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▶What is Kingdom Death?
Kingdom Death is a tabletop miniature brand stared by Adam Poots and operated by himself and his Team that later spun off into a miniature based bored game funded by two very successful Kickstarter campaigns.

▶What is Kingdom Death: Monster?
Monster is a Nightmare Horror cooperative boss battler/miniature hobby game for 1-4 players about hope in a strange world of bizarre monstrosities and perpetually darkness. Players take on the role of survivors that band together to form a settlement, fighting monsters, crafting weapons and gear, and developing their civilization to ensure survival from generation to generation.

Prologue Narration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNLc8dHv0Ac

The Game is broken up into 3 phases:
1. During your Hunt Phase your band of survivors traverse the world of KD in pursuit of their quarry.
2. After successfully tracking your quarry you will begin the Showdown Phase, where you must fell these horrific creatures in order to acquire precious resources.
3. After the battle, your survivors wander home with loot in hand to begin the Settlement Phase. Arm yourself by developing new weapons and bizarre structures to prepare for next year's hunt.

A successful game campaign takes place over the course of 25 to 30 'lantern years' maximum, marked by completing one full phase cycle. Watch as your settlement grows and witness the survivors write their own narrative as they age. Hone your strategy and learn from your mistakes to overcome the immense odds in this cruel and twisted nightmare scape.

▶tldr
Final Fantasy Tactics meets Dark Souls meets Monster Hunter meets Civilization with the setting of the eclipse in Berserk but shit just stayed that way.

▶Official Sites
http://kingdomdeath.com/
https://kingdomdeath.com/news
https://kingdomdeath.com/rules/living-glossary

previous lantern year:
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Is the majority of th stuff in resin
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>>97538663
CALL ME A FAGGOT ALL YOU WANT. BUT I WANT THE BEEFCAKIEST KDM MINI.

I have enough big titty sluts to last a lifetime and a man can be interested in balancing the scales some. I've seen a couple of the beefcakey KDM dudes, so... I come begging your guidance.

Also the hottest monster slut in this game. I don't play this but I like the minis for my D&d.
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>>97538673
faggot.
but with that being said most of the guys are beefcakes, the hercules lookig bone eater is one of the beefiest, he's dick is out but since your a fag I don't think thats a problem.
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>>97538785
meant here >>97538679
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>>97538785
Thank you for this gift; I'm not gonna lie all of the bone(r)eaters, male and female, are right up my alley.

I love you anon.
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>>97538679
i gotchu bub
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>>97538679
>Also the hottest monster slut in this game
the game doesn't have monster sluts, all the monsters are...well monsters, all the sluts are human, the only ones that come close are the parasite queen and oblivion mosquito but even then...
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>>97538992
Honestly desu I regret not picking up screaming god during the pre-order now. I wasn't feeling the old parasite queen render but the new one is so much better and fits my criteria of "could plausibly leave in my display case when my parents visit" for expansions
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>>97538979
Eh, I can make do with him anyway.

>>97538992
Yeah that's what I figured but I don't mind that. I was only a bit facetious but I do like the blending of horror and erotica I've seen from KDM minis and I figured it'd have something like that. I LOVE the Parasite Queen (if it's the one on the left) she's so evocative.

>>97539028
Fuck thius one's gorgeous. So which one's the latest? This one?
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>>97539041
Yeah the one with the veil is the final parasite queen, was in the screaming god update last month.
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>>97539119
I might have to get more into this game, I only knew about it from seeing the odd post here and there in /tg/ but this is the first time I've genuinely looked into the minis and the designs more than just a passing glance and they're all so good.
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>>97539152
they are really good but also really expensive, you get what you pay for I guess.
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>>97538992
>the game doesn't have monster sluts
Have you not seen the Red Witches?
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>>97542103
>human women but tall
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>>97542135
Oh sorry, didn't realise you wanted animal sluts and not monster sluts.
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>>97542149
I want MONSTER sluts
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>>97538992
Sunstalker is canonically female.

