catch up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbqkQpjGIz4

>>153703872
I believe it has something to do with inmigration.
North africans replaced native italians and they cant play for shit.

At least blacks are fast and strong but stupid

>>153703872
Souf italians are lazy fucks and norf italians prefer sports for white people.

They won a trophy more recently than France, Germany, England etc.

Only Argentina, Portugal and Spain did better.

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>commit 29 fouls
>Get 3 yellow cards only

The leauge ass kisses inter

>>153703872
It's just inconsintent. Win competitions occasionaly, usually failing completely. It's actually good overall.

>>153703872
the were caught bribing referees and other teams. the whole league was a total corrupt mess. they got found out so are no longer bribing and cheating.

the loss in results is no coincidence

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>>153703872
Italy is a volleyball nation now

>>153703872
The key difference between Serie A and other leagues is that the football federation (FIGC) we have, as well as being incorrigibly corrupt to the core, tries to protect nefarious debt-ridden clubs such as Inter and Roma (or Fiorentina this season) at all costs, which, left to their own devices, would be anonymous teams steeped in mediocrity. Imagine an entire household with completely distorted moral values attempting to protect at all costs a money-wasting, idiotic manchild who only contributes to the family's financial ruin and loss of dignity. That's Italian football for you since 2006.
On the other hand, clubs that have really given something back to the football movement, or that despite everything invest in youth academies and in training players for the national team, are severely penalized in the name of a very vague popular sentiment (i.e., recurring social envy) which renders the collective effort of the entire pyramid system of leagues utterly pointless.
According to this dangerous mentality, which took root with the thirdworld farce that was Calciopoli twenty years ago, we now find ourselves with an anti-meritocratic system based on scheming, political connections, slander, unidentified connections to the underworld, a relentless criminal abuse of sports regulations and more artificial tropisms of various kinds.
The entire Italian football environment has become incredibly unappealing both abroad and within the country itself and nothing will change.

>>153703872
Same shit that happened to Brazil. Sports became a bigger and bigger business. Brazil sucks because all their good players are poached by Europe when they’re 14, Italy sucks because the big clubs are a lot poorer than the ones owned by gulfies and hedge funds.

>>153703872
broke country, broke football

>>153703872
I remember it was big enough in the '90s to have live matches and a Sunday magazine show on Channel 4 here in the UK, although I think Gazza going over to Lazio was a big part of it.

it died with the rigging scandal. blame moggi, berlusconi (and maybe inter but unproven)

>>153705144
Which rigging scandal? There were Totonero and Calciocaos.

>>153703872
watch this pierre lad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_lmX_BLjXo

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>>153703872
Too much SOVL for you boy.

>>153704392
If their country was filled with Nafris, shouldn't we be seeing the Italians Mahrez, Hakimi and Cherki by now?

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youll never find the truth because each clubs fanbase just blames a different club for it all.

The decline of Serie A from its peak as the world's most dominant football league in the 1990s was caused by a combination of financial mismanagement, structural stagnation, and damaging scandals.

1. Financial Stagnation and Global Competition
While the Premier League and La Liga aggressively globalised their brands and secured massive international TV deals, Serie A failed to adapt to the modern corporate football landscape.

Revenue Gap: By 2026, the Premier League's revenue is nearly double that of its closest rivals, while Serie A generates approximately €2.9 billion—less than half of the English top flight.

Media Rights: Italian clubs delayed global marketing efforts and struggled with domestic broadcasting values, which saw an 8% drop in the most recent cycles.
Investment Lag: Italy missed the wave of massive sovereign wealth and billionaire investment that transformed clubs like Manchester City, PSG, and Chelsea.

2. Infrastructure and Stadium Ownership
A critical structural weakness is that most Italian clubs do not own their stadiums; they are owned by local municipalities.

Revenue Loss: Clubs cannot fully capitalise on matchday income, hospitality, or naming rights, and must pay increasing rent to city councils.
Outdated Facilities: Many venues are remnants of the 1990 World Cup, featuring unpopular running tracks and crumbling infrastructure that discourage attendance.

