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>>84050402
And why are women so afraid to fight? Aren't they equal?

>>84050409
Idgi either, at least they have a chance to defend themselves if invaded.

No pussy, no dying for gynozog

>>84050402
>afraid
There are a number of legitimate reasons to be afraid and none of them make you less masculine.
But i see you only wish to patronize them into signing up for the military, it won't work. 25% of every dollar goes to the military. If you haven't figured out how to bomb them to oblivion and send in robots... that's your problem.

Nobody is fighting some bullshit war while the rich stay cozy in their homes.

>>84050402
If there is a war to fight, it's the citizenry against the world leaders so keen to fight and so unable to resolve their bullshit.
Xi, Donald, Keir, etc.
Think about it. Either die in the field fighting for your captors or die fighting your captors, which makes more sense?
This current class of world leaders are woefully obsolete.

Men 99.9% of the time:
>UGHH I wish I could live in the olden days where men were men and I could go fight in a war with my homies for my countries and even die a noble death
Men when shit gets real:
>I-I'm just a boy

>>84050465
Wtf do you want, government-assigned gfs?

>>84050529
Thats just women and girlboss equality though

>>84050541
That would be better than whatever I have now which is nothing

we are finally becoming advanced enough as a specied that tribal monkey brain "WHAT'S WRONG PUSSY ARE YOU AFRAID" has stopped working.

Nobody wants to die for their country when they know their country is run by malignant narcissistic pedophilic elites and nobody will remember or respect their "heroic" loss of life, just shitpost on twitter about it. There's nothing to fucking gain.

>>84050529
Women want men to go to war but made the traditional benefits of war illegal, rape and pillage even a little bit and foids want you court marshalled and sent to Geneva. If you gave men the right to pick 1 free wife from the citizenery without her choice I could see at least 1/4 men instantly signing up.

>>84050529
>Men is one person
In the actual old days you'd fight and get in return a piece of land, women, better quality of life, peace, actual change in politics, laws, etc., or you would die and fuck your people over and get conquered. That's the kind of war I'd immediately sign up to. Modern wars are meaningless, just people dying for no proper reason like the cattle we are.

>>84050402
I need the freedom to do terrible war crimes but modern warfare is all drone based war of attrition nonsense. It's sad and depressing how glory has been taken out of the battlefield. Unfortunately I have to stick to call of duty for my simulated war experience.

Real men realize that fighting for your country is based because it's free respect and gibs for the rest of your life, regardless of motivation or results. Imagine not enabling cheats on your one shot at life.
>but wahh id rather compete fairly
Loser mentality.

>>84050621
I'm too old and autistic anyway. Most of us here wouldn't pass and the others shouldn't be trusted so i don't know who you are preaching to.

>>84050621
>gibs for the rest of your life,
We have played this again and again and again and again. Every single conscription has produced terrible post-war benefits and there is no integration into civilian life. You do the shit you were forced to do and then they do not give a single shit about you the moment you get given your discharge papers

>>84050621
>spend four years watching your friends get turned to paste by drones at every single hour of the day
>your PTSD is not service related :)
Calling it

>>84050529
Moids really are pathetic

>>84050574
Yeah because raping women is horrific, and a war crime. If 1/4 of men are ok with rape (its actually 95%), then that just proves war is necessary to keep rapist men in line

>>84050693
>its actually 95%
Sauce

>>84050693
>raping women is horrific, and a war crime
>war is necessary to keep
You're not only retarded but if you genuinely believe war is ok and that "criminalizing" acts in war has any effect then you deserve to be sent to the front lines.
But i don't believe you believe what you're saying. The most efficient use for rapist men is human experimentation.

>>84050529
The wars people would rather fight in were centuries ago, when people used swords and shields. No one wants to be in a modern war where you get annihilated by enemies you can't even see.

>>84050640
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>>84050644
I'm at my national defence uni. I'm war-time placed in national security analysis. I wouldn't even have to step foot in a combat zone, but still get glazed socially and economic benefits (pension, perma-discounts etc).

I could give less of a fuck about the wartime success of my country. This is simply about farming free benefits at no cost and people treat you very well for it.

