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another pseudo-enlightenment gynoslave trap. you fundamentally do not understand what's actually going on. you think people go on (4chan) to be "happy" and not to blow off steam in a place that isn't totally regulated by a hyper-centralized monoculture that SPECIFICALLY SIDES WITH PROTECTED CLASSES LIKE WOMEN(TM). lol

>>84046254
i think most people here know that already but still choose to be here for stupid reasons

humans are a very odd species

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Your whole spiel is ignoring things to protect the status quo, probably rooted by your subconscious bias for gynocentrism.

Internalize pic related. This is the state of """"monogamy""" post-2016. There is an elephant the size of saturn in the room concerning which gender is sentient enough to value monogamy.

You now realize that the majority of modern dating & romance is a humiliation ritual for men that perpetuates an unconscious social hierarchy which pedestalizes women.

You already know the antiromantic nature of "dating apps". Realize those gender dynamics are slowly bleeding into "commonly accepted beliefs."

It can be prevented though. Fantasymaxxing and solipsism are a worthwhile solution. Meme yourself into a asocial schizoid. Everything is arbitrary.

Women are mostly coddled and so they "naturally" expect you to fall in line while also being "dominant" and "powerful" at the same time. It is a sickening paradox that subjugates men into being soulfarm cattle for the "women" thoughtform they idealize in their heads.

deliberately atomise society and remove any avenue that lets men coddle women (parasites). destroy ALL gender roles. (It's already happening). the only solution is to rape and destroy the zeitgeist. dissociate, dissociate, dissociate.

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>>84046303
Literally not one mention of pursuing in that post. Take your meds schizo

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>>84046254
4chan is, for now, the only place where I can fully express myself anonymously. All the other fun altchans from the 00s and 10s are long gone.

I love that I can just show up and post, the oldfag that I am, same as anyone who just joined last Tuesday. No need to sign and scan a QR code and click through the confirmation email or enter a 5-digit code you receive via text and give your name and everything so it can inevitably be leaked when it inevitably gets hacked like other apps and websites and services.

Should I ever repeat the mistake of getting into politics or social issues or the economy on reddit or twitter or facebook or youtube comments or anywhere else it always devolves into a shit show. People messaging me about a comment or post from 15 months ago and they're screaming at me to drag on this stupid debate that ultimately neither of us sincerely care about we only want to get the last word in.

Being cancel cultured by either the Left or the Right for spicy political opinions. Having a crazy person be obsessed with me and catalog all of my posting history and find my other accounts and dox me and kill me in my sleep and wear my skin just because I wrote somewhere that I prefer dogs over cats or they didn't like my top 10 movies list or something completely inconsequential. That's the power of the modern internet.

And ultimately, it's still fun for me... all these years later.
If it's not fun, what's the point?

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Then you haven't thought harder. The blackpill is for YOUR SAKE. Retards wrongly interpret the blackpill as a masochistic thing.

When you "ignore it" you ENABLE the parasitic feminine.

For those in the know, the 'blackpill' is actually the whitepill and the so called "loneliness epidemic" is a righteous practice that you're meant to embrace. More men should indeed 'drop out' so that the kingdom of parasites shrivel up into damnation.

You have to revel in the bitterness and nihilism until you see the light. The 'blackpill' is the perfect essence that loosens the heart from the clutches of the so called "instinct" to provide for the parasitic feminine. That's why institutions counter-signal against it. psych-evol dogmatists will seethe. fake-Christians will basedrage.

Leave 'womanhood' behind, take nothing from it. Nothing is there except what you put in it.

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>>84046336
hey speaking of posters who would skin you alive over a slight disagreement of opinions.

I like women, they're soft and nice and neat and they look good and smell nice.

Some can be bitchy or snooty I guess but anytime I was bullied or abused or openly made fun of to my face or threatened or traumatized in any other way like the older neighbor kid who made me touch dicks with him that one time - it was always another male.

>>84046332
>I love that I can just show up and post, the oldfag that I am, same as anyone who just joined last Tuesday
Yep. As far as I'm concerned 4chan is what the internet is and is supposed to be. Reddit/youtube/insta/etc are valuable services but they're not "the internet" in the true meaningful sense, they're something separate.

The actual, true internet that I knew from when I was younger is basically gone, 4chan being a shitty degraded exception but an exception nonetheless.

