Compendium/companion anon here. Updated to 1.02 as well as adding some UI improvements and more complex bugfixes

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>>97597798
Good stuff as always Anon.

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Talk is cheap, post warbands

>>97598563
What's that Arty Witch mini there?

Dead

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>>97596349
>TQ
It is quite nice, we play TC every month among other things and we have an organized campaign with about 8 players. We are currently waiting for Carcass Front to release so we can start a new campaign around that.

Missed this, but there's some lore about the Prussian Combat Medic
https://www.trenchcrusade.com/lore/prussian-combat-medics/

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>>97598621
its the heresiarch miniatures one off cults. think he's pulled it down temporarily because of the license stuff.
sounds like its gonna be back up eventually tho

>>97604195
>temporarily

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>>97604195
I like her little hell titties and pepperoni hell nipples

>>97596349
I heard it was woke and I lost interest

>>97604267
Don't let youtube tertiaries scare you away from a good game.

>>97604341
It's a mid game at best, it could use a rewrite or two.

>demons and hell are suddenly proven to be real
>instead of immediately repenting and worshipping God to gain access to heaven, millions decide to serve hell, a place where sinners are tortured forever

Why tho?
The only reason people sin, is believing that they wont be punished for it.

At least in Warhammer, be it fantasy or 40k, there's no such thing as "heaven" so you don't get any type of reward for fighting for the good guys, and the bad guys offer power and pleasure, so it makes sense that people would try to join them.

>>97605121
>Why tho?
The vast, vast majority of them are born into it and raised to have a very different view of God. It's really not that complicated.

>>97605121
Some people really think Lucifer's rebellion was justified

>>97605121
It's the age-old "free will vs divine will" debate, mixed with the church being seen by some as so overbearing and corrupt that hell seems like the better option.

>>97605656
To add on to that, you have to remember that the church in TCV is the catholic church, with the protestant split never happening due to demon invasion, so no lutherian offshoots, no protestantism and the church still keeping up the tradition of Indulgences, essentially letting rich land owners and higher classes pay-to-win when it comes to getting into heaven sin-free
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence

>>97596349
SELLOUTS!!!

>>97605121
Some people would just lose hope, they think god has abandoned them, and join the forces of hell

>>97605121
The demons are very very experienced and have divine knowledge - they're probably able to convince just about anyone of just about anything.

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>>97605121
It's more complex and interesting than just that.

TL:DR "Is God actually a good guy? These war vets don't think so."

Basically the Templars who open the gate, plus some people in the Levant, don't actually get fucked over immediately. They get empowered.
They get superhuman abilities, forms, capacities. But most importantly, secret and forbidden knowledge.
Religious texts that are considered heretical (the proper use, not the 40k use), deep secrets about the world, magic, and god.
Why is it forbidden?
For 'corrupting your soul if you even read it'?
Or because it contains a problematic perspective with evidence and proof that the orthodox church doesn't want people to see?
Which is more realistic?

The Templars come back from their study session, immensely empowered, and say "God actually isn't all loving. We're made in his image, to his likeness, but he treats us like vermin next to him, and heaps demands and expectations of obedience and wholesomeness and mercy upon us that he frequently flaunts.
Our very perception of goodness was designed by him to suit his whims, and when his actions are judged by that perception as you would a man, God is not so good.
We demand equality with God." No joke, this is actually the 'first heresy' in the setting


The whole theological uncertainty, and perfectly functional but entirely antithetical perspectives are actually one of this anon's favourite things about the setting. Both sides can be argued as morally good or bad with some flexible philosophy (looking monstrous is not a proof of moral failing after all). But they're fundamentally anathema to each other, and cannot bear the other to exist.
So, they HAVE to fight.

Unfortunately, it's one of the most heavily meme'd things because people either go "It's good human guys vs evil hell guys" or are religious themselves and go "But how can god be evillllllll!? He can't be, he's Godddd."

>>97609426
I was just thinking. In hell occupied areas people here choristers all the time, possibly every day. If heretics have a radio station, it will be full of chorister songs. These people are bombarded with visions of hell's victory, possibly from their very youth. Its actually superb propaganda, and ensures people flock in to join the fight, so they can have better place in world to come.

>>97609426
>Unfortunately, it's one of the most heavily meme'd things because people either go "It's good human guys vs evil hell guys"

The introductory lore makes it clear that Hell’s regime is built on large‑scale child sacrifice and the exploitation of ordinary humans as slaves or even food. Joining the Legion is portrayed as a grim privilege: recruits must undertake a pilgrimage into Hell itself, and only those with a black soul can survive the journey. Even after joining, Legion members are encouraged to kill themselves as a way of mocking the gift of life with only a small chance of being resurrected.

When the story establishes this upfront, it becomes difficult to later present this faction as morally ambiguous or misunderstood because God didn’t love them enough. It is like a serial killer stating he only killed those women because 'God is cruel' therefore he cannot be judged.

>>97604195
According to his IG account he's working on adapting his things to the community legal framework and will reupload his things after revision, hopefully he does his annointed are top notch

>>97609426
>Both sides can be argued as morally good or bad with some flexible philosophy
He really fell for the meme...

>>97604267
And yet you’re interested enough to pop in and let us know your position. Are you retarded, or just a troll?

