>>84046067
no vocaroo = trannie thread

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>>84046067
>conventionally unattractive
did not read further than that.
weighing more than me is not "conventional" .

I have a six pack. Everyone should have a six pack. I don't care about your arbitrary fertility idol romanticisms. Delusional.

>>84046067
I do count conventionally unattractive women, but you are going to pretend you didn't hear that

>>84046067
FATTY FAT FAT FAT LOSE WEIGHT FATTY

>>84046129
>>84046140
>Implying women can't be ugly in the face. This is exactly what I mean. You only look at Stacies and pretend unattractive women don't exist.
>>84046130
Conventionally unattractive women are used by desperate men for easy sex or kept as a placeholder until they find someone better looking. A man can't be loyal to an unattractive woman.

>>84046161
has that happened to you? are you just making stuff up?

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>this projection/bait thread again

>>84046067
My radar is FUCKED UP it is limited to women in my uni classes who are all bonafide normalfags and egomaniacs and I have no time or money to meet people anywhere else unless its online but I have NO CREATIVE TALENTS that would help me stand out amongst people in a space as saturated as the internet

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>>84046067
i want a 6 or lower imperfect girl who's just a decent person, is that too much to ask

>>84046173
If you, as a man, don't also agree with women that the vast majority of men are unappealing to look at, you're extremely gay.

Also where are you getting the 93% being rated as mediocre or below? That 12% is smack in the middle of the distribution. You're twisting the meaning of "mediocre" beyond what it actually means.

Yes, the people having to compete for mates are definitely the ones whose standards are too high. Not the ones that do the sexual selection, that'd be absurd

You're right but missing the point. Maybe next time just stop being fucking obese and act nice&submissive? That's all you need.

Nobody wants a fat girlfriend. Would rather die alone.
If you can't show to a man you have enough self-control to make yourself petite, nobody will ever consider you a partner. Enough said.

>>84046067
I don' have any issue with physically unattractive women and I won't ignore them as friends (with benefits even) but it's true that I wouldn't date them.
I only want a serious marriage material relationship and yeah there is a certain attractiveness cutoff for that. But unattractive women still deserve to be treated like humans.

>>84046067
Unattractive women can still easily get men, if they settle for unattractive incels. If you are an unattractive woman, you have options and just refuse to take them. While us incels have no options at all. So shut the fuck up and stop whining about how hard it is to get your shitty abusechad

>>84046599
Why should i have consideration for you, when you have no consideration for me?

>>84046623
You should stop being so picky. Plenty of us incels would accept you, you just consider that a fate worse than death because all you value is Chad. You will pretend that actually us incels only want stacies, but that's just a lie you tell yourself to feel better about being a horrid picky heartless piece of shit

>>84046623
give ur contact since ur so "lonely", you dont mind if someone here gets with you?

>>84046067
>Men ignore conventionally unattractive women (they aren't even on their radar)
Not true in my observation but i don't know how those interactions end. Still it is not true for me that i ignore any woman. I have never been given the chance to ignore a woman because they ignore me first.

>>84046067
Can you post an unconventionally attractive woman for reference? If she's overweight or unkempt it doesn't count.

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>>84046129
This is 160lbs at 5ft5. You incel retards are pedos who want skeletors and actual children.

>>84046067
Wtf are you talking about. The fattest ugliest bitch will get dozens more matches than the average guy. Kys retarded foid.

I never ignored them, I dated fat bitches and weird looking bitches and they were just as bad, there's no point mincing with women, it's all a gamble. Tbh, nowa days I choose women based on how nice they are to me and how stable they are mentally. Looks aren't the most important thing personally.

>>84046067
I said that before and I'll say it again. STOP just randomly replacing genders. IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. Men are from mars, women are from venus. We really aren't the same species. You might as well talk about men not taking care of their feathers and not watching out when they fly to justify having sex with birds.

