What is best gang to make your dudes? And why is Venators?

>>97537625
This statement only shows you have no creativity.

>>97537625

Depends on the style of yourdudes. a small handful of badasses? Venators. A couple tough guys and a pack of mooks? Outcasts.

>Bro i'm making chaos aligned Escher
>So how many 3rd part nudes for your slaanesh gang then?
>H-how did you know slaanesh?

Just once i want to see Tzeentch or Nurgle none coomer gang.

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>>97538126
Google search can give you that.

>>97538126
They run brothels and make drugs, it's the fitting choice.
Get over it.

>>97538229
Why would Escher run brothels? Delaque and Genestealer Cults makes more sense to be the ones running those.
Hell even Orlocks would make more sense.

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>>97538229
Actually that makes more sense for genestealer eschers you basic bitch.

>>97538459
That reminds me of the Caphias Cain story that had genestealer prostitutes. One of them had long limbs and hide that facts with zebra like tattoos

>>97538486
Their whole deal pre uprising is fuckin', infesting people through tainted chems or fuckin' and destabilising infrasturcture.

two out of three aint bad.

>>97538371
>>97538459
Because it's established canon that they do.
Read the fucking novels.

>>97538596
>Read the fucking novels
Why the fuck would I read fanfiction? Current NegraInmunda Lore hardly passable and you want so subject people to BL paid fanfiction?

>>97538620
>Current
I didn't say read the novel length advertisements, I said read the actual novels.

>>97538637
Again my dear anon.
>novels
No one sane should touch those. Specially if they make insane claims like Escher Brothels that makes little sense with how Escher are portray

>>97538650
If you haven't read them then you don't actually know how they are portrayed, dumbass.
And you're missing out, most of the originals (excepting kal jericho) are actually good novels on their own, not just as black library entries.

>>97538371
>>97538459
Wouldn't Delaque make more sense to be Genesealer cultists?

>>97538699
The whole point of the cult is to infest and part of that requires a portion of the neophytes to look human enough to be approachable. Aint nobody approaching those dark city looking motherfuckers.

Especially on Necromunda where Secundus and the Imperial Fist presence leads to hyper scrutiny of genestealers. Eschers can hide the cosmetics on the 1st gens pretty easy and their males are all fucked up anyway to excuse some malformations.

>>97538699
>>97538742
Considering regular Genestealers do not like the Malstrains whatever genestealer cultist are left are extra careful.
But then again hybrids have Tau levels of plot armor regarding how much detections they can evade.
The only thing thing different from a regular human and hybrid is that the hybrid is considerably more healthy. The bald thing is more a model thing than an absolute for the genestealer hybrids

If 50% of the escher population end up malformed genetic freaks why don't they just multiply the natural way instead of being freakish test tube babies?

>>97538797
Escher Supremacist, that's about it.

>>97537396
>a magazine solely for specialist games
What was gw thinking?

>>97538797
Because Escher females are actually the closest to real world current humans on a genetic level. In Fallout/Dark Tower speak they are the "true thread" of human genetics. Every other human even the Terran nobility that never left the homeworld are the descendants of irradiated freaks in some fashion or another. This leads to a major superiority complex in the House of Blades, is also why they are the house that the sisters of battle recruit from as genetically they have the most in common with the emperor and they think that makes them prime "brides of the emprah" deals.

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Playing first game of BB on new rules. Only ever played one league, and that was on BB2020 rules.

nuSkaven (me) vs Amazons. First game of the league.
Any tips? Them all having dodge scares me

Pic related: my 4 gutter runners that never made it to a game together ;_;

>>97538971

Sick paint job on those rats, dude.

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>>97539051
Thanks my dude
Makes me even more salty. Poured my heart and soul into making a skaven team with no dupes and never got to see the benefits.
Oh well, can still use most the ones I converted.

>>97538650
>why do they do this
>it's written in the lore
>no, lore is shit
>but it does say so in the lore
>reeee lore is shit
Fuck off then, don't ask for an answer and refuse it when it's presented to you.

There was a rules update for Underworlds. Dunno if anyone cares.

A venator gang idea I had for the longest time was an imperial fist scout marine team, but at the same time I feel that kind of goes against much of the game. At least there's that not!blood angel to hire

>>97539304

That screeching subnormal is in every gwsg thread bitching about how nobody obeys his preferred parameters for Necromunda. Ignore him.

>>97539304
>BL
>anything but fanfiction
Ok.jpg what next malnourished children hard counter terminators?

>>97538818
There was decent demand for the various games GW yeeted from their mainline and relegated to Specialist. With Blood Bowl probably being the biggest, and Necromunda being second. That being said even before Specialist was a thing and those games were still being sold in store there were semi-official magazines for them.

How are grand cruisers in battlefleet gothic?

>>97540502
Pretty grand

What would you choose to add to a Tzeench themed escher kitbash? Some Jade Obelisk stuff seems obvious, maybe a rubric marine weapon or two but what else to balance the sorcery and mutation aspects?

>>97540502
The grand cruisers say "Good, how are you?"

>>97540716
tzaangor weapons for melee characters maybe.

>opened my Shadowhunt box
>wish I hadn't
Should have kept it pristine.

>>97539304
I should have bought Tomb World 6 months ago. I had no interest in the necrons but looking at how cunts are still scalping the deathwatch team it'll be a while before their prices don't suck.

>>97540767
>tzaangor weapons
Okay but how about things from kits people can actually get their hands on? GW hates producing the tzaangor kit in quantity, it's always out of stock and never in stores.

>>97541225
american pls go and stay go this is a br*tish game.

>>97541230
Britain doesn't exist anymore, it's been replaced by an indian colony.

>>97541321
Times change Ameristan.

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>Building Askurgan Trueblades
>Looking at their stats on Warcrier
>Ascetics, both types which have POLEARMS, have different lengths on both weapons, whose ONLY DIFFERENCE is either a bladed tip or a bludgeoning tip
>The Exemplar, who has TWO SWORDS, only has THREE ATTACKS when some other models get at LEAST five or six
>Battle Trait, which would have given the normally squishy units some persistence, only triggers on heroes or high wound models, who would probably soak up most of these attacks because even if you CRIT, HALF OF THESE FUCKERS ONLY HAVE 2 ATTACKS
>Even if they were meant to be mobile and pick at people from safe distances, ONLY ONE MODEL HAS A 3 INCH ATTACK and it's the FUCKING ACOLYTE, AND THERE'S NO RANGED ATTACKS EITHER
WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT OF THESE GUYS?