>>84050693
>raping women is horrific
Appeal to emotion
>and a war crime
War crimes are only war crimes if the losing country does it
>If 1/4 of men are ok with rape then...war is necessary to keep rapist men in line
Nonsequitor

>>84050708
95% of men that were surveyed said they'd prefer a woman to be age 18. Thats borderline rape, some even said 16

>>84050758
>18 is rape
You overplayed your hand with this one

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>>84050758
semi-good trolling

>>84050402
I'd be more willing if society had treated me better. let the normal people do it

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>>84050777
...and good trips

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>>84050730
Women all want to benfit from the pros of toxic masculinity whilst simultaneously avoiding the cons of toxic masculinity, a great example are blood diamonds, women will call you a cheap poorfag if you buy them a synthetic diamond and have zero issue with the very likely fact that a worthless shiny rock they wear for vanity purposes and flexing on other foids was created through the exploitation of starving niglets in war zones then having a equally worthless lab grown, yet will simultaneously tell your it's everyone's responsibility to pay more taxes to lift up those same workers they actively exploit.

This is the fundamental proplem with demanding that men fufil their traditional male social roles whilst removing all the incentives to take on those risks, the state will literally demand you commit murder and warcrimes so that rich old Jewish men can rape eastern European whores, but God forbid you do a little raping yourself, I personally believe in equality so I think foids either do a draft like men and then get rights, and also do a little raping, or just accept ther traditional gender roles, there should also be a femboy option to avoid the draft where you have to raise orphans and get fucked by a GI fag too, see now we have true equality.

>>84050402
Normie men have something to lose, unlike an /r9k/ regular

>>84050574
Because raping women is the most disgusting thing in existence.
Nothing wrong with killing off excess males on the other hand.
Most men have litteraly no value and are just wasted biomass, dying in wars is the best thing that could happen to uggos/incels.

>>84051003
Too obvious my negro

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Be a badass and go die for your country, goyim.

>>84051003
Childless 30 year old hags are equally worthless as surplus men, you aren't more resourceful or tax generating citizens, bioholes activitly use up more taxes and social programs then they generate to the state or corporations, men are better then women at everything, for example cooking or fashion would be considered the domain of bioholes yet even in these categories men are superior, the one thing men can do is give birth and by virtue of women quiting literally the only thing they can do and men can't they will be inevitably be replaced by technology (created by men)

Also Isn't it ironic how bioholes will activitly demand you disregard someone else's bodily autonomy and murder them, but somehow using her holes for a few minutes is off limits?

>>84051057
Theyre not. Women have inherent values. Moids dont. Uggos and incels are a net drain. Sending them to war is just speeding off natural selection.

>>84050402
I can't talk for others but for me my country simply isn't worth fighting for anymore. Too many shitskins and their enablers, simple as. The real enemy is domestic, and has been for decades already.

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>>84051110
Foids have reached peak holeflation, you are inhetently worth 400bux at best considering that the price of prime pristine untouched virgin pussy, the moment men create synthetic wombs it's over for women.

>>84051151
That means we wont need scrotes anymore and can finally get rid of moids just like in the SCUM manifesto.
Killing moids litteraly solves most of the worlds issues

>>84050402
>why the fuck would I fight for a borderless country who is ruled by pedophiles cannibals and who is full of shitskins?

>>84050402
why would i fight for zog lmao

>>84051184
>>84051188
Because its your litteral duty as a man.
Also
>moids keep fanticizing about le elic return to tradition
>refuse to act traditional and go fights wars like their grandparents did

>>84051174
Foids can't mange to even kill themselves considering the suicide attempt to succees ratio, the gender that screams and has a mental break down when they see a spider or a rat can't even wage war with their own mental issues much less men that have fought wars since before recorded history. The only thing foids had on their side was simps and whitknights but even they are giving up on bioholes. Once ai gfs become cheaply accessible and available to the average man will be the beginning of humanities golden age in which we leave behind terra and colonize new worlds without bioholes

>>84051197
And what are your duties as a woman?
>inb4 women have no duties

>>84051197
>Because its your litteral duty as a man.
again, why would I fight for my country when the border are wide open for the ennemies?

>>84050529
There used to be something to fight for. Your home, family or whatever.
I'm not talking about the 1500's or some shit, more like during the ww1/ww2 era. That's why people fought so hard back then.
Now we fight for perpetual wage slavery and pedophile leaders so that our economic zone of a "nation" may exist another decade.
Shockingly, nobody want to die for this shit.

>>84050595
You are still idealizing past wars, meaning you have learned nothing.
You think the bulk of soldiers in ancient warfare would get rewards and spoils? Don't be so uneducated. They were promised rewards and got nothing but blood

>>84050927
Now flip the shirts around and you have incel males arguments

>>84050927
Nice schitzo rant, you can recite it when being drafted

>>84051240
It's disappointing they don't even know the basics.
>Cavalry - Infantry - Cavalry
>Cavalry - Infantry - Cavalry

Cavalry are knights and lords, they have high mobility and can cut in and out of infantry and each other. They have high value and can be ransomed if living.
Infantry are peasants, they have no mobility and are suffocating in the press and the mud. They have no value and no escape.