>>97605121
>we have this stupid fucking debate every single thread
>and TC players take the bait every single time
Can we just have one thread without TC haters shitting everything up and TC supporters learning to see the hook in the worm dangling before them?

>>97609923
>Hell’s regime is built on large‑scale child sacrifice and the exploitation of ordinary humans as slaves or even food
But enough about the Epstein-Clinton-Hollywood-Democrat cabal, we’re here to talk about Trench Crusade.

>>97610596
Both
>>97610620
kek

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Is Red Brigade is the only set of official STLs for a variant faction made outside of Factory Fortress?

I know Factory Fortress got Archon Studios to make plastic kits for the Prussian variant.

>>97611119
The Great Hunger for BL

>>97609426
>>97609923
sounds like it was first written to be silly and over the top but now people are going back and trying to rationalize it

>>97611217
>BL
Boys Love??

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>>97598563
Repostin

>>97611355
Black Love

>>97611408
The Great Hunger got solved by somethin' Zesty.

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>>97609426
Christcucks BTFO

>>97604267
>I let a youtuber form my opinions and do my thinking for me
Literal NPC behavior, you could kill yourself and the world would not change

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>>97604434
Sure, it's also only just recently in 1.0. It has the bones to be a great skirmish wargame not infested with ridiculous bloat and rolling 30 dice over and over just to resolve one attack. No game is perfect right away, and letting perfect be the enemy of good is just a retarded way to live your life

>>97611395
Sick. Give us a shot of just the Artillery Witch and War Wolf, I want to see them more directly

>>97611317
pretty much what happened to 40k innit

>>97609426
The problem is they make it explicit that you have to be evil to join the heretics and never once are regular people shown to be elevated up in the world of hell. If you thought God treated you like shit, wait till you see what the "fight for equality side" does to it's pawns

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>>97598563
>post warbands
still waiting on Iron Sultanate to get good minis. Both the official sculpts (except the Sapper, who I really like) and the 3rd party stuff fall short of the other factions
Really like the rules though, even if they aren't particularly good

I have my first campaign game against NA this Sunday, on a scale of 1-10, how goofed is this list? I'm running flamethrower on alchemist because my autism forces me to run a flavorful option, I don't actually know if it's good or not.

Iron Sultanate - Iron Wall - [700 Ducats]
# ++ Warband ++ [700 Ducats]
## Elite [395 Ducats]
Jabirean Alchemist [101 Ducats]: Flamethrower [30 Ducats], Trench Knife [1 Ducats], Standard Armour [15 Ducats]
Silahdar [116 Ducats]: Siege Jezzail [30 Ducats], Trench Knife [1 Ducats], Standard Armour [15 Ducats]
Officier Janissary [89 Ducats]: Siege Jezzail [30 Ducats], Trench Knife [1 Ducats], Alchemical Ammunition [3 Ducats]
Officier Janissary [89 Ducats]: Siege Jezzail [30 Ducats], Trench Knife [1 Ducats], Alchemical Ammunition [3 Ducats]
## Troop [305 Ducats]
Azeb [47 Ducats]: Musical Instrument [15 Ducats], Grenades [7 Ducats]
Azeb [35 Ducats]: Jezzail [7 Ducats], Alchemical Ammunition [3 Ducats]
Azeb [35 Ducats]: Jezzail [7 Ducats], Alchemical Ammunition [3 Ducats]
Brazen Bull [188 Ducats]: Sultanate Grand Cannon [60 Ducats], Great Hammer/Maul [10 Ducats], Standard Armour [15 Ducats], Mountaineer Kit [3 Ducats]

>>97611217
That sounds like some kind of Tumblr name.

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what can I kitbash these into. They are quite big, and go on 32mm bases I think.

>>97610483
>Both sides can be argued as morally good or bad with some flexible philosophy
This is what Arch accuses TC of being.

The “shades of gray” thing doesn’t really work for TC. However oppressive the faithful may be Hell does it worse. In 40k I still wouldn’t say chaos is better than the imperium, but it does genuinely offer opportunity while the imperium only offers stagnation. Hell in TC is just being stepped on even harder by demons.

>>97614251
>flamethrower alchemist
waste of the alchemist's +2 ranged dice since it auto-hits. grenade (optionally with pistols for charging) might be a flavorful alternative
>grand cannon bull
opposite problem, waste of the cannon on a model with +0 ranged dice. Either give him the flame cannon (which auto-hits) or go all in on melee
Rest of the list looks fine, cheap jezzail 'zebs and naked SJ jannies are your strengths

>>97609923
>morally ambiguous or misunderstood
I think theres a difference between "complex" and "ambiguous".

A heretic soldier living their whole life in a horrible place where might-makes-right and the only way to survive is to become evil and sacrifice babies can be considered complex (is it possible for them to be forgiven, did they really have a choice in being evil, etc) but not morally ambiguous (he eats babies, thats bad).

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>>97609534
This.
They, like the faithful, don't get the full spread of perspectives, philosophies and ideas around the topic.
They JUST get the ones that support Hell's narrative, and not anything that might weaken it.

But that kinda proves there must be a logic, a perspective, to their philosophy that makes them 'good'. Which everyone seems to insist doesn't exist because 'hurr durr baby burning'.

