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Why do women get so upset when a man criticizes an entirely different woman's looks?
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>>84049295
My guess is it's because the criticized woman is attractive, so the fact he ranks her as mediocre makes this other woman feel like she's by implication being ranked as unattractive, because she sees herself as less attractive than the woman being criticized.
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She's triggered because the 5/10 is better looking than her because the 5/10 is a hot teenage athlete and she's never going to be that young and desirable ever again. Thus the thought of this more attractive woman being mid disturbs her ego deeply, especially since the tweet suggests the 5/10 is a temporary partner unfit for long term investment. It's like a triple insult to the value of an observing femoid so she goes into attack mode
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>>84049304
5/10 isn't mediocre, learn what words mean.
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>>84049295
Women are a collective hivemind
If you made it out of middle school without figuring that out then you're cooked.
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>>84049304
It's not nearly this logical. When they see a man evaluating a woman at all by any measure rather than blindly worshipping her, they seethe because they don't want men to select.
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>>84049407
I struggle to understand what you mean. How is 5/10 not mediocre? In my understanding, mediocre means "of ordinary or undistinguished quality". So on a decile scale it would be at or close to the mid-point, assuming symmetric attractiveness distribution where the mean is close to the mode, which is how men tend to rate women based on dating app data. What the do you think "mediocre" means?
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You're a pathetic normalnigger if you are still on the Alysa train
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I'm loling at all the theories from the basement itt
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>>84049304
that's exactly it. when ranking women like this they will immediately compare their appearance to the girl being ranked to judge what their own rating is. if this woman is beautiful but only 5/10 and not worth settling for, and if she is less beautiful than her, she assesses her value as being astronomically low. the generalization of men here further means that she thinks all men are thinking this and judging her appearance this way when she goes out which makes her paranoid and disdainful of them.

on a more altruistic note, she might just find it disgusting that a very young olympic athlete is being assessed this way and knows that someone calling her a 5/10 when the internet is flooded with her worship is just ragebaiting women like her and signaling to other men and sees this as pathetic.

>>84049428
they don't want to see men evaluate a woman in depth because it makes them feel scrutinized. men are the same way. you could write this sentence with the genders flipped and it would be equally as true.

>>84049451
mediocre implies a subpar product. a 5/10 is the absolute middle. sub-5 would be mediocre. 5 is average. above 5 is preferable and is where most men start, 8/10 or above is what they want. nobody can decide what a 5 is for a woman which fucks the whole system. there was a chart posted all the time about how 10/10s don't actually exist and scaling based on physical repulsiveness and attractiveness rather than adjusting for outliers by rejecting them as most people do. bet i can find it quick.
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>>84049295
Because she's even less attractive than the one being criticized and the criticism makes her feel bad

>>84049304
Bingo
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>>84049665
that took longer than it should have from zoomers flooding results with tiktok screenshots.
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>>84049295
to me she is a 8/10, i find her cute
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>>84049665
>mediocre implies a subpar product
I don't know who told you that this is what "mediocre" means, but this is incorrect. Maybe be less gung ho about voicing disagreements, if you then proceed to just be wrong about it.
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>>84049685
going by that list she's a solid 6.5 to maybe 7 even depending on angle
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>>84049700
>image.
>>84049807
yeah, she's a pretty girl. artificially reducing the rating of attractive women automatically lowers the ratings of uglier women which is why they get defensive. attractive women, assuming they aren't dysmorphic, aren't bothered by this because they know it's a troll.
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>>84049295
Who cares? Women are the animals of the two sexes. Even a dog's opinion has infinitely more value.
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>>84049838
Mediocre has always meant average, stop cherrypicking flimsy definitional overlaps kid
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She's a 5, the outrage is a result of hoeflation, open and shut case, women are trying to push this narrative that ugly women are actually hot to increase their relative SMV compared to men, it's a war of attrition and if they manage to lock in the idea that this mid bitch is actually hot that's just another wave hitting the beach of male resolve
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>>84049838
>>image.
>AI overview
AI overview isn't a credible source, retard. It makes shit up all the time. Let's look at some dictionary definitions:
>Merriam Webster
"of moderate or low quality, value, ability, or performance : ordinary, so-so"
source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mediocre
Okay, seems to partially agree with you, that the span of what mediocre means can include that which is of lower quality. However, also underlines that middle-of-the-road quality is also what the word can refer to.
>Oxford English Dictionary
"Of middling quality; neither bad nor good..."
source: https://www.oed.com/search/dictionary/?scope=Entries&q=mediocre
Disagrees with you.
>The Free Dictionary
"Of ordinary or undistinguished quality. See Synonyms at average."
source: https://www.thefreedictionary.com/mediocre
Disagrees with you.
>Cambridge Dictionary
"not very good"
source: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/mediocre
Slightly negative connotation. I'll give you that it mildly agrees with you.

