>>97627798
Who are you talking about? Is this staff user in the room with you right now?

Okay, okay, we get it. Your casting dime store firebolts and you want to be one of the big boys. In three or four levels, you’re gonna be slinging fireballs and insisting that a wand just doesn’t have the oomph necessary for real magic. Few more levels, you’ll be on an orb kick once you make it into the big leagues of scry and die rocket tag. By level 20 you’ll have probably figured out which one you personally like the best and tell everyone else they’re stupid for using a fetish or an amulet or whatever as their focus instead of being like you and using a power ring or some shit.
Now shut up and post your pointy hat.

>>97627798
>but the wand's superior precision
Anon you know the little swirly bit at the end of the staff is there to put spin on your projectiles, right? It's not just there to look all mystical.

>>97627798
How has this recently affected a play session of yours in a traditional game?

>>97627798
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>He’s still using a magic wand…

My young theoretician, I was using a staff when your “studies” were still being argued over ink-stained tables in drafty academies.
You cite research as though the battlefield were a laboratory.
Yes—a wand offers precision.
Yes—it is light, concealable, elegant.
And yes—it is the favoured instrument of duelists who believe magic is about speed.
But you misunderstand what a staff is.
First: You mistake channel capacity for brute output. A staff does not merely “channel more mana at a time.” It stabilizes flow, a wand is a needle, a staff is a spine.
When currents surge—when ley-lines twist, when wild mana bleeds from fractured wards—a wand user must throttle their casting to avoid backlash. A staff bearer does not. You see weight, I feel grounding.
Second: Precision is not the monopoly of the small. You speak of a wand’s fine control. Control is not in the stick: it is in the will.
A master can thread a dispel through a needle’s eye with an oaken haft twice your height. Meanwhile, I have seen “precise” wand-slingers blow out their own wards because their focus shook.
Third: Transport and concealment? If I must hide my implement, I have already failed in positioning. The staff is not a dueling sidearm, it is a declaration.
Finally: “Only useful for breaking barrier spells”. You reveal the narrowness of your curriculum. Barrier-breaking is the crudest application of massed channeling. A staff excels in: sustained ritual casting, area stabilization, counter-resonance against environmental flux, amplifying distributed enchantments, acting as a secondary anchor in multi-caster arrays, surviving physical interference (your wand snaps; mine parries). A wand strikes, a staff endures.

The wand is a scalpel. The staff is a pillar. Bring a staff and learn to deserve it.

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>>97627798
>whacks your shins
Try doing that with a wand, upstart!

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>>97627798
orbfag here

if you put an orb at the end of a wand you'll look like a retard which suits you just fine

>>97627798
What game?

>>97628191
>>97627985
These posters are trans

>>97628210
Aah nogames projection and tears. Sweet and salty.

My MU and Cleric have Orbs and my Illusionist a Gauntlet. It is about what you find nothing more.

>>97628210
It really says something that (you), OP, are still somehow more of a faggot than either of them.

>>97627798
>>97628177
Back to your containment thread, slop faggots.

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Staves? Wands? Orbs?
Why do you need those for? The average guard response time is under 4 minutes!

And don't get me started of those weirdos totting Warstaves around, you look like a bloody maniac!
You don't need that mate, you just don't!

>>97627798
>A master wizard has ventured to the marketplace, perusing the wares while searching for material components
>The merchant notices the concealed carry wand tucked away into the folds of his robe
>"Expecting trouble today, Archmagus?" the man asks curiously.
>"No sir," the wizard replies, "if I were, I'd have brought my magi staff."

>>97628186
Can you really call yourself an orbfag when you're ultimately using a staff though?

>>97627798
Swords are a better focus because they can be engineered for additional resonance and channeling accuracy.

>>97627798
I'm sorry, I'm tremendously sorry, I'm a pf2 wizard so I'm literally magically handicapped and need a staff permanently glued to my hand, like every single other spellcaster in my universe besides bards, be patient with us we haven't developed any alternative to the staff yet...

>>97628210
If by trans you mean "transformer" because >>97628191 is just a spambot that appears in every other thread on this board.

surprised it's gotten this far with no one mentioning building a fucking tower as your focus
or are all of you just like level three or something

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>>97627798
Bunch of god damned primitives in here

>>97627798
A wand is for directing, like a conductor's baton. You may draw with it, because it is pen-like. Their main uses are related to spirits, or are ceremonial. The wand is most suited to indoor use.

A staff, on the other hand, is a walking stick. It aids travel, and like a tree, it connects earth and sky. But overall, a staff is not ceremonial, like the wand. The staff is practical. Defensive, even. The staff is most suited to outdoor use.

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Lots of magiclets here today. Just cast that shit with your hands lmao

>>97631122
>"gun" focus
>look inside
>wand/staff/crystal focus + greebles
every time

>>97629641
Don't tell me you really think he's writing about the orbs on her staff or belt.

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>>97627798
>Staves and wands

What the fuck is this ren fair bullshit? We're professionals.

>needing foci to cast
shiggy diggy

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>>97627798
Okay, but consider that when we enter a dead magic zone, I have the reach advantage to better clobber you.

>>97627985
World building and rp are essential components of roleplaying games. Its time you accept that, because nobody is going to stop talking about these things on this board just because of your incessant assburger mentality that we may only discuss the narrowest definition of "games" as you prefer.

Also note that you may respond but I will not read your message.

>>97628273
slop comment

>>97631334
My magic can work with sticks and stones... but fancy-shmancy focuses do add an extra punch.

>>97627798
It doubles as a cane, respect the cane seniority.