>>97609923
Well, to answer in triplicate.
>Life is also grim and demanding and full of large scale sacrifice for the faithful.
Communicants and Synod members are almost always children when they're taken and altered, at the least. And similarly, joining the army has been the way many people got out of a more miserable lot, risking death for a better life. That happens all the time IRL, much less in TC.
>only those with a black soul can survive the journey
See above. Hell weeds out any potential for conflicting perspective, as well as enemy dogma. Given that what we recognize as moral decency and goodness is in their world, dogma of the Tyrant, that makes sense.
>Legion members are encouraged to kill themselves as a way of mocking the gift of life with only a small chance of being resurrected.
What we see as horrific is something they see as good. Particularly because it is horrific.
To us, it's a disturbing self-mutilation to death. To them, it's an advanced form of protest march against tyranny. And how is protesting a tyrant in the most powerful way you can, anything but good?

Again, it's perspective.

>>97611317
It's written to be horror. The concept of this perspective on what's right and wrong is meant to be disturbing and confrontational.
>But it's so OTT
It's fiction, no wonder.

>>97612559
Again anon, perspective.
Those entries are more than likely written from the perspective of the church, and at the least may feature writers bias.
>wait till you see what the "fight for equality side" does to it's pawns
The weak die, the strong don't remain pawns.

>>97596349
As a nogames lurker reading through the compendium, I think there's too many keywords and effects in the wrong places. There's too much criticals and +1 Injury dice.

>>97614661
>>97609426
>>97605121
>>97596349
as a no games pacing by that lurks /x/ a lot.

this satanists don't really seem that moraly better , they just seem to serve a worse demigurge.

and I do think that astetics kind of do matter in this magical context , why isn't thier any interesting lucifer as a bringer of light symbolism , anything exoteric that doesn't just look like a ton of red flags.

I could see honest to god real people trying to become caos cultists , but even in such a satanic (not necesarely bad) place in current society , people are just arguing hells forces are just , "morally grey". I think that if you can't argue its moraly light , I am unsure how it could actually be moraly grey at least with normal metaphisics.

a lot of the arguments for satanists being good guys , seem more like arguments as to they should be more so colonised by like left hand or whatever the fuck wizards , that are actually cool , but most importanly. have an actual metaphysical future and maybe even actual metaphysical values.

this witch desing is based though >>97598451

>>97614661
>Communicants and Synod members are almost always children when they're taken and altered
You cannot justify murdering babies because 'life is cruel'. We are talking about industrial scale child sacrifice so elites can have gold and automatic rifles. To quote the game creator, Trench Crusade is a game about "How soon will you start resembling those that you fight against". It is clear that the forces of Hell are meant to be evil but years of fighting them has caused the moral decline of the Christian factions to being similar.
>Hell weeds out any potential for conflicting perspective, as well as enemy dogma.
The forces of Hell are in a constant state of civil war due to legions being pledged to different lords.Similar to how the christian factions fight each other
>And how is protesting a tyrant in the most powerful way you can, anything but good?
There is nothing profound or meaningful by saying life is cruel so everyone is better of dead. Particularly when this is used so the elites can have slaves, technology and gold.

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>>97614661
>But that kinda proves there must be a logic, a perspective
I would say something like satanism. Which doesn't always mean satan worship, while not being against it either. Its the philosophy that christian virtues are weakness. Its atheistic philosophy of self worship. Like Anton LaVey, the creator of the Church of Satan said "There is a beast in man that should be exercised, not exorcised."
Possibly also luciferianism, in which Lucifer's rebellion and goals are aspirational. To pursue your freedom and power, despite what the god wants. Want to eat the fruit? Do it, be like a god. Its another philosophy of self worship, but less atheistic.
Both of those of course would be much more hardcore than in our real world.

>>97614263
They don't look very scrappy/trench-y and you are lacking ranged options.
Maybe some african or zulu-like group (heretics or not).
Or an assassin list with an asian monk theme? Kenku ninjas or something?

scammy overpriced woke slop garbage

>>97596349
A single space marine can solo your entire setting

>>97605121
Demons are powerful supernatural beings with a level of divine knowledge compared to mortals. They know how to manipulate mortals. Convince them they will be stronk in hell.

And besides that you have people that will try to post rationalize anything. You have people trying to unironically argue there is moral amiguity between
>somewhat flawed christfags & mudslimes who do some henious shit, but are fighting for humanity's safety at large
>murderschizo mcbabyraper #masssacrificesforsatan canibal Drukhari(human)

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>>97615989
Shut up, powerscaler

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So is Christ king in Africa or what? whats the deal?

>>97616021
I don't really follow what you're asking, but Africa has longer history with Christianity than Europe, and TC universe reflects this. There are Christian block in Africa fighting heretics, mainly mammon's troops.

>>97616384
NTA
That was just North Africa, pretty sure he means the rest of the subsaharans who were mostly tribal

>>97616414
North Africa is contested territory. Egypt belonging to heretics, while Numidia and Marocco fight against hell. Sub-saharan regions I think are under empire of Abyssinia, and are faithful territory.

