>>84048156
women complain about pay gap and yet only go for men who earn more than them. fascinating creatures

>>84048156
>They always want the BEST man in their environment
No, most married within their small community just fine throughout most of human history.
>if you can't even be better than me, then how will you be better than other men?
Being better than other man is not a requirement of being sexually attractive. Not being a bum is. You don't really compete with men of your community. In some cases, yeah, but not generally. Generally, you are allies.
>A marriage is only stable when a wife feels completely INFERIOR to her husband.
That is not how traditional marriage functioned historically. You both get a role. You both have to fulfill it. If you fail, like in a case of the husband becoming a lazy drunkard, women even beat them up, which is a common folklore story. You were shamed, by both men and women. Men have always had more political power, but in everyday life, men and women have always been roughly equal.

Wrong. Modern marriages fail because they are useless and do not serve any purpose. Men equally are not interested in marriages or children. Too many people are urbanites and never in history of humanity have urbanites wanted kids. They still happened, but against the odds. Contraception is just much better now. But it doesn't matter, in urban society we do not need so many people, living the city is already cuckdom and more people just make air even heavier. Children flourish where every connection and helping hand matters

As for females cheating, it is because of onionboys refusing to sex their wives daily, simple as.

What you gonna do, force women to marry ugly men? Good luck

>>84048156
This will never happen so humanity will slowly die out. The Egalitarian Paradox.

>>84048297
yes we will, you dont hear women complaining in afghanistan

I don't care about birthrates or divorce rates.

>>84048306
Wont happen in the West.

You're gonna see a lot of husbands mysteriously dying of poisoning if it does

>>84048282
Pretty sure prior to the 1920s most urban places had an above replacement rate fertility. Much lower than the countryside, true on that. And even after the 20s there were still cities with above 2.1 child per woman.
Rome is given as an example for below replacement level and it's true, but it's more of an exception. Also, prior to the 19th century Western countries, replacement level ferility was 3 to 4 children, due to high child mortality. There are states in Sahal Africa toaday where replacement is still at 2.4-2.5. There were simply too many people stacked in Rome, at times above 1 million, which indeed screwed the living conditions. Meanwhile, most towns and cities of the empire were in the 50-100 k range and were naturally growing slowly + migration to them.

>>84048310
What about tax rates and fee rates... Do you hats rates?

>>84048337
Ancient Rome, Victorian London, and Paris have known of this problem for millennia.

>>84048345
I might one day when i inevitably have to pay taxes but for now i haven't. I don't know what you mean by fee rates. For lawyers and such?

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>>84048333
>Wont happen in the West.
yes it will

don't need birth rates, the world is overpopulated

>>84048156
>A marriage is only stable when a wife feels completely INFERIOR to her husband. When her man utterly mogs her in every way: attractively, financially, racially, etc.

Well its why sociopaths guys do so with women, they will constantly put them down and go off and fuck other girls and then "zomg, he is superchad, i am so bad, he's getting so many chicks, I must stay"

>>84048427
Nah, things will stay as they are, and you'll just have to cope.

Moids only want 9/10's. Lets say ai matches you, moid anon as a 3/10, with what the ai says is a 3/10 woman, you wont like it.

Porn would also be banned, so your only sexual outlet would be your wife, who you'd hate. The ai would then match 9/10 chad to a 9/10 woman and you'd rage and cry about Gov't interference and how unfair it all is

I racially mog my chud wife and halfchud kids every time we go to the beach and she has to apply sunscreen as I glisten unbothered beneath the mediterranean Sun.

Divorce rates have been steadily decreasing the last decades. This little fact alone destroys OP's incel fantasy.

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>>84048446
>Nah, things will stay as they are, and you'll just have to cope.
40% of zoomer males outright oppose feminism
60% of zoomer males are virgins
this is unprecedented in history, feminism support grew with each generation since the early 20th century until now. generation alpha males have even bigger opposition to feminism according to few polls we have of them. what do you think will happen when they become true adults? its exactly that demographic, sexless men with nothing to lose, that is behind the revolutions.
>Moids only want 9/10's. Lets say ai matches you, moid anon as a 3/10, with what the ai says is a 3/10 woman, you wont like it.
you are projecting like all women do. its the women who are hypergamous while men prefer their looksmatch

>>84048476
Lmao
Some stats from my city's census data

1999: 6769 marriages registered (medium sized city btw) 886 divorces
2008: 3043 marriages and 1933 divorces
2015: 2166 marriages and 1248 divorces
2021: 2248, marriages and 3494 divorces (lol)
2024: 2548 marriages and 2253 divorces

We're almost at the point where divorces outnumber marriages. the average age of first marriage has also jumped from 28 to 37.
things have gotten so bad that the government invented this thing called "civil union" where, if you live with a GF long enough, she gains the same rights as a wife and can take all your shit.