>>84050402
The golem brainwashing is now being rolled out lol

>>84050529
Fuck you faggot. WW2, Korean war, Vietnam war, all of those veterans got to take home trophies. They brought back machine guns and wives. Machine guns them and their kids then made illegal FUCK YOU

>>84051246
The Ukraine war has demonstrated that men continue to be held to their traditional societal obligations while women are held to absolutely zero standards, men have answered the call towards their civic duties volunteerily or by force while women haven't done either, the only thing they've done is proceed to do humanities oldest profession in western Europe. either we have equal rights or don't. It's really that simple.

>>84051246
I'm glad that foids don't even pretend anymore to support equality, they are saving men at least a decade before they become aware of the inherently hypocritical nature of women and the fact that they have absolutely zero reason to support equality, the must brutal blackpill trvth nukes come from directly interacting with bioholes.

>>84051310
Mind you they had to sneak the guns back home, so i'm sure if the big one part three happened the scale would be so large it would be easier for you to sneak back home a enemy pistol

>>84050541
Conscripting women into meat grinder for two world wars.

>>84050693
Crimes are social construct
Conscription is a slavery BTW

>>84051110
>Women have inherent values.
As holes for sex

>>84050402
Fight for who? Gypsy pedophiles? I can't blame 'em. But it's too late for them, they're fucked so they might get blown to pieces.

>>84050541
That would be a good start.
Go get the bear to die so Iranian foids can have abortions if you don't like the deal.

>>84050402
I feel like going to war walking with a spear would be funnier than just dying yo a flying bullet but that's just my opinion

>>84050402
the second someone puts a gun in my hand i'm turning it on myself and anyone who tries to stop me and i'll make sure to tell them too. i dont want to die a murderer but i'm not above it

>>84050529
low IQ ragebait

>>84051430
that is still a (their only) legitimate value

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>>84051197
>>84050693
>>84051174
>it doesnt know
lol the only world war alphies will be fighting is against YOU

>>84050402
why are "women" so afraid of the equality they go so feral demanding?

>>84050402
>why are men afraid to get shot at and die in a foreign country
It's a mystery op.

leave the world to all it's sin & hate - find another world where freedom waits

>>84050402
theyre going to federally legalize weed so that pissing hot doesn't disqualify you from service anymore

get your legs blown off for epstein's clients and roasties who don't even consider you human? count me in

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>>84050402
Fight for what, exactly? You retards will make the most fucking random false equivalence and pretend you have a "gotcha."

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>>84054002
fr man,i bet if we asked the same question back in ww2, we would still have the same answer regardless the fact that this is true or not

>all these hateful epstein drones proving why we would be better off without most men

>>84050573
this is the only true answer. anyone who encourages you to fight in a war just sees you as an undesirable goy.

>>84050402
What would they be fighting for?

>>84050402
bc goverment failed to brainwash them like their ancestors. dying for jews wont bring any benefit to them or their families. many zoomers dont have families anyway. look at ukranian wasteland footage from FPV drones, chances of making alive out of it is pretty slim. and for what? so some random twitter user would post memes with your corpse pics lol

>>84051240
who do you think works the land? it's the peasant farmers, dumbass

>>84050402
im not saying please i will not be drafted
i will sooner shoot my commanders

>>84050402
why would I fight for a country that gives me no pussy

>gen z has a simple msg when it comes to wars:
>fuck jews

>>84050402
>Why are "women" so afraid to cook these days?

>>84050402
They are redpilled on not wanting to be zog puppets dying for isreal

>>84051110
Your inherent value is being a walking pussy with a womb and you wont even use it you useless cunt.

>>84051174
>get rid of moids just like in the SCUM manifesto.
You won't do shit.

>>84054270
Women and minorities

I support the troops when they frag their officers

generation z developed natural immunity to propaganda due to a decade of targeted ads.
No soldier actually being used as a an age of empires NPC, all the value is in comraderie with fellow disposables and fluffed up cermonial honour tolkens.

No one's going over to defend a system that shits on its citizens at every financial opportunity. They give up and fight to get mild lifestyle security for their immediate dependants. And gen z doesn't have dependants. No spouse, no kids , no leverage.

>>84050541
I don't actually want to deal with a woman. I would accept government subsidized egg donations and surrogacy, so I could be a single dad with veteran bennies.

>>84054365
After seeing the figure skater hapa chick whos Asian dad did just that, I see potential in using egg donors.