>>97614546
>opposite problem, waste of the cannon on a model with +0 ranged dice.
Hmm, I was hoping that the +2 elevation bonus would be able to offset this. The cannon seems too good to run as a stationary piece but I'll figure out how to man it using a sapper later. I'll go for a melee bull so that the warband can have a frontline/distraction unit to deal with units that can rush my gunline and such.

Iron Sultanate - Iron Wall - [700 Ducats]
# ++ Warband ++ [700 Ducats]
## Elite [413 Ducats]
Jabirean Alchemist [78 Ducats]: Trench Knife [1 Ducats], Grenades [7 Ducats], Standard Armour [15 Ducats]
Silahdar [153 Ducats]: Siege Jezzail [30 Ducats], Trench Club [3 Ducats], Standard Armour [15 Ducats], Explosive Charges [35 Ducats]
Officier Janissary [91 Ducats]: Siege Jezzail [30 Ducats], Trench Club [3 Ducats], Alchemical Ammunition [3 Ducats]
Officier Janissary [91 Ducats]: Siege Jezzail [30 Ducats], Trench Club [3 Ducats], Alchemical Ammunition [3 Ducats]
## Troop [287 Ducats]
Azeb [35 Ducats]: Jezzail [7 Ducats], Alchemical Ammunition [3 Ducats]
Azeb [35 Ducats]: Jezzail [7 Ducats], Alchemical Ammunition [3 Ducats]
Azeb [52 Ducats]: Musical Instrument [15 Ducats], Grenades [7 Ducats], Medi-Kit [5 Ducats]
Brazen Bull [165 Ducats]: Titan Zulfiqar [30 Ducats], Trench Shield [10 Ducats], Standard Armour [15 Ducats], Combat Helmet [5 Ducats], Gas Mask [5 Ducats]

>>97615989
You solo your entire sex life.

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little bit on the nose there guys, huehuehue

oh wow this book is lit 10/10

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holy lord does this setting ever cast islam in the most beautiful of lights

>>97618564
Islam for TC is china for Warhammer.

>>97618564
>beautiful
Eeh.. They're quite horrifying, with alchemy and assassins etc.

>>97618564
That was always a cheap shot, but even more so now that they've released a whole thing on how the 2nd-biggest muslim nation in the setting fell to devils because they were greedy.

>>97605676
>the church still keeping up the tradition of Indulgences, essentially letting rich land owners and higher classes pay-to-win when it comes to getting into heaven sin-free
Which obviously if God existed wouldn't work so...? Tard?

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>>97618564

Trench crusade enthusiasts have sucessfully convinved me to never play trench crusade. It's like all the neckbeards I used to know have been distilled down in to one setting.

>>97620773
Except it's not that at all, it's Ameritard leftist SJWs just making fun of Christianity, it's like the early Reddit bros.

>>97620588
Or it could be that some priests are corrupt assholes. Not all mind, but in any gran organization there is bound to be grift and powergrabbing, not to mention Frollo-esque men who use the church's power for their own gain. And that is not counting insider agents of hell within the church actively stirring up discourse and resentment in the masses or people who were not believers in the church from the start like the Asatrú religion up in scandinavia.
Freedom from the church, even one where god is proven by deed to exist, would seem to some of those people as the best option.

>>97621686
>>Or it could be that some priests are corrupt assholes.
The point is that if God exists and demons exist and all this has been revealed to the world, it's very obvious that this wouldn't work. As it is, you can't know.

>>97621828
>Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
>Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
>Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
>Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

The existence of other religions besides Christianity in TC is proof that the big-G in TC either is not able or not willing.

Has Tuomas learned any history yet or is he still spouting such highbrow takes as "ww1 is full of cavalry charging machineguns" "knights in full maille fought in the trenches" and regurgitating various long disproven memes?

>>97621911
Are you under the impression the game has knights in the trenches because they think its accurate? They specifically call out how the hell/heaven magic affected weapon and armour construction such that things are different.

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>>97620616
i think the plight of the homunculi is a little overblown tbhdesu in large part, if anything there might just be a deficit of simply sitting down and talking with the 'successful' examples about being alive and conscious and animate and such. they are allah's children the same as the rest, as evidenced by their being. notions of unnaturality fall flat against the fact of their existences. all is ordained. all is proper. all is good and all is right.

>>97619038
the assassins are just badasses and to create such a degree of badass such methods are warranted. what means go too far in the war against shaitan itself? all remains dignified in spite of anything. i doubt any are very displeased if at all about what they have become.

even the janissaries are laid out to have been saved from a categorically worse-off existence. azebs are limitlessly noble in what they amount to. those who believe have been dotingly well furnished by the creator on all fronts, and the awaiting of paradise remains a fact for all who've not marred themselves in dealings with hell in any facet.

>>97609923
>The introductory lore makes it clear that Hell’s regime is built on large‑scale child sacrifice
post-natal abortion is a human right

>>97621897
>>Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
God can stop demon invasions with ease in the TC universe.It is one of the lore reasons why demons haven't invaded all of earth. TC follows the 'devilman crybaby' rule where God can stop demons invading or destroying earth but cannot interfere with mans freewill,so if humans choose to summon demons or work with them then he cannot stop it.

There are other bullshit rules like death commandos having cloaking device which hides them from 'God' so he does not interfere but this highlight that God is protecting the faithful.

