https://youtu.be/Vz-W0dFppss?si=kV-70bFSMkBmW6Mn
the leftoids infiltrating this board can't stand this one

I'm sure you could find some youtube channel for your rage porn

>>97598130
You first. Unless you don’t play games and are just content farming.

>>97598148
Ah, so THAT’s the channel this is all going towards. Some no-name loser on YouTube. Go buy an ad if you’re so desperate, you shill.

Meatspace RPG groups are going to be heavily socially sorted, and any social group that contained both SJWs and Anti-SJWs would have already had their big blowout long before anyone sat down at a table together.

So unfortunately it's all the shadowboxing trench warfare of SJWs doing obnoxious things, a non-SJW complaining, and three articles being written about the savage harassment of queer women of color by racist chuds.

One thing I'll note is that I've seen very, very few actual People of Color playing tiefling-tea-party games. Oh, they've got the full gender spectrum of straight women who hate men, queer women who hate men, men who dress as women, women who dress as ugly women, and so on. But the only time I've seen anyone non-white involved with the rolling of dice, wokeness was either absent or a subject of ridicule.

>>>/reddit/

>There's always some thread(s) or other of low-effort culture war bait, and it's always full of "Seeth chud, you lost" and people complaining about people complaining about people complaining about politics.
Is there?

>>97598234
Yes, and it's currently this thread

>>97598130
I made all these threads (freakshit, level 3, session 0, etc).

>assert an opinion on some culture war thing in 1-2 sentences
>google "dnd woke" or "dnd queer" to find an image to go with it
>ragebait the first 1-2 replies
>wait
>thread hits bump limit as autistic troglodytes argue about the ethics of pretending to be a queer warlock tiefling that takes SSRIs, in a literal make-believe cringefest game

/tg/ deserves this.

>>97598130
I've actually got a story like that. I've regularly run The Champion's Belt from Age of Worms as a module: In brief, the Champion's Belt is that the PCs are fighting as gladiators in an annual tournament, while trying to look for a girl who has gone missing (and has in fact been murdered and reanimated as a zombie) in their off-hours. But the highlights of the module are the Championship Belt fights, notably a four-way fight in the opening bout and the final battle which gets interrupted by a giant undead worm demon trying to murder the players.
I had one player who went "DM, there's too much violence against women in this module. Can you tone it down a bit?"

So I take a look and maybe she's right - To clarify, the changes I usually make to the module are as follows.
The opening fight has a Druid and his henchman, a team of all-female Elven archers, and an Arabian rider and his lancers all fighting each other. I usually make the Arabian rider a woman instead, because it makes the PCs more interested in interacting with her.
Also, the subsequent fight, Pitch Blade, is against a pair of Dwarven Barbarians. I usually change it to a female human Barbarian and a Blackguard, since no-one really cares about Dwarves (who don't have speaking roles in the original module).

>>97598299
So I say "Okay, fine - I'll change the Arabian team back to guys and Pitch Blade back to guys, okay"? The player says she doesn't want that, she still wants them to be female, but she doesn't want violence to be enacted against them. I say that you're supposed to fight this team anyway, don't worry about it.
This becomes a really stupid argument about how you shouldn't remove women from an adventure when they weren't there in the first place. Ultimately, it boils down to:
> "I want women to have a prominent role in the module, but I don't want them to be defeated or prominently injured"
which is impossible because the NPC they're looking for has already been turned into the zombie servant of a dark priest.
Ultimately, I just threw my hands up and booted the player. I've already found another one, but this was fucking frustrating as hell. I never thought I'd have to deal with people like that, and honestly it's left a bad taste.
Now I curate my group more carefully than ever before, I don't want to run games for people like that. This was the first time shit like that came to my table.

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>>97598211
I had recently moved and was looking into the local RPG scene. I found a bar that had a drop-in D&D night.

The games I played in were really, really bad. Games ran between 7 and 11, so after breaks and dickaround there was at best 3.5 hours of gametime. Yet every adventure started with the players having to meet eachother by happenstance, talk about their backstories, dick around in town, find a questgiver, and all agree to go on the quest. One guy said "NO, my character wouldn't be interested in this quest, you'll have to convince me." And instead of leaving his ass in town, as I suggested, they wasted 30 minutes "roleplaying" their cajolling of Narcissus McContrarian. Then there was something involving the feywild, and we fought one hag. The fight had zero stakes because we were fully-charged 5th-level 5e characters having their first encounter of the day. Two out of Ten, Would Not Recommend.

But what really struck me was just how godsdamned un-fucking-pleasant everyone there was out of game. I tried asking about any good books they'd read lately, and every single one was described as "Omg, it's so queer, you have to read it." People would ask rules questions, someone else would answer the question, and then the asker or a third party would accuse the answerer of mansplaining. One guy(?) talked about the "disgusting bigot" that lives next door to him(?). Something-something free palestine, so-and-so is a Gatekeeper, toxic this, privilege that.

None of this was directed at me, I was in sociological observation mode.

These people live in the hipster bohemian neighborhood of a deep-blue major metro area, yet they would not shut the fuck up about the nazis and fascists and entitled mediocre straight white men that apparently lurk under every paving stone and behind every lamp post, on their fucking play-pretend-elves gamenight.

>>97598130
In our campaign we rescued a princess, and one of the PCs could not stop telling her to implement reforms and bring about a kind of Communist utopia. It was clear that the princess didn't give a shit and was annoyed that this crazy woman was bothering her, until she bluntly said:
>"I have peasants to do things for me."
This led to an instant argument about how it was sexist for a woman to be perfectly content with being (you know) a princess and not nursing Marxist fantasies.
It got the player kicked, so I guess we can consider this a win.

I grieve for the loss of the poster count, every day.

>>97598130
>We already know about the Kyle Brink quote
I don't.
I also truly, fundamentally don't care. I don't know who Kyle Brink is. I'm not especially interested in who Kyle Brink is. His name sounds like the alias a 12 year old tries to adopt.

But OP. I want you to know something - you're a massive, colossal faggot. I hope whatever dogshit youtube channel you're trying to get an "epic 4chan screencap" for gets demonitized. I hope your adsense account gets banned. I hope that your patreon doesn't just get banned, I hope they report false information to the IRS about how much you made. I hope you get fucking audited. I hope it lasts for fucking years.

You're probably a dipshit that thinks "oh this lefty is so triggered." But I don't give a shit about your politics, and that's why you're annoying me. Because you're coming into my gaming space and going "aren't we right wingers such based chuds. aren't we all huge chads" and you don't realize how fucking annoying you are.

I do not give a shit about politics, and that includes your bullshit.

>>97598130
You first, OP. You do have stories, right? You play games, don't you?

>>97598342
>I do not give a shit about politics
>I JUST WANNA DRINK MUH BEER
>DRIVE MUH TRUCK
>WEAR MUH BOOTS
>WALK MUH DOG
>CATCH MUH FISH
You are a FAGGOT!

>>97598304
There was also a lot of social stratification.

I should say that the guy who organized the event was quite amiable. He recognized me as a veteran and a potential DM, made an effort to integrate me, and said nothing disparaging towards any group that I can recall. His biggest sin was being...a bit Reddit. (Upon reflection, they were ALL Reddit).

The two big tables were full of visibly-fabulous people. At least half of the PCs were Tieflings, and I specifically remember someone declaring their character was non-binary. So yes, they were indeed a non-binary tiefling warlock. Then there was a third table for leftovers who for whatever reason didn't make it in to the tiefling tea party. They were all conventional-looking dudes. None of the fabulous folx would leave their over-stuffed (7+) tables for this third one, so the organizer guy himself sat in to make a 4th player after his attempts to balance the tables failed.

I observed a woman who was loudly swiping through dudes' Hinge profiles on her phone and shitting on them. A guy next to her asked "Have you ever been on a Hinge date?"
>"Chuh, no. I don't want to get Assaulted."
she said without looking at him. I think she turned away a bit in her seat.
Then a guy on the other side of her mentioned being gay (this wasn't immediately obvious, he looked like 20something Charlie Day). Immediately she leaned towards him, chin in her hand, dreamy loving gaze in her eyes.

I won't lie, a major reason why I was considering continuing to attend was that the group's gender ratio meant that I might actually meet a biological woman there who shared interests with me, and I'd be DMing. To the tiny degree that it's possible to get laid via tabletop RPGs, it's gonna happen via DMing.

This last observation kinda nixed that motivation.

>>97598342
>I do not give a shit about politics, and that includes your bullshit.
To be fair it was the leftists who made RPGs exceedingly political first.
>/pol/ didn't introduce trigger warnings or the X-card in games
>/pol/ didn't try and remove seppuku from L5R because it was "culturally insensitive"
>/pol/ didn't equate orcs with blacks
>/pol/ wasn't the one who rewrote Curse of Strahd to make Strahd a homo and to give the cripples a bit of spit-and-polish.
>/pol/ didn't invent the combat wheelchair, or claim that cripples would be useful in combat.
>/pol/ didn't petition for the complete removal of any mention of slavery from the Pathfinder setting
>/pol/ didn't post that hilariously bad 5E errata.
>/pol/ didn't remove the Confederacy from Deadlands
>/pol/ didn't start an international incident by claiming that vampires were responsible for the gay death camps in Chechnya.
>/pol/ didn't write the incredibly cringey antifa rants in the latest edition of Vampire
>/pol/ didn't invent Fruity Rudy, the gay black antifa Muslim Gangrel Anarch
>/pol/ didn't push for the removal of always-Evil races from D&D
>/pol/ didn't equate orcs with blacks
>/pol/ didn't write stuff like Sigmata or Ugly Sword Trannies
>/pol/ wasn't the one who invented two new cities of drow, because the drow being evil was 'racist'.
>/pol/'s not the one pushing for more diversity in RPGs
>/pol/ wasn't the one who did that cringey 'Warhammer is for Everyone' announcement
>/pol/ didn't force White Wizard Games to change the name to Wise Wizard Games
>/pol/ didn't want female Custodes in 40K
Those were all political actions done by terminally-online leftists.
You made games political. You wanted RPGs to reflect your values, and in doing so turned them into part of the culture war.
A pushback isn't only to be expected, it's the right course of action for all non-insane people.

>>97598304
always loved this Esteren pic

>>97598303
So, was it articulated out loud in plain language that she wants the enemies to be women, but also that women can't be harmed or defeated? Because I feel like saying it out loud should get someone to realize they're being unreasonable.

>>97598428
You think it would have, but she didn't seem to get it.

>>97598342
I don't have politics beyond "People should be themselves," and "Understand systems before you try to change them." While I use colorful language to describe all these people, I don't dislike them for their identities, I dislike them for their behavior (which includes their obsession with identity). You reflexively assume I'm a right-winger.

>>97598130
Get a job, neckbeardia.

>ITT a bunch of idiots falling for Virt's bullshit

>>97598413
interesting. has /pol/ gotten ANY wins in the TTRPG space in the last two decades?

>>97598130
>lets make up shit to get mad at!
Jesus fucking christ, find a real hobby!

>>97599122
That implies /pol/ ever wins in the first place. The best they can do is claim ownership over somebody else's victory.

>>97598413
>x-card is... le political!
And they say leftists politicize everything.

>>97599122
Well a bunch of that wacky woke stuff has flopped, so there's that. And there was that time GW asserted their belief in gender as a biological reality and that only actual men could undergo the Space Marine transformation. I guess the OSR scene growing, but I don't know why wokies consider that one "bigot coded" in the first place. Pretty slim pickings otherwise.

>>97598220
My group in a nutshell, like 30-40% black (and rising). Our table culture is so vile it would cause a troon to combust into flames on contact. Despite our reputation, troons still want to join my games.

>>97598130
who's kyle brink?

>>97598148
holy fuck how embarrassing for you

>>97598303
Why didn't she have a problem with violence against men?

>>97598130
>muh identity politics!
Please just fuck off to >>>/pol/ with this shit

>>97598354
ironic.

>>97599268
It is political, and leftists made it political.

