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NBA: You can not be in the GOAT conversation if you have never won a ring as the number 1 option, while playing both offense and defense, and beinf efficient. The only exception to this rule is when you are an absurd glitch in the sport like Shaq or Curry. And the list is very short: Jordan, Kobe, Hakeem, Kareem, Kawhi, Giannis, Curry, Shaq, Bird, Bill, and Wilt.
Any sport, except Volleyball: Assists are a heavily overrated stat, setting someone up is great but it's not comparable to scoring or defending effectively. It's a second tier skill for the sole fact you are depending on someone else to do their thing.
Any sport: Comparing different eras directly is completely retarded. Comparing to the average of their eras and then drawing a parallel makes much more sense overall.
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>>153684838
>Any sport: Comparing different eras directly is completely retarded. Comparing to the average of their eras and then drawing a parallel makes much more sense overall
But what if the competition in that era was seriously weak and that player stood out among them, would you still consider i a valid case for GOAT status?
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>>153688808
Lebron only tried on defense in one year of his career, and in many games during that year Wade was the #1 option
>>153689191
>But what if the competition in that era was seriously weak and that player stood out among them, would you still consider i a valid case for GOAT status?
Yes. If he was able to stand out back then, there is no reason he wouldn't be able to stand out now with more free learning material, better medicine and structure.
>>153689193
>if your "sport" doens't have a ball, its not a real sport
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>>153689280
>my team is better than all your teams
False, my team is better than yours
>>153689157
>Using team achievements to measure individual ability is retarded.
Correct
>Winning a knock-out competition does not make you the objectively best team, there's a big luck element involved.
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>>153689193
Snooker, bowling, golf, cricket, ping pong, rounders, pickleball, pool, billiards, football, pong, space hopper, dodgeball, etc. are all games; you play a game of basketball, volleyball, jokari, croquet and so on.
Sports are pure. Citius. Altius. Fortius. Running, swimming, jumping, cycling, ...
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>>153684838
>you are depending on someone else to do their thing.
congratulations, you just discovered the meaning of "team sport" you jackass
when you score a goal in football you also depend on your teammates to provide you with good passes, unless you can score solo dribbling the whole team every single time
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>>153702170
>reading comprehension
I'm not saying assists are useless you retard. But that the stat, should be taken less seriously than the stat that represents scoring.
>when you score a goal in football you also depend on your teammates to provide you with good passes, unless you can score solo dribbling the whole team every single time
You are equating assisting with passing, and that's retarded
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>>153702630
>can't read
>can't argue
What can you do?
>>153702656
Makes sense. Here it's a women's and fag's sport. I'm not even trying to be inflamatory, fags love volleyball here for some reason, there are full tournaments of only faggot teams in some states. And they are actually good and their games are actually entertaining too