>>97615728
>overpriced
this hobby is not for poor white trash, get a job loser

>>97621897
Or maybe proof that the creators of this AI anti-Christian slop are retards?

>>97623518
But its for poor blacks and browns because they steal huh?

>>97623834
> hell is real
> christianity is the greatest force against it
> common christians can wield supernatural force because even they are chosen by god
> almost a 1000 years of war lead by devils isn't enough to defeat humanity with faith in jesus
> anti christian

okay

>>97624039
Next youll say its also pro Islam despite it being haram as fuck on top of being heretical.

>>97614661
>But that kinda proves there must be a logic, a perspective,
Anon, of the Hell-aligned factions we have:

>Black Grail
Explicitly created by Beelzebub to wage solo war against all Creation. Is as torturous and awful as possible because Beelzebub HATES us - it hates everything made by God and wishes to see it defiled and ruined till nothing remains. Beelzebub wants to render all Creation into a festering decaying shitpit bloated with maggots and corpse rot that will suffer and choke on its own pus as it dies, and when it does, Beelzebub will die with it. And he will rejoice in that death.

>The Beast
The anti-principle and philosophy of thought (or rather, the complete lack thereof) demanding that all existence retain to pure animal savagery, degenerating into rutting and killing and eating each other for all eternity. It considers sentience a disease to be extinguished.

>Church of Metamorphosis
Worshipers of an eldritch artifact who are not only all completely mad and completely inhuman, but intend to unlock the secrets of said artifact so that they can drown all Creatino beneath the eldritch truths that will come surging out of it in a bid to transcend to alien godhood at the expense of all reality.

And as the other anons said, the other heretic factions literally eat (and probably do worse things to) babies. No amount of philosophizing or 'perspective' will ever make them good.

>>97621911
Retard.

>>97611698
They're both morally dark grey vs. morally black, the difference is 40k cleaned up the gooder guys once it became herohammer capeshit, while TC is trying to nuance the bad guys because they're contrarians.
40k never said "maybe there were some positive aspects to the Daemonculaba".
>>97616384
>Africa has longer history with Christianity than Europe, and TC universe reflects this.
See, this is contrarianism. Alexandria is the only place in Africa that is even remotely possible to have been converted before Greece, and it was a Roman colony with a Greek population anyway.
The only reason you would be this pedantic about Africa being before Europe is because you think it owns the chuds.

>>97623849
The are not chuds

>>97624761
Look up Ethiopia.

>>97624899
They converted really early. Good for them, unironically. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/church-unearthed-ethiopia-rewrites-history-christianity-africa-180973740/
That's still in the 300s though. They weren't even on the list of the first places to convert, much less *before Greece*.

>>97624761
>while TC is trying to nuance the bad guys because they're contrarians.
It has not done this. Stop believing memes from retards online.

>>97624761
> while TC is trying to nuance the bad guys
for example?

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>>97624529
>>a logic, a perspective
>No amount of philosophizing or 'perspective' will ever make them good.
Shifting the goal posts there a bit, m8
Seeing a lot of that happening in these posts

>>97624965
They are second country after Armenia to adopt Christianity. Neither of those two are in Europe.

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Made a thing a while back for our campaign and decided to translate it to English yesterday.
It's a bunch of random tables for generating weather conditions for the scenario and their effects on the game. My group found it pretty fun to use, it adds plenty to the narrative side of things and shakes up the typical game balance and tactics sometimes, forcing the players to adapt.
Enjoy Anons!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wZUvJ9AWIjb_M_fFvVhBJDYTm-FkgYsh/view?usp=sharing

Also let me know if you spot any typos or wonky grammar, I think my English is pretty decent, but I almost certainly missed something

You want some better amalgam and thralls? Here ya go.
https://www.trenchcrusade.com/news/april-2026-rules-review-amalgam/

>>97627802
Oh! You're going by when it was made an official state religion. That is a lot different than
>Africa has longer history with Christianity than Europe, and TC universe reflects this.
History with a religion doesn't start when it's made the state religion. Although again, it doesn't matter except for this weird pissing contest to own the whitoids.
BTW I figured out what you meant when, because you certainly didn't give any sources, I asked AI and it conflates the two as well. I didn't do that before because I actually know the history and was responding to your post as written instead of the moved goalpost.

>>97621828
to be fair its very hard to hear clearly from God in TC since entire monk orders build tower of babel 1.5 to try and hear him but everything he has said, will say, or is currently saying is all picked up at once so they have to dig through it to deal with the major issues
the indulgence thing is likely the church just trying to get funds to you know deal with the hordes of demons, satan worshipers, and other shit that hell is shitting out to raid the coast lines and push the front lines

>>97621897
or hear me out
nobody want to start revelations in TC?
the reason no real flesh and blood demons are on the battlefield in TC is because the moment they do, God gives the all clear for an angel to tactically nuke a horde of sinners with its mere presence
Demons dont want to start the end of days because they will lose, in the book a demon even says "we want to be able to bargain with the creator to live how we want" (which is eating babies and hunting humans for sport and clothing but i digress)
God in TC doesnt want to destroy mankind or he just send a horde of angels to nuke the world like in that short story where even the faithful ignite like a candle in a furnace from even the minor sins they commited from seeing something so holy
so TC is a cold war between heaven and hell with mankind, half animal hybrids, and whatever the fuck Bezzlebub is doing

Are plastic Prussian scans out yet in stl form?
I like them but don’t want to pay the GW tax.