>>97599281
>a bunch of that wacky woke stuff has flopped, so there's that.
Does that even count? Like, its not an advancement for your ideology, its just a failure of your opponent. And not even nesessarily a significant one, since a push can fail because just not enough people care to get behind it
>And there was that time GW asserted their belief in gender as a biological reality and that only actual men could undergo the Space Marine transformation.
I dont think anyone feels like that's set in stone these days. GW has no ethics and marines have been primaris'd before
>the OSR scene growing, but I don't know why wokies consider that one "bigot coded" in the first place.
Maybe just because it appeals to traditionalist nostalgia? Personally i think OSR games all suck so it seems more like a loss for everyone
>Pretty slim pickings otherwise.
Yeah, its a grim time for rightoids in gaming. They've got to start publishing some modules or something or the entire gaming culture will just be swept out from under them, assuming they ever led it at all

>>97598404
And then everyone clapped

>>97598342
>I also truly, fundamentally don't care.
>*writes a three paragraph essay about it*
Pick one.

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>>97598148
This is laced with a lot of /pol/ retardation but he's right.
Tabletop is infested with theater kids who are somehow more socially retarded than your average grognard and want GMs to construct their personal little world instead of being a part of a cooperative effort.
I'm glad for my semi-static group of players that are usually down for whatever. I can't imagine what it's like wading through the absolute refuse infesting Roll20 or local shops in the year 2026.

>>97598220
>tiefling-tea-party
That's hilarious.
>>97599122
Permanent foothold in the 40k space. Sure, Female Custodes blah blah blah, but they inspired a permanent revolt, and female Space Marines will NEVER happen. Chuds quote 40k under unrelated political videos, the Emperor is permanently associated with Trump. Several factions are chud-coded and they can't do anything about it without making it conspicuous.
Space King completely won the argument with GW, and while they're also making fun of chuds, it's affectionate.
It also seems like chuds won historicals by default, lefties just can't handle the subject matter unless you could only play as Red Guard and Saracens.

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>>97599562
>can't imagine what it's like
>now let me tell you exactly how i imagine it to be like
>while admitting that ive never even tried it

>>97599541
>Maybe just because it appeals to traditionalist nostalgia?
Nobody likes fake nostalgia more than woke millennials. No, it's simple. Grogs = white males.
And OSR gameplay is the exact opposite of the narrative-only nonsense that appeals to tourists, so they get filtered.
>Yeah, its a grim time for rightoids in gaming. They've got to start publishing some modules or something or the entire gaming culture will just be swept out from under them, assuming they ever led it at all
I feel like this isn't entirely good faith, but before the culture war, neither side "led" it, since a total breakdown in relations hadn't happened yet there were many chuds or people who could retroactively get thrown in the bucket (they went after Gygax, after all). TTRPGs were never right wing, but they were intolerably right wing to the current gaggle of progressives, which is a healthy place to be.
>>97599617
>how do you know swimming in lava is bad if you've never tried it? Checkmate, chuds.

>>97599617
>deltatroon reaction image
I can see why his post upset you so much.

>>97598337
Things were already irreparably bad when that was removed.

>>97598413
They don't care about all that, because they can't take accountability for anything they've ever said, nor can they take responsibility for anything they've ever done. All they can do is scream about chuds and bigots, and go on interest forums to pose as disinterested third parties.

>>97599122
>umm we might be acting like politically obsessed troglodytes but we're WINNING
Very Indian behavior, your Izzat has been restored. Good work.

>>97598148
zamn that was the easiest report user profile picture ever

I'm disappointed. You'd think /tg/ would be overflowing with anecdotes about bad encounters with Leftists.

>>97599935
It turns out people who don't like annoying leftists.... avoid them.

>>97599935
Dunno about /up tg/, but I stopped playing with retards that routinely piss me off, whether they be chud dorks or social justice dorks.

>>97599935
I suppose the only people who play with them who aren't also obnoxious leftists are allies who won't let themselves think bad thoughts about Leftists no matter how obnoxious they are, because
>>97598220

>>97599855
>NOOOO HE HAD SQUIGGLY LINES IN HIS PICTURE HELP ME BLACK TOM

>>97598130
>we all know about the no-racists-allowed not-particularly-fine print in every sourcebook.
Isn't that only VtM, or do D&D and CoC now have those?

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>>97599945
I've just never encountered this proverbial chud nazi game, wherein colonialism is perpetrated with glee, women are raped with guffaws, and gays are thrown from great heights, all in fantasy settings that consist of lily-white europe from pole to pole and meridian to meridian.

I've been in games run by /pol/ people that push dark themes that would offend a prog, but no identity groups were being bashed. We were mercenaries hired by an obviously-evil expansionist nationalist faction that was portrayed as highly organized but fundamentally incompetent, with lots of impractical one-off superweapons, who's soldiers were all hopped up on amphetamines, and we were intended to betray our employers.

>>97599935
That's because as 4chan becomes more normalized, it becomes more flooded with leftists.

>>97600004
Nah, I mean the guys who whinge and whine about political shit not directly involved with the game and refuse to shut up and leave it for after the game. If people want to larp as unironic nazis or antifs at their own table, I just won’t join since it would be stupid to join a table running a game I’m not as interested in.

>>97599607
So Chuds won Wargaming, but SJWs won TTRPGs?

>>97600046
Chuds are mad that cozy diverse non-violent LGBTQ tea-party has become the style of game that WotC officially panders to instead of making anything of quality.

SJWs are mad that someone, somewhere, either isn't including people of color in their game, or IS, but is doing it while not also being of color.

>>97600004
Nobody that's labeled as "right wing" and genuinely enjoys the hobby actually fantasizes about ethnic cleansing or rape, but it does show through subtly at times.
In my GURPS games the players are under an authoritarian military dictatorship and they are 100% happy to support the status quo because the setting revolves around the last human city where education is based around critical thinking rather than memorization, everyone is forced to be fit or undergo a high intensity weight loss program, everyone is trained to handle firearms in defense of their city, and all the degenerates and conscientious objectors are corralled into a ward of commieblock apartments. I wasn't even trying to make a chud utopia, it just came to me as I was trying to make a good setting.

>our Dungeon Facilitator (we don't use the M-word) says the kingdom is ran by a good king
>i break out into a stellar argument about how there's no such thing as a 'good' king because monarchies inherently rely on problematic power balances that are antithetical to the meritocratic nature of games about pretending to be an elf in a dungeon
>the whole gaming café gets up and claps and i'm awarded free lattes for life by the cute pink-haired barista who lets me finger her after the session

bleeding-heart conservatives and statists on s**cide watch!!

>>97600049
>So Chuds won Wargaming
It's more like trench warfare, both sides are dug in and take potshots at each other but nobody's going anywhere.
I didn't even mean to make a TC reference but that whole dumpster fire shows that chuds haven't won by any stretch of imagination.

>>97599935
Turns out chuds outannoyed leftists long ago.

>>97598130
One game one of the players turned into radical feminist droneswarm, I turned into a literal attack helicopter and we chased down the last white cis-het player character down a highway. It was awesome

>>97598130
They tend to stick to 5e, or PbTA games, neither of which I play, so I'm pretty filtered from them. Honestly keeping 5e as a containment game is probably the best thing you can do to have an enjoyable gaming experience. Not only will you avoid the "SJWs" you'll also avoid the furries, tumblr OC types with 20 page backstories, the Critical Role fans who expect you to be a professional level DM, ect.
And yeah you'll have a smaller player pool than if you were playing 5e, but that pool of players will be higher quality. And a player refusing to play anything other than DnD 5e is usually a red flag anyway.

>>97599935
Most of them don't actually play games. That's why DnD 2024 was a sales disaster. Also most people play RPGs with their friends, and those types tend to only be friends with people that agree with them. You'll know they're an activist leftist because they'll tell you within 5 minutes of meeting you. Then it's pretty easy to just not invite them to your table.

>>97598448
>"Understand systems before you try to change them."

This is called Chesterton's Fence and it's anathema to leftists. In their eyes you are a fascist for believing this.

I wish /pol/ would stop having containment breaches.

>>97601089
>I wish /pol/ would stop having containment breaches.
Containing /pol/ is literally part of Epstein's plan.

>>97601102
>Epstein
Clutch your pearls harder.

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>>97598413
>start an international incident by claiming that vampires were responsible for the gay death camps in Chechnya
QRD?

>>97601149
He's making it up

>>97601036
>UMM AKSHUALLY IT'S LE LEFTISTS WHO ARE ANTI-INTELLECTUAL!
Oh boy.

>>97601149
https://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/srhua3/martin_ericsson_defends_controversial_v5_chechnya/
>>97601182
kek aren't you the one denying basic reality here for a game you have no knowledge on

>>97599281
So like the anon say - you can only claim someone's else failures and success as your own.
Also
>OSR
>politics
You faggots are unbearable with trying to bandwagon to it, in some insane "if it's like the old games, then it means people behind it are /pol/tards or at least conservatives"

>>97599935
Yes, surely we chuds are all so ignorant for not participating in games with people we know that we will find intolerable, instead of just gritting our teeth and baring it so we can write scathing anecdotes on the internet. Now that's how you enjoy tabletop.

>>97598130
seethe chud, you lost

>>97598130
One can't help but wonder why you can't stay on /pol/ and have to come here for your masturbatory bullshit.

>>97598226
/tg/ is a reddit board, evident by puckee frequently posting here

Many years ago, I made a home brew kind or "monster hunter of pokemon" mod for World of Darkness. So the players had to go hunt down dangerous pokemon with guns and cars etc. The players were got a multiple choice adventure where they could pick which contracts to take. This one was that an onyx was terrorizing a lumber operation. PCs had to go find a way to kill a giant snake made of rocks. Part of the story here was that the foreman for the lumberjacks couldn't really afford the fee. The reward was to keep the onyx corpse which sometimes contain precious gems. Amidst all this flavor the fireman says something like
>get that onyx. I'm blowing money paying all my guys to sit around.
This one guy who was new to our group fucking lost it. He's like "why are youboaying them to do nothing?" And I just added "union rules". It was not part of the story or the mission. Just improvised dialogue, but he wouldn't let it go. Kept going on and on about how HIS union(his irl union) never got him paid to do nothing, and that he'd make it his mission to destroy this union or change it.
Now I know that doesnt make him sound like a leftists but this guy was black, fat, and gay. So I feel uncomfortable not stereotyping him. It was a politically motivated blow up.

Later this guy rolls a critical success to forage for food in the wild and I gifted him a free lunch in the form of a helpless critter (an oddish) he could squash and eat. I told him it's poisonous unless he cooks it and at that he turned up his nose and RE-ROLLED AFTER A CRIT(At a penalty btw).

>>97601669
On /pol/ you can't discuss games or media
On the game and media boards you cant discuss why the games and media are shit nowadays.

>>97601703
You don't care about games, you're not here to talk about games.

>>97601706
I care about games which is why I'm bothered that they've been ruined by non-gamers who only wish to turn my fun into a platform for their ideologies.

>>97598413
You realize none of these things an happen without the consent of the creators involved, right? Are you really so hung up on the performative support of spineless faggots that you'll shit in your own pool out of spite?

>>97598130
ITT: /pol/ reskins political fanfiction from their board to be tabletop stories.

>>97599541
What would a rightoid /pol/ module even look like? Who the hell wants to go on an adventure as the cops?

"What does Jim do on his Saturdays?"
"Oh, he roleplays being a low-level guard in a concentration camp."
"Are the libs owned by that?"
"I don't think they are aware of his existence."

>>97602240
>What would a rightoid /pol/ module even look like?
The Lord of The Rings

>>97598130
I can't imagine being fatherless enough to be offended by tabletop games, like you.

>>97602086
The craters are all emlonballed lefties who had no idea what they were making was "right wing". They were just applying logic to a scenario, and magically, that produces rw outcomes.
Like..."being crippled does not grant advantages in combat"
Ikr? How fascistic.
The creators succumbed to the pussy whip and now spend their times shitting on their customers on Twitter Iinstead of making more content all because they think it will get them laid(it doesnt).