>>84046254
>>84046282
If someone consistently spends a lot of time on here then yeah that's a bad thing, and I'm sure that's a large portion of the users here, but for myself and many others it's a break from both the real world and polished digital corporate slop. I have a productive, happy life outside of this place and yeah this website is full of shit, but it's sincere and it's a break from the slop. My time here is not meant to be productive or well spent to begin with.

>>84046254
You're absolutely right. Thank you anon. I can't believe I was getting annoyed with people on here today. So many hours wasted.

>>84046254
He's wrong, cos today I said I'd be productive and I went to the library to make videos and edit them, then realised it's boring af and has no pay off and realised that simply working and buying a house, having a daily, is all gone cos our economy has become fucked and all wealth is being extracted from it, so then I thought "well there's nothing to do but scroll anyway" so I came here.

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>>84046254
I've been feeling the same way about this site in general. It's like 4chan is reaching heat death with how generic most posts are; it's either bait threads or shill threads and most posters do nothing besides parroting back whatever they read in X or other sites in here.
I agree. It's time to leave 4chan behind.

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>>84046397
>Yep. As far as I'm concerned 4chan is what the internet is and is supposed to be. Reddit/youtube/insta/etc are valuable services but they're not "the internet" in the true meaningful sense, they're something separate.
>The actual, true internet that I knew from when I was younger is basically gone, 4chan being a shitty degraded exception but an exception nonetheless.
I'm glad that GameFAQs is still around. I never posted there and I only ever look at guides for retro games which in themselves are little time capsules with the guide author telling you the reader to reach out to them at some AOL, yahoo or hotmail email account.

I felt genuine grief when the bodybuilding.com forum was taken offline. SA is another that I never posted to but I lurked and read all their weekly highlights and even though it's still around it's also a shell of its former glory days. At least it's still there.

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>>84046431
Not to sound like a total faggot but honestly it makes me really happy to read oldfags' posts. Partly for nostalgia and partly because probably 80% of users here are literal children nowadays.

(Unless you're lying.)

>>84046397
>If someone consistently spends a lot of time on here then yeah that's a bad thing and I'm sure that's a large portion of the users here
yeah thats true, its mostly cuz there is just nothing to do in their actual life they need to cling to this website for any form of gratification and engagement

this site's best perk is that anyone can post anything but it's biggest downside too
>>84046467
>because probably 80% of users here are literal children nowadays
well thats how the internet is, its an old site too, people grow up and find new things to be engaged in(i am a ne fag too)

>>84046254
I agree with everything in that post but go where?? Every other place online sucks even harder. When 4chan got hacked I was so happy I could finally quit this place but when it went online I was back on the doomscroll. While 4chan was out I just spent the same time I would here on X except I wouln't post anything. Without online spaces I have no one to talk to. No one to meet.

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>>84046467
Sometimes I think about where people my age would be online besides the obvious of facebook and youtube or even reddit, probably the type of person you find leaving comments in msn.com and yahoo news articles or on pirated anime streaming sites.

I miss the old altchans and I wish there were more, but 4chan is good enough for now

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>>84046254
>Chase your dreams
What dreams?

>>84046303
what a hilarious living sitcom

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>>84046336
ok

i can't post without an account anywhere else and i don't like doing that. hence, on 4chan i stay and will stay until it burns down. besides, i have nostalgia for old times on here and still regard the people running it with extreme fondness, as i always did.
>despite what they kept fucking doing about it in response.

>>84046254
Why would anyone go anywhere to argue? Retarded behaviour. I come here to discuss things with people who largely agree with me. Arguing anything with anyone is a waste of time, regardless of if they 'engage one another on key points'.

I just like talking to people who actually think about things and have things to say about their supposed 'interests', unlike normalfags.
>Oh dude I totally love skyrim!
>Huh? WHAT do I like about it? And WHY? Uh, I don't know. Fus roh dah things off cliff, right, haha? Arrow to the knee lol.
I can have an actual conversation about shared interests here as opposed to enduring the most shallow, surface level 'Thing good!' conversation I've ever had for the xxxth fucking time in my life. People here are actually worth talking to. But not arguing with. Nobody is ever worth arguing with.

>>84047593
Nobody is ever worth 'arguing' with, but a civil debate didn't use to be completely out of the question. To use your topic of Skyrim as an example, a theoretical debate could be about what modlist is best, what build, which hold they prefer, which Daedric Prince is worth their time if any, the Aedra vs Daedra in general, are the DLCs worth it? paid mods?, a discussion of Morrowind vs Oblivion vs Skyrim compared to Daggerfall and Arena or ESO, Skyblivion? Skywind?, etc. Those would generally fall under a general discussion thread though. Debates on here used to be far more broad and structured.