There's your monster slut.
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>>97542716
actually so is frogdog, she births puppies and has massive tits

there's your monster slut x2
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>>97538679
>>97542257
Image, clockwise from top left:
>Knowledge cards from Gambler's Chest
>Lotus monster from Abyssal Woods (not yet released)
>Honeycomb Weaver (both varieties, expected Autumn 2026(?))
>Disciples of the Witch from Abyssal Woods (miniatures already released, not gameplay content, yet)

Lowkey loving the hornyposting anon. the sexy minis are what attracted me initially also, but there's so much to stay for after that.
some things:
>monster sluts
Other anons have already mentioned the parasite queen and oblivion mosquito (the Sunstalker and Frogdog... don't count) But upcoming there is the Honeycomb Weaver, and later, once Abyssal Woods comes out, Lotus. The Weaver is a bit... horrifying but it might do.
>Beefcake
In campaigns of Death there's going to be a People of the Mirrorstone campaign - literally body builders of both genders posing in front of a huge silver orb as a way to distract themselves from the darkness; all the miniatures shown, male and female are very beefy and show plenty of skin.
>Males more generally
We're getting the Flower Witch and her disciples in Abyssal Woods, and there's a pair of flower wizard twinks who show a bit of abs and chest. I've always had a soft spot for them.
>more horny stuff
the Gambler's Chest in general has a fair bit of extremely erotic artwork, often mixed with horror. Much stepped up from the base game. (It still serves the theme however; personally I don't feel it's gratuitous. quite graphic, though.)
>I kind of want to get into it
TTS is the easiest way; it's free, but lacks Gambler's Chest, and later expansions (maybe not completely but they're not as easy to find).
The Simulator is the next "cheapest" option, and directly supports KD:M, but it's very much early alpha, clunky compared to TTS, and often buggy. It does, however have the Gambler's Chest and the latest expansions.
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>>97542759
>>97542773
The sunstalker is not a slut, she's a strong independent qwueen unhappily married to the dragon king, who she domestically abuses
Likewise, the frog dog is a shrew of a milf who everybody recoils from after she got divorced with her horde of unbehaved children
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>>97538679
Same, I wish they at least did a EoD or a vignette with 4 guys
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So, do you y'all feel the need to use the tier 3 monster armors to hunt lvl3 monsters? Because I've noticed there's a bit gap of most weapons topping out at 7-11 or sharp with str 4-6, while level 3s are T14-17, which results in a frustrating amount of weapons that are wounding on a hitting and wounding on a 6 or 7+ if not just straight relying on crits, which in turn drags out fights when they're most dangerous. It's most obvious because I'm trying out CE in an otherwise mostly vanilla campaign (+DBK) and it feels like I'm really missing that +7 STR bonus
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I've yet to face a lvl 3 monster. I started playing the game on TTS by myself a couple of years ago but since I have a few gaming groups up, I've decided to forego my single player games so that I can face the new stuff with my friends.
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>>97538673
the majority of the stuff is plastic, only the orange ones are resin.
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Best monster nodes and innovation path to make a solid team in core + non GCE expansions? I usually like playing tank but never feel like I get to get a decent set together. Just beacon shield and extra sense? I have almost everything monster wise except gorm, manhunter, and slenderman.
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>>97546169
None, Rawhide and leather are the best armors in the game for how cheap they are, if you're building monster armor it's because it supports some gimmick or weapon type you want to play with not because it's efficient, the most efficient play is just 1x raw hide 2x leather 1x lantern, 3 Beacon shields for the latter.
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>>97546665
Fair enough. I wish they would have a different style of campaign that allowed for the time to get decent sets and weapons. I feel like 80% of the stuff requiers a campaign built around getting it, which seems kind of unfair to the other players. Maybe give an innovation or somthing that allows a second set of survivors to hunt as well with their own gear. That way im not wasting my best equipment, timeline and survivor life usage on level 1 lions .
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>>97547264
Tell me about it, I'm planning a green knight campaign and even with skipping on spidicules and replacing the choreia requirement with petal spiral so I can include Dragon King instead it's a hassle, and I can't include black knight like I planned over the hand because trying to craft his patterns is just too much of a distraction
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>>97547264
>>97547361
I feel there is a happy medium between a 30 year slogan and a vignette. Please design it for me. CoD and First Hero(prioritize this Poots you dipshit) are supposed to help with this issue with shorter campaigns and the "act one skip".