>>84046129
A woman with a six pack is unhealthy. Either her bf% is dangerously low (healthy bf% for women is basically 10% higher than for men and thus can't show a 6 pack no matter what), or is on roids.
Then again, it's not possible to be thin enough for 6 packs for more than a couple months at most and be healthy (again, assuming you're not a roid monkey). You would know that if you weren't larping. You are probably morbidly obese.

>>84046194
Confirmed foid lmao
Literally
>if men are smarter, why do we have longer hair?
tier retarded

>>84047210
the BMI of a women of that weight and height is over 25, which is medically classed as overweight AKA fat.

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>>84047210
>posts an outlier to justify ugly flabby dependent lifestyle
you have to cling on to the word "pedo" because you know the average woman doesn't have the agency to MAN UP AND WORK HARD for a better physique.

the ironic thing about the pedo thing, is that women actively go out of their way to seek higher status males that treat them like fucking BABIES. because their fetish revolves around unequal power dynamics. literal pseduo-incestuous autopedophilia up in their filthy brains.


>>84047232
>arbitrary pseudo-health pedantics
read above
a barely noticable six pack is still better than oval shaped cattle
we're not talking about pregnant people you stupid fucking gynoslave. fuck off.

>>84047232
Hey buddyrino, if my tummy is flat then so should hers! This is the basic definition of looksmatching! And it's attainable! Unlike fucking height and bone width!

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>men surgically elongating their legs and jelqing their diccs, killing their selves after getting divorceraped, goyslaving to get a fraction female attention, breaking their backs at the squat rack after lifting too heavy

erm guys we REALLY need to be heckin concerned about the unrealistic beauty standards our culture is inflicting on women... Like basic monogamy!

>>84047604
>real life is pseudo
>my morbidly obese delusions about what health looks like are real though
lol

>>84047625
Flat tummy != 6 pack. Backpedal harder.
Not attainable though because she has 100 simps waiting for a crumb of her pussy ready to kill themselves, or you, for it.
She does not have to settle.

>>84047210
She has lucky fat distribution genetics with a belly compressing pants on. Most 5'5 women need to be around 120 pounds.

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>>84046194
female intellect at display

>>84047681
it was backpedaled because you went autistic about heckin pwecious womens biology.

Flat tummy + flat tummy = looksmatch (if women and men are truly equal)

>Not attainable though because she has 100 simps
arbitrary and entirely dependent on the zeitgeist, marketplace and standards. which are impermanent.

>She does not have to
society does not have to force themselves to coddle parasitic women from "harmful body standards" nor do males have to lower their expectations (it should rise) and all it takes for it to rise is nonstop 10/10 hentai porn simulated directly into the male brain at a young age.

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>>84047677
the thing you project onto patterns of cause and affect are pseudo. it's all in your mind and it's all arbitrary.

>morbidly
still clinging. all one has to do to lose weight is to not eat and move around. if this is the bare minimum for men then it's the bare minimum for women. equal effort equal responsibility equal sacrifice. it's that simple.

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>>84047232
>>84047681
It's not that hard to get a six pack, man. I was able to burn off belly fat in like 9 months for some of it to finally show up. If women can't do that then they are ontologically fucked in the head and are perpetual children.

>>84047910
You are seeing things that aren't there. Take your schizo meds.

>>84047956
OK? Go fuck men if you like that so much, what does that have to do with anything?
So by six packs you don't mean six pack at all, got it. You really are completely deluded. Lmao.

>>84047956
Women need a higher bf% to stay healthy. The healthy range is slightly above where abs are visibly defined.
This is not true of men, where the healthy bf% is right where abs are visible.

>>84046067
The guys who don't treat visual appeal as a primary factor in dating selection.. they don't do very much date selection in general...or dating period

>>84047972
i care about what's inside, but but when i talk to people i get the sense that there's not a lot inside of them
they don't introspect, they don't know themselves
they are not curious about the other
they don't know how to go deep

>>84047521
BMI is set to a bullshit standard for drug selling reasons, longest lifespan is found for over 25 BMI

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>>84046067
>Men ignore conventionally unattractive women

Just put yourself out there. Be you, a human. And people will start paying attention

>>84048027
>Be me
>A human
>Stay inside unless i need food
I saw a cashier with fresh cuts and sh scars but i didn't say anything because i think that would be patronizing and unwanted when they just want to do their job.