>>84046254
I chased the dream, she invited me to her house, I spilled spaghetti, I hurt her, I have not nor will not forgive myself. This was 10 years ago, I saw her again last year, she ran away from me.
She was perfect, I wanted to love and protect her, and ended up causing her pain. I hate myself for doing that to her.

>>84047634
You're probably right, but I've never liked the term debate. Implies competition from the outset. If you discuss things you disagree on and why you think them/disagree with the other person, to my mind, that's an exchange of information, not a competition. I think it becomes a debate when you're convinced you are right, they are wrong, and you are going to prove that rather than listening to what they have to say. And if you've both already made up your minds like that, there's literally no point in the interaction, no matter how structured it is. Positivity, praise, and encouragement are what influence people to change their minds, trying to argue with them or disprove just puts them on the defensive and makes them dig in their heels and double down.

>>84047697
All of those are excellent points and I fundamentally agree with you. A 'dialogue' or 'dialectic' would be more accurate than 'debate', I suppose. There once were threads on here that were basically open calls to post your thoughts on which political structure was ideal, or which philosophy you felt was the most truthful to your experience and that of human existence, sometimes even mentions of religion (though this quickly devolved into atheist vs christfag memeing). The sentiment was to explain and, perhaps if queried, defend your position but not from a truly defensive angle, just one under intellectual rigor. It requires active moderation and structuring though and many of those posters ended up in rationalist spheres or literally on Reddit. They also tended to die or devolve quickly if there weren't posts in them early on that were lengthy and civil. More than one was suspected of having that active moderation 'seed' positions and simulate discussion between them including conflict that would increase in hostility before a slower decrease as new positions were added to show nuance and bridge the arguments with others chiming in in agreement with one side ideologically but auditing their logic and defending the other on that basis. In theory this would set the tone for the rest of the board and model behavior. During that period, people actually apologized to each other unprompted. Whether that social engineering was particularly ethical is up for debate, but it clearly did not last on here once the seeding and active moderation stopped.

>>84047734
Sounds nice honestly. More culture that's been lost to election tourists and zoomers, just like the ability to play along with a joke. Nowadays I expect something like that would turn into nothing but wojaks, pepes, and people calling each other cucks and brownoids immediately.

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Where is this magical place with quality content available more quickly and efficiently; full of engaging arguments, fun, learning, and stories?

>>84046359
Yes goy, fight back at your bullies and ill be waiting to reward the winn- i mean ill be right behind you

>>84046336
>that image
Disgusting. I can tell chatGPT's writing style now and I see it everywhere.

>>84046332
I do think reddit/Youtube etc. are definitely a hivemind but is that all 4chan is good for is basically if you have extreme opinions no one cares? I barely post anywhere cause I have mostly mainstream opinions but on the flipside if you visit 4chan as a leftie you'll get piled on for being "different"
In contrast to you the only time I was ever doxed my entire life was by some bpd rightoid on Discord (in a small group where I trusted everyone) cause I he got mad over me insulting Trump or whatever and he threatened to keep doing it if I didn't keep my mouth shut about US politics so I left lol. it's not just a reddit/Youtube thing. and no I didn't call him a hecking cheeto

Also the new captchas are ass I've had to click "Get Captcha" and wait 60s like 5x in a row. You can definitely post on a buncha other platforms with just a proton email account I'm pretty sure. not everything is linked to your Google, phone number, address or whatever

>>84047965
It would, and it had the tonal equivalent back then as well, but if the conversation is flooded by posts that consistent more than six words with half of them slurs the posters that put effort into their conversation tend to find each other as you and I are doing right now and the rest filter off. What they want is attention and ignoring them works wonders.

>>84046558
Replace the screentime with literally anything else, reading, puzzles, going on walks. Are you that useless?

>>84046336
You shared an AI generated post, complete with the rhetorical flourishes that most models use. Why?

>>84047593
Video toys are not real interests. You are getting exactly the kind of conversations you should be having.

>>84048474
Ive seen a forum where half of the users are using chat gpt to write their posts and everybody acted like they werent

>>84048127
Ebaumsworld LOL!

>>84049572
don't you mean gaia online?

>>84049461
>reading, puzzles, going on walks
I like these things but none of them include discussing topics with other people so they're not really a replacement for social media.

>>84050536
Socialize with people irl, join a book club

>doesn't realize the same dynamic plays out everywhere else as well