Gear is often shit though and its very hard to strike that balance between what looks cool and what is optimal, particularly when literal PCs are a resource. It only becomes harder as you play more and know what is worth crafting. Ultimately I really want either a more streamlined 'roguelite' experience or less punishing sandbox.
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>>97547661
>First Hero(prioritize this Poots you dipshit)
Why would he prioritise it when there's still so many expansions to come out? It's kind of a crazy ask too, since it needs to work with every node somehow, and future nodes going forward.
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>>97547794
Because I saw them running it at gencon 3 fucking years ago.
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>>97549035
You mean the fight? The issue is not the fight.
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>>97547661
I feel like there can be a decent game to be had if there was some sort of exploration or somthing that let's you fight any node 1's until your ready to fight an upgraded nemesis at that node to unlock the next set. Honestly as I type this it feels like it sucks thw soul from the game but greater minds then me can balance that out. Im guessing I should just finally pull out and play gamblers chest and see what these arc survivors are all about.
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I want to start playing, is there any way to get into the game in the UK without spending nearly £400 on the KDM bixset? I don't want to play on VT, I like minis.
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>>97551690
I got mine pretty cheap on ebay. The unofficial discord has a decent trading channel too but its still a discord server, with all troon-isms that entails. Finding someone selling game content (because they wanted just thw minis) and someone with just selling the minis (they just want the game content) is pretty common.
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>>97551602
>>97551602
>there was some sort of exploration or somthing that let's you fight any node 1's
This is what I'm doing in my own game desu. Instead of each monster having a bespoke hunt deck or departing to hunt a specific monster, each biome has a map with its own event deck, which includes generic events, biome specific events, and each therion's (monsters) event decks. As the team of hunters explores the map, they draw from the event deck and look for monster traces, with events giving either a specific one (from monster or biome events) or one of a player's choice (some generic events). The player can keep hunting until they get 3 of a monster's traces that they want, but there are specific cards in the deck that will trigger an ambush from the monster whose traces they have the most of, forcing them into fighting them with a disadvantage.
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Had friends over to play the Gigalion vignette. Got gigaraped because we forgot to remove the extra damage mood after he killed a survivor.
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>>97553382
Cool face terrain. Do survivors stand on it ok, and what do you do when monster is partially on it? Just remove it and put the cardboard underneath?
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>>97553382
This nigga doesn't have grass
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>>97553730
All the 1x1 and 2x2 bases can be placed on it ok (not great). Larger monsters we swap it out for the cardboard when he's on it.

>>97553734
I actually do but it sucks, because survivors love to stand in it and there isn't room for them in it.
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>>97553734
grass looks like shit on the board IMO, I never use it.
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>>97553382
>Got gigaraped because we forgot to remove the extra damage mood after he killed a survivor.
kek that happen to me too the first time I fought him.
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Honestly butcher level 3 was surprisingly easy even with me frenzying on turn 2
, he really got fucked over with me drawing tall grass to counter his +2 accuracy tokens and thus still getting my +4 evasion with Phoenix plackart, helm, and rolling armor
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>>97538679
There's Apotheosis but I don't think he had a plastic release yet. He also had seasonal variants in 2024 but they never did a reprint since. So keep an eye out.
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So is there any kind of expected timeline for plastic whiteboxes to restock, or is it literally just whim of poots. I want sunlion armor, Lantern aya, and tachyon nodachi rubi but the ebay prices are heinous if they're available at all
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>>97572181
>or is it literally just whim of poots
this one (apparently)
I had usps lose my black friday order with sunlion armor erza and even though the box isn't available in the store anymore, KD's support were still apparently able to send me a replacement
but maybe they intentionally keep a small stock of extra boxes that don't go on sale for similar cases, so I'm not completely sure
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>>97572181
Restock is most likely to appear during big sales, so Black friday and sometime holidays.
If you only want the minis then aliexpress got some of them, and I'm sure you could find some other chink recast.
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>>97572181
i have an extra beta sunlion armor if you want to buy that. iam eu though