>>97538371
>Why would Escher run brothels?
Sex sells, they have means for it, can control it, and it's a convenient way of gathering info.

>>97541451
Also depending, frame people, let them vanish or procreate naturally (and lots more). Prostitution is one of the oldest and biggest buisnesses after all.

I got an ash waste arachnirig giftet. Can i somehow use it for Escher or am i better off Just building something entirely else out of it or ignore it just in case i start Vansaar one day?

>>97542699
It suck, both for the model and the rule. The most fun thing to do with the normal rig is use the 4 arms build to keep cost low and have a mediocre melee fighters with lots of attack. The ash waste rig force you to always take 2 shitty guns and it drove up the cost. The model if you try to repose them into a walking pose you'll realize that this thing can't walk normally because retarded designer make the spike on the thigh plate too big.

>>97542771
That means i am better off building a fancy Cutter or something out of it?

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>>97542699
>>97542771
>>97542815

If you want to use it as something else, find a Space Marine dreadnought ,AdMech robot Fist, or Saturnine Terminator fist to use it as an Orrus Spyrer. As you can see when you try to give the rig a grounded pose, the thigh plate will collide with the lower arms, so i have to remove them entirely, now the rig looks more like the mech from robocop.

And the GW Orrus spyrer is an even worse model than the Arachni Rig.

>>97542838
>use it as an Orrus Spyrer.
I am not familiar with this but from a short google search it is nothing i can use in "normal" campaigns like Dominion? Also isnt it a bit big for that? Do you mean old SM boxdread or the new one?

>>97542960
Old Dread (including Furioso and Space Wolves) with the storm bolter arm, or the contemptor dread. You can use Spyrers in a normal campaign, just not Spyrer incursion, which is meant to be used in a Secundus campaign.

If you're new to Necromunda you should avoid Spyrers though. They're a pest gang, they existed to bully people, but it's hard for them to win as their effectiveness heavily relied on Campaign setting and what scenario/mechanic will be used.

>>97542984
Alrighty, no Spyrers then, EVER.

>>97537901
I want to make the Always Sunny gang

>>97538671
>excepting kal jericho
They aren't high art by any means, but I did enjoy Blood Royal as some bedtime reading and the constant references to Yolanda's fat tits. Junktion was much better written and still my favourite though
>>97542244
I was led to believe BFG was expensive as hell back then but that actually looks pretty reasonable

I want to do some scenario for easter in Necromunda
Like collect some eggs and fight some npc bunnies.
Original idea was just use the cybor stats for the bunnies minus the teleport force field.
While the eggs would give the guys collecting them randoms buffs for the scenario like +1 to WS/BS, S, T or W and or their get a tummy ache and get a flesh wound.
Ideas are welcome

>>97543622
Make the eggs throwables that give the buff/debuff to whoever it hits (at random as well that is). So you can debuff or buff the enemy or friends alike at random. Can give really funny moments if you kinda roleplay in your head (even if not).

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>>97538229
>>97538371
>>97541451
>brothels
Unironically, as soon as I can find all the goblin STL files I need, I'm making some Necromunda terrain.

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Why there are next to no offers for Murderwing on the secondary market? Even if I find any, people ask for 70-80eur which is quite insane considering that you can grab almost any other team for 30-40eur. What am I missing?

>>97544179
I can't speak for the demand from bighammer, but they're definitely the new op metachaser team for KT so I imagine demand is high

>>97539927
I had a spin for an outcasts I'm currently working on, a group calling themselves IF scouts. None of them actually are but they all desperately want to be, complete with some /squires/ to follow them around.

>>97544505

I like it. Make the Leader and champs some outcast Goliath with a yellow paint scheme to their furnace plates, surround them with hoodwinked hive scum

>>97544907
shit, thats a way better idea. I was kit bashing some orlock and enforcers together to make a psued armor thing

Tilean Marskman
Or
Elven Ranger
Which one should I pick up, bros? Tilean seems like the clear winner if you already have a mobile hero

>>97544179
Thanks for reminding me to get mine up on ebay.

>>97544433
>they're definitely the new op metachaser team for KT so I imagine demand is high
I fucking hate Kill Team drones like you wouldn't believe. They are the epitome of consoomerism, perfect GW golems.

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Been stalled on painting these girls for months, I don't think I can make the outfit read as black shiny leather.
What I can do well enough is camouflage patterns, so this morning I thought "lets do the girls in greyscale urban camo!"
Thoughts?

>>97545625
I've been playing the same team since last edition, through buffs and nerfs equally
Loathe the tourneyfags

>>97545896
Which one? I wary, firstone was hive fleet (and y fav until it was no longer), also Wyrmblade and Hunterclade. Got Raveners but still haven't fully painted them yet.

>>97545708
pick a light source and shade up to it, ending in almost white if you want real shiny or metallic and contrast black on top, wont look the best but yknow. camp is cool, might look too busy though.
I really like the display, the bottom looks like toxic starry night

>>97545896
You must be aware than you are in minority then. KT is rightfully regarded as a very sweaty game, almost exclusively focused on competitive play which is kind of hilarious considering how bad and unbalanced the rules are at their core.

>>97546019
>>97546031
I play Hierotek (and Tomb World before them) with my friends
We treat it the same way we do every gw game - ignoring the existence of tournament play entirely
I honestly think the core ruleset is pretty good, and even the overall meta is pretty solid atm outside of murderwang and spaceyiffs

Sell me on the other imperial navy fleets. Gothic sector is the only list I'm really familiar with

Playing in a KT league this spring. First game was last night. I'm wrecka crew playing against murder wing. For all the whining on the internet, you'd think they were unbeatable or something. Managed to win 11-7

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>>97540502
Kinda ok. But i dont like that design. It looks more like a Space Hulk.

>>97542244
>>97543138
The prices were ok. Not cheap like other model kits or toys.

>>97543138
>>97547024
BFG at the time it was in-store and still supported by GW it was priced normally in line with other GW stuff. Once it moved to Specialist the price went up a little comparatively, plus you were stuck having to mail order everything you wanted. And with that GW was always happy to tack on bullshit taxes that you would not actually be subject to due to ordering internationally. You could actually end up with a pretty funny invoice/receipt with your order in some places like Australia where you ordered from GW US and paid in USD but was invoiced out of GW UK and had the equivalent of local Australian taxes applied as fees. And unless you were based in US or UK shipping and exchange rates inflated your costs.

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In good news my Skaven team has gone undefeated this season in my local league. The bad news is I think I am going to get ass blasted in the final by the chorf team I have to play. It was a good run though

>>97547014
The low res images and paint jobs aren't doing them any favors either

Where can I get some human sized power claws?