>>97602335
>LotR
>the work where a black man becomes King of the most important kingdoms of Men

>>97602339
He has a father. His father is just ashamed of him.

>>97602351
>The craters are all emlonballed lefties who had no idea what they were making was "right wing."
So then maybe right wingers should make something other than RaHoWa rather than whining and sneeding about stuff "lefties" have made.
>They were just applying logic to a scenario, and magically, that produces rw outcomes.
Like..."being crippled does not grant advantages in combat"
Dude, the "combat wheelchair" was like some one-off idea in a system where combat is totally abstract anyway. If you're going to police d20 system content for "realism" there are much lower hanging fruit than that...like hit points.
>Ikr? How fascistic.
Yeah, people having fun in their own games is not okay. Right-wingers need to unite behind the cause of telling people what to do in their own games, unlike those evil leftists telling people what to do in their own games.
>The creators succumbed to the pussy whip and now spend their times shitting on their customers on Twitter Iinstead of making more content all because they think it will get them laid(it doesnt).
The moral and psychological failings of "Wiggy" are not worth panicking over.

>>97602541
>go make your own thing
>youre banned
>youre kicked out
>your payment processors are suspended
>you cant play that
>your mods are removed from the website
>youre associated with this other person youre banned
*yawn*

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>>97602559
>the only thing holding me back from making awesome shit is hypothetical oppression
Yeah. Ok, bud.

>>97602559
>go make your own thing
is meaningfully different than all the rest of the crap you posted. Are you seriously saying that stuff has to conform to right-wing ideas?

>>97602647
I'm saying when people try to make things that deviate from the narrative they get stopped. Sure I can tailor the rules to cut the fag shit out at my table but I could never get it written in the book. There's no even playing field here, and the reason why is because certain kinds of things would always win. So those sorts of things have to be banned. Then people like you label those things "right wing" and pretend those words mean anything.
If we had a political zoo of games and settings that were allowed to live or die on the backs of the people that support them none of this would be happening but it isn't, and the things I listed are manifestations of that phenomenon.

>>97602639
Stopping it from getting published, or posted, or talked about. Stopping it from a corporate budget like is getting handed out for free to anyone who'll slap a rainbow sticker on their idea.

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>>97602639

>hypothetical

it's common knowledge that leftists go after your livelihood in leftist-majority spaces if you get too popular and publically aren't a leftist. there's also the fact that they actively shun and attack anyone who is publically non-leftist is impossible to ignore.

i went to a local artists convention and there were zero openly conservative artists, but at least a half dozen open "witches" and "hex the patriarchy" types and at least a dozen to two dozen open trannies shilling their pro-LGBT merchandise. zero open conservatives, zero open christians.

what would happen if someone that openly didn't support LGBT tried to open up their own stall in that convention? the other stall renters would complain to the convention owners that they """"feel unsafe"""" about the convention harboring people who promote hate speech, and would get them booted from holding their stall at the event.

this is literally common knowledge. if it's invisible to you, try make some friends who aren't pro LGBT. they're people too.

>>97602775
Things that are common knowledge or are impossible to ignore are the favorite things leftists like to pretend they don't understand. They learned the habit as children and never grew out of it.

>>97602775
So are you sure that all this hypothetical oppression is the thing keeping you from making a system or is it laziness and lack of any skills. It just seems like you niggas all got some sob stories about why you ain't ever tried to make shit.

>>97602806
>huh? What? No way. That never happens. You must just have low self esteem(like me). That's why you(I assume) do nothing(like me).

>>97602813
If it is a lie, post up your PDF. Let's see if you were oppressed or you just suck. You do have some of your work to show us right. You wouldn't just claim you are oppressed without actually having faced any of that supposed oppression. Right, 4chan?

>>97602806

You've never actually tried to make and promote something yourself, and it shows.

I've made and published my own video game on steam, coded it from scratch (no engine), did all the art, collaborated with a musician for the music, and was promoting the game casually on the relevant servers. It's not the most amazing game in the world and I don't have the budget for big marketing so I was trying to just go by word of mouth for now, while I grind my skills to make better things.

I avoided the topic of politics for as long as possible on those servers, but then when the topic of politics came up, and I said I wasn't pro LGBT, guess what happened every time? I was banned from the server. Literally no other reason. It's gotten me in the mindset that I can only really be myself and promote my things if I can find places that are explicitly right wing. The problem is, that the leftist pro-LGBT crowd are militantly invading every single pop culture and artistic space. There are no right wing gaming/pop culture spaces.

This is why if someone isn't pro LGBT, they don't talk about it publically. They are scared for their livelihood, because they get harassed, attacked, shunned, etc, by leftists for not being pro LGBT. They find it easier to just pay lip service to things they don't believe in. But what about the people who don't want to constantly lie?

I've put in the work. I'm telling you what happens in the real world. If you want to keep, then you actually just have an empathy deficit, and I thought leftists were supposed to have that in abundance. Empathy for me and not for thee, I guess.

>>97602857

*If you want to keep pretending that what I'm saying doesn't actually happen in the real world

Well, it might just be an empathy deficit, or it could be actual psychosis where you just hate people who don't think like you so much that reality that contradicts your hatred just forces your mind to blank it out.

>>97602857
Okay post the game then

>>97602335
>potato eating not-irish manlets save the day
>/pol/
lol

>>97600022
Always has been.

>>97602857
>joins pro-gay server
>"I HATE FAGS"
>gets banned
>"THIS IS OPRESSION WOE IS ME"

>>97602793
>common knowledge
Aka "I made it up". Actual common knowledge isn't so common.

>>97601102
And this is a bad thing how? People who want to talk politics can go to /pol/ We talk about games of make believe with complex rules here.

>>97603107
True, but wokeoid shitlibs is a post 2016 development. Before that you got the type of libs who just hated Bush but thought it was really funny to say Nigger

>>97603112
It does come off a lot like those people complaining they got banned in some game for "nothing" and then there's a chatlog of them just screaming racial slurs.

>>97602339
Okay, lets go back to first principles here.

There's an entire subculture, media ecosystem, and social movement that polices the tone, ideology, and language of art and media. It happens at the scale of journalists and culture writers and activists, and it also happens on an interpersonal scale. Just the other day, I made a reference at work to Tropic Thunder, and two zoomers got all huffy because
>Isn't that the film where Robert Downy JR does Blackface? Ewwwww.
Yes, it's a movie making fun of movies, the joke is that it's a bad idea.
>You obviously don't know the history of oppression suffered by people of color and the emotional damage of-
No, I do know the history, I just don't think anyone was genuinely emotionally scarred by a comedy film. People have just been told they're supposed to get mad when they see a pale face with something dark smeared on it.

That's what slipped out before I shut myself up, because I have to work with these people for a while. I'll try to be a professional adult around them, but I now have very limited interest in being buddy-buddy.

I'm vaguely worried they're gonna hold it against me, because it's happened before. I once mentioned listening to Joe Rogan sometimes when there was an interview with someone interesting. I'd just moved to a big city and really didn't appreciate how fucking orthodox Leftists can be; a few weeks later, I was being called a white supremacist. This was 2019 Joe Rogan, BTW.

I once got banned from an event because I declined to declare my fucking pronouns. I'll make an effort to use people's preferred conventional pronouns, but I am not, NOT, going to formally declare my pronouns when introducing myself in casual social settings, and I will fucking judge those who do as cringey avant-garde conformists.

>>97603112

>joins pro-gay server

The way you phrased your response makes it seem like you think pro gay servers are just one of the many kinds of gaming culture servers available in the mainstream. You obviously know this is not true. There are no mainstream gaming or pop culture spaces that aren't militantly and mandatorily pro-gay. Every mainstream gaming space has been co-opted by the pro LGBT crowd, making it mandatory for you to be pro-gay in order to participate in the space.

These are not the minority. These are not even half in a fifty fifty split. These are an overwhelming majority. You are required to be publically pro-gay in order to participate in mainstream gaming culture. If you are discovered to not be pro-gay, then you are actively chased out of the industries.

>I HATE FAGS
I can't prevent you from hating people who disagree with you, but I'll at least suggest you don't project that hatred onto others. Almost every time (with maybe one(1) exception) I talk to a leftist about not being pro LGBT, they assume I hate the gays and want them dead. They don't understand the concept of not hating someone you don't agree with, because they just hate the people they don't agree with themselves.

>>97603156
>This was 2019 Joe Rogan, BTW.
Yeah he was pretty stupid and deranged back then too.
Not as bad as now where he thinks Jesus will be AI but the seeds were there already.

>>97603150

In this case, you will just have to trust me, bro.

>>97603156
>continued
Tabletop RPGs are a form of creative endeavor with a very very low barrier to entry. I can't write a novel, and if I tried, it'd be terrible, and no one would read it. I'm not a skilled artist, I can kinda doodle, but no one's going to be wowed by my work, I'm not going to be publishing an Electric State-esque artbook. Most people can't. Most people can't make a short film, or a song (Music is another example of the barrier to entry being super-low, and that's what makes music so special)

But I CAN write an RPG adventure that will provide me and four to six other human beings with four to six hours of quality time, where we socialize, navigate game mechanics, improvise, and collaborate on the story's outcome. And with some extra polish, that adventure can be published as some sort of indie zine.

So the idea of anyone trying to control what kind of pretend-elf-game I run is galling to me. I want people to engage with my work and understand it, not scan it for superficial violations of their ideology and try to shame me into changing it. Especially when that person isn't creative themselves, and doesn't appreciate or understand the genre. But apparently if I feature Orcs as antagonists, that makes me racist, because orcs are black(?). This isn't just a demand on big publishers (which is still plenty galling), it's a demand on how I write, and it's also a when-did-you-stop-beating-your-wife accusation. I'm not asian, so I better not feature any asian-inspired cultures in my game, and especially not speak as an asian-coded NPC, because that's basically yellow-face. But I'm also a bad person for only featuring european-coded cultures, so I should apparently, what, abdicate DMing in favor of someone more diverse? Fuck off.

>>97603191
Yes, but he was good at doing interviews.

Mentioning I've listened to a podcast shouldn't get me un-personed.

>>97603216
>continued further
because of this low barrier to entry, there's also a very low barrier to entry for people to bully RPG creators and play their stupid spot-the-no-no-word games. See above with the chick who wanted more women in violent stories, but also doesn't want violence against women in stories. This is what being an abrasive opinionated jackass is FOR, it's being the kid who points out that the emperor is indeed wearing no clothes.

I was once homebrewing a hyperborean humans-only setting, but I wanted to add a few abhumans for extra color. One of the human sub-varieties were "skulks," humans evolved for living in the underdark who had their own distinct culture. They were meticulous spelunking geardos with albino skin and black eyes. Not new ideas, I was combining some stuff from Belgariad with Discworld dwarves. I was bouncing ideas around with a friend who had gone Orthodox Gay Black Communist, and mentioned "Eh, skulks are kinda like gingers, sometimes they pop up in regular human families due to recessive genes. And just like gingers, some people hate them for inexplicable reasons, other people are confused why anyone would care.

He got so fucking guilt-trip-y. "How can you insert racial prejudice into a fantasy setting and expect me, a Person of Color, to be okay with it?" I never bounced ideas off of him again, because I lost all respect for his opinion on anything. Fuck me for wanting my story to have conflict and to feature realistic human flaws like bigotry. How the fuck are you supposed to know the bad guys are bad if they're not racist? But he wasn't brainstorming with me, he was playing Spot-the-No-No-Word.

Fucker went on to abuse his girlfriend (as any good Male Feminist should) and collude with the landlords to steal the lease out from under his prole roommates (as any good Communist should).

>>97603191
Well, nice to see you conceded all his other points.

>>97603130
>We talk about games of make believe with complex rules here.
We really don't, it's mostly skub these days. Compare with 2018 when there were practically no secondaries and literally no tourists.
>>97603132
>post 2016
2014. 2016 was Revenge of the Chuds.