playing people of the sun with all the sun stuff. i must say i like using the beta and the finished stuff.
for instance we just made the sunlion armor with the old recipe. the armor set gives no extra armor so it seem fair.
then if we finally find the flower we can upgrade it and get that extra 2 armor from the new set. (we are in year 14 and still have not found that fucking flower so i really think its a good way to do it
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>>97573543
It just gave me a good chuckle and that has been a while
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>>97573569
dear god
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>>97538663
She's a whore! A hypocritical whore! I'd love for an understanding 3+ male to abduct her at right before she maxes out and uses her as a breeding device. Spit out a child or two per year. Could make it past "Deadend" levels of disturbing content.....
She's a whore
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>>97573569
This is why I black out the eyes on my minis and say it's dried ink
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Huh, wasn't what i was expecting but I did kind of want doll, nice that that's bsck in stock.
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>>97585461
We need more post-early iron campaigns for me to consider getting alot of the standard alone models. They look great but seeing it along side monkey brain, just-invented-the-wheel, loin cloth survivors who barely get a chance to make metal armor before goldsmoke eviction just dosnt look right sometimes. I haven't done the BK 5 year campaign yet but just some of those would be great along the way. Considering they are pre-ordering shit into 2030+, im hopeful.
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>>97575141
I want to FUCK this whore and make babies
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>>97558153
>These niggas don't have grass

https://ko-fi.com/s/9b187aaac5
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Is it possible to play Kingdom Death? I remember really getting into the lore, and finding some rules online, but they were just reminders, not how to play. And the minis I found were bloody expensive.
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>>97587975
>Is it possible to play Kingdom Death?
of course not, what a silly question, the game doesnt exist - we are just posting imaginary scenarios of what we think the game could be like
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>>97587975
?????
the games been out for almost 15 years now.
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>>97587987
Read the rest of my post, I explain what I mean.
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>>97587975
>>97587992
what
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>>97587975
>>97587992
Anon, are you ok? Are you asking for a scan of the rulebook? The game has been fully playable for a while.
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>>97588010
I'd like that, but I'm more asking if it's actually playable. As per my first post, all the minis I could find were insanely expensive.
Too bad people here are too retarded to read.
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game?
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>>97587992
I read it like 5 times now.
>Is it possible to play Kingdom Death?
yes????
>but they were just reminders, not how to play.
you have to buy the game????
>And the minis I found were bloody expensive.
yes the game is expensive, is not a TTRPG like dnd its a board game, you need to buy it, it has cards and boards and minis, you can't just get the rules and play, there are scans of the rulebook online but unless you make your own board and cards and minis it will be impossible to play.
I guess you can also play it on TTS but its incomplete so its more of a demo than anything.
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>>97588026
>is not a TTRPG like dnd its a board game, you need to buy it, it has cards and boards and minis, you can't just get the rules and play
Ha, I see. Thank you for explaining.
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>>97588016
its just a baffling question, imaging going to /40kg/ and asking "its this game playable?" like what the fuck.
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>>97588016
Oh, you mean
>is it playable for a regular person with a regular salary?
As it stands, its extremely expensive as JUST a game. Most people buy it for the perfect mix of hobby and game. You can find alot of it pretty cheap second hand, some people just want the models. I suggest trying out the table top sim one for free.
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>>97588033
YES! Sorry if I wasn't clear, I just was so surprised by the prices of the minis that I started wondering if it was really a game or some kind of weird exhibition art.

>I suggest trying out the table top sim one for free.
If I can motivate my friends, I definitely will. They love Berzerk, they should love a horrible game that takes place in a dark world whose ground is made out of stone faces.
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>>97588028
in the OP you can find the official site where you can buy it (if its in stock), the main board game its like 400 bucks, so its a commitment but it comes with a shit load of stuff.
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>>97588044
Well, I just lost my job, so... that'll have to wait. But thanks anyway.
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>>97588046
yeah its not just a game, its a hobby in itself.
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>>97588055
Shame, the monsters look very inspired, but already getting Warhammer books is a big spend.
Since I'm not even sure if people will accept to play...
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>>97588046
Get back on your feet before black friday and join us.
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This game would be great if it wasn't goonerbait.
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>>97596708
I dont mind so much the horny sculpts as long as its balanced out by an equally debased body horror output. Luckily the rules dont give a fuck about goonerbait or not.
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>>97596708
So don't get the goonerbait models.
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>>97538663
Why are girls cuter when they're ballin'?
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>>97596708
i want more female goonerbait
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Is screaming god size3 or size4, do we know?
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>>97600261
It looks like a 3x3.
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>>97600400
Nice, I should be able to fit him and parasite queen in the case then, even easier if parasite queen is also 3x3
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Got my hands on a plastic game board