>>97545708
You can do shiny black leather, gloss varnish. None on the rest of the model
I used it on my Escher and it looks fantastic.

>>97547403
I tried it witth my test model, I did some hard white highlighting and then the gloss, and it sort of works, but that model had only smooth surfaces for the "leather" portions
the rest don't share that, particular those spied corsets, for those I just don't see the leather loo working with my level of painting, I could metallic the sikes, but I don't want that.
I do camouflage at this scale with battletech, I'm very comfortable with it and when it occurred to me to try that here that I had never seen camo Escher, so it would serve to set my gang apart.
I'm definitely going to stick with the black for my shivver, death maidens, ulanti courtier and her mirrormask (which is a callidus model so the bodysuit works best all black) and I'll probably also keep the long coat on the gang queen black too, but using he urban camo for the corsets and other clothing that would really give me trouble keeping to the black will greatly relieve my painting burden.
I guess I should have clarified I was more looking for thoughts on how an urban camo would look for these, less so on whether I should do it instead of shiny leather.

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>>97547403
The Shivver, being already done is a big part of why to skip her for camo =p.

>>97546073
I just want the book from that box(don't care for the new teams). Last edition i was one of the rare "Narrative rules" players. With the new edition i wasnt allowed anymore (kinda understandable, still sad).

>>97546627
Wreckas are really swingy can be really good or bad at times, maybe lucky? I haven't seen murderwing on the table yet so no idea if it is just "new thing so it must be overpowert" whining or real.

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>>97545708
>make the outfit read as black shiny leather.
Copy what they do in comics. The lines are all mostly vertical and very sharp. Do a really stark jump from deep black to about a mid light grey and then do a really sharp thin white line inside that

>>97547436
Sorry anon for telling you to do what you already did. I didn't see the second post

>>97547475
I don't think I did previously state that I had already glossed one of the minis months ago, so nothing to be sorry for.

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>>97547463
Oh you meant this reply.
Yeah, did that with this test model too, but neither of these has spiked corset.

>>97547444
My rolls weren't anything special. I wasn't as swingy as the dice could've made me. Though I did have a squig survive two shooting attempts. Murdering are good, but not shit stomping amazing like the whining makes them seem.

>>97547546
My theory is that at the pro level, where they premeasure every distance, play cagey, and don't slip up, they'll be quite dominant. That sort of positioning bonus is just too good in that environment.
However, in more casual games, they should be pretty fine. Sure, good, and that one combo that deals 4d3+1 damage no save or retaliation should be errata'd, but they're vulnerable. When your opponent makes mistakes you can handily punish them. So for the majority of us, it'll be just fine as an addition to the game.
This is unlike, say, canoptek, where the team was so safe to play from launch that just following basic principles made them hard to contest.

>>97547522
Bit of actual gloss varnish?

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Can I get some head stl suggestions for hive gangers, please?

So far I’ve got anvil industry’s cyberpunk post apoc and ganger heads.
I like their take on female heads not being “coomer” either and would like that for the female sci-fi punk heads.
Mostly because there was an incident at the lgs where someone got “uncomfortable” with a guy’s painted printed coomer sororitas kill team.

>>97547444
Its simple enough to port the narrative spec ops rules forward into the new edition. The OUAKT podcast has a version you can download if you're so inclined.

The dead silence box also included rules for a hexcrawl style campaign game.

>>97548885
>The dead silence box also included rules for a hexcrawl style campaign game.
Nice another reason to get the book.

>simple enough to port
I did mean that the other players did not want that, they feel uncomfortable with it (i can understand it somehow but still sad) Otherwise i would still play Hivefleet with narrative rules until i get another team with small skittering Tyranids.

>>97548917
>Nice another reason to get the book
Actually, you can find the whole ruleset in the KT app under mission pack. It's under "Ctesiphus expidition campaign".

>>97548927
My phone is to old for the app but it is also on the community page so thank you for the info.

>>97542244
>£8 for two cruisers
Man, we did not know how good we had it.

>>97548996
>Man, we did not know how good we had it.
Counterpoint: you don't know how good you have it now

>>97549016
What do you mean? Looking at multipart kit as in Guardsmen/knight kits.
Perry miniatures:
>60 models for $30, $0.50 per model
Wargame Atlantic
>30 models for $40, $1,33 per model
Games Workshop:
>10 models for $50, $5 per model
Trench Crusade:
>8 models for $50, $6.25 per model

Bumping this >>97545317 Mordheim question

>>97547300
Congratulations. I dont play Blood Bowl, but i like the minis and the game idea.
What other teams are in your league? And whats Chorf? Dwarfs?

>>97540502
Really good, the Repulsive is basically a Retribution class BB with a hefty discount.

>>97549016
>it's only going to get worse
Please no

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>>97547338
It just looks Frankenstein. There is no transition from Pre-Horus to Post-Horus design but just mixed. I dont like the prow but i understand that it is a transition from the flat Chaos form to the modern Imperial prows.

>>97547162
I ordered some escorts after they said they will discountinue BFG. It was inside Europe and i choose the delivery to a shop. So i avoided the shipping costs.

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>>97547463
>Armpit free costume
>Must be fanart
>Look it up
>It was a real design
What coomer designed that! How dumb.

>>97538699
Delaque already have their own ancient xeno patron. If anything they would be the less likely to be GSC since they share a hivemind.

>>97549236
>dumb
I bet it solves a lot of chafing problems.

>>97548659
>bit
no, I sprayed whole thing.

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Finished my Inquisitor 28mm Repentia!

>>97549515
Their entire deal is that they don't wear any armor or use any weapon but the eviscerator, they're meant to be exposed flesh all over as a sign that their devoion is more important than their life, canonically most of them die in their first deployment.

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>>97549525
Yeah, I know. But I liked this Blanche version. Official 54mm Model looks kinda..strange.

>>97549554
>Official
3D print, the nice thing is scaling up is never a problem, though it looks like you went 28/32 anyway.
The only available lore accurate Repentia are STL's now AFAIK anyway.

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New WIP progress image for the tomb world I'm still working on. Pictured:
>finished(?) teleport pads
>finished(?) rubble bits
I might go back to these once the rest of the build to clean them up, but for now they're classed as done
>wall in the same state as before, the green is done but that's it
>one corner, on which I've applied the first layer of white to the appropriate bits
>the two energy field type doors, which I can pretty confidently call done

>>97548062
I think it may opposite. The team has some great tools but lacks any meaningful ranged weapons, and needs to have charges they can make that their opponents can't. Mid to low range players are probably the ones whining honestly. I play another fellow in my league that has murder wing as well, I'll see how they do in a second game against wreckas

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>>97545708
Cool diorama. I don't suppose you'd be willing to let me know where ya got it?

