>>97634267
>have you ever played as a woman character in ttrpgs?
Yes.
> why?
Variety.

>>97634267
Played as? Never.
Played with? Exclusively.
I like heroic female characters, ranging anywhere on the spectrum of cute to sexy, because I enjoy heroines who are beautiful in both body and spirit, and fantasy allows such heroines to exist.
In modern media, you tend to see women characters who are passable at best in appearance, and have snarky or plank-of-wood personalities and commit morally-grey to outright evil deeds. On the other side, there's plenty of media where the women are gorgeous, eye-candy, and fan-serving, but serve no purpose to the plot or get in the way, are a burden somehow, get kidnapped, or even "fridged".

I'm unsatisfied with how media portrays women characters, even in the supposedly fantastical genres, so I make my characters be how I want them to be.

I do not allow men to play women at my table. Keep that tranny shit out of our hobby. Thank God I play with my dad and brother so no one is tempted to include gay fagshit

>>97634316
>tranny obsessed
>has no friends so he has to play with his family
based

>>97634267
I prefer making female characters over male characters. I do it in vidya and the habit transitioned (pun not intended but welcomed) to TTRPGs.
I think the reason is somewhere between minor perversion and latent gender dysphoria.
I also find physically weaker characters having to finesse problems more interesting than powering through everything.

When the GM shows me a setting, it think of a character who has ties to that world and thus things to do in it, and then I think of a personality and skillset befitting a person who would do those things. Sometimes when envisioning this character they are a male, and sometimes they are a female, and sometimes theyre like a fucking robot or whatever.

I create characters as parts of the setting to play with, and do not associate my self-identity to them, so I don't need them to resemble me and often do not want them to. Imagine how boring fiction would be if all characters were only author self-inserts.

>>97634267
yes, of course
I do it to alleviate my dysphoria

>>97634267
>have you ever played as a woman character in ttrpgs?
Yes.
>why? (idk i wont judge)
Women can be good characters. I'm not an incel, I think women have stories worth telling. That said, I've only ever played as women in text-based roleplaying because it's too strange for me to actually, literally speak as a woman. I find it embarrassing the same way I would have thought it was embarrassing to play with dolls as a kid.

>>97634267

Why would I want to play with lower physical and mental attributes..?

On top of that my DM is retarded enough that he might try something weird like flirting with my PC, and I simply refuse to be a homosexual

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>>97634435
>Had to actively refuse homosexual thoughts instead of simply not having them

>>97634445
nta, but you sound like homosexual for not understanding why heterosexual men don't want other man flirting with them in a roleplaying game

>Pedoshit

>>97634316
I know this asshole is trolling but it does seem like something/tg/ feels strongly about.
It never made sense to me that playing as a wizard, elf, or even a lizard creature is fine but God forbid you play as the opposite gender. Why is that the line?

Why do you want to know?

>>97634267
Yes, a female bounty hunter named Vex.
>why
Flipped a coin. Game didn't last long.

>>97634267
>lesbian CHILD
I always found it most curious how the LGBT alphabet crusaders are totally okay with pedophilia and grooming, so long as it's gay pedophilia and grooming

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>>97634423
>women have stories worth telling
Statements like this trigger me so much.

What does that shit even mean? It’s always said be a feminist when they invade male spaces and ruin the fun.

>>97634536
>gays and women are as bizarre and inhuman as lizard creatures

>>97634267
once our whole group decided to play a genderbent party, it only lasted two sessions
a terrible mistake and we all felt terrible for the dm

Brancalonia has a race that's basically "lesser angel on vacation from Heaven" and they have racial penalties to perception. I thought it would be fun to play an airheaded religious girl on spring break. Was fun

Yes, but only if one campaign when group made characters that were then randomly shuffled to players. It was pretty fun.

>>97634587
Shut up and hide, Nazi pedo.

>>97634435
>Why would I want to play with lower physical and mental attributes..?
I doubt anyone is going to play as you, anon.

>>97634587
Source: retarded dick filled ass.

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>>97634267
Nah. I prefer knights.

>>97634368
>I also find physically weaker characters having to finesse problems more interesting
I agree but let's be honest, how many games actually do this?

>>97634576
It means exactly what it says. It's a very, very fucking clear statement.
The only reason you could possibly be confused is if you're a paranoid schizo and you can't even fathom that it's not a dog whistle out of one of your fantasies.

>>97634689
NTA but it means nothing, retard. No story is inherently "worth telling" just because some bint has a vagina.

>>97634665
None I know do it with gender, but I can use a Str as a dump stat and use gender as the explanation.

