My parents have already know that for a long time. If that ever happens it will be a pleasant surprise for them, Reiposter.

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>>84049405
I could have been in a relationship with women, but the risk factor is much too high. I don't necessarily ask for a multitude of benefits, just stability, but I feel like it's a daily psychological struggle to imagine scenarios that could go wrong because of a single dissatisfaction on her part. Women today want a finished product (to consume, not something that needs to be polished. Because of this, I prefer to remain a child with my vidya forever detached from all worries

I implied to my mother i was asexual when i was 16 because i knew my fate.

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>>84049489
I think my parents know but are still holding out hope. Poor mom and dad. Still, they brought me into this world and I don't owe them this. I owe them a lot for the love they poured into me and I try to give it back as much as possible. But I don't owe them this.
>>84049515
Being in relationships have hardened my resolve to just leave it alone. It was absolute mental torture and the breakups were brutal on me. I don't need that in my life ever again. The negatives outweigh the positives for me. I have to look aftet myself and what's right for me, rather than what is traditionaly expected.
>>84049522
But you're not really one?

>>84049553
No i'm just autistic and realistic and didn't want her to think she had failed in some way. She thinks that alot. She has other kids, they have all had kids.

>>84049553
>I think my parents know but are still holding out hope. Poor mom and dad. Still, they brought me into this world and I don't owe them this. I owe them a lot for the love they poured into me and I try to give it back as much as possible. But I don't owe them this.
I told my parents myself when mom asked me "when are you going to get yourself a girl". I answered her "probably never, I am not good at talking with girls".
I don't owe them this either, but that's life and I don't like making promises I can't keep.
But despite that I didn't surrender to the idea of being alone forever and I am working on getting better.

>>84049515
You and me, we think alike.

Part of me can't completely make peace with that. I wanted to have a family, break the generational trauma
But that's not happening I'm ugly, short, poor, diseased, autistic.
That being said it really is for the best, I have multiple diseases. I'm a genetical defect that only deserves to disappear

>>84049405
Just tell them that outright so they shut up about it. Why are you faggots grown adults and still can't be straightforward with your own god damn parents about your life. Just say "I gave up on relationships and I won't have a family stop talking about it". It's no wonder so many of you are afraid of women and perpetual losers when you can't even speak up and be honest to the people you are most familiar with in your entire life. If you can't even talk back to your own mother don't be surprised you stand no chance in society.

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>>84049573
The line ends with me, in my case. I'm very sorry, but that happens every day and 1000's of family lineages cease. It's their tragedy. But if they really love me amd want me to be happy, they won't get so torn up about it. But we all know people never have kids for the kids's sake but for their own egoic fullfilment. No ammount of love and effort parent pour into a child changes that.
>>84049630
I don't want strife in the house. Let them live in lala land as long as possible as far as I'm concerned.

>>84049630
There is no reason to hurt my mother. It is better she thinks i am a content asexual. What will it do to tell her differently? Cry all night.

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>>84049630
Yes, be a confrontational nigger while living on someone else's dime, causing conflicts when you don't contribute much to the household is a really fucking fantastic idea and cannot possibly have any consequences in the long-term.

my mother sees me as an extension of herself and cannot conceptualize other people don't want children solely as validation machines and dolls. depriving her of a grandchild to do that to seems like a wise idea given her general behavior. all she does is pass down the trauma her mother gave her and each mother before them while my father did the same with his entire family. i want to break the cycle but fear ingrained habits to stress and fundamental personality traits would make me unintentionally repeat it. they had the same thoughts about being better than their parents, i assume, as do most people in this situation. it seems far more ethical for me to refuse to reproduce and focus nurturing and creative efforts elsewhere for the sake of everyone involved. if that makes anyone angry, that's their business.

it's a shame. i did want to mother a son or preferably a daughter. i've always wanted daughters to encourage and help grow. imagining my hypothetical husband's face on the birth of our child brings tears to my eyes because of how deeply it would have moved him and the existential gravity of bringing a new life into this world and all that entails. thinking of past loves with their children makes me sentimental as well. i hope they're happy. i can think of one in particular whom i know must be an excellent father. being a father and husband is what he always wanted.

every partner has immediately tried to get me to marry and have their children - i've been fighting this since the age of majority and warning them about the high probability of infertility anyway. it wouldn't seem right to lead a man on in that scenario and waste his time just as it wouldn't end well should he force me into pregnancy.

but, reiposter, you can express nurturing behavior even without biological offspring of your own. it only requires protecting and encouraging others - even animals, the elderly, or strangers - and a genuine selfless desire for their well-being.

>>84049787
I find it unfortunate that those most aware of cycles of abuse are the least likely to reproduce and break it. It's a strange twist of fate that the kindest and most generous are so intent on preventing these cycles that they avoid even the risk of repetition, while those who give no consideration at all are exponentially creating more.
I wish the positions reversed and the virtuous cycle exponential instead. But it's not a burden i could take on myself, or force upon another.

>>84049405
I have romantic delusions but I know they are delusions and I know I will never have a family of my own.

>>84049405
They keep asking if I'm gay

>>84049405
just know that you're lucky that your family cares about you enough to bother you about something like that. i know that doesn't really help but i hope it changes your perspective and maybe makes you feel better

When my sister had a baby my retarded boomer cunt mother started negging me about not having a family yet, so I tried explaining to her that she would've gotten her wish if she made better life decisions during my childhood but for some reason she just refuses to understand that.