>>97550043
digital kitbashed stl's, thingiverse is MechMarch, not on there though, have to wait til i move my stuff to cults, busy farmdays right now

>>97549162
Chorfs is chaos dwarfs. There were 3 divisions of 6 coaches in the league. In my division I had orks, nurgle, goblins, underworld ogres and my skaven. I also played a dark elf team from one of the other divisions in the preliminary final.

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Maybe it's a pointless complaint and I should be grateful to have opponents for specialist games at all, but I hate that all our local people think they're too unique and cool to play anything "normal".

I'm talking a Necromunda campaign without a single house gang and two guys using Venators to shoehorn in inquisition gangs. Kill Team where no one has something uncomplicated and casual like Wrecka Crew or Angels of Death. A Mordheim campaign where 3 dudes are playing Skaven but there isn't a single Empire/Mercenaries player.

>>97551069
Get pregnant

>>97551069
Too many WAACfags ITT for this complaint to be treated seriously, you're going to get a lot of flak here by anons who hate house gangs and only want to play venators and enforcers.

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>>97551126

No one hates house gangs, they just don't agree with you when you melt down over the fact that venators and Enforcers exist in Necromunda without your permission.

>>97551069

What gang are you playing in your current Necromunda campaign? Ive found that a lot of new players go with Venators so they can dip their toe and use models they already own, but a lot of them go on to use House gangs once they get into the game and lore. Set the example. And, build some terrain.

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>>97547463
>>97549236
Wow, I didn't even notice the pits at first

Just how good/necessary are carriers in BFG? Working on a gothic sector fleet, and a pair of dictators is expensive, a mars and dictator even more so if I want to try and slip a nova cannon in.
Semi-related, would it be better to have a pair of tyrants with the range upgrade or one overlord?

>>97551651
>im playing OP faction because I dont want to buy minis until I know I like the game
Bullshit, you can use your existing minis as proxies for anything, then invest in proper minis when you know you like it.

>>97551651
NTA but I agree on bullshit. I'm making a gang and I don't even ;lay Necromunda, just doing them for display and to have on hand if I run into a Necromunda group rather than a group for my preferred games.
When you're into small force specialist games it pays to have something on hand for the adjacent games, a gang, a blood bowl team, a kill team, a small gothic fleet, some battlemechs and/or a small epic army are all easy to acquire with printing and cheap too as well as being fun to build and paint.

>>97549236
It's Catwoman, my guy. Basically the original capeshit sexpot. If anyone gets to have an insane coomer outfit and be totally justified it's Selina.

>>97551069
>A Mordheim campaign where 3 dudes are playing Skaven but there isn't a single Empire/Mercenaries player.
This isn't WAACfaggotry or special snowflake syndrome, it's just because most TOW fans are furries coming from Vermintide or TWW.

>>97551069
Something I love about my group is there's a lot of "no one plays them so I will give them a shot"
We had a campaign with 4 Ogryns gangs because of that.

>>97553559
Funny if players are so much in sync.

>>97549054
He means print them

Is Necroraw dead?

>>97553790
Yea

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>>97553790

They've been having issues


>>97552197

In my current group there's a Delaque player who tried out the game using their Kill Team as Venators. They also didn't seem OP. I dont think Ive ever seen a Venators gang win a game yet.

>>97552295

I think you are overestimating how deep some people are into the hobby. Some people will definitely end up with a team for each possible game, but everyone's got to start somewhere.If a person only has one army, perhaps the first they've built and painted, they want to use it. Letting them use those models means you het a new player into the game now, rather than telling them to fuck off until they've got a house gang painted.

>>97549368
It poses a risk to hurt you. She is an athlete and cat burglat. Means she might have to climb and cut her pit.

>>97552123
Because you are no coomer! Or prude!

>>97552339
Sure, but armpits? Thats probably the designers fetish!

>>97549205
Only with GW. There's other companies doing plastic kits today at better prices than GW did in 2005.

>>97554017
>Sure, but armpits? Thats probably the designers fetish!
I am not sure why but there are sportswears that have that as well. It is supposed to help vent heat swet and so work against odor. would make sense for a woman a cat and an thief to concern with smell and heat regulation.

>>97554008
>ever seen a Venators gang win
Thatis part und of venators are a common newcomer gang and thats why they do not know how toplay either the game nor the team.

>>97554008
>They also didn't seem OP
3 Wound leader on multiple profiles, Psyker with special and very good will, beastman with frenzon, extremely cheap Squat, "Van Saar" profiles, Pick any skill.

>>97551069
There are no OGs left. Everyone wants to be a snitch, a copper or a glowie. Sad times indeed.

>>97554174
>>97554224


Yeah, I guess so. Admittedly, all the gaming I do is with people from my pre existing social circles, so it could be that game-fucking balance issues with WAAC autists at the LGS wouldn't be noticed in a fun game between buddies.

>>97554301
At least in South America the guys playing wargames, do not find gangs cool, after all Narcos are gangs and they are not cool. So anyone even corrupt cops that kill narcos are way cooler.
Guess something similar happen in the North. Gangs today are not cool, they are mostly niggers and sand niggers shooting each other over stupid shit so anyone that put them down ends looking cooler by comparison.

I've been starting to look at Mordheim stuff for the first time, and I notice that the Tomb Guardian warband was apparently released with a bunch of glaring rules problems/inconsistencies.
Is anyone aware of a 'fixed' version of those warband rules, or ways to address them?
I love me some kangz but its a little depressing to see them saddled with broken mechanics.

>>97554017
If you think a skintight leather suit is protective, you're a moron.

>>97554464
Thirdies really do have low IQ eh?
I hate black rap gangsta culture too, yet I can distinguish the world of difference between that subhuman shit and what is portrayed in the Necromunda lore.

>>97554697
Try to explain why someone would prefer to play a cop instead of a ganger anon.
Beside there is a common joke saying the Necromunda is like Latam but safer.

>>97554736
It's definitely an intellect issue if you can't distinguish real life from fantasy.
As I said, I despise subhuman ghetto thug bullshit, yet I have absolutely no issue in distinguishing Necromunda gangs from that as being two wholly different and unrelated things that share nothing in common.

>>97554736
>we hate gangs
>so we choose to play the game about gangs
You could always play Blood Bowl, Mordheim or Kill Team instead.