>>84048534
>We're almost at the point where divorces outnumber marriages.
Any fembots want to get divorced with me? No need for marriage first i just want to add "divorced" to my profile and increase my chances.

>>84048476
only in afghanistan after taliban took over

>>84048515
I have always felt that those graphs reflect more of a reality than men care to accept. First, that men are relatively undiscerning (a turnoff in women). Second, that men are relatively unattractive (height is a psyop, sure, but hairloss is not and it affects men at a dramatically higher rate). Third, chad was not going to be on okcupid back when that survey was taken. Finally, women are generally better at taking pictures of themselves and the distorting effects of poor photography are less flattering on male features than on female features.

The data are basically useful to internalise to understand how likely it is that a random member of the opposite sex will find you attractive from pictures alone. Coping and seething over it is unlikely to be productive.

>>84048584
>height is a psyop, sure
Whenever women learn my height online they lose interest. Irl it is much worse.

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>>84048584
>height is a psyop
cope

>>84048599
>tfw not in the double digits even if i round up
I am curious about factoring in all of these things and seeing the results. Height, income, race, weight, etc.

>>84048534
>things have gotten so bad that the government invented this thing called "civil union" where, if you live with a GF long enough, she gains the same rights as a wife and can take all your shit.

Half, and you havent got anything worth taking anyway

>>84048599
>>84048590
You are falling for the psyop, which is that women say they like tall guys as code for bragging that they are chadsexual. Obviously tallness is a preferred trait. It is left as an exercise for you two to figure out why they do this even though height is marginal.

>>84048652
You misuse the word psyop.

>>84048666
No, you just think psyops must be done by Jews in media when in reality little girls learn how to do them concurrently with language acquisition, as any victim of female school bullying can attest.

>>84048156
No. But it has made it worse for sure.

>>84048694
>You think
Tell me more about what i think and belittle me anon instead of defining "psyop" as you understand it.

>>84048714
And here I thought you were little already

>>84048734
I smiled uniquely.

>>84048337
The fertility wasnt above replacement, because way more children died. It hovered around 0.9, if child death were accounted for. City women on average had 5 births per lifetime, but if 2 survived it was very lucky.

>There are states in Sahal Africa toaday where replacement is still at 2.4-2.5.
Yeah because they are mostly rural.
Even Indian cities have below replacement rate births.

>>84048625
The women who tried to take all my shit in court disagree with you lmao.

>>84048868
>women
Multiple

What happened

>>84048306
Why do men always dream of turning countries into pedophilia and slavery filled shitholes? Is there something wrong with men? (Yes)

>>84048515
>generation alpha males have even bigger opposition to feminism according to few polls we have of them
They are 13 years old.

>>84048306
you won't do shit, we're riding this train to oblivion

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>>84048246
>Women don't like guys who mog.
Try to make your lies more convincing. Women historically SETTLED for non-moggers and proceeded to make his life hell with a miserable marriage. They only settled when they had to, which they don't anymore, which proves that they never wanted to. They only hook up with the guy who's "not a bum" aka "betabux" when they have to in order to stay out of the poorhouse. Meanwhile they don't love him, they don't try for him, and they cheat on him whenever they can.
And women who think they can settle for life eventually get so stressed out by it that they have to divorce out early. Being with a non-mogger is literally stressful for women and destabilizes their psyche (even further than default).

>>84048901
I've been in 3 long term relationships and got sued for damages after ending 2 of them, alleging the amount of time spent cohabitating plus "extreme" difference in income caused them financial issues making it impossible for them to adjust to their new life. Both tried to have my apartment seized. The second one agreed to a settlement, i have to pay her rent for 24 months (only 8 months left)

>>84048948
Yes. Which means total extinction. rofl

>>84048948
NTA but either this society will subjugate its women, or the society that invades this one after it fails will subjugate them. Either way, women get subjugated. Ironically, women will defect to the winners of war anyway. It makes them wet.

this isn't even true, none of you actually understand the incentive structure and how women feel. Human reproduction was always male driven, it had nothing to do with appeasing women. If women are left to their own devices then they won't have children because not having children is the path of least resistance.

