrated they don't get laid
One can use a hammer as a weapon, it won't change the real purpose of the tool. I know what people usually mean when they use this word, but it doesn't change the fact that
1 - they're using it the wrony way;
2 - they use it to everyone that has a different opinion from them
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>incel is an involuntary celibate, nothing else
Trvke.
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>>84048909
>if I say "women have more legal rights than men in the west" this will be considered an incel quote
Most people would not call this an incel quote if you argue calmly and rationally, in my opinion. But we can disagree.
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>>84046009
these forums are full of women. a venting discord server i was in was filled with women, and children. often women have partners from these forums they kill themselves, within case in point in what happened in another imageboard(image is too big https://files.catbox.moe/9e9tmp.png)
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>>84048939
i read all of that, is there any update of that anon? what was the context? i thought he was planning to meet with an underage girl and was paranoid she was a fed, but then u know, turns out thats not what he was worried about getting in trouble for
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>>84047954
people don't retire at 45 or generally before 65. there are really two kinds of suicides, the one you're describing and the one out of desperation or as a planned form of exit after a crime, like a murder-suicide. you're fundamentally right though: most people posting on this sort of forum are doing so from a lack of meaning in their lives.
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i didn't clarify how to do that and gave realistic reasons why each method would fail. hate me if you'd like. here's more: a violent method like a gun leaves extensive gore that traumatizes anyone who finds you and requires specialized cleaning services ala sunshine cleaning to remove. the image will never go away regardless. when you die, you release your bowels and shit yourself. should you hang, gravity works against you and it will pour down and pool at your feet. it is near impossible to actually suffocate yourself as the body will fight from survival instinct to breathe, most hanging deaths are actually from the breaking of the windpipe or other damage rather than actual oxygen deprivation. carbon monoxide poisoning in a small space will make you extremely lightheaded and loopy. this makes it likely to turn of the generator of it (like a car) and leave you with permanent brain damage instead. many suicide attempts end with permanent brain damage or other physical damage if they are not successful, and just about every single person who details this regrets attempting and failing in this way, especially since their failure often means that they can't try again in the future. invisible monsters: remix covers this topic. a bomb will do far more than kill you and the damage is unpredictable. you could easily blow off multiple limbs and survive or take a very long time to bleed out. jumpers underestimate the height needed and upon collision with the ground tend to break many different bones in extremely painful positions rather than kill themselves. most who survive say they immediately regret their choice.
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what site is that?
>>84049493
if you think im reading all that, you should follow your own instructions, autismo nutjob
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>>84049702
it is not archived you idiot. 4chan threads get deleted and the archives get wiped every few years. No one wants to look it up anyway.
I didn't not read it because it was too much for me to read, I didn't read it because it is meaningless, mean spirited dribble.
your words arent as important as you think you are. but if you think about suicide and steps on how to kill yourself this much, you have probably considered taking your life before and probably will again in the future. i really, really hope you do decide to end it all because you seem like a bad person who makes the world a worse place by existing and for the sake of the people unfortunate enough to live around you, find a way to end your life.
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>>84046159
An incel is just one of those well-behaved, kind virgins on a bad day. Any normal person, if rejected by enough people, will experience some level of frustration and bitterness. The reality is that nobody cares if you spent 10 years never complaining, even though you were miserable and alone every single day. The only thing that matters to people is the 5 minutes you did express that frustration to them. That's what gets you called an incel.
There is no virtue in holding restraining these feelings. Women and normalfags are not owed our silence. The idea of the kind-hearted virgin is just some noble myth normalfags use to not-so-subtly tell you to fuck off and shut up about your problems. The irony is that in my own experience those who are the most vocal and aggressive about their incel feelings are the most likely to get laid/get a gf, while Mr. Nice Virgin is stuck alone forever.
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>>84046009
ANYONE who is suicidal deserves care and support and their situation is unfortunate
why is this a men vs. women issue?
the claim 'woman is easy mode' is obviously false but the types of guys who are on /r9k/ will also obviously say that BECAUSE OF THEIR OWN LIVED EXPERIENCES where they are lonely and never desired or chosen or even befriended...
so let's try to have some empathy all around
and yes stats are somewhat due to method but it's ALSO due to the stigma against males sharing their emotions and feelings without being seen as 'weak' and 'pathetic' so we need to reverse those patriarchal norms TOGETHER
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>>84046009
Firs of all SS is not a sui forum, it's a congregation of mentally ill people telling other mentally ill people effective ways to kill themselves for reasons that often involve goading and demoralization tactics.
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>>84046009
women being rejected by Chad fundamentally breaks something in them.
Everyone conveniently ignores the fact guys get ignored and rejected by every possible women they come across, and yet we are still alive.
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>>84049880
the site archives are wiped every three days and external site archives go back to 2005 across different websites. i explicitly outlined why each method realistically fails as a deterrent and what you are left with, which is an objective assessment of this sort of situation.
>your words arent as important as you think you are.
didn't say that.
>but if you think about suicide and steps on how to kill yourself this much, you have probably considered taking your life before
correct.
>and probably will again in the future.
nope, see the actual post.
>i really, really hope you do decide to end it all because you seem like a bad person who makes the world a worse place by existing and for the sake of the people unfortunate enough to live around you, find a way to end your life.
>I didn't read it because it is meaningless, mean spirited dribble.
mkay.
if that is you up there wondering about an update on previous anons, we have more in common than you think. it's a shame you spent your posts responding like this given that we seem to agree suicide is bad mkay?
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Is it always over Chad?
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>>84050166
i've never seen south park but i assume that is a reference to the last line which is often used as a meme. for some reason i was thinking more of the scene from office space with the incredibly condescending boss though. i am weird, thank you for noticing!
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>She was struggling with poverty
>The gender that can by default be provided for by the opposite gender
I struggle to find any sympathy for a woman who would end herself over having to depend on a non Chad.
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>>84051271
>The gender that can by default be provided for by the opposite gender
Are you retarded? Even most married women have to work and bring money in, the average man can't 100% provide and pay rent/food/insurance for a second human who doesn't work at all.
She had a boyfriend though and she felt like she became a burden to him due to her illness, and he also expressed that he wanted more from her and was disappointed about her not working or doing things.
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