>>97543657
Going from 1 to 6
>Wound -1
>Flesh Wound
>Flesh Wound
>Strength +1
>Toughness +1
>WS/BS +1 (Mas +2, if both stats are max out get +1 Movement)
Not convince thought. Was thinking of giving them Blast 3" and range Sx3 if anyone pick them up and threw them. Making the the effect on hit

>>97554749
Anon just pointing out why people would think something else would be cooler and play that. No one is saying necromunda is real get a grip.

>>97554823
>we compare it to a real place
You ever tried leaving fantasy and reality separate from each other?

>>97554174
I know of sport tank tops. They dont cover the pits. But something like Catwoman looks weird.

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>>97554689
Say that to divers. And there is a difference of bare skin rubbing on metal or concrete or have some sportswear between your skin and the surface.

>>97554830
Are you a woman?

Resident Necro-Autismo, could you give us a detailed post explaining how to play, or discuss, Necromunda in a way that doesn't trigger you into a meltdown? It might go a long way toward keeping you from repeatedly shitting up threads.

>>97554757
If KT had similar rules, yea i would. No interestin fantasy.

>>97554966
It does yes. But it makes kinda sense.

Anyone have reccomendations for a good source of battlefleet gothic models for someone who doesn't have a 3d printer?

>>97554998
I would say that to a diver, plenty get cut on corals and the ones who get attacked by sharks don't experience anything remotely like protection from their neoprene suits.
Divers who need actual armor wear full body chainmail suits.

>>97555761
My recommendation is to find someone who does have a 3d printer.

>>97555761
>>97555785
They're not expensive and getting one will save you far more than it's cost in the following years of hobbying after you get it.

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>>97554689
Depends entirely what it's made of and what you're looking to protect yourself against.

>>97556025
The purpose of catwoman's suit is adhering to the constraint that she could not be depicted as just nude.

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>>97556071
Like how Kruellagh was painted to have a bodysuit while the designer made her with the idea of just having a Borat bikini?

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>>97555761
scourgescenics or printforge3d is where I got all of mine, both are good if you're in bongland
pic is a repost but related
>>97555998
That's true, but having to sacrifice a/part of a room of your house to avoid toxic gas is a different kind of cost

>>97555784
Good point. Touche.

>>97557184
You do not have to sacrifice a room, glade plugins are more fucking toxic for fuck's sake.

>>97554770
Ws/Bs -1 in a raduis of the one hit because of rotten stench if rotten.
+1Ws/Bs If stimmed.
+1Wound if normal (and eaten. fleschwound if hit)
-1wound if poisoned
Blast if painted granade
stuff like that? I would not give them blast in general but Sx3 sound good.

Is this where we come to talk about kill team now that /ktg/ is (finally) dead?
I'm running my death korps against angels of death next week and I haven't played kreig since early last edition. Any tips?
Here's a mega with a bunch of scans from the last thread FWIW
https://mega.nz/folder/0a10kTyb#Kro6lhFGnt9hmfuJCT3BKQ

>>97558249
>Is this where we come to talk about kill team now that /ktg/ is (finally) dead?
Bsically yes.
>Any tips?
Not really, Angels are strong in raw battle, Reroll or flatout just get positive dicerolls n stuff. So if they look at your guys they are often dead and they just refuse to die. If their sniper is in a good position there is more or less nothing you can do focus on the melee guys if any because those are often the objective grabbers or those that prevent you from getting objetives. Stack your buffs good on your gunners to make them count, shooting with lasguns is most of the time useless and just exposes your dudes (only shoot with them if they are dead anyway or he cannot shoot back OR you have to prepare the stratagem for your gunners rerolls). Melee is pretty useless too so using everyone else just to bodyblock or play objectives is best you can do most of the time.

>>97558249
>>97558394
No, fuck off, you were never wanted here and you couldn't even keep your game alive for 2 whole years.

>>97558399
I love you too.
Anyways >>97558249
there are more trolls and haters in here then ktg had the last year or so.

>>97558441
and yet our games have maintained playerbases for decades, so maybe piss off and learn to gatekeep your shit from WAACfags.

>>97558444
I still play killteam with friends and a local group
Just because a game isn't able to sustain a general all by itself doesn't mean its dead

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>>97547014
A grand cruiser needs a lot of work to get the superstructure aligned properly so it's not drooping in the back and front under its own weight. The engines could stand to be a bit larger too

>>97556164
Do we have evidence? Show me

>>97558249
Krieg got squatted, stop playing illegal teams

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>>97558541
Do you talk about the models or in-universe wise?

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>>97558902
There is no hard evidence, but the model can be painted nude no problem. And if you look at the period art of her, in it there's more details across her body, indicating a techy body suit.

>>97558233
The if conditions I think it is too much. Since I'm aiming for the local Necromunda group so I doubt they'll have a lot of status effect things outside of blaze and flash.

>>97559935
I meant the most things more fluff, The egg is stimmed or poisoned or stuff like that just as an explanation on why the egg does that effekt not that the ganger has to be stimmed befor or something.

>>97559990
Ah I get it.
My orginal idea was the egg being tokens for the gangs and that the npc could also drop them.
So the eggs having half good and half bad result to encourage the gathering and usage of them.

>>97545317
They fill slightly different niches. If you want a fleshy turret that will be the bane of games after a single BS or skill increase, go with the Tilean. The elf meanwhile can reveal hidden from a fair distance and contributes to your economy (don't sneer at a +/-1) in between firing off slightly weaker shots compared to the Tilean.

>>97559351
Modelwise. The front parts the hold the prow in place need to be filed extensivley and pinned so it sits straight then the gaps need to be filled. The parts that hold the midships to the stern need to be filed so they're straight and then pinned in two spots so it actually stays, and then the gaps need to be filled. Then that chaos-esque mantle above the engines needs a plasticard seat so it doesn't droop and so the bridge sits up straight.
And somtimes the top chaos crusier batteries need to be adjusted so they're even.

I now settled for my escher list to:
Queen Needle rifle, servo claw
Matriarch chainsword laspistol
Matriarch shottun
all 3 mesh and undersuite
2x ganger sister lasgun mesh
2x little sister las pistol
little sistersutopistol
little sister throwing knives

at least somewhat just fun equip but not completly useless i believe.

Necromunda gangs with 5 delaque do not work right? I got 5 models for free and have no idea what i should do with them.

>>97564945
You can play with any list, those will work fine if you only use scenario that deploy around 6 people and less. For overall Necromunda scenarios you'll want around 8-9 fighters at start, and a whisper merchant for delaque.

Also need weapon bits because the weapons that come with base delaque kits sucks.

>>97565090
Does sound rather discouraging. Thanks non the less.