>>97629560
Nice, nothing that unexpected (symptoms/strains has been the major suggestion for a while) but the Amalgam stuff is pretty interesting - reabsorbing tough and the capacity to generate new thralls.

I do especially enjoy getting 2 symptoms per thrall as a certain ducat threshold.

>>97611317
Sounds like it was written by evil churches propagandists.

>>97609426
>Our very perception of goodness was designed by him to suit his whims, and when his actions are judged by that perception as you would a man, God is not so good.
This is a Gnostic or possibly Maltheist perspective, and the heretics are explicitly worshipping devils

>>97629560
>https://www.trenchcrusade.com/news/april-2026-rules-review-grenades/
We also got grenade stuff, lot of proposed suggestions. Thoughts on the fumble rule? Seems kinda feelsbad.

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>>97630991
gnostics believe in reincarnation and that everything physical is just a meme

actually makes sense how they could be the catalyst for hell taking over so much, if they thought there was a genuine shot at freeing everyone from the soul-prison then what is a little discomfort during the procedure? all those rapes, murders, sins and what not are irrelevant in the long term and can be likened to say the pain you would feel taking a splinter out, it's worth it in the end for ending all the future pain that splinter will cause.

>>97629730
This sounds more like Euro cope when they try to claim Christianity and realize, as usual, the 'niggers' (because you are almost certainly American) did it longer and arguably better in terms of living the Word.

>>97622513
This is, ironically, the exact kind of in-setting justifications that would be used.

>>97620455
The fact they did this because Americans are so stupid is a real indictment on how ignorant they really are.

>>97614346
It's easier to grift that way, instead of saying the setting exists on 'When you stare in to the abyss'.
>>97614508
It's an inelegant way to describe the factions of the faithful turning full heretic, by the word of their own books, in the bid to survive. The less you know about religion, the less sense it makes.

New Iron Sultanate rules changes review out as well
>https://www.trenchcrusade.com/news/april-2026-rules-review-the-iron-sultanate/

>>97635085
Glad the spoon-void has been filled.
Cleave 2 on the lions is actually solid i reckon. Worth the cost at least

>>97636630
For 10 ducats you better believe im running that shit. The lion will not be stopped

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Finished up some of my Trench Pilgrims. Ecclesiastic Prisoner with martyrdom device

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>>97637426
Bonus meme

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>>97637472
Fuck. Here's a fixed version without spelling errors and grammatical mistakes.

Why would I play this partisan garbage wargame when rpgs are superior?

>>97635085
They also previewed some other changes for Black grail, Mercs, and maybe a grenade nerf

Grail glow up incoming
https://www.trenchcrusade.com/news/april-2026-rules-review-amalgam/

>>97616021
I believe that Africa is currently at war with mammon, who is trying to gain control of the gold mines in Africa and has already taken Egypt.
look up the Abyssinian expeditionary force for Antioch its fun stuff.

>>97616021
There are strong christian kingdoms in north-west africa, as well as a number of smaller scattered muslim groups after the fall of Egypt. that said, north africa has suffered much more from the forces of hell compared to europe since Antioch/Iron Sultanate aren't there to block access via the main hellgate as they are for europe.

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>>97629998
A good way of summing it.

>TFW you realize the 'great flood' and 'Noah's arc' was just what happened the last time the Heretic forces won and conquered earth.

>>97623849
as if poor white trash are not thieves

>>97637983
The great flood literally happened because the world was full of Nephilim

>>97638872
I mean, the court involves a lot of half angel half mortal children, so that tracks.

>>97637728
Mercs too
>https://www.trenchcrusade.com/news/april-2026-rules-review-mercenaries/
Some slight buffs and reworks, Observer got a nerf (costs more now).

>>97638872
>Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of mankind was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of their hearts was only evil continually. So the LORD was sorry that He had made mankind on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. Then the LORD said, “I will wipe out mankind whom I have created from the face of the land; mankind, and animals as well, and crawling things, and the birds of the sky. For I am sorry that I have made them.” But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD.

Genesis 6:5-8. The flood's primary cause was always the wickedness of man, and arguably the only reason was the mixing of the "sons of God" with the daughters of man which doesn't mean what you think it means. In short it's just some classic humans falling into temptation. Please don't skip bible study anon.

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Goddamn bros I love the Prussian minis a lot, still a beginner but happy with my paints so far.

>>97641970
The new changes they introduced are so nice, the Amalgam is such a monster with the new buffs

>>97617258
I don't know if I really underestimated this game's lethality or if my opponent was just really lucky at first. My alchemist and one janny got immediately one-tapped by sniper priests in the first turn. I was worried that the bull wouldn't be able to do anything before being shot off the board but he ended up winning the game for me. Too bee fare I played against another noob so neither of us played optimally. In the end, I only lost one Azeb and got a Masterwork Jezzail for my alchemist, next game is against Heretic Legion this week.

>>97644760
>I don't know if I really underestimated this game's lethality
This.
It is fanatically easy to lose models, on purpose.