>>84048959
they won't do shit either, they will come on tough and then succumb to the same thing two generations later

>>84048959
No because as long as their living standards are high they will always refuse to breed. So it ultimately means death for everyone involved unless they're either forced to breed, or lose their luxury.

>>84048960
That's also not true. That would imply women are entirely asexual which they're definitely not. In fact, they're infinitely worse than men.

>>84048975
delusional, the female sex drive is a myth. They get a craving for Chad once every month and they're totally fine if they miss out.

>>84048991
>muh female sex drive doesn't exist cope
Yeah no. rofl

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>>84048965
After a rich history of how things go wrong? Not bloodly likely.

>>84048975
Artificial wombs/designer babies relieving women of their reproductive responsibilities. What little responsibility they had.
>Get tons of ease and convenience provided by the collective work of men.
>All you have to do is have some babies and feed them. Literally so easy a monkey could do it.
>Nope, that's too hard.
Men will do what they always do: Overcome yet another adversity nature is throwing at them. Do your part or get replaced by someone/something that will.

>>84048998
>Women are chad or nothing. Gets the ick and the eww at the thought of sexing anything less.
>Men's horniness will drive them to sex something they know they'll regret.
They're so different, they're not comparable. They are two different systems entirely.

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The issue that (that foids and simps want to pretend doesn't exist) is that women don't want to have children.
They only ever did it to secure their place in society, and secure a relatively comfortable life. Now that they can make 120k a year drinking smoothies and attending zoom meetings, they don't need a husband or children.

>>84048333
Lot of foids who can't even hide their own cum smell are suddenly going to alchemy:100 some poison that isn't totally obvious.
lol

>>84048953
Thats actually pretty shit. It ruins it for decent women

>>84049856
>that thing that happened to you is bad... because it ruins you as a paypig for future women
What an insulting thing to say

>>84049998
Not insulting, it means when a woman comes along that does want a genuine relationship then he will have his guard up, and a potential happy relationship is missed.

Why is that an insult to say that a happy relationship is missed out on?

>>84050051
The "potential happy relationship" was always a lie
>explain how this is insulting.
No. You can stay not knowing, filthy foid.

>>84050127
Wow someones bitter

>>84050161
Yeah
Some other woman already ruined it for you, now you don't get the pleasure of having me believe your lies.

>>84050221
I mean, i have spoken to men before lol.

I like older men and each of them tell me what they've gone through, with divorce, their kids etc. Some want to date again and some dont, its not a big deal. You obviously want to be alone now and I'd respect that and move onto the next older guy who does want my time, whats the problem

>>84050250
The foids must burn

>>84048156
Jews killed birthrates with various methods. Women being able to work or vote isn't enough on it's own.

>>84049856
>>84050051
>>84050250
Unfortunately this is happening on both sides. It seems so prevalent now because of the internet i think. It is a dissatisfaction factory.

>>84048156
Sorta. There is no putting the toothpaste back in the tube with gender equity.
However, you can reverse the damage using their own logic against them.
>End female hiring quotas and tax incentives.
>Return Rape and Sexual harassment to their original definitions
>get rid of social welfare for single mothers and only give benefits to married mothers
>No alimony
>Custody defaults to husbands siting studies of single father households over single mothers
>Manditory minimums when women commit a crime.

Basically all incentives purposely push women away from being mothers.
All incentives to give women more free shit and assistance fail because women paradoxically will choose to not have kids.
Women think they have earned everything in life. In reality they are tolerated as pity charity programs that rely on fear of lawsuits to gain leverage.
Take that away, and suddenly women change their tune

>>84048156
wouldn't it be easier to simply disallow divorces?

>>84051377
You also need to remove child support and welfare for single mothers.

>>84051385
>single mothers
widows you mean? divorce not being an option would obviously reduce single parents numbers a lot

>>84048912

A long time ago someone probably made such warnings in some place like Afghanistan before people like the Taliban ever existed.

Back then the women probably also just shot the messenger instead of heeding him.

There must be some sort of German or Greek word for people who purposely pretend to confuse a prediction with an aspiration just for spite.

Right now we are Cassandra, blessed by the gods with prophecy but cursed with incredulity.

But it's okay, fuck the future and everyone in it. Keep calling us names. Feel justified. That's all that matters.