>>97565106
You can use those models as part of Venator gang, basically Venators are all you can eat buffet, you can pick and choose gangers from a bunch of different gangs or races. Either way you need to get more models.

>>97558249
Do you have Nightmare book scan maybe? I can't find it even on trannygram groups

>>97565110
No wonder people end using Venator or Enforcer.
One allows to use whatever models you already have and other the base kit is good enough to work even if you just go with something dumb like bolter spam.

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>>97565227
>ultimate your dudes game
>not making any dudes, just shoehorning in any shit that sort of fits from 40k or KT, because a £25 box of gangers and the time it takes to paint 8-9 blokes is just too much of a commitment
Grim

>>97565322
>thinking your dudes NEED to be from the original game and cannot be fromother system because they are not that kind of your dudes others like...
that is grim

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>>97565227
Enforcers are result of old tales from Necronarg and edgy dude who want to be the authority and his favorite movie is of course Dredd 2012.

>>97565336
I think and said no such thing, my necromunda collection has minis and bits from everywhere.
But they were bought, built and based with necromunda in mind, I didnt just pull my square, swamp-based ToW chaos spawn and shove it into chaos helots list because I got bored of old world.

>>97565391
>I didn't just pull my square, swamp-based ToW chaos spawn and shove it into chaos helots list because I got bored of old world.
What kind of "pretending to not understand" and reddit levels of bad faith posting is this?
No one is saying that or even implying that.

>>97565427
>No one is saying that or even implying that.
see
>>97565227
>One allows to use whatever models you already have

>>97558249
No fuck off

>>97565454
Oh so you are not pretending to not understand you are just retarded.

>>97565468
Explain where I am wrong. If you are using models you already own and not building them from scratch, then by definition you are not building a gang, you're just transplanting it from another game.
I'm not interested in playing against guardsmen or starstriders shoved into a venators list

>>97565499
Now you are changing the argument.
First you mention swamp base ToW Chaos spawn and now you mention the perfectly reasonable starstriders that can work as outcast delegation or venators as some outrageous thing.
Reddit levels of bad faith posting

>>97565507
I changed nothing, if you dust off your unconverted starstriders killteam and say
>they venators now
im not interested, venators are the lazy mans gang

>>97565520
The bitch kept going and going

>>97565507

Anything you want to field as venators works perfectly fine. You are wasting your time arguing with the resident autist.

>>97565597
Not even me, seems like autismo argues with troll. I stopped after my first comment and someone else took over just to bicker around.

>>97565594
>>97565597
Well its you guys who are gonna have to convince a group of guys to play, if you're able to do that then good for you, I'm simply suggesting that you might see a lack of enthusiasm in a narrative and conversion-heavy game when you plop your very obvious killteam down and say
>venator

>>97563225
I guess thats when you use metal. The battleships are very heavy too. And i can remember that the weapon bridge was a tricky thing to assemble. In plastic they would be better, easier to build and lighter on the base.

>>97565766
>conversion-heavy
>literally can play the game with a single box per gang
See this why people call you bad faith and reddit posting.

>>97565838
Uh yeah conversion is a pretty core part of the game, especially once you start using the trading post during a campaign, you think you're gonna pull all those options out of a gang or upgrade box? Even some of the house list options at gang creation require conversion work

>>97566047

You could also just not purchase items you can't model.
Dude, I used to think you were trolling
Now I'm convinced you're just the sort of unsocialized autobot that gets pissy if others are having fun "wrong".

>>97566047
>>97566077
Necromunda is not WYSIWYG, That is gay
Venators are also gay
Using kill team or 40k minis because you're a faggot is also gay

>>97566077
You can play and have fun however you want, you can use unpainted intercessors or fantasy models as proxies if you like, my point is you'll struggle to find a group of other players willing to put up with it, so you'll probably be playing by yourself
>>97566119
True its not Stillmania-tier wysiwyg and there's a lot of wiggle-room, but if someone puts down a ganger with an autogun and then tells it counts-as a missile launcher or lascannon I'm out.

>>97566147
I do agree your heavy should have a heavy weapon, it's why my Escher gang is not 8-9 models, it is 28 models.
As to your other point I'd like to remind everyone of the anon who posted in a recent thread about getting kicked out of his playgroup for doing Corpse Grinders followed by Venators despite kitbashing his models, though he admitted to not painting them but was /going/ to commission a painter.
So presumably the corpse grinders also got painted and kitbashed, showing that originality in the models and maing them specific for is not necessarily helpful if you're going to play OP bullshit like a fag.
I too would kick someone from the group, or at least vote to do so if they're playing that crap and likewise if they're bringing kill team/40k minis from whatever faction they had laying around.

>>97542244
Still I love how the old Eldar ships look.

>>97563115
Thanks. It seems like Tilean might be a better option for me, as I'm currently lacking range and my options are pretty shit and not worth taking over melee.
Phrased another way: Is Tilean better than the Elf if I'm looking to have some solid range options on the table?

can i paint my angels of death for kill team with black silver and gold so i can also play them in my chaos army or would that be dumb


or should I go with a alpharius theme

>>97566947
They're your minis. You can paint them any colours you wish.

>>97566947
Make a chaos conversion out of them as a little project. Surely, you must have the bits.

>>97566947
No one cares what color your AoD are
They're explicitly the most chapter-variable team

>>97566947
Paint them however you want, but if you don't also convert them with chaos bits they'll look out of place in your wider chaos army by being too smooth and round.

>>97566947
could also just proxy legionaries as AoD

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Just had a game against my buddy! We're both still new so it was mostly a slug fest with little objective play. I usedy Blooded for the first time and was pretty surprised with how deadly they get once you start stacking bonuses on them with blooded tokens and stimms. I ended up with just 4 guys left after wiping out the Ultramarines (He only had 3 left by end of turning point 2 so I played more reckless because I had so many guys left to trade). My buddy has only played against elite teams before so I think he was feeling pretty overwhelmed at the start with just how many targets he had. Bloodeds Strat Bitter Demise came in clutch so many times and my Ogryn was an absolute beast early game forcing marines off object and killing one in melee and dropping another with a lucky 6 roll on Bitter Demise once they did manage to bring him down.
Really loving this game as a nice break from the end of 10th edition.