I can understand why a semantic disagreement has arisen, because it seems that people both use the word to describe things that are perceived as of average quality, but also use it disparagingly to indicate that something is of substandard quality. However, I hope you can see that my original usage wasn't incorrect given the breadth of the word's usage.
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>>84049965
The only reason it has a negative connotation is because people associate average with bad, hence the post hoc additions that ascribe negativity to the word, it's always meant average and that's all it'll ever mean, stop conceding points to retards this is how the integrity of language degrades
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>>84049870
Mediocre definitely doesn't mean average in cultural consciousness. It means subpar
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>>84050170
What 'cultural consciousness'? You mean those retards on social media who pretend that words mean something other than the established definition so they can manipulate the shit out of other retards? Lol.
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>>84049295
It's like when women say chadlite actors are average. You seem incredibly entitled to presume she's even close to your league, especially when we know these guys are always fat ugly NEETs.
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>>84049870
kid?
>>84049965
i appreciate that you listed things that agreed, partially agreed, and disagreed with me. that shows intellectual honesty. i think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. my larger point wasn't about a specific mediocre vs subpar but about how the concept of an average attractiveness seems to genuinely confuse many people and a general response to op's query about this woman's reaction and how women process this sort of statement.

>AI overview isn't a credible source, retard. It makes shit up all the time.
>I can understand why a semantic disagreement has arisen, because it seems that people both use the word to describe things that are perceived as of average quality, but also use it disparagingly to indicate that something is of substandard quality. However, I hope you can see that my original usage wasn't incorrect given the breadth of the word's usage.

the contrast in tone between these lines is genuinely amusing. i like you. thank you for citing your sources, and i agree that the terminology is blurred.
>>84050141
language is living and fluid, it changes based on usage rather than inscribed meaning. see: >>84050170
however that doesn't mean it isn't annoying or indicative of a slide in lexical integrity, as you state. this is a fundamental problem in linguistics with staunchly opposed perspectives as seen itt. when a typical person describes something as 'mediocre', they rarely mean 'average'. it has negative connotations and, at best, means 'eh, nothing to write home about'.

none of this is related to whether alysa liu is bangable with or without her skunk hairdo though.
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>>84049295
crazy how many retards still fall for engagement bait like this
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>>84050223
That skating chick is a 7/10 when you consider her absolutely banging thighs and ass, fucking her from behind would be heavenly.
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>>84050170
Haha, nice try but no.
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needing and deserving aren't the same thing. she's illiterate.
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if she's more attractive and you criticize her she's only defending her place in the hierarchy
if she's less attractive and you criticize her she's only preventing the hierarchy from being challenged
either way it's about power
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opinions from black females literally mean nothing. i couldnt care less
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Women think any comment on a woman's appearance that is not disingenuous flattery is objectification and misogyny and that women need to come together to defend each other from the nasty men. The thing is women are constantly bitching on each other for their fashion choices and judging men, calling them "creepy", it is not really about morality just some kind of tribalism.

