>They said that the mission they've been planning for decades just wasn't feasible
(((oops)))

>>16921665
>2028
lol
lmao
It's not happening before 2030

>>16921671
if it doesn't happen before 2030, it ain't happening before china

>We chose to do things not because they are easy, but because they are hard.

We let John F. Kennedy Down Spacebros.

>>16921665
and to think, we landed on the Moon in 1968 using a ship made of tin foil and duct tape.

>>16921665
i think it's a matter of recognizing reality.

>>16921674
China isn't landing on the moon by 2030, no one is landing on the moon by 2030. 2050 and it might be realistic.

I think the quickest option to beat China would be to make a cut down expendable starship to serve as an upper stage for TLI and use it to yeet a small lander like Blue Moon in one launch.

Though I don't think it really matters if China lands before us. Lanyue won't be able to do anything that Apollo didn't already do. Starship HLS would be such a massive 1-up that it wouldn't matter if it came a few years later.

why is there never news aboout china's space program? they don't have their own artemis going on? they don't suffer delays?

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>>16921665
which dumbasses thought this was real?

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>>16921665
>No moon colony
>No human on Mars
>No floating Venusian airships
>Hardly any documentation on other planets
>No cool spaceships (save maybe for the new Starship that keeps getting delayed)
>Not even artificial gravity
>The most we got is the ISS
Why the fuck we did regress so hard in Space? Looking back at the 1950s and 1960s everyone in the world thought space was the future. Cars were designed like space ships, media was filled with space-themed stories, and the top scientists were literally drawing out plans for moonbases and habitable space stations. Then people stopped caring and thought space was stupid and now plans are guarantee to be delayed and never met.

>>16921708
yeah its quite something when white men are in charge instead of women and troons and other retards

>>16921847
Imagine that instead of a moon colony you're proposing a deep sea colony
>oh you can sift the ancient sand for uh rare minerals
>maybe there's useful stuff down there
>think of the experiments!
>we need to expand as an species
>just spend a few trillions, cram a few hundred people inside a cramped tin can and hope for the best :)

>>16921861
>oh you can sift the ancient sand for uh rare minerals
Well we already know there is rare shit on Earth that we can get in space like asteroid metals, helium 3, and microgravity (yes some materials need that for production). And I'd like to mention we barely even explored our solar system, so there is probably a bunch of shit out there we could use.
>we need to expand as an species
Except we fucking do! With that mentality the modern world as we know it wouldn't exist since no one wants to go exploring.
>just spend a few trillions, cram a few hundred people inside a cramped tin can and hope for the best :)
Technology improves. The first Transatlantic Ships took months to cross and were smelly, dangerous, and only for hardened sailors. Now Mommy, Daddy, and their iPad baby could cross the ocean in just 6 hours in conditions that would make sailors from the 1500s jealous.

>>16921869
You forgot that the first transatlantic ships found an entire new continent ripe for colonization, the first lunar capsules found useless dust that may or may not be useful before the next century if and only if fusion energy starts being useful
It's not that nothing gets done because we don't know what's out there, it's precisely because we know there's nothing useful yet that nothing gets done
>Except we fucking do! With that mentality the modern world as we know it wouldn't exist since no one wants to go exploring.
Except it's already explored and it was deemed worthless. You think space is the new world, while in reality it's only Antarctica

>>16921837
They’ve never had an astronaut killed in their space programs history. Apparently.

>>16921884
this is the normal dude, not an outlier.
lmao nasa treats their astronauts so bad that americans think death is normal. poor apollo guys

>>16921885
death IS normal thoughever, it happens to 100% of people (except jesus)

How likely is it for ESA to overtake both NASA and China and land on the moon first?

crazy idea here but how about instead of sending humans to the moon for some cool selfies they just send a robot to the moon that can build a bunch of more robots using moon rocks and then they can build a cool base so the next time humans go there they have a place to live?

>>16921665
Is the Chinese moon mission scheduled for 2028?

>>16922037
before january 1st 2030
but america gives overly optimistic dates and then delays, china gives overly pessimistic dates and then does it way before then

>>16921837
Search for news in Chinese and you will find plenty or you know check wikipedia or something, it's not in the news because it's not embarrassing for China. Delays are a factor of overpromising and underfunding. Overpromising is easy to avoid since ultimately going to the moon is something that is known to be possible and not all that difficult and underfunding is easy to solve when you care about saving face instead of losing the next election when jews chimp out again. NASA is chained to constantly altering mission objectives and funding levels and insanely dependent on good will of the public to get any funding. They can't afford to make mistakes but at the same time they have to make sure to get all the science done with each mission because you never know when any given mission is the last. Chinese program is much more meticulous and plans on a longer time scale and can afford to just do test launches and dedicated missions.

You can pretty much imagine how the reaction would be if NASA launches artemis and it just fucking blows up in space or during launch killing everyone on board. NASA would likely get gutted and never again do any manned space stuff. If that happened in China it would almost certainly lead to doubling down, twice the space ships, twice the funding and more astronauts to make up for the mistake.

>>16922043
The joke was that americans aren't going to the moon in 2028, only way man goes to the moon by then is that the Chinese do it.

>Whole crew is minorities
>Rocket blows up
>US doesn't try to send anyone to the moon in 100 years if it even still exists
Most clownworld thing ever. Also the most likely.

*chirp*

>>16921665
How come the original pictures taken on the moon do not have radiation damage?

>>16922006
shalom

>>16922511
what
jews don't believe in jesus
jesus was just a jew which is why they hate him because he had to be one for any of them to listen to him

>>16921665

But they said reactor on moon this year.

>>16922699
they can't put a human on the moon bit they're going to put an cutting edge AI datacenter lmao

>>16922688
christianity = evangelical judaism, simple as

>>16921730
I don't like china but their program is reasonable and they are hitting their goals

>>16922920
you couldn't say something more stupid if you tried

>>16922929
face facts, christians been pushing abraham for 2000 years

>>16921665
the devaluation of currency and the increase in costs that began in 1970s proved to be an end of the space race. The last moon visit took place in 1972. Ever since the abolition of the gold standard there wasn't a single successful moon mission. It's simply to expensive and risky to get someone on the moon. Insurance alone would be fucking nuts.

>>16922937
If you want to be pedantic about it, Christianity is a reinterpretation of the god of Abraham and its entire cult, with new figures, new rules and new dogma. By every measure it became a separate religion that borrowed their god figure, same as Islam did when IT remixed Christianity.

>>16922941
>same god
i accept your concession

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>>16921674
we already landed on the moon a half dozen times before China, it's a done deal

>>16922943
God isn't real dumbass, "god" is just a ritual implement, an idea to base rituals around and give your laws authority. The Abrahamic religions are different religions ripping off some names from one another.

>>16922964
landing on the moon is not the big challenge - trying to build something resembling a permanent station or base is. It is not easy. What the Chinese have and what most Western nations don't is the resolve to go through with a lot of sacrifice and enough potential candidates to engage in the risky mission. Sadly, we got too lax in the last 30-40 years.

>>16922964
>earth is supposedly 4x bigger than the moon
>in this picture it's smaller than the moon is in the sky
the jig is up, sorry glowniggy

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>>16923018
it's all so tiresome

I'd rather see a cool unmanned mission to titan or something than landing humans on a dead rock

>>16922017
We can't even build an earth robot that can build another robot out of raw industrial stock
Why do you think we could build a robot that could build a robot out of moon rocks

>>16923159
because all the good rocks on earth have already been consumed but the moon is full of nutritious moon rocks for the robots to feed on