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This is as pointless a thread to complain about something no one but me cares about
>5.5e
>Paladin section
>Half-Orc Female
>Old Asian Woman
>Old White Woman
>Tiefling (Black) Male
>Human black male
>Dragonbord male
Like come on. We all know who picks Paladin. There isn't even an ambiguous character, they're all helmet-less.

This story isn't from a group I was in, but from the group a partner (bio f) of mine in college - which was a while ago, I can only imagine how it is now - was DMing for. Technically I did play in it for one session, but that was before any of this.

One member of the group "came out" as trans (mtf). Okay, fine, whatever. They were playing some sort of sailing/pirate game, I'm not sure of the details, where they went to different islands. On one of the islands my partner put a brothel. Trans person starts attacking her for putting a brothel because that was "sexist", and I'm not sure what else happened there but the group fell apart not too long after that so I think it was a bit more than that.

Pay attention to the genders of the people involved.

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>>97603345
Dragonborn paladins are kinda cool honestly. Don't let scalies ruin dragonborn.

>>97603295
>>97603216
What's even funnier is how all these people will go on to fellatio Lord of the Rings. A setting which is rampant with racism and bigotry. Its a common plot point over and over and over again.

>>97603379
>Pay attention to the genders of the people involved.
Wow, women were the heroes of the story along. It's not like they enabled this shit for a decade on Tumblr or anything.
>Okay, fine, whatever.
No.

>>97603379
>>97603398
Turns out, not all women are joyless wokescolds.

>>97603398
>It's not like they enabled this shit for a decade on Tumblr or anything.
Most women don't like trans.

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>>97603393
Its fine, but this is the dead last page.

>>97603398
>all women are responsible for the actions of some women
So just to be clear you are shouldering the sins of Jeffrey Epstien et. al?

>>97603408
#notallwomen
I will be bitter as fuck about suddenly pretending that the gender wars didn't happen now that the pendulum is swinging back.
>>97603420
I'm obviously not responsible for him but have there not been plenty
>it's about when men get power
headlines?

>>97603398
>>97603408
I meant more along the lines of "guy transitions and thinks that gives him the right to attack a woman for 'misogyny', because he's 'female' now".

>>97603393
Dragonborn were kind of cool in 3.5 when they were an optional race no one really used, but had a unique mechanic. In 5e, they made them core to appeal to 10 year olds who like dragons, just like they made tieflings and warlocks core to appeal to edgy 14 year olds and people who are 14 years old in mental development.

>>97603426
There's a lot of dumb headlines about all sorts of things. Most sorts of things, really.

>>97598148
Didn't watch
What's wrong with session zero?
I use them to make sure everyone's done their characters and to get everyone on the same page as to what kind of campaign it is, and what "power level" it's at, to set expectations and to explain that NO we're not doing cowboy RP so don't buy a lasso or purchase horse riding with your XP and YES swimming/driving/whatever is a required skill for the region your characters are in and the GM will kill off or make fun of characters without it

>>97603437
>but had a unique mechanic.
The homogenization of races is a feature of tabletop and video games I will never understand. Especially in a game like DnD, where the GM can do a thousand things to limit or control any races abilities if they're too much.

>>97603413

Whether they like them is a different question to whether they are enabling them. Women hate each other and still enable each other. Women for some reason just can't help themselves from helping people they despise.

>>97599122
/pol/ didn't care for Trench Crusade, especially after the creators became ban happy, so the only people holding the resin models as they cracked and leaked all over them were not /pol/

>>97598130
lol how did /tg/ become a culture warrior board.
sad

>>97602775
>"Christian" this or "white people food" that

>have white friend who says this
>favourite comedians are jewish (he's quoting their jokes and thinks they're white and therefore self-deprecating)
>dresses like a queer
>whole family, back several generations, is actually from another white country
>got the "You're not from around here, are you?" treatment from some oik
>had to comfort him and avoid mentioning:
>>you actually are an immigrant
>>you don't like the flag
>>you tell everyone you're a fag, and proud
>>this is a part of the culture you've made your identity, to be counter-culture, to disagree, to self report, to get called out
>>your culture was actually created by outsiders, you are what you eat, you can control what you eat
>>consequences
>>actions

>>97603112
You should just accuse anon of creative writing rather than sperg out yourself

>>97603419
>black dragonborn

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>>97599122
No. And it's not because they're political, it's because they almost deliberately set themselves up to fail each time.

There's nothing wrong with being interested in politics. My whole family is into it. My brother was Treasurer for the national MUN for like, eight years and met his now-wife there.

You can be into politics, and be a decent human being. Because to an extent it's very compelling, very engaging, and can actually be pretty fun trying to figure out a functionally impossible task of keeping everyone's needs and whims sated. It can be bloody brutal, and extremely complex and challenging, but also very rewarding.

But /pol/fags are the neckbeards of the politically inclined sphere. I cannot stress this enough.
The only difference is a neckbeard at some level knows shame for its existence, whereas a /pol/fag revels in confronting decent people with it's own, treating their appalled, concerned expressions as proof of its strength.

And as they are neckbeards, they do not have a clue about normal social dynamics or human behavior. They don't know what's normal, or what's clearly fake. They get ideas about how things 'should be' which are inevitably meme takes most people laugh at.
These are, invariably, things that give them some sense of strength or notoriety. A nazi talks about how based and strong and trad he is for not being a pussy, while a tankie talks about how much power we all would have if capitalists weren't stealing it, while a woman gets thousands of views for showing her tits and talking about how she 'believes all women are property'.
They go so obsessively hard into this, for attention or faux-strength, that it becomes genuine delusion.
They self-hypnotize. They want to believe it, their superego tells them it's righteous, their ego doesn't check their belief, and their id tells them it's necessary for their survival (mental wellbeing).

>>97603833

And they don't give a single shit about basic human decency if you're not supporting their delusion because if they recognize the bars of the cage they made it'll break them.


But this is why /pol/fags never 'win' things. Because to be special, to be exceptional or interesting or strong, their message has to be loud and startling and dramatic and NOT based in anything actually scary.

Climate change? Actual pedophile rings? Considered opinions? Too reasonable, too boring, and too much of a reminder of how weak they are to affect their world's wrongs.
But trannies? Singular ordinary people playing Tiefling warlocks? Tau players? They're a far less scary and confrontational enemy because they can be hated without changing ones lifestyle, or putting oneself at genuine risk like you would telling a billionaire "I know you fuck 6 year old girls and I'm going to tell everybody". They're an easy enemy, and one that can't/won't hurt them, or their constructed bubble of personal strength.

This, by nature, makes the /pol/fag's claims ridiculous to 90% of people. It may be formatted like a genuine point, and delivered with sincerity, but anyone with an eye for the subject, and who hasn't also hypnotized themselves into believing the same thing knows it's fucking ridiculous. It is a shock statement made by a deeply deluded person who doesn't know how things really work.

And that's why /pol/fags always lose. Because they set themselves up with unarguable angles based on ridiculous parody premises and willful misinterpretations, and deliver them in the most unpolitic of ways because that's how they think strong people do it (and to make the loss easier) because some part of them always knows they're being ridiculous.

Sometimes they 'claim' wins, where an event occurred that was vaguely leaning the direction of their narrative. But it's never actually their doing.


Apologies for rant post, but I believe it's important to recognize this fact about /pol/fags.

>>97603836

Look, I'm on the same page with /pol/fags being cringe and ineffectual, but

>ignore local problems, tackle enormous global scale problems like the elite pedophile ring

is the most retarded advice possible and the average person has so little ability to actually affect these enormous, systemic problemsthat even discussing it past "oh yeah, that's happening, shit sucks" is literally just virtue signalling and LARPing.

trying to deal with global scale problems without global scale resources and influence is just retarded. you might not like right wing poltards complaining about trannies, but they see trannies and the ideology that enables them as a local problem and they want local solutions.

>>97598148
> Session Zero as a formalized concept is a retarded idea codefied by theater kid redditors who hate actual organic development and roleplay.

There, I just summed up your AI slop video with one sentence.

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>>97603836
>Sometimes they 'claim' wins, where an event occurred that was vaguely leaning the direction of their narrative. But it's never actually their doing.
After the epstein files were released, nearly every single /pol/fag conspiracy has been proven to be true, ranging from actual no-bullshit blood libel to billionaire jews controlling the US political class via blackmail.

People will always forgive you for lying, but they will never forgive you for being right. Especially not people that have deluded themselves into thinking that morality and polite behavior are one and the same.

>>97603295
Fantasy racism is kind of boring if people really lean on it to make a setting feel serious, but the whole "spot the forbidden concept" game is insane and makes rpg.net unreadable because that's all they play there

>>97603833
>>97603836
That's a lot of words to not say anything. You could've just said
>/pol/ is gay, I disagree with them and think they're dumb
And it would've said the same thing. Any nuance you think you're adding isn't there. You wasted my time

>>97603972

>actual no-bullshit blood libel

I'd like to see a resource spelling this out. I believe it, but I want an actual reference.

I've run into the same sort of thing I see here in meatspace. People pretending to be 'moderates', when in reality they're disingenuous gaslighters. Had a conspiracy to eject my gm because he was obviously right leaning and injected that into a game according to them. It worked and the group fell apart.

It was because a desert tribe was obviously white and there were no black people. Maybe not 'accurate' by real world standards, but they were also not native to the area. A couple sentences of description led to an ugly showdown. Part of that was playing with people I didn't know well. Worse yet, they were coworkers so the whole thing was excruciatingly awkward.

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>>97603979
Go through the files and search for the phrase 'jerky'.

>>97603972
The real reveal was that /pol/ was the conspiracy all along.

>>97603836
>>97603972
"Of all the words of mouth and pen
None are sadder than these:
'/pol/ was right again'"

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>>97603836
>or putting oneself at genuine risk like you would telling a billionaire "I know you fuck 6 year old girls and I'm going to tell everybody".
Oh please.
Redditors have been screeching about the files 24/7 for months, but 90% of them would have scoffed and Pizzagate as a whackjob conspiracy because they didn't actually think the word was run by pedos until it was a popular thing to say. The left is full of drones who wouldn't dare step out of line and actually go against the grain. They aren't brave. They aren't counter-culture, they are whatever the internet hivemind is saying at the time and nothing else.

>>97604214
This is the newest of newfag takes. /pol/ was a long time coming with how /n/ was filled with people talking about the Jews and Hitler before the dates on the E files.

>>97599562
If you are dealing with new players and want to filter out the theater kids, a session zero can do that too. It’s basic gatekeeping for people who hate calling it that. Obviously, if you know who you’re playing with and what you’re playing, it’s unnecessary beyond a simple campaign pitch and the GM giving the character sheets a quick look before session one.

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>>97598404
>To the tiny degree that it's possible to get laid via tabletop RPGs, it's gonna happen via DMing
Make sure you rape her character so she really falls in love with you

>>97598448
You sound like a chill and reasonable dude, and I wish there were more people like you around.

>>97605166
In this specific context of a drop-in club, it's more about being seen DMing (successfully) on the regular, regardless of whether they're in your game or not. But whatever, assume the worst.

>>97603836
>>97603855
>>ignore local problems, tackle enormous global scale problems like the elite pedophile ring
>is the most retarded advice possible and the average person has so little ability to actually affect these enormous, systemic problemsthat even discussing it past "oh yeah, that's happening, shit sucks" is literally just virtue signalling and LARPing.

Hard agree. One of the reasons the world sucks so much is that people only care about grand causes and movements, things they can't actually do anything to change. Instead they throw money at grifters, wokescold (or rightwing equivalent) the people around them, while the local rec center gets foreclosed on.

>>97598130
Not my table, not my problem

>>97603979
Just trust me, bro.