It is like hens in the chicken coop pecking at each others' eyes, those high on the pecking order can bitch and say mean nasty horrible things, those low down have to do nothing but flatter. The truth gets lost in this, which is why it is so difficult to have a meaningful conversation with a woman, either she views you as being on the bottom and must never be the bringer of bad news or you are Chad who can do no wrong.

Literally everything is gradated based on shitass fucking normy "social status" and the person speaking it rather than whether something is actually true or not. It is why you end up with "fat acceptance" and women getting completely bog'd and looking like someone threw a beehive at them, because not even their friends will take them aside and say "you have an eating disorder and might suffer from heart disease and joint pain later in life unless you change your diet". I don't think women really can be friends to the point they have that level of honesty.
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Are you guys really so autistic that you can't see how that comment is incredibly rude towards Alysa?
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>>84049295
Because it's the only power women wield. Take that away and they are useless and have to actually put effort into things.
Even worse is they try and use solidarity to get everyone to behave the same because in their minds if they all collectively shame men it will make men do what they want.
This tactic has worked for a while because it wasn't so bad, but it's reached a breaking point for 3 reasons.
>1. They are now leaving evidence they acted this way, where as before when they had a change of heart they couldn't have accountability thrown in their face.
>2. They pushed men too far and men have quietly withdrawn.
>3. There is no solidarity amongst women. They are back stabbers who are incapable of working together.
I don't have solutions to the Gender war. Men have tried to end it multiple times only for women to push further. Men could fully surrender and women would get upset and still blame men. Men could all kill themselves and women would get upset for men abandoning them.
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>>84049304
Yes, she knows she is less attractive than that woman, so if she is a 5/10 then she must herself be a butt ugly mongrel. Everything with women(and antisocial men) comes down to artificially elevating themselves through limiting or tearing others down
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>>84049295
By 5/10, they meant "commonly occuring", not necessarily bad. When you went to high school and college, this was the average looking foid. It wasn't meant to be an insult, just that her beauty doesn't warrant five million simps.

>Men deserve nothing.
She said sitting atop a mountain of comfort and luxury provided to her by men. Maybe foids deserve nothing by default and need to earn their access to modern stuff. If only to instill some self-awareness and gratitude instead of hubris and ignorance.
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>>84049407
>mediocre
>Of a middle quality; of but a moderate or low degree of excellence; indifferent; ordinary.
>5/10

you bozo 5/10 is by definition mediocre; not great not terrible.
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>>84049685
nigga why do half the people 7 and above look like children. freaky ahh post.
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>>84050228
I say kid because only a kid would be this stupid, sorry for giving you the benefit of the doubt
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>>84050228
>MUH LANGUAGE EVOLVES BRUH, WE'RE THE KIDS OF AMERICA HEYO AND WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE WORLD
Kill yourself
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>>84050228
>when a typical person describes something as 'mediocre', they rarely mean 'average'.
No, they mean average, they're just using average as an insult, this is fairly simple
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>>84049893
She is above 5 by a good margin. She has an olympian's body, ridiculous work ethic, qt face, above average charm, nice even teeth and a quirky vibe. She's a 7, maybe 8 if you got a thing for Asians. A 5 is some forgettable foid you passed in the grocery store without giving a second glance.
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>>84051505
>including variables that don't pertain to raw facial attractiveness
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>>84051505
She's 4/10 at best, she's only treated as a 5 because she's famous.
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>>84049295
They see themselves as less attractive than her so take it as a personal attack
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>>84050223
She has a 5/10 face at best. She's being haloed by makeup and fame.
>these guys are fat ugly NEETs
I'm only one of those and I'm not fat nor ugly.
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>>84051505
>some forgettable foid you passed in the grocery store without giving a second glance
i.e. exactly what she would be without her fame.
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>>84052148
Holy kek, literally a chromosome away from being a Rehab room/Hat Flying subscriber.
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>>84049838
>Dictionary in your pic saying it means moderate quality
>Cambridge dictionary says it means average
>Use some bullshit AI dreamt up instead as some gotcha
Are you genuinely fucking retarded or just pretending to be?
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>>84052180
Eh. I have a very good face and I've been in the blackpill space for years. Meanwhile I know ugly and short guys with girlfriends. Now are their girlfriends attractive? That's another question.
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>>84052200
You need a combo of face and height to get by in the current dating market.
>Meanwhile I know ugly and short guys with girlfriends
Yeah but you don't know what their relationships are like. I guarantee their gfs are always pissy behind closed doors cause they had to settle for not Chad and they probably put out once a year if the guy is lucky.
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>>84052230
>you need a combo of face and height
I mean yeah to an extent. My height is literally 50th percentile lol, I don't think that's my problem. I'm just a mentalcel.
>Yeah but you don't know what their relationships are like
I think fine desu. I have a 5'7" friend who's probably a 7/10 and every girl he gets with is also a 7. They seem to be genuinely attracted to him. For long term relationships your looksmatch is very attainable. Not on the apps.
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The people that find Alyssa attractive are the same ones into belle delphine. I have various interests but girls like delphine are not one of them. They're not sexually attractive, and they're also not socially attractive. By that I mean, I find slam pigs and big titty giant asses hot, but I would never publicly date a woman like that. Now in pic related, this is a woman that hits both the sexual and social points. A girl I could show to my mom.