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>>97634573
They don't reproduce so procreation is done by grooming.
>>97634587
>a mesopotamian tribe pedophile cabal rules west for 70 years
>somehow mentally ill commies destroyed our world

>>97634522
>Attaching your ego to your character and assuming that the GM narrating is doing to same thing with NPCs
>Thinking that conversations or interactions between the character you are playing and characters the GM is playing are proxies for interactions with you.
Don't do that. Do you feel like you are physically under threat when an NPC takes a swing at your character? Do you feel offended when a villain hurts an insult at your character?
>"But it feels weird."
Engage in self-examination. It isn't any different than the other cases above.

>>97634786
Exactly.
No story is inherently more or less worth telling than any other, but you can do things with women that you can't do with men. So why the fuck shouldn't you, other than just being insecure about it?
I could say the same thing about playing as a dwarf, it's not "worth telling" just because they're short and hairy. Your logic is fucking retarded. You're grossed out by cooties, and that's the end of it.

>>97634804
More like you don't reproduce so you spend all your time acting like a retard on 4chan.

>>97634536
Playing as a wizard and elf is pretty gay, but playing as a lizard person is especially abhorrent and I hate playing with the kinda fag that wants to do it.

The reason playing as a woman is cringe is because it doesn't add anything to the experience, majority of losers who enjoy rpgs don't know how to behave as a woman so they are essentially roleplaying as trannies, ie. men masquerading as women for sexual fetishist reasons. Secondly and less importantly, it's completely immersion breaking to see a "woman" in a male role (adventurer, warrior, etc.)

>>97634267
My buddy wanted to run the iron kingdoms 5e splat. I know jack shit about that setting other than Khador is basically cossacks. So I made a babushka who carried around a bag of turnips to throw at people.

>>97634824
This.
The setting tends to react differently to men and women, which leads to different stories to tell.
Unless you think men and women are exactly the same?

>>97634824
Hello Anon, I'd be interested in hearing you explain to us the "things women can do that men can't." Unless your RPG is about domestic life or childrearing, I'm struggling to understand what you are getting at.

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>>97634267
I have
>Why?
Because I came upon with a concept for adventuring princess that I liked

>>97634835
Sounds like roleplaying for you is you rolling dice across your stupid face and yelling yahtzee,

>>97634866
>things women can do that men can't
Make my dick hard, for starters!

>>97634267
I enjoy hot warrior ladies.

>>97634866
That Anon made the common mistake of assuming that such things were relatively obvious and didn't need to be explained, but forgot that this board is full of autists that never interact with women, like trying to talk about solar power with a civilization of blind mole people that have only ever lived a mile underground.

>>97634824
Once again, I'm NTA and I have no problems with female PCs, I just fucking hate that turn of phrase because it's a meaningless shibboleth that's supposed to sound STUNNING AND BRAVE despite saying nothing at all and exists solely to cow one into compliance with faggy DEIslop by trying to imply you hate women if you object to it (oh look that's exactly what you're doing right now) up there with gay faggotry like "trans rights are human rights". It's a nonsemse shibboleth, a self-referential religious mantra. It's so meaningless you can put any other noun in there like mad libs
>children have stories worth telling
>geese have stories worth telling
>rocks have have stories worth telling
>piles of shit have stories worth telling
Even in your own defense of the phrase you're forced to explain WHY a woman's story might be worth telling, because lo and behold "x have stories worth telling" is a meaningless idpol meme.

>>97634874
Doubtful, faggotron

>>97634889
Rocks do have stories worth telling, it's called geology.

>>97634401
This thread was fully solved by this post two hours ago, why is it still going?

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>>97634790
GURPS has a textbox about it but doesn't force you to do anything

>>97634893
You could ask that of all of /tg/

>>97634874
>>97634879
These anons very succinctly summed up the reason why any grown "man" plays a female character. It has nothing to do with enhancing the game or story. It's jus yet another expression of autogynephilic fetishism

>>97634879
>im gay!
We know

>>97634901
This.
Autogynephilia is the most pathetic of all fetishes. It's the symptom of a man who is utterly incapable of sexual expression with a woman, so his solution is to take the physical embodiment of the woman. Thereby achieving the only state where a woman cannot reject him sexually, by he himself being the woman and thus can sexually enjoy his own reflection and body without refusal

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>>97634831
pedo detected.