>>97606812
>hundreds of emails about jerky
>staff don't know what the meat is made of, Epstein tell them to use freezer bags to transport it and not look inside
>Epstein becomes livid if he doesn't have access to jerky
>let's his personal chef have access to his kitchens at all hours of the day to make him jerky
>Epstein chef that cooked jerky for him worked at a restaurant called The Cannibal
>his staff emails him about 'walking the jerky' to him
>is flying his jerky to friends and cohorts all across the world, they regularly email him praising his jerky lunches
>first batches of email drops show pictures of meat in a kitchen, meat looks suspiciously similar to what you might see on the cross-section of a human x-ray (lumbar region)
>government scrubs emails containing those images from the epstein files

>>97607906
Man, I just wanted to hear other people's stories of that time they got wokescolded over their pretend-elf-game having the wrong color of elves in it.

>>97607906

Ok, so that proves cannibalism, but not quite blood libel yet.

>>97603833
>You can be into politics, and be a decent human being.
Either you are twice as self-defeating as they are, or you have a very warped view of decency.
>My whole family is into it.
Woah buddy! Multiple generations into it and everything's worse than ever. Are you suuuure you're not part of the problem? ;)

>>97608470
The entire story behind blood libel is that jews were sacrificing gentile kids and turning their flesh into foodstuffs.
Enter: Jeffrey Epstein.

>>97603772
Why would you avoid mentioning that? Are you a faggot?

Ho boy. I've had some stinkers:
>In High School, we had a guy who adopted a prison gay identity due to no girl wanting to fuck him. People knew he was full of shit and he'd have a complete meltdown over 'denying his sexuality.' Was briefly taken in by the popular kids out of pity, came back to the freaks after he tried molesting a girl at a party. He only showed attention to women, straighter than an arrow.
>In College, I had to deal with a commie who couldn't handle anything beyond the most generic pathfinder campaign imaginable. This guy would get super upset over the fantasy Nazis beating the Anarchist stand-ins despite their repeated failures as a party. "But the Nazis were incompetent!" He would cry after dragging his party into yet another TPK.
>In adulthood, it's been a menagerie of straight women who hate men, lesbian women who hate men, trannies who seem to hate everyone, and commies seeking an outlet for their failed ideology. Their campaigns generally suck and they focus more on storytelling than substance, like they're imitating Critical Roll.
Sucks. Conservative tables tend to be more isolated, tied to a friend group than the cringy public meeting games.

>>97598413
None of that shit has negatively impacted my life.
What has negatively impacted my life is having to endure you fucking faggots getting ragebaited over this shit.

>Those were all political actions done by terminally-online leftists.
Yeah and I don't hang out with people like that.

>You made games political. You wanted RPGs to reflect your values, and in doing so turned them into part of the culture war.
I didn't do shit, and none of the bullshit you just whined about effected me.

>>97608820
>Their campaigns generally suck and they focus more on storytelling than substance, like they're imitating Critical Roll.
Describe some of these campaigns, either it's a LARP or it'll be a good laugh (or if you're a talented writer potentially both)

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>>97608914
Fuck.
>Fucking Pathfinder campaign.
>I was a literal white human fighter with a party solely... Composed of Tieflings.
>And only tieflings: there was a straight manhating tiefling, a lesbian tiefling, and a nonbinary 'female' tiefling, a retarded dwarf, a crippled human rogue...
>And one obligatory Gnome that wooed women talking about Marxist theory, apparently.
>Campaign starts in a city whose name had two or three words roughly conjoined together and the party insists on a long and detailed introduction for all their characters.
>And the goddamn NPCs: the 'oppressed' tiefling minority (despite Golarion being the most diverse fucking setting ever) had twenty. Fucking. Seven named characters who, despite being 'sensitive' were blatant Mexican stereotypes but acted more Arab than anything else.
>Then there was the 'council' that ruled the fucking city: ran by straight white male out to oppress the heckin tieforinos for some apparent reason.
>And the obligatory LGBT good guy carnival faction.
>I tried to introduce the Dwarven bank I wrote up but it was hastily ignored.
>Straight white males were also the villains, the bandits, and apparently everyone evil was white to the point where I was growing very uncomfortable playing the game.
>And those were the 'important' characters, we had an absolute shitload of lesser NPCs that were around to fluff out the character's backstories... We haven't even gone to a fucking merchant yet.
Stick around for part 2. Where the cringe engorges.

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>>97608877

>What has negatively impacted my life is having to endure you fucking faggots getting ragebaited over this shit.

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>>97609238
>These characters ranged from cringe to being concerning.
>The straight manhating tiefling had a cabal of other man haters and very effeminate men, like a complete inverse of a misogynist man stuck in the 1950s. Men were to be seen and not heard in that nut's screwed up world.
>The lesbian tiefling had apparently slept with every woman across town, knew all the women, even the one I made up on the spot just to get back at me for something. Shit.
>The tranny was where things got creepy: this fucking tiefling was hanging out with the street urchins as a 'mentor', and these very young teenage girls so exquisitely described it got the point where I knew he was fantasizing about them.
>Keep in mind, these weren't 16-year-olds... They were thirteen-year-old thieves that this fucking tiefling was essentially using as a money generator like Fagin from Oliver Twist- only the tranny didn't see the fuckedness of the situation.
>Instead, the tranny saw using these kids and putting them in harms way as a 'good learning experience' while taking all their money and feeding them disgusting slop with the older children being used as 'spies' which, while the tranny never elaborated on, had some pretty dirty implications.
>The GM also made sure to make sure that every NPC in the entire fucking 70k person city knew how great a person the transling was. I hate him.
>The retarded dwarf was apparently a legendary dragon slayer or some shit. He hung out with the King of Stone Mountain or some shit despite being a level 2. He had a gaggle of NPCs following him around that literally just said how cool he was.
>The Crippled Rogue who we shall call 'Wheels' was an inventor's apprentice who made the mecha wheelchair.
>And there was me. The guy who was courting a local noble woman.
>Who cheated on my character with the lesbian.
>32 fucking minutes and we still haven't gone to a merchant.
Stay tuned for part 3!

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>>97609287
>The Commie Gnome who I despise was essentially a play on old school punk rock and was a legendary woman slayer with Marxist theory and shitty music lyrics despite literally having no money.
>He also knew the local resistance who were helping the increasingly unsympathetic and downright repulsive tieflings against the White Council.
>Then there were the supporters of the White Council who were all white people, and one black guy meant to be an Uncle Tom.
>42 fucking minutes. That's how long it took for my character to get some decent equipment. Thankfully, this portion was a breeze for me.
>The others though... Were buying so much shit, half the time just to make their characters look cooler.
>Fagin Transling, of course, chose the most ridiculously flamboyant getup as expected: lion furs and 1970s esque disco clothes.
>I was happy, I was going on a dungeon delve for the first time in years only to reveal we had to attend some fucking party ran by the White Council.
>Why? Because we had a contract and the tieflings were going to destroy them from within!
>The GM, who I suspect was the biggest creep in the room, started the ball/prom none of these fucks went to by introducing the four princesses who were, of course, the ones next in line for the throne despite the White Council ruling over Not!Baldur's Gate.
>These were essentially four generic characters: the smart pretty Princess the lesbo started lusting after, the loli princess who sounded like she didn't even know why she was there, the princess who was really hot and a massive bitch, and the religious strawberry blonde good girl that the party instantly hated because she sounded mormon.
>The eldest among these princesses was sixteen.
>Then dinner was announced in which the guests would all feast! I was eating a philly cheese steak at the time so I really felt like my character here: uncomfortable and disturbed.
>57 minutes and not a single combat encounter.
Part 4 will come.

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>>97609337
>And now... We have even more NPCs!
>God, all my character had was debt to a bank for manor repairs and a girlfriend, these guys had an entire fucking list of them.
>Then the bad guy took a seat, the crippled rogue immediately stiffened. If you've seen Critical Roll, you know what's coming- and yeah, I cringed instantly.
>The bad guy, to GM's credit, looked like the villain from the old House of Wax who definingly, had a Dracula vibe about him.
>Wheels left the room, as his player had to use the shitter, so the DM revealed the other 'big players' in the city.
>The Archbishop High Priest guy who ran the Girl's Religious School who, despite the other PCs hating him, seemed like a reasonable fellow. The PCs just had a hate boner towards religion.
>When the lesbo was rude and heckled the guy when he tried giving grace, the GM had a mysterious bemused smile- was he trolling?
>Then there was a fat white merchant whose only defining trait was using tieflings as slave labor for the never industry specified factory. He never appeared again.
>The Nobles who were all MAGA republicans save for one NPC that never showed up again that sounded like Baron fucking Ungern Sternberg. GM had that gleaming eye.
>Oh! And some carnival theater kid who gave out oh so hilarious jokes and had zany hijinks that were oh so funny while the Gnome spouted off about theory to the princesses.
>Only he critically failed the roll, bitched to the DM to reroll it, and still had a crit fail. Something that would keep happening.
Part 5 on the way. The GM was obviously on /tg/: he kept throwing in his fetishes and enjoyed rage baiting everyone. Including me.

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>>97598130
>There's always some thread(s) or other of low-effort culture war bait
>Storytime - Annoying Leftists Edition
Ahh yes. I'm sure this is a very sincere thread, with very well considered opinions being posted.

Have any of you ever outright said no tieflings allowed? In theory they should be ok to have in games but the reality is they're a red flag for annoying players so it could be a good filter.

I only played a game with a tiefling in it once but that campaign stopped after a couple sessions for mundane reasons and the person who had the tiefling wasn't obnoxious. This was decades ago though.

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>>97609379
>Wheels returns to the room after letting out some raging roaring diarrhea.
>Asks the party to go outside with him while the gnome fumes about his failed attempt to woo the princesses.
>Out on the balcony, it's revealed that Dracula killed Wheel's parents! He didn't cripple him though... Player even got pissed when Transling suggested that.
>Literal moment from Critical Roll. I cringed.
>So we go back for desert while my character uses social fu on the representatives from the Merchant guilds who were the only remotely sane people there.
>The others spent the whole-time pissing people off, singing terrible lyrics from a failed high school garage band, eating food and monologuing about male society, or trying to shack up with little girls.
>Except for the good Mormon Catholic School girl who was, other than Ungern, the only remotely likeable character in the whole thing. I guess everyone hating the poor thing made me like the character- and she was a cardboard cutout of a cardboard cutout!
>74 minutes passed before we finally had our first encounter: an assassination attempt on... The King? The head of the White Council? DM never specified how this society worked.
>Ninjas come out flying throwing shurikens and crap like it's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or a slightly less shitty Naruto Shippuden.
>Finally, some action!
>My character whips out his sword due to carrying his weapons at all times and immediately beats down Naruto.
>The rest of the party fails their initiative checks and bitches to the DM.
>DM allows them to reroll and they fail again, save for the Gnome. Complete bitch fest but the DM to his credit, upholds it.
Part 6 for the end of the FIRST session.

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>>97609405
>It's a bloodbath.
>The manhater gets gored with her health virtually gone after Sasuke and Sakura tag team her.
>Fagin gets his absolute shit kicked in due to Kakashi getting an insane train of crits that practically cripple the character.
>"WTF DM!" Transling snarls but the DM gently reminds our favorite caretaker of Orphans and fine associate of Mr. Epstein that they still have the other three.
>The Dorf gets bloodied but manages to go into a berserker rage.
>Wheels is fucking worthless and, hilariously, gets tipped over by a Ninja. Cowabunga bitch.
>Wheel's every attack misses save for one.
>Make a wish kid got a reality check.
>Then the bulky Lesbo enters the fray and it was made out to be this epic thing that would've turned the tide of the battle that would've saved the party from a TPK only... Well... She got ran a train on by Leonardo, Donatello, and Rafael with Michaelangelo scoring a overwatch hit.
>NPCs are getting slaughtered left and right: the merchants are all killed off with the gnome intentionally ignoring them, the smart princess gets decapitated by Leonardo on the FIRST TURN, the... King? Mayor? Gets a shuriken to the neck, courtesy of Master Splinter.
>It was turn one, and we already pretty much failed the quest. Womp, womp, womp.
>My character however, gets the attention of the strongest Ninja, this massive old fucking badass, who goes to town on my low-level character. The next five turns were me hearing Owl (father) while fighting this ancient meat mountain.
>I'm literally holding off a guy who can and will TPK the whole party if I go down.
I'm going to stretch it to turn 7.