I would not show Alysa to my mom. Besides being an Olympic skater she doesn't have anything going for her. My wife is an orchestral musician, which is far more impressive and interesting to me.
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>>84049311
This. Female jealousy and insecurity strikes again.
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>>84052248
What country and state/province are you in?
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>>84049311
>Teenage

lmao this explains so much
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>>84052148
>she looks better with makeup
No shit sherlock. Also, post face
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>>84052342
USA, east coast.
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>>84052281
IRL I keep noticing the dudes who like the skater girl are fat weeb types.
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>>84049295
The attention is going to make her crazy just watch it always does
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>>84052519
I think the term is "manic pixie dreamgirl" look.
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>>84052554
I haven't heard that term in a long time... but it's the same principal.
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>>84049311
isn't she 20?
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>>84049304
As a woman this is true

I'm a brown latina femcel and ugly so I had to mute Alysa Liu's name because the 5/10 posts made me want to slit my wrists
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>>84052648
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Pathetic
Bwhahahahahahahahaha.
I just can't... bwhahahahahahaha.
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>>84052648
Whenever I find out a woman is latina its a massive fucking turnoff. Seems the only guys into them are also into BRAPS and refried beans and other gross shit. Barely above jeets.
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>>84052681
Dudes are into non-Whites are just insecure and hoping the non-White girls standards are low enough to have them.
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>>84052648
I'm sorry that you had to go through this. I wish I could do something to make people who feel bad about themselves because of discourse about attractiveness feel better, but I can't. I can just say I feel for you.
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>>84052648
She just is a 5/10 though. You're probably about as good looking as her honestly.
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>>84049295
Why is this dude making a passive aggressive and sexually charged comment about a random Olympian? Seems narcissistic and kinda sociopathic to be passive aggressive while yearn posting
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>>84049295
>woman falls for the most obvious rage ait that has been
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>>84052665
I'm gonna pin your eyes open and slit my wrists in your eyes so the blood gets in it
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>>84049462
Back tattoo is hot, ngl
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>>84049304
>she sees herself as less attractive than the woman being criticized
and she's correct
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>>84051087
it's an old post.
>>84051247
thumbs up
>>84051256
yes, that is how language works. kids of america is a fun song. thumbs up x2
>>84051272
and yet this is not how language works. thumbs down
>>84052148
is that old? she looks much younger there. like preteen.
>>84052183
thumbs up x3, are you having fun with this
>>84052281
we should all be so lucky
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>>84049295
because shes beautiful and moids insult beautiful girls to feel better about their own pathetic existence, which they deserve to be shamed for
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>>84049685
this makes me wanna post myself and see how robots rank me ngl
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>>84053566
I do not care what nasty old foid hags have to say

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