>>97568280
Sounds like you got a good feel for Blooded's gameplan. They're very satifying when you're able to properly full send into the enemy
Being able to just hand out Relentless with stimms is pretty unique to them too

>>97565188
Added it to the KT21 folder
>trannygram
find a ruski if you want scans

>>97551069
>necromunda with no house gang
My lobster, too buttery. My steak, too juicy.
Ironhead squats count as a house gang with how many people play them.
>no uncomplicated kts
Thats actually bad
>rat party

>>97554640
An easy fix, just make it so Tomb Guardians can gain experience, AND increase their limit from 2 to 4. This will make sense once you play a couple of games.

That being said, Mordheim is full of rules problems and inconsistencies. It's fine and plenty of fun if you are playing casually with friends - the solutions to these problems will usually be obvious. However if you are playing with WAAC fags dont bother.

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I'm wondering, since GW used Kill Team as backdoor for updated kits and to sell a few more of them, do you think they'll add the updated Vanguard Vets as a kill team once they get a new sculpt? They already added a jump pack squad and there's no such thing as too many marines for them.

>>97570740
Probably not but who knows.

>>97569580
thanks

>>97570740
Nah, those will be in 11th edition starter like Stenguard
Grey Knights will show up in Kill Team similar to Deathwatch

>>97571000
Yeah an updated Grey Knights strike team has Kill Team written all over it. Lots of teleporter shenanigans for sure with it.

>>97571115
An all psyker team in the game after the insidians release is going to be a struggle though. They've sort of painted themselves into a corner for teams with important psyker operatives.

>>97570740
>that beautiful kit
>going to be replaced
>round jump packs incoming
>far less posing options
>probably far fewer weapon options going by how shit the DW kit is
>half as varied decorations
I really hope there eventually comes a day when kits come back to being the same quality as they were just before primaris released.

>>97570400
>play xenos
Same bucket as venators, enforcers and corpse grinders.

>>97566352
Most definitely. Tilean is up there with Warlock for hireling power top tier, within the core rules at least (fuck the Witch)

>>97571267
Nice. I'll consider both. Got a league starting up in the spring. I like the idea of the Warlock. Why's he so good? Because he can zoom around to objectives?

>>97571169
Modern GW were infested with soulless and lazy corporate tourists and the depressing part is retards will clap like seal and marvel at new slop products like they did a good job.

>>97570520
Thanks for the advice. Any suggestions on how to handle their chariot and the fact that the lord apparently can't even drive it?

Either way I was just considering trying it out with some friends as a fantasy alternative to our kill team games.

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I'm a 30k player and my friends and I are thinking of getting into kill team, what teams would you recommend for Alpha Legion, Death Guard, mechanicum, and solar Auxilia?

I'm thinking deathwatch for AL (special ammo, versatility) and vet guardsmen for Auxilia but I'd love some advice from people that know the game.

>>97572448
>my friends and I are thinking of getting into kill team
dont. Its dogshit.

>>97572455
Do you know of a good alternative for cqb with individual models? I have heard a lot of praise for the kill team ruleset but if you have other suggestions I'll check them out.

>>97572448
>vet guardsmen for Auxilia
The other guard teams add a bit of asymmetry and different playstyles as well, if you want more melee with blooded or crossfire stuff with brood brothers/wyrmblade

>>97572448
>Alpha Legion
Pretty much any marine team except plague marines and warpcoven could do it honestly, maybe discount wolf scouts as well. I've seen several alpha legion teams used as phobos strike team.
>Death Guard
Obviously there's plague marines.
>mechanicum
Luckily they have two teams to choose from, depending on if you want servitors or skitarii/sicarians.
>solar Auxilia
No idea if they're at all different from guardsmen but any of the guard themed teams would most likely work. Kasrkin and vetguard are obviously the clearest choices but others like brood brothers could work equally well.

>>97572480

Necromunda is great, but be forewarned that a resident subnormal will endlessly shit up this thread if you mention using a gang he doesn't personally like.

>>97573241
There's no such thing as a gang I don't like.

>>97572448
>>97572448
>Alphas
Any marine team really. Deathwatch or Phobos have the most tricksy stuff
>DG
Plague marines, nuff said
>Mechanicum
Hunter Clade or Battleclade, depending
>Auxilia
Take your pick of GEQ teams, but Kasrkin are probably closest

If I started Necromunda, I'd pick Squat Prospectors.

>>97573286
Sounds like Kill Team is more your speed then.

>>97573253
Venators

>>97573487
Not a gang.

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>lost 1015 gang rating in a single game
Ask me anything

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Does anyone have a digital (not scanned) PDF for the Kill Team 2018 Commanders book? I found them for Core Manual, Elites, and Annual 2019 easily enough, but Commanders still eludes me even though I do see that it was once available on Warhammer Digital.

>>97573912
How did that happen? Did every champion in your gang fall into a grinder and come out with multiple critical injuries?

Any potential of a tyranid killteam?

>>97574678
Raveners exist

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>>97574689
Forgive my blindness. These are gross looking, I like them

>>97574375
Only had one leader and one champ on my roster and both got critical injuries in the same game, as well as a ganger getting a memorable death and another getting captured.

>>97571925
The lord can't drive the chariot since he does not have access to academic skills. The fix here would be to allow him access to academic skills, which would be fine imo, OR just allow him to take the drive chariot skill as he levels up. Both are easy solutions. Again, this will make more sense as you play a few games.

Trying out a few games will honestly be easier then committing to a campaign initially. The game can be quite cruel if you do not know what you are doing, that being said, it is a lot of fun.

Check out mordheimer<dot>net - This gives you a list of all the warbands and some available rules.

>>97574934
Yes, I already found broheim/mordheimer to use as a reference
And of course we'd do some intro/learning games via TTS before settling into anything serious

Now that the dust has settled, is darkwater awesome enough to be worth five other board games?

>>97537396
I'm new to Kill Team and retarded.
Where on wahapedia does it mention how universal&faction equipment works? I don't see any limit mentioned.

Can’t they just keep the kill team posts in their he 40k general?

>>97575225
https://wahapedia.ru/kill-team3/the-rules/approved-ops-2025/
In the select operatives section
>Each player secretly selects up to four equipment options. Each option cannot be selected more than once per player. They then reveal their selections simultaneously.

>>97575237
because they're obnoxious faggots, knowing they aren't wanted here makes it better for them.

>>97575250
Thanks, didn't expect such a quick response.

>>97574888
One leader one champ and two gangers with a gangratin of 1015? must have a hell of equipment ey? (still new to the game so no idea if that is normal later on).

>>97575369
Second cycle but my leader was 445, champ was 375, and a 95 and 100 cred ganger

>>97575499
Why was the leader and champ so high?