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>>97628237
>>97628256

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Foci are for spell types/elements you don't have a natural affinity for. Otherwise, you should be able to use your own body as a catalyst.

>>97627798
>zoomers can't cast spells without a wand these days

>>97631298
>if you put an orb at the end of a wand you'll look like a retard which suits you just fine
why the fuck else would she mention putting an orb on the end of a wand retard?
Pondering a witch's orbs is based though yes.

The only foci I need is my beautiful wife

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>>97632391
>The only foci I need is my beautiful wife
You sick fuck.

>>97631522
Damn it really do be like that

>>97631522
Any reason in particular why the person with based counters is brown?

Do certain fantasy races lend themselves better to specific foci? My frogperson caster uses a staff because I think it fits him, but it got me wondering to whether a different focus would be better if he were a different race or even class.

>>97627985
It hasn't affected mine but it has immediately given me the idea for future sessions to frame staffs as more equivalent to heavy construction machinery compared to the wand's portable drill, or artillery pieces vs small arms. Although maybe rituals more fit that, and staffs should be more in the middle. Like a ritual is artillery, staff is an rpg, and a wand is a rifle.

>>97628162
This is fucking stupid. Try again, chatGPT.

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>>97632391
Wives come with orbs.

>>97635501
So do husbands.

>tfw the main spell casting enhancement/weapon in my setting is literally a sling to throw the physical components of the spell farther and harder
>yes that means mages are literally spell slingers.

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>>97627798
>Not just raw dogging your spells with your bare hands like a man
This is why every wizard these days is so frail

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>>97642488
>bare hands
>uses magic gloves

Bro really?

>>97642488
Yeah sorry man he has special gloves. The raw dogging magic guy had to sacrifice his arm to do it.

>>97627798
Warlock here, just marry your patron like I did, infinite spells whenever, all for the price of slowly losing my grammer, my english, and my mind, but I don't mind, what 4chan is this, the based one or the gay one that doesn't have a /rwg/. Anyways off to play some Warhammer 500Million.

>>97627798
I'd prefer something lighter myself, but my elven retreat has restricted the sale of wands to mystics over 210 years old because there were too many irresponsible apprentices. All I really have access to is the intertwined staff of polished ash and oak passed down from my ancestors. Honestly, it's overkill for most of the magecraft I do on a day-to-day basis, but it'll get the job done until I can procure something more subtle.

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>>97642723
>irresponsible apprentices
Have they ever met a responsible one? Or a responsible full-fledged wizard, for that matter.
>all the time in the world to learn the craft and make your own
>instead, he's bitching about being told no when asking for things
You have to be at least 100 years old to post here.

>>97642923
>He thinks the kind of nanny state that won't let someone old enough to be a human archmage own a wand would tolerate an unregistered homemade spellcasting implement
Let me guess, you're a sorcerer?

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>>97627798
>Not simply casting spells through your sheer devotion and faith

Seek virtue you heathens

>>97642384
Husbands also come with wands.

>>97642944
>living in a nanny state in the first place
City elves, everyone.

>>97643307
>wands
My condolences. Proper husbands come with RODS.

>>97635130
Elves with their natural dexterity makes them great for weaving magic with a wand, sadly tradition often makes them stick to staffs or arrogance makes them rely on just their hands.

>>97635037
crackers cannot be based

>>97643420
Whatever floats your guys' boats, hope you are Rod are very happy.

I come with Wanda. Don't tell my wife.

>>97643307
Sometimes. Mine came with a staff. It's a feat to use it with one hand.

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>>97627798
>The Archchancellor polished his staff as he walked along. It was a particularly good one, six feet long and quite magical. Not that he used magic very much. In his experience, anything that couldn’t be disposed of with a couple of whacks from six feet of oak was probably immune to magic as well.
You take the staff for the practicality of having a huge, reinforced length of wood on hand in case someone gets any fresh ideas.
It can also be used as a lever, a depth gauge, a handy way to bat something away or draw something closer, and also it's quite nice if you've been walking for a long while. A wand can't do half of those things

>>97627798
I hate that anything fun in this thread could just be AI now. If 4chan had an incentive system for posts we’d be fucked.

>>97647759
>lever
wand can
>depth gauge
wand can
>handy way to bat something away
wand can
>draw something closer
wand can

Might not be as big but it can do all four of those things.

>also it's quite nice if you've been walking for a long while.
Walking sticks are great for walking but they only improve walking efficiency when are light weight and they right size. A typical staff is too heavy and too large and actually makes walking less enjoyable as you get tired carrying it it along. A smaller lighter wand is much less burdensome.

>A wand can't do half of those things
A wand can do at least 4 out of 5 which is more than half. Possibly it can satisfy all 5 because after a long walk, a nice lie down with the right kind of magic wand can be quite enjoyable. If someone does get some fresh ideas that can add to the pleasure if you let him help out.

>>97627798
Get a load of this stuffy university kid here? He hasn't done any field magic. Open that 101 book you thought you were too advanced for your freshman year kid. This is the most basic shit.
>staffs for big high power magic control
>wands for complicated little spells
If you want to create a complex realistic illusion of a galloping horse to trick a dragon into chasing it, you use a wand. That shits detailed but low power.

If you want to blow a hole in the dragon you use a staff.

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>>97627798
I prefer Rods :)

>>97647815
Walking???? That's how we know you're a novice.

>>97648378
I was just trying to pass on my wisdom to the apprentice who himself suggested staves are good for after walking. I'm sure his master will beat him later.

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>Needing a physical implement or using your own hands.