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>I'm not going to lie; the next twenty turns were some of the most adrenaline-fueled pen and paper I've ever experienced.
>Every dodge and deflection was vital because Owl had some downright broken stats that pretty much gutted your character down to nothing. Every dexterity potion chugged down, every armor potion rotting my character's gut as I attacked for pitly little damage.
>It was an absolute blast, a frustrating one but every moment where I chugged down a health potion was vital.
>The rest of the party... Eh.
>The Gnome was the biggest liability I have ever seen. Communist Scanlan was the most inept character who was failing every roll and needed his ass to be saved by Sternberg who was noticeably weaker than the PCs.
>Dracula tore open Kakashi's gut on turn 14. Chad.
>The lesbian died on turn 7, got resurrected by the priest she hated, managed to split Splinter's head open before dying yet again. She was a decent meat shield but couldn't get a decent hit for the life of her.
>Manhater kept bitching to the DM to reroll, so her character was barely surviving the rasengan. Eventually Sasuke died on turn 17.
>One of Fagin's orphans died so Fagin tried to go on the warpath only to get swatted away by Rafael.
>The retarded Dorf, on the other hand, went to absolute town on the ninja turtles in between beating down the Lesbian. Killed Donatello.
>Wheels was on the ground, at the mercy of Michaelangelo who the DM kept alive by sheer fiat.
>Turn 20, the encounter went on long enough and the DM just had Owl and the Ninjas leave.
>They won after all: the King was dead, the merchants were dead, the good princess was dead, the archbishop was wounded, several noble houses lost their heads.
>Session ended with the players grumbling the Mormon girl was still alive. 94 minutes altogether.
That was the first session. In end, the city was left leaderless. We did it Reddit!

>>97609272
>NOOO YOU HAVE TO GET UPSET OVER MY IMAGINED SCENARIOS!

>>97598148
buy an ad faggot

>>97599539
The X card is just "hey i got arachnophobia can you not describe spiders in every single gratuidous detail?" but condensed into one thing that a person currently under phobia induced panic can quickly motion to without needing to formulate a whole sentence.

>>97602240
The adventurers uncover that there's a conspiracy conducted by an evil demon race masquerading as regular people, where they gain control over various kingdoms through usury schemes and controlling information. We could center on one kingdom where orcs have been allowed to "immigrate" and the magistrates do nothing about the local elf and human girls being raped, eventually the players have to remove the corrupt dynasty and council and restore a true and righteous king to the throne.

>>97609992
You telling me to not be an asshole is political and leftist!

>>97609453
All's well that ends well.

>>97598238
In a way, I suppose. Except that the direction is reversed. And I've been on 4chan since before this board existed and I have never, not once ever, seen the type of thread the OP insists is so common. Not even once. I have, however, seen lots and lots of /pol/ propaganda being posted while tee hee~ pretending to be oh-so-innocently enthused about specifically white male bodybuilder fighters and oh ho ho~ which race is your favorite? et cetera, et cetera.

It's such a tediously transparent ploy, and I'm just so tired of it. It's fucking boring, and it pushes real content off the bottom constantly.

>>97609992
If a player is so incapacitated by some bullshit "phobia" they have that they can't meaningfully participate in a game, then they need to not apply. I have waiting lists fifty people long. There's literally dozens of people who would love to have that chair. Go to fucking therapy or pay me $100/hr for my exposure therapy expertise. This is literally how your therapist would tell you to fucking deal with your phobia is by roleplaying about spiders with harmless words.
Nevermind just for the moment that I do charge by the hour to GM games, I'm just saying that there is a professional psychiatric therapy surcharge.

>>97609992
This seems like an issue that would be better resolved by telling the GM before you start playing that you have an issue. That way, the GM can decide if he wants to amend the story he wants to tell, or if you would not be a fit for the table.

>>97609992
>>97611106
I get the idea behind it for actual extreme stuff like getting raped or beaten as a child. You never actually know when your joke about drunk carriage driving will make someone relive their parents getting T-boned.

However in typical leftist fashion, they took it and applied to it to "literally anything that makes me uncomfortable" like fantasy racism or police forces being shown in a positive light, so now >>97610091

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>>97611308
Things like X-cards are important if you're having kinky S&M sex, they;re similar to a safeword.

Likewise, wearing a helmet while on a motorcycle is probably a good idea. Or on a bike, especially if you're doing serious road biking all the time.

But if you're insisting on putting your helmet on before going for a walk outside, and shaming everyone else for not doing likewise, then you're either Retarded in the medical sense, or retarded in the Leftist sense.

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>>97610967
I still laugh about it. Here we have these snowflakes that are supposed to be mega badass and they completely blow the first mission and get everybody killed. The second session wasn't quite as bad because...
>The Commie Gnome was so mad at the DM he didn't show up for round 2.
>Instead, we had a guy using a custom class designed to entrap enemies by folding them into a single zone using barriers. Like a taco. And that's what his name will be: Taco.
>Anyway, Taco was a pretty chill dude due to being stoned the entire game. His human Taco was good for singular encounters but hopeless in the face of crowd control or encounters involving a monstrous opponent.
>This time, the DM wisely decided to forgo the many NPC introductions and just had us raiding the sewers in search of the Ninjas. When I made fun of TNMT I wasn't just being a shitposter here, these guys were literally hiding out in the City's disturbingly modern sewage system.
>The sewer had some rats, giant rats, gelatinous cubes, and apparently a low-level Bile Demon in a random encounter. I like to think Tiefling rapefugee food gave everyone raging roaring diarrhea and made the underworks of the city a Chernobyl styled Exclusion zone.
>Manhater then derailed the whole questline due to the White Council trying to get rid of the Resistance. And they also banned gay marriage in the wake of the dead... King? Mayor? CEO? Whoever ran this trainwreck of a disgusting city?
>So instead of attacking the Ninjas who killed the king and have a link to the actual villain, we decided to randomly attack city guards bravely patrolling this disgusting place of filth.
>Taco and I just go along with it, partly because we wanted to see how badly the campaign would go.
Part 2 will come brothers.

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>>97611531
>These guards didn't last long. Mostly due to everyone really focusing on their crits. Even I did, having learned from Owl and the Iron Code getting beaten into my character's head.
>We attack a Guard base due to the resistance needing the sewer system to travel around the city. While we're at it, we get some more dialogue over why Manhater hates the patriarchy. It's a cringe monologue that has more flowery words than Frakenstein and blames all men for the state of the world or some shit.
>Guards have a single wizard that uses slippery ice which makes the whole party start sliding around the combat arena like retards which pisses off Manhater to no end.
>Wheels throws a fire bomb which manages to damage some of the guards despite having shields. I couldn't tell if DM was being lenient or if the guards were laughing so hard in universe they forgot to raise their shields.
>What followed was ten minutes of pure chaos with the guards, the party, and a random encounter bile creature sliding on the ice while getting pelted with bolts by the crossbowmen. Except for the guard wizard who was knocked unconscious by lesbian throwing a stone out of desperation. DM, seeing a TPK, let it slide. My character was essentially sliding around, whacking at guards- hoping to Christ Almighty my dexterity was high enough to actually hit them.
>Got a few jabs in, not bad. But the real big Dog was Taco. His class was flawed, but he was the only one who made it to the other side, and began to go to town on the archers. His class essentially 'ate' the enemies by trapping them and 'chewing' the poor guards with knives who would then bleed to death as they were slowly eaten to death hence pic related.
>Not gonna lie, Taco was pretty metal when you watched this character in action.
>Anyway, this encounter pretty much ended after Taco devoured the wizard who was throwing fireballs all over, trying to kill the abomination we call Taco.
Part 3 incoming.

>>97611526
That's enough shitposting, Brad Stine.

>>97611308
Nice job proving >>97610091 right.

>>97611683
>Taco ate the wizard, the ice was melted due to a stray fireball, and we tore the remaining guards apart. Despite being the good guys, between the OGs essentially being domestic terrorists and Taco a literal nightmare from beyond the void, I was really starting to wonder if we were actually doing anything that helped. And we were all on fire now and jumped into the disgusting tiefling dropping tainted sewer water.
>My poor character, my poor character, he just wanted his manor repaired dammit.
>After surveying the burned remains of the guard post, we decided to go further on where we found a tunnel that led somewhere deeper. DM pipes in, "but then your party remembers that you have to find the lord's assassins." Transling sticks his tongue at the DM and goes in anyway, followed by the others.
>"There's more booty there." Fagin said to the Dorf while the GM gave one of those smiles. I knew it was either because he was going to introduce one of his many borderline illegal fetishes, or he had something in mind for us.
>"I have a bad feeling about this," my character muttered as we entered the catacombs that underlined the city.
>I'm not going to lie, but having Parisian styled catacombs was a pretty good idea. We spent the best part of an hour fighting more undead with the DM revealing that the catacombs were cursed by a Necromantic King from time immemorial and we had to restore the seals that kept his rotting body entombed.
>Pretty fun game. We spent most of the time killing skeletons and zombos. The real challenge came in the final circle where we found the mummified chosen warriors of the Underking who guarded his chamber. And this nearly ended in a TPK.
>Why couldn't we have a zombie game where we fought the Underking instead of helping the Tiefling resistance fight the Dad Council? I don't get it.
Part 4 will come soon.

>>97603836
>And they don't give a single shit about basic human decency if you're not supporting their delusion because if they recognize the bars of the cage they made it'll break them.
haha yeah, can you imagine if there was an entire cult full of people like that trying to co-opt every online community they manage to sink their claws into

>>97611526
And like BDSM safewords, the moment an X-card gets used you stop entirely and assess if you can continue at all. Regardless of if you are going to try again, the fun is over for the day. If you can not continue the campaign without using that subject matter, that person can not play with you. X-cards are never a opportunity for back seat GMing, and the only reason they gained that reputation is because the GMs for most groups that would use X-cards are giant pussies.

Guarantee that no one will want to pull an X-card again after you stop the session and kick everyone out for the night because Susan doesn't like spiders unless they didn't care about the game to begin with, in which case, why are you playing with them?

>>97614113
This is something that people forget. BDSM is primarily one on one, where both parties are there for the mutual enjoyment of the other. But in a D&D campaign, we are trying to satisfy multiple people. If Timmy James think the spiders are cool, and Jenny doesn't, then that means Timmy and James never get to enjoy the spiders because Jenny can't handle them. The easiest solution is to make it clear what the game will be like ahead of time so that Jenny or the GM realize this isn't the game for her.

>>97598413
It's funny how they removed all the actual fight the power from 5E world of darkness and gentrified the werewolves that had any ethnicity
>UM CHUD WOD WAS ALLWAYS WOKE
Yeah but it made good points about our broken systems that need fixed and not just burnt down out of anger
>Sometimes destroying a factory leads more into the wyrms maw than if it was left alone
Now we have a black troon Werewolf who caused the biggest Indian chemical leak in history be a good guy because they protect the gays above everything
>Also does a 5th lv legendary right that's him fighting a bane he summoned
In comparison a 5th in old Wow was all tribes sacrificing there greatest heros to bind a God that would have consumed all of north America if not stopped

It's like if Pentex themselves wrote it
No moral arguments of
>Would you destroy a pentex lab funding the entire gay block of your city? Would you sacrifice your rainbow road community for Gia?
But nah we get a billion dollar corporations version of Fight the Power
WOD pointed out there own flaws but disagreement isn't allowed in modern leftists spaces
Vampire was Mob Game about predatory systems with vampire paint now it's not even for theater kids anymore, more like people in 400k homes that like the Punk Gothic esthetic but hate a Gothic Punk story
Overall bland and lifeless with it all being lip service that never speaks about actual issues that need to be addressed by people not a political party which old WOD did great at

>>97603972
>>97604323
The problem with this is that the schizo ramblings of decades have claimed literally everything. Some of it has to be true, no matter how outlandish, simply because conspiracy nuts have said nearly all possibilities of things. You only remember the times when these were correct and forget all the times when it doesn't line up, which is a known flaw of human pattern seeking behavior

>>97619219

Listen, you haven't read even a single lick of the material you're disparaging. There's an infinite world of difference in the rigor between tabloid "lizard people made the pyramids and the the true purpose of aglets is sinister" and the extensively and rigorously documented stuff about what the world elites have been doing from mainstream, publically available(For example, see literally anything about and from the Tavistock institute), published but boring as fuck and socially inconvenient sources. The main reason that normies didn't believe people citing these sources extensively about those sources then when they were talking about the exact same stuff the Epstein files are releasing, and adjascent topics, is because it's literally just socially inconvenient because the modern mainstream narrative is that those things just aren't happening and that you're weird if you think they are, even though it's all publically available information and is publically funded.