>>97644760
Having played more than a few campaign games I've reached the conclusion that armor is basically worthless for basic troops, a -1 or even a -2 can so easily get ignored it's barely even worth the points on your elites

>>97644760
I've had games where i've lost 3 minis out in the first turn. TC can be very deadly when the dice rolls aren't in your favor

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All four of my stigmatic nuns are now done.
yes, left nun is a BIG AMAZON GIRL

>www.trenchcrusade.com/news/april-2026-rules-review-infiltrators/

New ideas for infiltrators to do something when in a non-infiltrator-scenario.

> Forward Positions: When you deploy a model with the INFILTRATOR Keyword at the start of a game, you can deploy them up to 6″ outside of their side’s deployment zone.
> We toyed with the idea of a free move after being deployed in the deployment zone instead, but that might not fix the issue of fairness in some scenarios and cause other unforeseen problems. Feel free to try this idea out instead and tell us if it works fine.
>Blending In: A model with the INFILTRATOR Keyword that starts the game on Open terrain has the COVER Keyword until it moves away from its starting position.
> A variant on this would be to give a double cover bonus of -2 Dice when the model is in cover at the start of the game. Full-on ‘hiding’ like Heretic Legion Death Commandos do is also another possibility, but that’s starting to feel rather overpowered and also falls into the realm of potential unintended consequences.

What do we think? Forward Positions seems the simplest and still feels 'infiltrator' to me. The cover stuff seems stealthy but not like they're actually infiltrating.

>>97645852
Having played or spectated 30+ campaign games, my experience is honestly exactly the opposite. Having 2 or 3 armour increases your survivability immensly, unless enemy has something with armour penetration.Players who prioritised lower numbers of expensively equipped and armoured models consistently did better in our games than players who just thrown a mob of unarmoured mooks at enemies, because the latter tend to drop like flies even from most basic weapons. The former at least have a decent chance of surviving

>>97648657
I think this may be skewed by army.
You can have a handful of baller guys in something like Court, Grail, Prussia, Heretics.
Less so with IS, Brigade (imo), NA to a point.
>my lack of armor pen with IS is something I, and others, have grumbled about in past threads

>>97605121
Proof that hell exists isn't proof that heaven does, especially when the hell doesn't actually match up with the hell of the Bible all too much.

>>97621828
Why would it be obvious that it doesn't work? What about hell being real proves that your specific interpretation of god is the correct interpretation?

>>97621911
But obviously the forces of hell taking over the earth is 100% historically accurate

>>97609923
>Hell’s regime is built on large‑scale child sacrifice and the exploitation of ordinary humans as slaves

Which the church aligned forces also do...

>>97615366
>There is nothing profound or meaningful by saying life is cruel so everyone is better of dead.

Incredibly ironic considering the christian theological emphasis on martyrdom and the purpose of living a life of suffering is so you can be rewarded after death.

>>97614508
If one serial killer murders babies but another only refuses to do so, would that make the non-baby murderer "good" in a clear black and white sense?

>>97650245
I would challenge you to show me where the church engages in industrial scope child sacrifice.
At best, you have the kids that work in the tower of babel.
This is a matter of scope and of cause.

>>97650277
Not that anon but those children agreed to be sacrificed and you can't prove otherwise.

>>97637983
If the demons are meant as a great flood type of punishment, does that make them good since they're effectively a tool of god?

>>97650280
>those children agreed to be sacrificed
According to whom?
Now this is getting silly for no end.

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>>97650277
Pictured here: a child "working"

>>97650295
He's happy and free. He couldn't have the Freedom and Fun Antenna if he wasn't, because God would know he's lying and turn him gay.

>>97650295
>industrial scope child sacrifice
I know you are shitposting, but it's dumb shitposting.

>>97650261
>This self-destructive attitude chafes many members of the clergy, who do not condone the existence of the unit; as suicide is a mortal sin.

You’re applying your own understanding of Christianity to a fictional setting. In the Trench Crusade universe, the clergy disapprove of Trench Pilgrims and the Red Brigade a they view the act of deliberately seeking martyrdom as a form of suicide.

>>97605237
I mean it's a little complicated because there is a right answer to the test and you would think at least some of them would figure that out.

>>97650504
>You’re applying your own understanding of Christianity to a fictional setting.

Considering the crucifix is a holy symbol in the setting, I would assume that christ's sacrifice and resurrection is still a part of its biblical canon.

>>97650404
They explicitly produce surgical abominations by mutilating children on an industrial scale for their war effort anon

>>97614661
>it's perspective
It's really not. See the problem is that your Tyrant actually exists in a universe made for or by him. The alternative is in every practical measure worst. If he's a tyrant for being god, the rule of nature is tyrannical and we're left with
>serve or be tortured forever by your so called brothers none the less.

>protest
Lol you really are a faggot

>>97615183
>also as an /x/ enjoyer
Yeah there is something wrong with Satanism. See the big thing is that everyone and their brother wants to read between the lines on Christianity but no one wants to do that for their pet degeneracy.
>Oh We Only Want Absolute Power in our Domain, Never Ever Would I, a Satanist, Who Reveres the Father of Lies, Who I name that way myself, would ever Lie about where or who I want power over. It's just Self Mastery brah, totally not banging retard teen girls and Pyramid scheme, the Pyramid is my DOMAIN.