Bureaucracy: Complex Italian planning laws and "cultural interest" protections often prevent clubs like Inter and AC Milan from modernising or building new grounds.

>>153705386
3. The Calciopoli Scandal (2006)
The 2006 match-fixing scandal severely damaged the league's global credibility and commercial appeal.

Sanctions: Juventus was stripped of two titles and relegated to Serie B, while AC Milan, Fiorentina, and Lazio received significant point deductions.

Star Exodus: The scandal triggered a mass departure of elite talent (e.g., Zlatan Ibrahimović, Fabio Cannavaro) to other leagues, further diminishing the "star power" required to attract sponsors.

4. Tactical and Structural Conservatism
Tactical Stagnation: While other leagues embraced high-intensity pressing and fast transitions, many Italian sides remained wedded to slower, defensive tactical models that became less effective in European competition.

Youth Development: A reliance on veteran players and a historical failure to invest in youth academies led to a talent drought, contributing to the Italian national team missing the 2018 and 2022 World Cups.

It's because football changed, now it looks like a game of Fifa 2015 or whatever where the only stat that matters is speed. Italy has never relied on pacey players, we've always relied on a strong defence and individual technical players who were pretty slow (Baggio, Totti, Del Piero, Pirlo), now those players just don't exist anymore because the game is just too fast

>>153705408
This.
The Shitalians always play like sissy boiz, went full defence in hope to win a 1:0 or even 0:0 is acceptable in full time if the match doesn’t have to determine a winner.
Nobody wants to watch this sport style, they want fast and fury. They want a 10:9 match where the players descend into a group fight whenever there is a slightest opportunity, it gives the audience an adrenaline rush and makes them feel good.

>>153703872
Italian football has always been incredibly boring

>>153704392
this is your brain on /pol/
>>153704516
this, people tend to forget we won a WC and a EC in the last 20 years. Only France and Spain did the same
>>153705386
>>153705395
this is an AI post and you should be banned. als oyou completely missed the point.
It is not the big teams infrastructure that made Italian football become shit, it is a mixture of events that all comes down to the mafia/nepotism/"immoral familism" of the country.
Befoer the Euro we had the biggesteconomic boom in history. This way, Gheorghe Hagi could go from Real Madrid to Brescia, and ballon d'or secon classified Paulo Futre to Reggiana. David Platt, one of the most talented english prospects, went from Arsenal to fucking Bari. Why? because small entrepreneur could make a fucton of money in postwar Italy, and before euro they could do all of financial tricks. Change from lira to euros and the arrival of oligarchs and big fund depleted the spending power of medium-small italian teams.
But there is a deeper reason why Italy became shit: football is corrupted starting from youth clubs to lower tiers to serie A. if a kid wants to play football in Italy, he do not play on the streets and has no public facility. he have to either pay the 5 a side pitch to a local neighborhood mafioso (5 euros for one hour each) or pay a monthly fee to a slightly bigger mafioso who has a scuola calcio.
In Norway, Switzerland (both of them beat us) or France or Belgum, plenty of public football facilities, less pressure, less corruption, and the same happen in Spain.
tldr; Italy is a geriatric corrupted country and football is the mirror of this

mamma mia i makea da pasta

Inter 9/11’d Italian football in 2008 so they could consolidate power and win a champions league

>>153707118
>plenty of public football facilities
Kids join their local clubs and if any good get to move to bigger clubs with better youth trainers and more intensive training regimes. Small clubs go bankrupt all the time, mainly screwing over taxpayers. Kids can use the pitches whenever they like but few do. Playing in the street, in city squares and parks is something from before the noughties.

Main reason why the epl became dominant is their domestic TV deal. In the 90s foreign markets were only a tiny fraction of their media rights. Some Sky execs, off their tits on coke, massively overpaid for the domestic TV deal. Sheer dumb luck it snowballed into what it is today.

i always found it pretty cool that for a solid 50 years, every single (except for like one or two i think) transfer record was broken by an italian team. playing in italy was like the dream move for any player from 1950 to 2000.