There's no shortage of "conspiracy nuts" that are only consider nuts because they're outside of the mainstream, and it's socially acceptable to disbelieve them without considering what they say or chasing down their sources. It's literally just a popularity contest. High school level bullshit.

>>97620578
This is also your confirmation bias. You remember the times when the truth did align with all of the weird theories and not when many people in the same spaces are confusing vapor for chemical attacks or, without a hint of irony, are declaring the world flat. That's the problem with taking it seriously until actual evidence from people who don't make insane claims exists. There isn't a layer of astute detectives onto the world truth in society, there's a bunch of schizophrenics endlessly drawing connections and eventually some of them will be right.
tl;dr you're a fucking news hipster.

>>97620654

Read what I actually wrote and respond to it directly instead of just sperging out, stamping your foot, and repeating yourself.

You're on an anonymous image board. You're not winning any social points for publically repeating what everyone else thinks is right. No-one knows who you are. You are in a ~+SAFE SPACE+~ where you can actually engage with perspectives that aren't the ones you're socially conditioned to brainlessly repeat.

>>97620683
The fact that you're trying to characterize me is having a fit, or trying to win some kind of social credit, kind of tells me that you're the one who doesn't really understand other people. You can't seem to understand why people are not going to trust your sources because they come from the land of crazy people who are wrong 999 million times out of a billion. It is the exact same behavior as stating that nobody understands how cool your underground grunge harp band is. I don't think you're crazy or even wrong about everything. I just think you're a hipster and what you're really interested in is believing something different than other people, and it's convenient that we literally have a million monkeys at typewriters constantly documenting their theories.

>>97599122
ACKS

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>running star wars game
>one player gets pissy when I do a Cato Nemoidian voice

>>97620751

>you're trying to characterise me [as] having a fit

The reason that I'm saying you're having a fit is because you're not engaging with any actual points I bring up, ad you just keep repeating your initial point of "Too many people writing too many different things and lots of them sound crazy :(". When people have fits, they just repeat themselves. You've made three posts already where you just repeated the exact same point, paraphrased every time. It's been addressed - and you've ignored that, in favour of repeating yourself. This is having a fit.

>or trying to win some kind of social credit

You capped off your post by saying that you don't think I care about the truth and just want to be a hipster, which has also just been repeated, and addressed, but I'll address it on this different angle. Who here fucking cares if you think I'm a hipster? Do you think I care that you think I'm a hipster? What are you trying to gain from calling me a hipster, and doubting that I care about what's actually true?

Because what you're saying isn't aimed at investigating or challenging what I believe to understand what I think, and isn't aimed at trying to convince me to think something different, and is ignoring what I bring up in response. The only possible explanation for this retardation is that you are stuck in "make the outsider look bad so that the inside group can feel like it's together" mode, because that's the only possible benefit from engaging with someone in this disingenuous and brainless fashion.

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>>97619219
>Some of it has to be true
The only ideas that are designated as “conspiracy theories” are the ones that are too close to the truth. If something wasn’t true, that idea wouldn’t be addressed or labeled as anything, it would just fade into obscurity.

>>97620974
My point hasn't changed, so naturally I am rephrasing it in an attempt to get you to understand it better. You haven't said anything that actually refutes it in any way, at least as far as I'm concerned. If you think I'm ignoring you or your points, I'm not. I've simply given them the amount of time and respect they deserve. Similarly I called you a hipster because that is my observation of you, you take a large amount of pride apparently in not being mainstream and have a chip on your shoulder a mile long about this in group/out group stuff. You got a victim complex dude.

>>97620991
Flat Earth.

>>97598130
>Have group consisting of a bunch of close friends.
>Be tired of being forever DM and want to play instead.
>We end up meeting this transgirl who's very into DnD and wants to DM.
>Get the impression she doesn't really have a lot of friends that aren't on discord, and probably for good reason.
>Pretty obviously autistic and can be very abrasive. Kind of person who makes up a lot of things.
>Think she lives in the US or some shit. She is the kind of person that's constantly talking about US politics.
>Every time she does, just say I'm not interested in politics because I could give less of a fuck about what happens in some other country.
>She keeps doing it anyway.
>We play. Game is pretty fun. Despite forcing politics into every conversation she doesn't force it into the game. There was like one time one of the players hit on an NPC and she rolled a dice and kinda just had them brush it off in a way that implied the NPC was probably a lesbian. So from a 1 to 10 on the woke scale this was a 0.
>Suddenly starts getting mad every time I say I'm not really interested in politics.
>Starts going on about not feeling safe around me.
>Block her number, stop doing sessions, group slowly drifts apart.
>Still don't understand why being disinterested in politics apparently made me unsafe to be around when I went out of my way to accept her when nobody else in meatspace would.

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>>97621021
A conspiracy so untrue that it's forbidden to believe it.
But perhaps the earth itself isn't flat like a disk. Maybe it's the act of questioning commonly held notions of cosmology which makes it forbidden.
A good conspiracy is like being a shown a picture of a camouflaged predator. You might not be able to see the predator clearly, but your intuition can sense when something is out of place.

>>97621148
Conspiracies are Faith experiences, not truth or logic. The Flat Earthers witnessed the sun circle them in Antarctica and most of them persisted despite it. The sooner you accept this, the sooner you realize why people don't take you seriously.

>>97621105
Is your country one of our vassal states perhaps? Could explain why some of you would be concerned about the goings on here.

>>97621170
How can you say you adhere to logic and truth if you're unwilling to question things?

>>97621207
Not what I said. But I said was conspiracies are Faith experiences, in that they don't depend on actual truth or reason. Much like a religion, the first mystery you accept makes the next an easier pill to swallow, and so on and so forth. In this way, people who believed that the Earth was flat could witness every piece of evidence to the contrary and still believe. A conspiracy is not based on evidence; it fills a need in your heart.

>>97621224

>A conspiracy is not based on evidence; it fills a need in your heart.

Which is why you believe in nothing that the Epstein files contain, because you're euphoric from being enlightened by your own intelligence? Come on.

>>97621172
No, we're england's vassal.
I have no idea, but it's a growing problem.

>>97598130
Everyone in the thread trying to pretend that this doesn't happen or is a good thing, is part of the problem. The people bitching about youtube are right though.

>>97621172
>>97621384
I think that some people just can't tell the difference between what they read on the internet and the world around them.
They read about cops oppressing blacks in north america, written as if the reader is north american, and they start reacting like our polite, professional, and well-trained police force has standards as low as US precincts (it's actually very difficult to become a cop here, know several people who were rejected based on personality/psychology tests) because they've believed what they've read without stopping to think if it even applies to them and the country they live in.
But then, this person would also go on about that 'you're fired' apprentice guy being the US president, so hell if I know.
A lot of people are just terminally online and have nothing better to take an interest in, I guess.

>>97621105
Yeah we have a lot of those here, determined to force everyone to pick a side because they've hyped themselves up into thinking they're Robin Hood, they assume if you don't choose a side, you're on the OTHER side and trying to hide it. The "not safe" thing is part of their psyop to paint their enemies as unstable monsters in order to make them feel ashamed.

>>97621407
>standards as low as US precincts
You do know police training in America is like a year and a half minimum, right? In some places it's well over two years.

>>97621426
I'm not really interested in american police or politics.

>>97621414
A person can't just not give a fuck about things that don't affect them?
I get enough stress giving a fuck about the people close to me, I've no interest in wasting time or energy caring about people in some other country who've got nothing to do with me.

>>97621470
>A person can't just not give a fuck about things that don't affect them?
We unfortunately have a lot of crazy people who think if you don't care, you're as bad as Them, because it means you don't care about the Horrible Injustices they're committing.

>>97621224
>But I said was conspiracies are Faith experiences, in that they don't depend on actual truth or reason.
Of course they do. They start with noticing things, coming up with a hypothesis, and then testing said hypothesis.
Saying 'this looks suspicious' and then following breadcrumbs is how most murders are proven.

>>97621491
Those injustices are inevitable. Caring about them doesn't change them, it just results in lip service, lies, and them either being more subtle or diversifying or changing their targets. The only thing that has ever changed anything meaningfully is violence, online slacktivism and 'caring' (arguing things pointlessly and making enemies of people who aren't responsible for those things) is a waste of everyone's time and energy that accomplishes nothing.

>>97621339
You're putting some words in my mouth to make believing in conspiracy theories that sound like it's something based in reasonable and rational thoughts when it's actually based on your emotional needs (the need to know the unknown, the need to have someone to blame, etc). That's why even when they are disproven, people will still believe in them. I'm also saying a broken clock is right twice a day, so I don't particularly care if some of the insane takes turned out to match what actually happened. I don't know how any of this is managing to bother you. Pretty sure this is the most lukewarm, non-committal thing I can say

>>97621497
Tell me how the hollow earth testing is working out

>>97621678
I would tell you, but the government shoots anybody that tries to go to Antarctica unsupervised.

>>97621660

>Pretty sure this is the most lukewarm, non-committal thing I can say

It's because you're emotionally projecting.

You think it's impossible for someone to believe that some conspiracy theories are true because they looked at the facts and they checked out. You think that 100% of the time, it's because someone has some emotional need to be validated. This isn't lukewarm, it's a hard commitment to believing that 100% of people who research conspiracy theories are emotionally invested in contrarianism. Are 0% of them motivated that way? No, some certainly are motivated by contrarianism. That's because someone people who believe what you believe, ie, majority mainstream views, do so because they're terrified of not fitting in and are conformists to fulfill the emotional need of fitting in. Are 100% of people who believe in mainstream views just emotionally scared sheep who want to feel like they fit in? No, because that's a retarded take. Are 100% of conspiracy theorists motivated by an emotional need to be contrarian and to know secret knowledge? You think so, which is not even remotely lukewarm, and is completely retarded.

>>97621844
Holy wall of text. The one emotionally projecting is you, brother. I'm sorry I indirectly insulted your intelligence by insinuating that you believe crazy things based primarily on your emotions, which is something you seem to be extremely insecure about. Next time I'll call you stupid directly.

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>>97621844
Nobody said you were emotionally invested in contrarianism. Nice Freudian slip.

>>97621996

Are you retarded?

>>97621660
>You're putting some words in my mouth to make believing in conspiracy theories that sound like it's something based in reasonable and rational thoughts when it's actually based on your emotional needs (the need to know the unknown, the need to have someone to blame, etc).
>when its actually based on your emotional needs

>>97620751

> I just think you're a hipster and what you're really interested in is believing something different than other people

>>97621170
>Conspiracies are Faith experiences, not truth or logic.
> A conspiracy is not based on evidence; it fills a need in your heart.

>>97622045
You got called a hipster and extrapolated that into an argument that wasn't made (everybody who believes in conspiracies is a contrarian) because you're a sensitive little bitch. Nobody who isn't already super defensive about this shit would do that. In other words, you know people already think you're just trying to be different and difficult and are mad nobody appreciates how "smart" you are

>>97598130
Relatively minor but still quite funny, our GM is an aging millennial who buys into a lot of the SJW stuff in a kind of passive way. Not obnoxious, but is pro a bunch of that stuff because he doesn't think that hard about it and it's the path of least resistance with some of his weirdo mates/family.

> Puts a they/them NPC in his game
> Is a bit of a boob so constantly trips himself up "So he goes, I mean she, I mean the- wait... *They* do... what were we doing again?"