>>84048047
>sh
>wants to do their job
Obviously not
Also
>considering ever even so much as talking to a sh bpdemon
Retard

>>84047985
The same dynamic exists in capable unattractive people.
An inverse of the familiar lookism, but it's thinkism
Those who are are introspective and have fascinating interests and curiosities are not willing to settle for anyone who cannot meet them intellectually.

>>84046067
I've seen fat chicks and objectively ugly chicks dating gymrats taller than me
Juggernaut law stands firm femcel = volcel

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>>84046067
The truth is life is shit show clown circus nightmare for 99% of people men and women both. The average person is not conventionally attractive they're painfully ordinary and these days most people are fat and unshapley to boot. Ordinary women are just enabled more and given more petty sympathy and help than the average man so it's hard for spergs to have any empathy for female struggles when they're just told "ha you suck try harder!". Plenty of females lives are a horrendous futile struggle and yet if they were a man they would be treated even worse and given even less opportunities. You can't expect poor people to have a bleeding heart for the upper middle class. Same dynamic for ugly men and ugly women. If you can't understand this situation then you're too self-absorbed to look at it objectively. Once you really understand empathy you stop expecting to get it from other people.

>>84048096
I am somewhat like that, but the criterion isn't so much that she is on my intellectual level, so much as she doesn't hate it so much when I mention something cool that she is checking out on tiktok while lying to me and saying she's interested and listening.
Otherwise, she has to offer "something", doesn't have to be intellectual, but it's definitely hard to engage if we have nothing in common. Just cuddling is nice, but not enough for a proper relationship.
However, it would be a fuckhuge bonus if she could keep up at all.
For example, a girl I am crushing on now is not at all on my level, but she loves learning about things on her own and I enjoy showing her or teaching her stuff. That is much more than enough.

>>84046067
Wrong I like mouse girls that most of my other colleagues dismiss as meh.
Women are almost always unattractive from being too fat.

>>84046067
As long as a woman isn't fat or hideously ugly or disfigured, at least some men will find her attractive.
I work with a woman who most wouldn't consider "conventionally attractive", but I think she's cute, physically, but also in her manerisms, especially the way she talks.
I would gladly date her, and I have admittedly, had sexual fantasies about her.

>>84048972
There you have it. Disgusting moids admitting what we all knew: they will fuck anything that moves. Shallow as fuck.

>>84049123
Says the foid who wants a 6'2 dude in finance lmao

>>84049123
Hi it's me, licherully le all moids. Heed my opinions for I am the collective!

>>84049123
>likes her mannerisms
>likes the way she talks
>doesn't mind that she's unattractive
>SHALLOW
are women just fucking retarded bros?
or is this a guy trolling?

>>84049152
He thinks she's ugly but it's OK because she has holes. That's shallow.

>>84049160
Do you have a puddle for a brain

>>84049169
>>84049152
>>84049133
>>84049130
More proof that moids are shallow sex pests who will fuck anything with a hole even if they aren't attracted to it.

>>84049194
Lady I don't even know you.

>>84049194
More ad hominems. Pathetic.

>moids have too high standards
>moids will fuck anything that moves
It's the latter for sex and the former for marriage.

Wow, I posted >>84048972 and then came back to see all the replies >>84049123 must be trolling or retarded because anon entirely missed the point of my post