>>84054362
>generation z developed natural immunity to propaganda
I feel like they're split between "my own country sucks the cocks of every non national so there's no point in me dying for it" and "every brown non-national is the vicitim of my country and it should be destroyed." So, idk about being immune to propaganda but certainly influenced by a different kind.

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>DUDE FIGHT SO WOMEN CAN BE WHORES LMAO

>>84050621
I rather just leech off the regular government issued gibs.

>>84050529
based. we draft you first, frontline assault infantry

>>84054362
they're absolutely susceptible but in different ways

>>84051003
>raping women is the most disgusting thing in existence.
Nah. It's how most species reproduce.

>>84051003
Men have value their entire lives. Women lose all value once the eggs go bad.

>>84054362
The opposite. Here's a little secret: marketing and advertisement academic research closely tracks who is vulnerable to what kind of propaganda and reports on it routinely, including at major conferences. This includes reports from industry players using this information to get people to pay $$$ for various things, including charities, products, games (think gachas) and more.

The least vulnerable generation ever is millenails, and that's because millenials fragmented into a billion tiny factions each with very distinct ideologies that cannot be grouped together easily. Zoomers are considered the single easiest generation ever, with boomers a close second.

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>>84050693
If rape is a war crime so is sending men to get maimed or killed against their will, hole. If the state gets to commit war crimes against me by forcing me to fight I get to commit war crimes against the enemy's women, simple as.

>>84052575
This just shows that moids are violent apes who need to be sent to die in wars

>>84054423
Evidence: https://www.iab.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Crowdtap_TheMarketersGuidetoUGC.pdf
>only 1% of millenials react to ads the way they're supposed to
>basically only trust user generated content and peer recommendations
>Fuckall trust in entities
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20211115005207/en/Razorfish-Study-Finds-82-of-Consumers-Make-Purchase-Decisions-with-Purpose-in-Mind-Yet-Brands-Struggle-to-Put-Purpose-into-Practice
>genz will pay you so long as you say some bullshit propaganda slogan like muh environment or muh tranny rights

>>84054438
And what do you think the winning army does when they come across cities with no male defenders. They get mass raped like the Berlin whores in 45 ahahahaha

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>>84050541
Keep women out of the workforce to make them economically reliant on men and the problem immediately resolves itself. Non-Chad men with a good job suddenly look a lot more attractive when a woman's only choices in life are marrying her looksmatch, homelessness, becoming a prostitute or joining a convent. As soon as women are allowed to earn enough money to live on their own they piss it all away on frivolous consoooomer shit and flock to Chad's harem. There's a reason that is more or less how humanity functioned until our (((greatest ally))) invented (((feminism))).

>>84051240
>You think the bulk of soldiers in ancient warfare would get rewards and spoils?
Fun fact: in ancient Athens female POWs became state property and were put into state owned nonprofit whorehouses. Cost of prostitute was one Obol (smallest coin).
That the thing worth fighting for average guy don't you think, femoid? And it's also communism!

>>84054429
the state is your enemy, not the people they pointed you at
if you need to commit war rape, do it to the trophy wives and daughters of the rich and powerful, the families of the people responsible for the wars. Not to random Iranian women.

>>84054484
>if you need to commit war murder, do it to the trophy wives and daughters of the rich and powerful, the families of the people responsible for the wars. Not to random Iranian conscripts

>>84054478
>just do le patriarchy
can't be done once it's undone

>>84054484
Problem is those women have a bunch of security and will most likely never be in the same room as me. Neither of those apply to a conquered land's women. The other solution is giving men a looksmatched virgin wife so we feel like we have something worth fighting for waiting for us back home and are actually motivated to give a shit, but of course our women already decided they'd rather be tortured to death than fuck anyone who isn't Chad.

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>>84054423
when I see an ad it has the opposite effect on me, it makes me not want to spend money on their shit as punishment for showing me their ad
and when I see an ad for something that I talked about recently it pisses me off cause I know that those NIGGERS THOSE COCKSUCKING KIKE NIGGER TRANNY FAGGOTS are listening 24/7

>>84050693
Men have been raping after conquering tribes for literally hundreds of thousands of years, foid. It's literally the entire reason your gender has such a pervasive rape fetish: for most of human (pre)history, the only foid genes that would survive after their tribe was slaughtered, were the foids who gave in to their raping conquerors (and gave them rape babies). The foids with any inkling to resist were killed off (after or during the rape, of course), alongside the men.

>>84050402
No one is going to die for their Jewish owned (((Economic Zone))). Send the millions of Jeets and Arabs you imported instead, stupid fuckers