>>84049869
yeah, that's one of the profound tragedies of life, isn't it? people who try to be good or at least better than the norm are constantly auditing their behavior and punishing themselves for moral standards no one else holds themselves to. meanwhile those who completely lack any not only happily proceed throughout life without this constant self-doubt and self-mortification but succeed precisely because of it. a core irony of the human condition: being humane is often incompatible with human survival.

but then as stated i assume many people think similarly before they have children or are in other scenarios in which their abstract values are stress-tested. everyone in my family thinks they are better than their parents were to them, and in some regards they are correct. in others they are very, very wrong. i have enough problems with asocial behavior and interpersonal social friction already without bringing an innocent child into the mix. every child should be fully wanted and given the protection, love, and attention they deserve to grow into healthy human beings. i don't know if this has ever been true for a single child.

you know what hurts me? being out in public and waving/smiling to a child or otherwise being nice to them and having a positive interaction before, inevitably, their mother (and it is always a mother) comes over to scream at them to obey her/shut up/leave/leave that woman alone and stop bothering her. you can feel the contempt in their voice and word choice even without seeing the explicit glares, and any attempts to convey that they weren't bothering you at all makes them even angrier. i know they take it out on them later out of a jealous narcissistic rage for "making them look bad". that's exactly how my family was. and there's nothing you can do to prevent it from happening while every momentary act of compassion only makes it worse. all you can do is tell them that they're strong and worthy no matter what they say.

>>84050114
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>>84049405
Yeah my mom always says shit like "when you have kids one day," as if that's ever going to happen lol

>>84050114
What you describe sounds more like a symptom of where you live than anything. It doesn't happen here at all that you see people often shouting at children. For good or for bad. Children are usually a cause for social interaction if anything and if somebody's child takes a liking to you then you'll often be dragged into a 30 minute conversation with the parent.

>>84050126
CRAAAAAWLING INNNNNNN MY SKIIIIIIIIIIN. THESE WOOOOOOOOUNDS THEY WILLLLLLLL NOT HEEEEEEEEEAL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0

>>84050470
yeah, i live in a high crime and high poverty area. you mostly see this with young black mothers screaming at their daughters when they have multiple children, but it leaks out into other areas and isn't universal. they always really hate the daughters talking to me specifically and only ever start getting aggressive when i've been smiled and mimed excitement at whatever the smiling little girl shows me. they're never aggressive at ME though which would make sense if they thought i was a predator, they take it out on their kids and scream about how they're embarassing them/bothering me and directly insult whatever the child was proud of. the whole "you think you're so cute/smart but you're fucking not, idiot" type additude but filtered in the passive aggressive way you'd talk to a child that shows they're threatened that they were getting positive attention that wasn't filtered through them. their point is to break their child's smile, and it kills me to see it happen when it does because if they're comfortable doing this in public they're doing far worse behind closed doors, knowing no one will stop them in either scenario. cps is considered worse here as it's directly being sold into sex trafficking or child abuse so a child reporting any of this is told to suck it up until their parents have no legal control over them and they can leave.

the way their faces drop when being snapped at and publicly verbally degraded... and the way they always turn back and give a soft, sad smile and wave goodbye when they're being dragged by the hand out of the store with a stern LET'S GO and a rush out... there's no other word for it than heart-breaking. i've had to leave places right after to cry over this before. children should be wanted. this is what you end up with otherwise, and no one wins. the child least of all.

>>84050520
>>84050470
this isn't universal by the way, i have plenty of interactions where waving and interacting with kids produces the conversation you're talking about. most people assume i'm a mother or a teacher of some sort, especially with small children. there was a really nice interaction at a bowling alley with a friend where a little girl was trying bowling with the bumpers up and i started saying "wow!" and "good job!" and clapping when she threw it. little kids thrive off encouragement like that, and it always ends up with them begging their mothers or you directly to watch them do it over and over. they're so proud, and so are their mothers who start talking about it. that little girl came up and hugged me during it too. another little girl at a store i was working retail at begged me to fix her little puffy coat (during black friday rush!) and started telling me all about bluey. another at an international market started babbling to me in what i assume was korean while holding out what looked like some sort of fruit-shaped candy to show and tell. parents always love these sort of things as well as smiling with a little wave, stooping to their level to look them in the face and standing back so they can be comfortable, and playing peekaboo with your hands when a baby stares at you until they start giggling.

i love these sort of interactions, same with interacting with pets, helping the elderly and disabled/anyone who asks, striking up convos with service workers acknowledging how absurd the entire retail and food service situation is before loudly complimenting their performance by name and giving them large tips when their bosses come over, keying in to what people are wearing to ask them relevant questions based on whatever media it references, giving random strangers compliments, picking up and straightening the things people leave lying around. i like learning people's names and preferences and making them feel seen.

but the children haunt me.

>>84050520
>cps is considered worse here as it's directly being sold into sex trafficking or child abuse so a child reporting any of this is told to suck it up until their parents have no legal control over them and they can leave.
What?
You should move if you can i think. There's no sense staying in a place so horrible.