Going back to the game for a second, and in a fashion only leftists could design, regular human life just has no value in TC. They want to bang on god for giving anything to the no life trash (along wtih commandments) but the 'wizard utopia' of the forces of hell in the game is about the most despotic thing conceivable. They will do everything they critize god for doing and worst.

>>97650510
The grib is that God is explicitly non-present in TC, on purpose, while demons are right there, taking over your city.
You are applying morality to survival as though we do not have millions of irl examples that people don't work that way.

Anyone tried running a Sacred Affliction castigator with wrath of god and zealous strength? Worth teh ducats or not? My idea is that my castigator will be able to wade through most ranged fire due to not caring about blood markers even though they won't have armor.

>Campaign Rules: Enabled (Warrior Saint, Reroll)
>Warband Variant: Procession of the Sacred Affliction

## Elite [235 Ducats]
>Castigator [98 Ducats]: Wrath of God [15 Ducats], Zealot Strength [5 Ducats], Trench Knife [1 Ducats], Great Sword/Axe [12 Ducats], Incendiary Grenades [15 Ducats]
>War Prophet [137 Ducats]: Semi-Automatic Rifle [15 Ducats], Great Sword/Axe [12 Ducats], Standard Armour [15 Ducats], Blessed Icon [15 Ducats]

## Troop [465 Ducats]
>Ecclesiastic Prisoner [55 Ducats]: Martyrdom Device [35 Ducats]
>Ecclesiastic Prisoner [55 Ducats]: Martyrdom Device [35 Ducats]
>Ecclesiastic Prisoner [55 Ducats]: Martyrdom Device [35 Ducats]
>Stigmatic Nun [82 Ducats]: Great Sword/Axe [12 Ducats], Warcross [5 Ducats], Standard Armour [15 Ducats]
>Stigmatic Nun [90 Ducats]: Anti-Tank Hammer [35 Ducats], Warcross [5 Ducats]
>Stigmatic Nun [65 Ducats]: Pistol [6 Ducats], Sword/Axe [4 Ducats], Warcross [5 Ducats]
>Stigmatic Nun [63 Ducats]: Trench Club [3 Ducats], Flail [5 Ducats], Warcross [5 Ducats]

My plan is to have the castigator roll along with the great-sword and anti-tank hammer nuns as a murderball while the other two nuns hunt troops/takes objectives, the prisoners act as guided missiles for high value targets and the war prophet goes where needed.
I know i will be outranged by most other teams but if i can weather 1-2 turns of shooting I should be able to blenderbitch my way to victory.

>>97651002
Oh and why i don't have a communicant is because i don't have a good communicant model.

>>97650523
Are you talking about the creations of Trench Pilgrim Communican? As those are considered Heresy by the church which is why New Antioch cannot use them. The official Communican are made in a 'controlled' environment rather than relying on the mass sacrifice of 'volunteers'.

>>97651090
No that's not what I' referring to I was speaking about the "god radios" that are created by the synod of strategic prophesy.

>Beneath the Synod's headquarters, deep within the Valley of the Word's bedrock, dwell the Prophetic Tacticians, the most precious assets of the Synod. These gifted children are surgically, genetically, and chemically altered to make them perfectly suited to their role. They are equipped with strange and esoteric equipment that allows them to hear the word of God.

>Their seclusion is even more extreme than those of the Observers, and the strain on their bodies and minds is far more severe.

>The younger they are when their training begins the better, the stronger their connection, for the closer they are to innocence, the easier it is for them to hear the Divine Words.

Also I don't know where you're getting that lore on the communicants from. They're explicitly made by the church to serve the church's militant groups. 1 in 3 "volunteers" die or are crippled some way in the process. Certain sects view this as a heresy but the core church does not.

>>97647392
nice tits damn

>>97647392
>No bro I didn't make any scaling mistakes when printing my minis, she's literally named "Sister Dimitrescu" on my warband sheet.

>>97651578
>They're explicitly made by the church to serve the church's militant groups.
No.They are explicitly different from the communicants of the church. The ones used by Trench Pilgrims are made in 'unsanctioned laboratories'. This lore can be found in the warband section for Trench Pilgrims. The church itself seems very strict on any form of suicide and does not control all the smaller cults.

>>97653931
Great, now i need to name the big armored nun Sister Dimitrescu in my warband.

>>97655347
Write it on the base as well

Companion anon here, we've implimented the random scenario generator onto the app now. You can share/copy link codes.

>trench-companion.com/compendium/scenarios/random

How's the crunch?

>>97658756
Medium.
Core rules are short, punchy, lethal.
Real rules interactions come from factions and units, and how they interact.
Very similar to Mordheim in execution.

>>97650353
The children yearn to become an antenna.

>>97647392
Honestly with the size and aesthetic she'd make a good Elite mini for an all-nuns warband.

Also where did you get said mini. Could be nice as a Hell knight if upscaled a head or two more.

>>97660368
It was some random female fantasy knight i got off of Temu a while back. i was gonna use it as a DnD mini for a female goliath fighter but figured it would be better suited for my TC warband