>>153709589
i agree sky are retards and subhuman but i also think its the 90s and 00s brought about everyone having the internet and combined with the explosion of foreign interest in watching the league and those tv deals. everyone can speak english and nobody can speak italian outside of italy for a comparison, so when they wanted to see high level football they all wanted to watch the english teams with english commentary

>>153704970
Is it true Ndrangheta control Inter?

>>153709629
most players now grew up having an english team and watching the EPL so it makes sense they prefer to sign there and that increases the quality of the league. only exception is south america who grew up watching real madrid/barca and prefer to go there

>>153710928
UEFA decides how to do qualifiers, they keep it like it is so big nations' stars can statpad against san marino. Other confederations let the minnows fight amongst each other before they get to play the better teams.

>>153709589
True but those are two differemt problems.
Tv rights in Italy were treated si.ilarly ti Spain: Real and Barça just like Juve I ter and Milan for yeara were getting half of the cake, leaving the other half to other teams. Yet, Spain continued to produce talents while Italy stopped. The reason is corruption and the fact that fir a young talent in Italy is almost impossible to succeed. The only team that does it is Atalanta, they invest in the youth system and local talents amd now they are the only team left in UCL.
Belgium had a very nice integrated system of FA youth teams that were trained in the same way up to the NT. You didnt win shit while we did, somehow, but you produced a lot of talent and grew ip as a NT

>>153703872
Funny how the country known for cheating suddenly sucks when there is video review introduced

i think its just their negativity about football means they dont even try anymore, young kids think whats the point its all rigged and corrupt so why even bother and it makes them worse for it. whenever italians talk about football they sound jaded or depressed or angry, when great players are strong, positive and confident. hard to make it with that mindset

>>153703872
The reason top Serie Ass clubs often hire over-the-hill Slavs and Ngubus of unknown age over “native” Italians isn’t because of an innate Italian IQ deficit (a lazy & wrong explanation). A key part of it comes down to the c-word: Calcio. Tough questions demand tough answers & if we’re really serious about fixing the problem, we have to confront the TRUTH:

Our Italian culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long (at least since the 90s and likely longer). That doesn’t start in the U-23, it starts YOUNG.

A culture that celebrates the 29 year old young talent over the Juve Next Gen refugee, or the EPL Reject over the soulfvl Dribbly Scugnizz, will not produce the best footballers.

A culture that venerates Patrik Schick from “remember that one goal tho,” or Gabriel Paletta over Luca Rigoni in “THAT webm,” or ‘Gio Scotti' over Diletta in “halftime slagposting,” will not produce the best footballers.

(Fact: I know *multiple* sets of terroni parents in the 90s who actively limited how much their kids could watch those .webms precisely because they promoted mediocrity…and their kids went on to become wildly successful welfare recipients).

More movies like Saving Patrick Zaki, fewer reruns of “BoboTV.” More betting on games, less taking ourselves in round. More weekend scansing competitions, less loans with options to buy. More CALCIO, less Iracy. More catenaccio, less “playing out of the back.” More attempting to choke out Guido Vaciago, less “Bisogna fare i homplimenti ai ragazzi"

>>153703872
we're into rugby and cricket now

>>153705395
>Sanctions: Juventus was stripped of two titles and relegated to Serie B, while AC Milan, Fiorentina, and Lazio received significant point deductions.
Juventus had a resurgence in the 2010s and were becoming the Bayern of Italy, but then they went full retard and changed their logo and tanked their finances by getting old Cristiano who flopped.

>>153705144
lol inter were involved, moratti blackmailed everyone to keep their mouth shut because he had access to telephone conversations thanks to his TIM connections

>>153711877
why dont these young talents who cant get game time go somewhere else though. like some of ours go to germany to get gametime and can always come back once theyve proved themselves, or go to smaller clubs/drop down a division in italy rather than rotting in the reserves and

>>153711991
>and
The mafia got him. pasta la vista, rest in pepperoni.

>>153711991
Italians don't leave their parents' home until their mid 30s.