If there is no player or GM to observe the paladin falling, did it ever happen?

Most paladins don't fall at all. They're all wearing anti-grav belts.

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I saw a paladin fall once but before he hit the ground two angels swooped in and caught him.

>>97619048
Correct

>>97618932
How is not the paladin a witness to himself?

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>>97618932
>the paladin goes deep into the forest to repeatedly yell the N-word but doesn't fall because nobody is there to witness it

>>97618932
Depends, did he have a napkin over his head to hide from the gods?

>>97620120
Why would a paladin fall for doing their holy duty?

>>97620234
Anon, it's not normal to scream slurs while taking care of a holy doody in the forest. Most people use a porcelain throne.

>>97618932
dumb aqua poster

>>97618932
What system?

>>97618932
How is there ever nothing aware in even a small area of a forest? There shitloads of bugs, birds, rodents, etc that will see it.

Bohr lost. Einstein won.
/thread

>>97621841
I thought Bohr won as per Bell’s theorem?

>>97621845
…No? That just refers to locality; there are things that move faster than light and indeed local relativity as we know it; the fabric of space time (the container that holds light and physics as we know it) is itself moving/expanding faster than light

Jesus Christ you people are demented; the very idea that everything is sourced to lolsorandom is indistinguishable from saying “there was nothing before God”, and this is why I find Bohr funny

The quantum is not the Root.

>>97621845
How do anti-determinists justify something coming from nothing, which is essentially what they believe when they support quantum uncertainty? It’s so silly.

>>97621840
Skyrim tier policing, being snitched on by wildlife

>>97621758
The digestive system.
>>97621879
Why would they need to justify that, when their worldview is anti-justification?

>>97621128
>porcelain
If your setting is pseudo-medieval you're not going to be using porcelain toilets. Slip-molded porcelain is a product of the industrial revolution, and in any case western porcelain manufacture in general only started after they were able to steal the secrets of manufacture from China, again during the early industrial revolution. Then you have the fact that flush toilet are dependent on P traps to block the sewer gas

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>>97623241
>>porcelain
Do you ever get the feeling that you take others too literally? Porcelain throne is a jocular idiomatic name for a toilet. Maybe that anon did literally mean a modern flush toilet made of porcelain, but since you're being literal where does that leave people who use stainless steel or solid gold or carved stone toilet bowls?

It's more likely that anon meant the characters are using something like a commode/commode chair and tossing the contents out the window or they have a small room with a holed seat that lets their stool and urine fall through a tunnel and out of the donjon wall.

>Slip-molded porcelain is a product of the industrial revolution
Industrial revolution started circa 1760, slip moulding porcelain was independently re-invented in England circa 1745. That's ignoring that it was developed no later than the Song dynasty and probably during the Tang.

>western porcelain manufacture in general only started after they were able to steal the secrets of manufacture from China
That depends upon how one interprets "in general". Meissen porcelain, which was hard paste like that from China, was made from 1708. François Xavier d’Entrecolles didn't discover the secrets in China until 1712.

>>97618932
IDK but I'm yoinking your Aqua

>>97625413
I learn such strange things in this place.

>>97623241
>and in any case western porcelain manufacture in general only started after they were able to steal the secrets of manufacture from China, again during the early industrial revolution
I can't think of any reason that couldn't have happened earlier. Or in a fantasy setting, any reason that porcelain could simply be invented somewhere other than Not-China.

Just because my world is pseudo-medieval doesn't mean I'm obliged to fill it with a load of gay little fantasy counterpart cultures like my name is James Workshop.

>>97625501
*couldn't simply be invented

>>97625464
I also yoinked to OPs Aqua

>>97618932

Useless goddess is useless

>>97618932
European paladin or African paladin?

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>>97625771
I love the fact that her INT cap was not a big enough nerf so she also has to be an alcoholic.

>>97618932
Good question. Do you need a witness for a paladin falling?

>>97625910
I should think so, to make it official like.

>>97625910

Like his god?

You can drink aqua's pee and it would be good for you.

I want to drink Aqua's piss.

>>97618932
Strictly yes. Quantum Physics solved the age old question by showing that events cannot happen without an observer but also showing that anything can be an observer. The paladin can see himself fall, the tree can see itself fall and a single particle can observe itself being in a specific place.

>>97618932
If you're immune to fall damage, did you actually fall?

>>97625806
No one expected that.

>>97625413
>literal where does that leave people who use stainless steel
I mean, nickel was not isolated as an element until 1751 so even using a loose definition of stainless steel, you're not gonna call it a porcelain throne because if you're shitting in stainless steel, your toilet was carved out of a meteor.

>>97618932
Anal with Aqua

>>97627012
That'd be one hell of a magic item

>>97621128
How you summon a porcelain throne to yell slurs and shit. You just shit and yell slurs

>>97627012
>nickel
>stainless steel

Stainless steel is an alloy of iron with chromium, not nickel. Nickel can be added to improve corrosion resistance, amongst other properties that make steels including stainless steel more useful, but it's the minimum about 10,5% chromium that is need to qualify a steel as a stainless steel.

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>>97618932
>>97627689

>>97619554
If he fell then he would bear falls witness.

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>>97632313
I lost.

>>97632313
Well, he's in the forest. What if a bear falls witness?

>>97618932
This joke kinda sucks, but the gods will know, because they're the ones who witnessed the event worth stripping the paladin's connections to the divine over. So it happened.

>>97618932
Lathander witnessed it dildo

>>97634994
Paladins getting their power from a god is only a thing in Forgotten Realms and 4e. Setting-neutral paladins get their powers from self-restraint and fall because they're ashamed of themselves for breaking their vows

>>97635684
I didn't realise that first edition Greyhawk was in Forgotten Realms or was 4e. Do tell us more.

>>97639346
Is that Greyhawk one-a, or Greyhawk two-a?

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>>97618932
Whenever I see Aqua in OP I automatically assume it’s going to be an awful low iq thread

>>97644196
Agreed
>t. OP

>>97618932
The witness is not an integral part of the accident event to happen, a witness is only an integral part of the follow-up transmission event to happen.