Science as a word in its origins just meant ‘knowledge’ and ‘to know’ and this included the search for esoteric woo woo such as that left behind by the Egyptians

>>16901903
Before science became a business, you had to pretty retarded to dedicate your life to it. I mean you still are today, if you are intelligent enough for STEM you're intelligent enough to have a better career somewhere else, but still.

>>16901903
That wouldn't be weird back then. Everyone was superstitious and engaged in all sorts of magical thinking. What would be weird is if you weren't like that.

>>16901903
He even looks like a neckbeard. Only without the neckbeard.

>>16901907
Fpbp

People forget how simple and pure and prone to magical tier thinking science is

>>16901903
>He believed he could produce a slave creation, or a familiar of sorts—the Homunculus—by ejaculating into a chicken egg, or worse.
Ok so it didn't work
It was worth a try

>>16901903
Back then the elite intellectuals were about as knowledgeable and smart as the average person today. That's why everyone on 4chan and twatter has retarded schizotheories as him. Give it another 500 years and everyone will sound like post-docs do today.

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>>16901903
They were posers, just like scientists today, except back then posing meant pretending to have interesting and esoteric knowledge of forbidden things while today it means peddling the Current Thing harder than anyone else.

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>>16901903
Basically what >>16901914 has mentioned

"Science" as this separate field of study we understand today didn't exist prior to the Enlightenment. Most "scientists" before this time were big on what we consider pseudoscience/nonsense like theology, astrology, alchemy, and other forms of mysticism. Even Newton, one of the smartest men to ever live, spent far more time trying to create the Philosopher’s Stone and figure out cryptic messages from the Bible, than studying mathematics and the laws of the universe.
>>16901940
Knowledge ≠ Intelligence

The average 15 year old knows more about medicine, geology, anthropology, astronomy, and any basic science today, than what historical intellectuals like Newton or Leibniz ever knew. But that's all accumulated knowledge. If they had to use raw brain power, than Newton and Leibniz would win. These two created Calculus, computing devices, and in Leibniz case, he came up with the idea of binary code and thinking machines centuries before electrical power existed.

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The scientific method and its consequences...

>>16901903
you need to be a whacko to spin some wires around a magnet and expect anything to happen

>>16901903
Some people cum in the same coconut till it grows Maggots. Saw that on Whang. It's real

>>16902149
Ewwww. Video?

>>16902080
If this ever happens to me and I have to deal with germans doing the old "actually it was GERMANY" I will get a COURT ORDER to stop your bullshitting entirely.

>>16901903
There wasn't a body that told them they couldn't. In other words, he was more free to experiment and do science in his own ways. Today there's peer review which you have to suck off their tranny cocks to get accepted as a "scientist". If you do you own research, you're considered a racist bigot.

>>16902692
>he was more free to experiment and do science in his own ways
Sure, but do you figure he actually sealed the sperm of a man in a sealed cucurbit for forty days with the highest degree of putrefaction in a horse's womb until it came to life and moved itself?

>>16902709
Only way to find out is to replicate the study

>>16902723
But how can you replicate the study if you don't even know what counts as a highest degree of putrefaction? This is exactly why there is a Replication Crisis.

>>16902736
Thats why you replicate the study to the best of your ability. If you have a bone of scientist in you, you'll get this right. If you're a cargo cultist peer review guy, nothing can be done in anyway form or shape in any capacity by anyone with anything for any reason.

Excuses do not make science

>>16902740
What stops Paracelsus from claiming my jizz just wasn't putrefied enough for the horse womb to do its magic?

Safe science is stifling science.
True science is mad science.

>>16903370
You’re not even wrong. The scientific community has become so infested with pussies it has become one big giant woman.

Newton quite seriously believed you could transmute elements to gold and that the elixir of life was a real thing.

imagine the progress if we'd traded the womb for a jar and just fermented our way to the moon, we were robbed

>>16905344
This sounds like something from some Japanese video game

Madness and genius go together like peanut butter and ham

>>16906924
>peanut butter and ham

>>16901903
>which is easily observed
he wasn't weird, he was just merely making a scientific observation

>>16907185
Yes

Paracelsus was a fucking asshole who burned the texts of people he disagreed with, no matter how rare or ancient. Fuck that dick. It should be obvious just from his name.

>>16901903
This is not different from pretending LLMs are sentient.

>>16907304
Hey. He got a secret US Army railgun project named after him. It got destroyed on Oct. 1 1998 though. Have some respect.

>>16902080
Yet Classical Mechanics have far more relevance to your everyday life than Relativity, even in 2026.

>>16907304
Galileo was an asshole. Newton was an asshole.

>>16901938
This unironically.

>>16905340
See >>16907853

Because all notable scientists are autistic. Look at an interview with Witten for fuck's sake and tell me that guy isn't weird.