Group is entirely 40-something gamers in a 90s sci-fi game that absolutely did not feature this kind of modern politics. Only the GMs brother is on board, everyone else plots to chuck this obnoxious woman out the nearest airlock.

The group chud and his wife speculated as to why the GM would make the only non binary NPC an unlikeable, obnoxious outcast.

Didn't wreck the group or anything, just a weird choice that someone would keep on tripping themselves up on their own NPC in a situation where nobody asked for it or would even have noticed if he didn't have anyone nonbinary in the game.

>>97611093
>It's such a tediously transparent ploy, and I'm just so tired of it. It's fucking boring, and it pushes real content off the bottom constantly.
There is no real content here. The /pol/tards got what they wanted: the destruction of /tg/. They waged a long, hard war this past decade, but it's time to admit it. The insurgents won and killed everything worthwhile about the board. All that's left are generals which are too opaque for their nogames asses to shit up.

>>97621105
Maybe they just had an unsafe experience with a so called "apolitical" person

>>97604362
Yeah, Pizzagate was a retarded conspiracy though. It was saying "John Podesta mentioned pizza, that's code for raping children." So of course they would say that.

>>97598413
>Those were all political actions done by terminally-online leftists.
>You made games political. You wanted RPGs to reflect your values, and in doing so turned them into part of the culture war.
>A pushback isn't only to be expected, it's the right course of action for all non-insane people.
Your "pushback" is confined to shitting up this board with worthless threads while completely failing to in any way produce any content that anybody would want to play.

Artists produce art that reflect their values. Basically all artists are libs, so almost all art is lib-coded. TTRPGs naturally supercharge the liberalism because a) there is no money in this industry, so it's all starving artists (lib++), and b) it's double-libbed since both system AND play are creative acts.

Maybe one day the paid GM industry will get big enough that its members will produce something to your taste, but right now, you will only ever keep losing for all time.

>>97611106
>If a player is so incapacitated by some bullshit "phobia" they have that they can't meaningfully participate in a game, then they need to not apply.
How would they know that their phobia will come up unless you do some "woke" thing, whether an x-card or a trigger warning?

Are people with phobias supposed to just never have fun because they can't tell anyone they are triggered by spiders in advance but ALSO can't tell anyone they're being triggered by spiders when it happens?

>This is literally how your therapist would tell you to fucking deal with your phobia is by roleplaying about spiders with harmless words.
Yeah. And you know what else they would do (wokely)? Tell you in advance.

>>97600167
>tfw you hate liberals so much you start jerking off monarchies
Anti-American. Go back to Europe.

>>97602047
>non-gamers who only wish to turn my fun into a platform for their ideologies.
/pol/tards?

Because the people who make tabletop games are ~all gamers.

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>>97603182
The problem is that hating gays isn't a popular position to hold. I know it's hard for you to understand since you're probably stuck in a bubble at your shitty church where everybody hates the gay, but it's just not popular. Your game would suffer PR damage if players knew you hated gay people, no need for Discord servers to be involved as middlemen.

>nyoo I don't hate gay people, I don't!!! I'm just not pro-LGBT!
Nobody else cares about whatever thin difference you think you're slicing here, they round you off to hating gays just like you'd round an antisemitic fascist off to a Nazi or an authoritarian socialist off to a communist no matter how much they squealed like a stuck piggy.

>>97602719
>There's no even playing field here, and the reason why is because certain kinds of things would always win. So those sorts of things have to be banned.
Since they would always win, go make them and win. It's a free country, nobody in government is going to stop you from making Chud Game.

>>97603546
DMs routinely ban even the hyper-homogenized races for being able to fly.

Weird content didn't get used very much so it was wasted dev time, wasted art, wasted page space. All the big TTRPG guys still around from back in the day publish almost nothing compared to their old turnout for a reason. No piles of GURPS, D&D, or World of Darkness books.

>>97622444
To be fair, there is a valid point in that if a particular subject is enough to drive someone to tears by the mere mention of it in a vacuum, that’s a genuinely serious issue that next to no DM is remotely equipped to deal with. But that’s generally not what people in this day and age mean when they say they have a phobia, they usually mean they have a personal dislike or disgust for a subject. Stuff like that should be discussed and addressed at the table before the game begins, I fully agree, but lumping the majority of phobias with actual PTSD makes everything worse for everyone since the majority of “triggers” in PTSD aren’t as straightforward as “someone mentioned cars are in my game and now I’m having a whole ass flashback to my parents murder”. Nearly any stimuli the brain has connected to the incident will do it, from the sound of traffic outside to a particular smell of smoke to even a weird shadow. A number of triggers are ordinary everyday shit people can attempt to minimize contact with, but can’t completely control. And if it’s at that level, then yeah. It’s safe to say most DMs are out of their league in properly preparing for since they’re only human and intervention from a therapist is far more likely to help.

But if it’s at the level of “oh my gosh I saw a plastic model of a spider and I got the jibblies ewwwww”, that’s not a trigger thing. That’s being a baby. And while I do think it’s fair if they ask in advance if it’s possible to keep certain subjects form coming up to make them feel more comfortable or to make things less gory/sexually charged since it’s the adult thing to do, I’m not treating that shit as on the same level as PTSD. I’m not a therapist, nor a mind reader, so if you’re having a massive panic attack at me just narrating that the spiders are coming, I’ll say with all due compassion “You really need to seek help for this problem of yours, bruh.”

>>97598130
the ones that killed most campaigns i played or DM'd in where always "rape is realistic" or some fucking chud that needs to play his mary sue wolfman with a 24 inch red rocket race but ragebaits when the DM describes a female combatant because it braks his immersion because women don't firght or some shit

>>97622458
Europe here. We don't want him. Keep your trash on your side of the pond.

>>97623838
You seem awfully fine with importing Muslims though.

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>>97609453
thanks for the storytime, anon. I hope it really happened

>>97622481

> round an antisemitic fascist off to a Nazi or an authoritarian socialist off to a communist

There's a world of difference between rounding off a specific political position into a similar broad political position, and rounding off a position on sexual ethics to mind-reading projection of what emotions they must hold. That would be like rounding off every person that believes in a separation of church and state to a church-burning black metal satanist. What a retarded state of affairs.

>>97622481
>nyoo I don't hate gay people, I don't!!! I'm just not pro-LGBT!
That's an incredibly common position amongst people that aren't retarded.
I'm a modest bi guy but the militant, uncompromising nature of the progressive movement injecting itself into my hobby space has turned me increasingly homophobic over the last seven years.

>>97609238
heh my current campaign is me, a human, and a kitsune, a vanara, a ratfolk and a kobold in pf1e. I call myself the zookeeper

>>97625180
either you're lying or you're reacting to unapologetic gay support with disgust. might want to interrogate why you're doing either of those things

>>97626348

>reality only ever neatly conforms to my narrow ideological categories, and it is impossible for there to be any problems with my in-group

congratulations, you're a nazi

>>97626518
That's not what nazi has ever meant, you cumguzzling nincompoop.

>>97625180
Sure, Jan.

>>97602857
>Literally no other reason.
Why would they need more than one reason? Like. Why would they need more than that reason?

>>97624263
You can tell that it all really happened exactly as he described because it's all quoted as green text.

>>97626632

They might want other reasons if their priority was to provide an inclusive, secular environment that can accommodate for all people who enjoy the games who live in our society, who have different perspectives, come from different walks of life, and come together despite their differences to enjoy playing some games. That way, only actually disruptive people who are unable to co-operate with each other despite their mutual differences would be rightfully booted and excised from the space. I think it's good when people have very different perspectives on things and are able to treat each other like well-adjusted adults.

But, if inclusiveness isn't actually their priority, and they want a strict monoculture where every person is exactly the same, and shares the same beliefs, then the only reason they would need is "You don't believe the same thing we believe, so get the fuck out."

However, and this is the ridiculous part, literal churches are more inclusive than these gaming spaces. Most churches welcome you to come and attend their services even if you're an atheist, even if you have no intention whatsoever of converting, and the entire dedicated purpose of a Church is literally to be a place where you re-enforce your mutual shared beliefs about your religion and form a community specifically about your shared religion.

I would understand it completely if I was attending, say, a tabletop gaming event at a gay nightclub, hosted by an LGBT activist group, and I said I didn't agree with gays and LGBT, and they told me to get out because I'm not welcome at their activist rally. That's completely fair, it's an event in their dedicated space, for their own subculture, for the people that agree with their political ideology.

But these are spaces and events that are ostensibly "for everyone", I don't expect such hyper-puritanical witch hunting & orthodoxy-enforcement in such a place, when literal churches are less strict.

>>97626696
>They might want other reasons if their priority was to provide an inclusive
You were intolerant, so you were removed.
https://conversational-leadership.net/tolerance-is-a-social-contract/
I won't bother reading whatever else you might have written after that point, there would be no point until you read the linked article and digest it. Which will take you years. Trust me. So you're done here. If you just shut up now and leave quietly and read the linked article, you can then pretend that you were just a young person who needed a parental figure to explain to you how to grow up. Because that's a normal situation that everyone was in at some point in their lives, so there wouldn't be any shame in it.

But of course I know you won't do the right thing.
Sadly for you, I won't see whatever else you shit from your mental mouthanus.

>>97626793

What part of this post do you think is an effective way to try and get me to change my views?

>>97626793

Karl Popper literally said about his paradox of tolerance:

"I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise"

He literally said that, unless the intolerant are unwilling to talk and are being militant and violent about their intolerance, you should not suppress the intolerant. Except you're advocating for the very suppression that Karl Popper said was incompatible with his concept of tolerance, you condescending pseudo-intellectual.

>>97626617
Agreed. If you simply declare yourself to not be a Nazi, it means that you have nothing in common with Nazis. It's as simple as that. If you reject the label, it's wrong. You don't need to think further about any similarities, it's solely decided by whether or not you like the label.

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>>97602857
Notice how he hasn't posted his game still in a thread, and presumably board of people who agree with him

Almost like he's making this shit up.

>>97627219
There's never a game.

>>97627288
I was unironically looking forward to seeing the game and judging it on its merits.
Oh well, it's true what they say: cons can't create, only pervert and destroy.

>>97627219

I wonder why someone would not want to post a game they made to people who are openly hostile to them, and are part of a group known to obsessively dox people they don't like and try to ruin their lives. May as well ask them to post their social security number and home address.

>>97627678
lol what a shit excuse

>>97627678
If he can't post it among like minded people who are all ambivalent on gay people then how's it ever gonna get any attention?

Sounds like cope to me.

>>97627678
Do you really think 5 troll reviews is going to tank your game if it ever had any real chance to begin with?

>>97627968
If someone brings up the 4chan posts he can just say "Oh I didnt make those, it's anonymous, it could be anyone pretending to me" and they can't prove it otherwise, either.

Only reason he hasn't posted it is because the game doesn't exist, and he's invented a fantasy to feel oppressed.

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>>97626348
>unapologetic gay support with disgust
They're not supporting me. They're using my sexual preference as a tool for branding and coercion.
I don't seek approval for my sexual attractions in hobby spaces. That's the incestuous product of parasocial retards collaborating with corporations to produce something that makes me incredibly uncomfortable, who then pretend like I'm a bad guy because I don't incorporate politics into my identity.

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>>97598303
Thanks for the story. I believe it.

>>97628014

>If someone brings up the 4chan posts he can just say "Oh I didnt make those, it's anonymous, it could be anyone pretending to me" and they can't prove it otherwise, either.

It might be difficult for you to wrap your head around, but there are some people in the world aren't liars, let alone practised liars who are comfortable with sitting in plausible deniability where they know other people know they're lying but there's no solid proof to get them.

Why would anyone want to prove anything to someone who is comfortable with just casually lying like that?

>>97599541
>They've got to start publishing some modules or something or the entire gaming culture will just be swept out from under them, assuming they ever led it at all
Been 14 years of them bitching about this shit and they gor nothing, tabletop or vidya. Maybe that will finally change with AIslop