Time to never paint it
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And finally our long campaign ends with a settlement wipe. Unfortunately had to sacrifice my best survivor AND my Phoenix armor to level 3 butcher once I realized that I was not strong enough to beat him normally and was having dogshit luck with invincible and trap shuffling so I took the Lantern frenzy copout, tried farming up to Lantern armor by spamming screaming antelope but I was down to 7 survivors, wiped on king man's level 3, and I just called it there. Lessons taken: even with CE the phoenix is just a waste of time and I'm swapping him out for dragon king next campaign, there's no reason to hunt DBK level 3, and just because I can fight watcher LY20 doesn't mean I should.
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>>97602738
Butcher is absolutely something I'd be bringing mood removers for.
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>>97596708
There's already Infinity if you want the
>lured people in with attractive minis and then pulled up the ladder
experience.
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Putting together the green knight set has further convinced me that a kit should not get a mold until the designer can assemble 10 of it in a row without making mistakes, because dear God why with that female knight skirt
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>>97603971
The newer stuff is crazy good to put together though. So sounds like it's a case of whoever designed the things got way better at their job or they hired somebody more competent.
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>>97602738
>the phoenix is just a waste of time and I'm swapping him out for dragon king next campaign,
nobody tell him
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>>97605386
Dragon King is a very fun fight. It's not as crazy as my Phoenix fights have been, but the terrain/meltdown stuff is really fun to play with.
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>>97605401
dobbel den
you kinda need phoenix to prepare for dragon king.
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>>97605131
>The newer stuff is crazy good to put together though
except black knight
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>>97605522
I need to put him together soon, what's wrong with his build? Is it an instructional issue like The Gambler?
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>>97605874
No, despite being a recent expansion, the sculpt is actually old and very questionable - expect gaps outta the fucking ass, I think even core game sculpts werent as bad
The squires and armor kits also had one of the worst cases of mold lines I’ve ever encountered in kdm so far
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>>97605454
Protect the Young gearpilled Chads win again, sissies that depend on lucky super survivors to beat the game BTFO.
Just wait til you have accept darkness and hunt him with your oldest survivors, you need a sacrifice for level 2+ anyway to get the radiant heart
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>>97605874
Tons of gaps. I will say some models really suprise me with how well they can hide some of the gaps behind gear and good angles. Black knight is not one of them, gaps are pretty wide most of the time i see them.
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Given that the vignettes thus far have been white lion, butcher, and screaming antelope, do you think this year we'll see a king's man vignette? The hand also kind of got a pass with the godhand
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>>97588030
Everyone will tell you it's not.
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>>97607266
It could just be my tired brain inventing things but I'm pretty sure the kingsman has been hinted at strongly as one they're looking at for a vignette revamp or similar, given that he's extremely frequently complained about.
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>>97606105
i dont think lvl 3 needs a sacrifice right ?
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>>97606028
>>97607266
mine only has 3 really
>hair on back of cloak
>left gauntlet
>right front torso
the torso one is the only one that I think is bad, gauntlet one and cloak are easy to fill
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Does anyone know how to rip the 3d models from the kingdom death simulator? I kinda wanna 3d print some if possible.
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Well, finally got my slenderman, even if I overpaid by 50%...also got echoes of death 2, so that's nice at least. Won't go into my current campaign though, this is a green knight run, but it'll be good to never have to fight king's man again
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Do they reprint all the expansions for Black Friday? Do they sell them individually?
I'd rather slowly build my collection than browse ebay resellers or buy the 12 boxes bundle, since I already have some of them.
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>>97607331
Poots said on the (may Allah forgive me) Discord that Woe Phoenix is the next vignette.
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>>97611964
Not all of them I believe. Im still looking for manhunter and slenderman. Others are usually up.
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>>97613396
Those ones had been restocked a month before during the Halloween sale
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>>97611964
People expect an expansion reprint/update with the release of CoD (slated for this year).
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>>97614279
Wait, so now I have to periodically check the store if I want to snag specific expansions?
Godfuckingdammit.
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>>97614815
One of the (very) few reasons I follow the update channel in the shitty discord.
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>>97614344
>slated for this year
But come on anon... We know it's not coming until the next.
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>>97615233
The unbelievers will be shunned and mocked when the promised day comes. Screaming God is looking to be dropping in Spring, and COD by black friday. Given that we haven't seen anything about titan bee, that's the one I'm more likely to believe will be pushed to 2027. Death armor is not very hard to develop especially if it's expansion agnostic using patterns with eras unlike green armor.
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Yeah that Black Knight was a fucking nightmare to put together jesus christ.