Autistic traits make for good scientific inquiry.

>>16901903
You need to be kind of an obsessive weirdo to really go beyond the bounds of human knowledge and try to find something new out there.

>>16901903
He is literally me.

>>16901903
cant blame a nigga for trying

>>16902652
Germany literally invented science though.

>>16906924
I prefer peanut butter and hard boiled egg sandwiches.

>>16902080
Where are the Tabula Rasa chimpanzees that have been trained to design skyscrapers from blueprints to construction?

>>16905340
Technically we can transmute gold, it just costs more than it's worth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysopoeia

>>16901903
Because they are based

>>16901903
he's just like me fr fr

>>16901903
The unknown presents infinite possibility.
Scientific discovery narrows the limits of possibility more and more over time.
It wasn't weird to think stuff like this might be possible back then.
Over time our knowledge boxes us in more and more until magic is completely extinguished and we are all replaced by robots and humanity has 0 possibility because extinct.
Scientific utopia is an Amazon warehouse of robots processing units of product for transport to other robots who immediately dump them into a landfill for maximum supply chain efficiency for the rest of all time.

>>16901903
This guy is my DM

>>16901903
He sounds based

>>16905340
>elixir of life
stem cell research is ongoing

>>16901903
Kek

>>16901903
We’ve forgotten that true science is mad science. Safe, consensus based science is stuffy and stifling at worst, uninspired at best.

>>16901903
It's not that crazy given the context.

These alchemists had a bunch of cultural myths and folk medicine behind them that people accepted as fact.
If your mythology involves a god that created a man from clay, of course when your early chemists discovered some actual chemical reactions by heating up rocks they're going to start fantasizing about unlocking the secrets of how said god created life.

Mysticism is just an endless chain of wild tales derived from our ancestors making false assumptions via observations, most of which probably came from circumstance, mental illness, failure to explain the natural world around them and anthropomorphize or symbolism (I.E How Chinese medicine just takes an animalistic trait such as an animal being violent, prescribes a body part and proposes you can obtain that quality by eating it such as eating tiger dick to cure ED).

Science didn't get really serious until the geniuses starting yielding impressive results, quackery falls behind because it repeatedly failed.

The Alchemist that actually achieves a useful chemical reaction gets validation, the guy cumming and bleeding all over random plants and smearing it on heated lead nets shit.
Eventually mankind realized "Maybe our jizz DOESN'T have anything to do with changing lead to gold and CAN'T create artificial slave humans"

>>16901903
prove him wrong (you can't)

>>16901903
It only sounds ridiculous to you because you have been indoctrinated into believing so by the very people who benefit from the forbidden knowledge.

>>16923532
He could have just had sex with a woman and made babies instead of jizzing into an egg. Magic is absolutely retarded nonsense.

>>16923691
>Magic is absolutely retarded nonsense.
What is magic to you?

I mean, is it really that crazy? They had no idea what a woman's eggs are. They can see jizz with their eyes. The logical assumption based on their limited information would be that jizz somehow incubates in a woman's womb and becomes a proper person. Then they relate that process to chicken eggs which they could visually study which appeared to function as an external womb. Ergo, maybe if you jizzed in a chicken egg maybe it'd act like a surrogate womb, a technology that people to this day still research.

>>16902080
>"Science" as this separate field of study we understand today didn't exist prior to the Enlightenment. Most "scientists" before this time were big on what we consider pseudoscience/nonsense like theology, astrology, alchemy, and other forms of mysticism. Even Newton, one of the smartest men to ever live, spent far more time trying to create the Philosopher’s Stone and figure out cryptic messages from the Bible, than studying mathematics and the laws of the universe.
Modern day scientists don’t want you to know any of this. They absolutely despise when you mention that Newton believed in magic. Like, you will get attacked for it.

>>16923693
Manifesting physical objects by thoughts or words.
Flying via thoughts or words.
Predicting the future with absolute certainty.
Any kind of harmful power using only thoughts or words.

>>16923989
Technology has already exceeded anything some medieval "magician" could do.
It is possible that humans can heal themselves from small injuries, but no limb regrowth. Although in the future crispr may enable that. Crispr tech could potentially enable humans to
>regrow limbs
>have diminished pain reception
>much greater strength

>>16923691
I'd say the idea at the time was the thought of making something that was only "partly" human without free will or the emotional attachment of having a family member.

Plus you had all these myths of beings born from no mother, but by the life giving seed of a god, usually as some means of expressing some kind of "purity", like with Athena or Aphrodite.
Without a true lineage, a homunculus is without blood relation, there are zero attachments.

It's ultimately the mystical version of the actual scientifically feasible concept of creating a cloned human with the specific purpose of having zero loves ones and not being legally considered a human being, to exist as slave labor.