>>97575514
I maxed out cherub servitors and bought carapace for the leader, and put a fire pile on the champion

>>97575222
for what it is, its fine. Just fine. I dont think its worth its price point but I dont dislike anything about it. The price, yeah, could be cheaper, but the group I bought it with all seemed to enjoy it. And I know at least 2 of them would have been upfront with not liking the game if they wanted to. Really just hope they try and make it into a proper rpg next time regardless of everything. Thats the one thing that did get complained about, the pre written story was fine and all but we would have liked to be more immersed into it.

>>97575526
Sounds funny. Still sorry for your loss.

Blood bowl is a scam. It markets itself to be like American football but plays nothing like American football. "The game of fantasy football" my ass.

>>97575852
Aktually it is more supposed like classic (british) rugby.

>>97570520
>It's fine and plenty of fun if you are playing casually with friends - the solutions to these problems will usually be obvious. However if you are playing with WAAC fags dont bother.
Can you give me some examples of WAAC faggotry as it relates to Mordheim? I'm learning the game and want to optimize my warband so I'm not fucked/do well but imy also concerned about being perceived as a minmaxer

>>97575882
Well I've played Rugbly and Rugbly is a fast moving game. Blood bowl is boring. Only 16 turns to simulate gridiron.

>>97575852
It markets itself to be a PARODY of football, a MOCKERY of sportsball jock idiots for the enjoyment of superior nerd chads.

>>97575977
Go play videogames then or play blood bowl in realtime instead of turnbased.

>>97575222
It's a game for easily impressed simpletons. Warhammer Quest is like a bowl of instant noodle, with good quality topping (miniature) sold to you at the highest possible price like it's a top tier meal, and it will remain this way for many years to come.

You get even less playable characters this time than Blackstone or Cursed City. And GW should stop making "female knight with a 2 handed sword" character, they made one in Cursed City and one in Dark Water, and both look dogshit ugly.

Do people still play Inq28? How is it? More like DnD or still more like Pve Necromunda?

>>97571622
That's just one reason, the entire spell list is retarded. Since he gets 2 spells upon hiring, a bad combo can leave him a bit ineffective but most of the time he's a danger. Keep in mind that spells can be used in combat and after running unless otherwise stated.
>fires of uzhul
Simple fireball that hits the first thing it encounters, positioning is important so you can charge with one guy, use the warlock to blast him from the side (don't hit your dude) then your melee guy can take advantage of the injury.
>flight of zimmerman
You noticed this one, combined with a run you can send him almost halfway across a board grabbing all the treasure. Also good for getting into advantageous sniping spots if you get one of those sniper spells.
>dread of aramar
Situational depending on enemy warband. Send someone running from combat and get free hits. Reminder that if the closest model is an enemy model (yours) then the fleeing model CANNOT RALLY their turn and will keep running.
>silver arrows of arha
The real bullshit. D6+2 arrows that IGNORE cover, range, movement modifiers so 99% of the time you're hitting at base BS. Sure the warlock starts at BS2 but one BS increase and now that's 3-8 arrows hitting on 4+. Find a sniper nest and become a vengeful god putting in the shots of up to 8 extra warband members. Can't be used in combat, have to be all aimed at one guy.
>luck of shemtek
Kind of meh for a warlock unless he gets the next spell, but this becomes overpowered in the hands of an actual hero with academic+arcane lore+tome of magic progression. Reroll all failed dice rolls on a more combat oriented guy, yes please.
>sword of rezhebel
Turns the warlock into a scary force in combat so he joins your dudes. Also great for aforementioned heroes who'd really love the + 2S 1A 2WS. Just remember the leadership test to maintain it, if you pass you're good to use your other spells (example, cast sword, maintain next turn, zimmerman zoom into combat or lucky rerolls)

>>97576314
Vanishingly few Id imagine, its a game you're very likely going to have to introduce to your group if you want to play it

>>97573306
Not a kill team box, dummy.

>>97575902

Ive got no experience with Mordheim, but the standard way to avoid WAAC behaviour in any skirmish game is to diversify load outs, skill sets, and troop types.

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>>97575237
>>97575267

>>97577327
I will only tolerate Kill Team as long it is Kill Team from the 4th edition 40k rulebook. Otherwise it can go and stay go.

we need to take a page from /hwg/ and call Kill Team stuff 'schizo content'

/ktg/ has hit a content drought period... Oh wait they didn't, and somehow miraculously it's still dead. Could it be GW's own hubris releasing new products with a steadily price hike with extreme limited quantity to make sure normies (aka non-scalper) and poorfags won't ever get their hands on their products ever again.

>>97576400
Appreciate the full rundown. The Warlock seems like a really fun hired sword but maybe less reliable than Tilean for damage and as someone to augment my ranged capabilities. I'll have to give it a think

>>97577399
The only schizo content in this thread is the fag flipping his wig every time someone mentions venators.

>>97575267
What's the issue with Kill Team posting?

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>>97577607
>Venators!
>oh say it again
>Venators!

Is the new Shelob model a fucking FOMO box or what? I can't get it anywhere.

>>97577686
You arent allowed to buy her until you claim the shelob that is in your walls.

>>97577686
Its called " The Path of Cirith Ungol ". Search that to actually find it.

What happens if your gang runs out of fighters in Cinderak Burning?

>>97580152
You go home and never return.

>>97580708
Can't buy gangers in downtime then?

Is hive secundus decent for a singleplayer or two player coop experience?

>>97581223
Yes but only for the Spyrer player. They could have (easily) made Malstrain an awesome gang, if they gave a shit.

>>97581264
If you say only for the Spyrer player, does that mean someone NEEDS to play Malstrain? (in that case it would neither be singleplayer nor two player coop)

>>97581323
https://www.necroraw.com.ru/docs/campaigns/other-campaigns/underhells-campaign/

You can read the write up version for yourself. There aren't really much agency or strategy for the Genestealers, the Genestealer from Space Hulk has more strategic depth than this. You can control both side by yourself, but it was intended for them to be controlled by the abitrator, an experienced player who can help you with rule and maybe narrate the game to make it more exciting.

>>97581430
Thanks, sadly it does not really seem to work like i hoped.

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Has anyone made a Brewhouse Brawl board? I think the original had squares at 25mm but I'm wondering if that's too small considering a lot of Orks are now 30mm. Anyone got any experience on either of these?

>>97564709
What the

>>97575514
You can get super high through time, I had a 600 Queen once.
Had heaps of gear and so much XP she had insane levels of advancements.
And a phyrr cat.
She was an absolute monster in melee

>>97581492

Run the Book of Desolation "Underhells Campaign" instead of the Hive Secundus one.

https://www.necroraw.com.ru/docs/campaigns/underhells-campaign/