Also lol at the fact that you have a massive slot and tag for the hand to go into to the point where it doesn't even connect to the base of the arm, but the forward positioned foot which needs to connect to a base to stand properly is just vibing in whatever the fuck position.

This is legitimately worse than the Phoenix to put together. I would rather put together the Lonely Tree again than do that, goddamn.
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>>97615031
you dont use the rule channel ?
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>>97617127
I'm in awe as to how they have never gotten better in designing better fitting minins since release.
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>>97615233
I dunno bro, this time Anna was more conservative with the estimates than Adam wanted to be.

It's a high likelihood we'll actually get it late this year, if not then Q1 next year.
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>>97620346
Turns out poots isnt actually good, he just capitalized on a unique concept. The years have shown where he lacks.
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>>97620346
They have though, Core has been a nightmare to put together compared to the newer models.
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>fight the butcher
>pull dead monster
>beat him up turn 1 and take his lunch money
>get clinging mist settlement
>go hunt gorm
>pull dead monster
>beat it up turn 1 and take its lunch money
>come back to fight manhunter
>pull dead monster
>beat him up turn 1 and take his lunch money
I know this is probably at least in part due to bad shuffling even after a cut but I find the idea that these survivors keep dragging this one corpse around amd they just keep falling for it incredibly funny so I rolled with it
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>>97620900
only marginable; the red witches, the gambler and the black knight were horrendous.
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>>97621601
I didn't really have much problems with red witches tbqh, at least compared to gambler and black knight
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>>97621681
one of them had a gap because the cape was on the way and the leg connection looks like ass.
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>>97617127
>>97620346
>>97621601
you whiny fags are insufferable, just get good for fuck sakes Minis are a hobby, KDMs are harder to assemble, maybe because they aren't "turn worm sitting on a column" and "standing elf #2032939 now with a bow that instantly break".
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I hope the next indomitable is for dung beetle knight honestly, currently there's just no good incentive for going for a SBK level 3, it's way easier to get a calcified juggernaut blade from the crit and burrow is a massive difficulty spike.
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>>97623801
No chance until CoD. I hear they fucked the difficulty level for DBK since the tester just automatically assumed everybody playing it would cheat. Nobody is going to want to buy a thing for something that overtuned.
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>>97623858
On the contrary I feel, as far as indomitables for expansions go, one for the DBK would easily pick up a bunch of sales based simply on how highly rated and popular the expansion is.
I think the only *original expansions* that would have him beat are Sunstalker and Dragon King. I'd say Gorm also but he already has a couple of indomitables so theres less of a gap to fill.
I guess they are somewhat cryptic in their descision making though because we have two spidicules indoms, and she is probably one of the more unpopular monsters (though that's in part because of poor gear; maybe you could make the argument indoms counter that a little and so are a good choice for spidicules, but by the level 3 point that seems like too little too late to make sense.)
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>>97623858
Honestly DBK is really fun to fight, I'd rate it number 2 of the quarries after dragon king but before spidicules, it's just specifically the level 3 version is a bitch and a half with lol random 20% instakill chance if your survival limit isn't high enough when you hit a carapace.
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>>97611996
Neat.
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>>97623801
>new indomitable a day later
>a third one for the king
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>update is literally nothing
cool

don't like the boiling water bugs at all, they look stupid
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Oh, nice, Til Death Do Us Part remaster. That was one of the few gameplay figures I was missing.
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>>97630452
New bee lore is not “nothing,” okay???
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>>97630717
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Does any of this new store update have game content? I keep hearing iron succubus is supposed to be a node monster but the box has nothing in it. Do they really release thw monster only, then the only way to get to content is buying it again later?
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>>97631321
There's the new indomitable survivor for the king, and til death for us part has some game content but other than that nothing major no, just the usual random beta gear
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Am I missing something or can you just get a fuck ton of permanent evasion from flower knight if you have fencing and ghostly beauty?
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>>97631321
No, presumably it will be a monster with rules at some point but there's going to be nothing until kickstarter fulfillment. They release the monster sculpts early. The white lion came out as a resin piece before the game came out too.
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I dont get why Poots keeps churning out indomitables for king
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>>97632961
I don't own gamblers chest and have never seen it played but I assuming king has a similar issue to lion god and DBK where they're so difficult baseline that the level 3s are dickwafflers and not worth the risk to fight unless you're at the end of a campaign snd want to throw your op survivors at it for shits and giggles
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>>97633162
Nah, I haven't gotten up to doing a Dream Keeper campaign myself, but from what I heard, the King gear is so absurdly powerful that fighting him at level 3 once you've fought his previous power is easy enough with the gear you'd get.
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>>97632669
>being difficult

you can get 20 str 10 ev 10 acc and depending on your rolls a decent amount of luck and speed.