>>84046067
>Men ignore conventionally unattractive women (they aren't even on their radar), so they assume that all women are privileged in dating. Moids assume that women have it easy when it comes to dating (or stuff like the ability to make an OnlyFans and make easy money)
These aren't assumptions. Dating apps provide pleanty of data saying men want to fuck everything vaguely female in shape.
>But I think this is insular and dogmatic. While this might be true on average (women have an easier time dating than men overall), it ignores women who don't fit the male gaze.
Like nose rings? Men still want those. Like tomboys? Men really still want those. The only thing men don't want is unhealthy shit like being morbidly obese. Men even like chubby shapely women.
>It seems like a lot of men don't even count conventionally unattractive women as women sometimes (or ever consider them and their experiences).
Wouldn't such hypothetic women be free of rhe male gaze and thus liberated now? I mean, that's what feminism says of the male role models and the male social environments they tore down. They liberated young men by gving them the freedom to be whoever they want, they'd say. But, you know, that freedom is worthless since he's going to be alone and hang himself because he's not entitled to belong anywhere, despite being free of maleness. Likewise, unconventionally attractive women are actually privileged, because they're free of the male gaze. Lol.

>>84049229
>These aren't assumptions. Dating apps provide pleanty of data saying men want to fuck everything vaguely female in shape.
Exactly. Men are shallow, women only date people they actually like.

>Like nose rings? Men still want those. Like tomboys? Men really still want those. The only thing men don't want is unhealthy shit like being morbidly obese. Men even like chubby shapely women.

Case in point.

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>>84046067
Maybe most men focus on model type women, but what about you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yCysuJuOVo&list=RD3yCysuJuOVo&start_radio=1

>>84049242
>Exactly. Men are shallow, women only date people they actually like.
>
Well, it's not like men have enough choices to be very picky about it. It's like how a poor person just likes anything associated with being rich upon winning the lottery. Not much thought is put into getting the very best thing. Just the fact that "rich people have it" is enough to satisfy the formerly poor person. Males have a much lower sexual value and can't get shit lots of the time, so this is how it turns out. They're just happy to be fortunate enough to get any action at all.

It's why I'm a volcel. I'd rather go without sex than degrade myself on women who don't even really want me there.

>>84049242
Your arguments are lame. Women date men they hate all the time, even marry them. If they didn't why divorce?
If the men you date are shallow that's your own problem. My problem is i've never met a woman who wasn't shallow.

But unlike you i don't seethe about it. As far as i'm concerned right now i'm unlucky statistically, not systematically oppressed.

>>84049379
We date men we like, men date whatever hole they can fuck because they're shallow. This is why we divorce you, because you were just roleplaying to get your dick wet, which is the only thing you care about.

>>84049388
>We date men we like
1) why doesn't he like you back?
2) when he likes you back and marries you why divorce?
>men date whatever hole they can fuck because they're shallow.
I have never done this.
>This is why we divorce you, because you were just roleplaying to get your dick wet
It is cheaper to buy sex than to stay married. Logic fails.

>>84049379
not the op, but i dont see an argument here. both you and op's point just prove they have the judgment of an amoeba. i mean they literally pick bears .

>>84049397
>1) why doesn't he like you back?
Because he's shallow and only cares about fucking
>2) when he likes you back and marries you why divorce?
Because he never likes us back, he just wants to lock us down and use us like nannies or cattle.
>I have never done this.
All men do it, liar.
>It is cheaper to buy sex than to stay married. Logic fails.
We see through your bullshit, but you are shallow so you think we can't. That's why you think it's worth to marry-rape us.

>>84049431
>Because he's shallow and only cares about fucking
Then why get married and risk divorce rape? When prostitutes are safer and cheaper?
>Because he never likes us back, he just wants to lock us down and use us like nannies or cattle.
Then why date him and marry him?
>All men do it, liar.
You are a tranny. If you deny this i will simply call you a liar.
>We see through your bullshit
There is no we.
>but you are shallow so you think we can't.
You think yourself so smart that i don't know you are a tranny immediately?
>That's why you think it's worth to marry-rape us.
It's not. Do the math, prostitutes are cheaper, safer, and more fun.
Cease trying to inspire misogyny tranny. You made a poor choice, it is not mens fault they have no desire for you.

>>84049460
Divorce rape is a myth by shallow men who don't want to commit. It's made up, and men know it. It's yet another lie to get naive women to let down their guard so they are easier to fuck.
>You are a tranny
Whatever helps you sleep at night, chuddie.

>>84049501
>no argument
Don't get bottom surgery.