just kill the flower person every year and have sotf. or no sotf but wont go as fast.
flower knight is baby mode
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>>97633634
>flower knight is baby mode
Are you playing with the new GCE FK cards?
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>>97633704
does it matter? probably.
virus flower was not changed right so if you have protect the young you can leave with 20 str+ 10acc+ 5+ev guy every year and kill him.
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>>97633704
>>97633929
what i mean is you can just kill a level 1 for virus flower and you win the campaign even if you never touch flower knight again afterwards.
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>>97633938
You need to kill a level 3 for virus flower anon... And you don't get to keep it when the survivor with it dies.
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>>97633988
anon......
you get it from crones tale story event. YEAR 5 for free. then you get warm virus story event every time the virus flower carrier dies,

you start compounding so fast from year 5 onwards
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>>97634109
Yes you get ONE for free. You don't keep it when the virus carrier dies.
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>>97634109
Anon the item is cursed you archive it when the user dies, you don't get it or any other cursed gear on the guest back.
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>>97634499
Not that guy, but you COULD use it in conjunction with survivors that have crystal skin. Crystal skin lets you ignore cursed, and the cursed tag is what makes the item get archived when the user dies.

Technically RAW it works but I would never allow that in my game.
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>>97634203
>>97634499
k so we where both wrong. you get it way earlier then a lvl 3 and you dont compound.
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>>97634537
I run with the mindset "your ability doesn't mean shit when you're dead" and archive cursed gear if the crystal skin user dies.

>>97633634
>>97633938
>>97634109
>>97636476
>goes "wow this is broken" because they're too stupid to read rules and goes "I'm gonna abuse this and say this boss is too easy"
You cheated not only the game, but yourself. You didn't grow. You didn't improve. You took a shortcut and gained nothing. You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained. It's sad that you don't know the difference.
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>>97636927
For anyone who whines that this defeats the purpose of crystal skin, crystal skin lets you remove cursed gear to give to someone else of your choice instead.
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>>97606028
good to know I'm not the only one
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The nice/poor thing about lion knight is how it's very easy to get off with just swapping around the villain to a expendable and killing him off early so I can move on with my life, since the lion knight badge isn't very good anyway and I can just wait for level 2 to get my hideous disguise for ageless apprentice
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>gamez ez. I have 12 survivors with 40 str and 11 eva with 25 luck

I am convinced that anyone who says shit like this is wildly misinterpreting some rule or outright cheating. When almost everysingle opportunity to gain a single point in something is accompanied by a chance of negative or outright death, its statistically improbable.
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>>97636927
original was about farming evasion

>HES SUPER HARD GUYS
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>>97638921
Nobody was talking about the original post there. It got completely derailed by a wild take
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>>97639280
I'm still wondering if I'm misreading something, because it just seems silly that any survivor that gets ghostly beauty can just farm up like +10 evasion by spam hunting the flower knight with no real risks. I think that unironically I'm just going to ignore him for the rest of the campaign until I need to go hunt a level 3 for second sleeping flower + true blade for green knight and focus on DBK and Phoenix instead because this shit is even easier to break than everyone said it was.
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>>97639605
You'd need to hunt it like 10 times, which seems like a significant investment. Opportunity cost and all that.
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>>97639650
No much opportunity cost honestly: I need to get a bunch of hide and bones to get up sets of Leather armor and scrap smelting and blacksmith, but I've got no more need to hunt the gorm until again level 3 for gormite and stomach lining, and both DBK and Phoenix are too dangerous to hunt with my current gear, so I'm not losing anything until I've finished crafting 2 sets of leather armor. The consequences of having a quarry without an armor set I guess.
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>>97638677
at least high evasion is easy with manhunter tool belt, flower knight badge, monster grease, and sotf, which totals to 7 eva
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>>97639605
see >>97641015

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