>>97634918
Gee golly you sure know a lot about some obscure fetish you certainly don't have Anon

>>97634926
Good job finding yourself, retard

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>>97634936
Kys loser

I'm playing a woman in a duo campaign with my wife. Her character is male. Both of our characters' sexes fit with our character backstories and motivations, and we are also each playing a sidekick of our own sex. It's only a sexual thing if you make it one.

>>97635019
No u and your gay face.

>>97635027
This sounds like the most unpleasant experience imaginable. You should get your testosterone levels checked

>>97634267
>lesbian
>child
No such thing, groomer

>>97634267
>not warror lady

The anxiety of the people that draw shit like this that a single child may grow up closeted or repressed is bizarre.

>>97634536
About 15 years worth of propaganda intended to stoke divides in western democracies by hostile foreign governments and right wing extremists.

>>97634267
Yes
>Why
I wanted there to be a cute brown elf in the game and leveraged my player agency to make it happen

>>97634267
So, what was the original image before the pedos made it about themselves?

>>97634267
>have you ever played as a woman character in ttrpgs?
Yes, particularly when I was a teenager.
>why?
Most heterosexual, teenage boys spend a lotta time thinking about girls, during puberty. Specifically how to talk and treat them in order to earn their attention. It creates a warped impression that being a girl or woman = desirable attention. Pretty natural to wanna explore that, since it's hella on your mind as your hormones rage. Especially if you're willing to recognize that sexuality isn't binary. We all like positive attention and pretty much anything can give you a teenage boy a boner. Pretending to be a girl in a ttrpg is a pretty low-stakes way to explore it. It's cringe but honestly... most of your teenage behavior being driven by hormones is cringe.

>>97634267
>have you ever played as a woman character in ttrpgs?
Yeah, but rarely
why?
Just felt that female gender fits a bit better or feels cooler with the character concept I had in mind

But I usually stick to my own sex. Also, other players often have trouble remembering about it when the sex doesn't match up

>>97635353
Anon, what are you talking about? There aren't any career politicians or CEOs in that image.

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>>97635383
>make pedopost
>"erm, i'm not a politician so it doesn't count"

>>97635383
Yeah, there's an LGBTQ+, which have an even higher rate of that than CEOs or career politicians.

>>97635404
I don't think it's possible to get much higher than 100%

>>97635404
Source: retarded ass

>>97635413
>>97635414
Look politicians have a chance to be heterosexual so it tracks

>>97635429
It tracks that you have no proof of your stupid claim.

>>97635353
>Incapable of seeing past your own obsession w/ identity politics
That's enough computer time, anon. Go do some dishes or something.

>>97635413
>>97635414
My data is easily googleable, yours is sadly just queer tard rage.

>>97635438
Its already a statistically proven fact. Now stop trying to bait the jannies

>>97635466
You identity politics have nothing to do with /tg/ or ttrpgs. Take your self-absorbed bullshit to >>>/pol/

>>97635466
>>97635475
So you have no proof like you have no brains. Thanks retards.

>>97635502
Keep trying to go off topic because you want jannies to hop in and get rid of the chuds Im sure youll win the arguement. I dont need to prove a simple fact.

>>97635508
You made the retarded claim, retard. If it is such simple fact and not just you being simple in the head it should be easy to give proof.

>Buttblasted homo still trying

>>97635539
Or like... don't get baited by retarded /pol/sters spamming their neo-nazi bullshit in every thread on every board all the time?

>>97635554
Yes, you are still here.

>>97634267
In recognition of leading sexology research, my overtly gynocentric setting baiting it revolves around dominance and status preferences rather than primary sexual characteristics, such that it is actively taboo to be seen pursuing or taking any kind of following role of one of lesser wealth than yourself. Thus there are no distinct "lesbians", because it is simply not noteworthy for a woman's interest in another of greater status to extend to same-sex carnal matters.

>>97634573
It's hardly comprehensive, and largely fueled by a willful ignorance of how and when the preferences are set to posture greater legitimacy of sexual orientation as self-identification. I find it just as silly with the 7-9/10s who's cock is the carousel to be ridden hyping themselves up for "having game" or however they put it.

>>97634901
There's plenty of narrative considerations that choosing the opposite sex has meaningful impacts on worth exploring, just because you're too (anti-)coombrained to accept any of them outside the gutter doesn't dictate that's the limit of them.

>>97634918
To my understanding, it's more a slip-of-focus and curiosity thing, the former being that a staggering amount of porn has the female being ravished as the most empathizable thing by a large margin and the latter just a subset of general fantasizing of things not directly attainable, and thus there's a general pressure toward it.

For me personally, non-anthro MLP and Pokemon saw enough of my attention on outright inhuman anatomy from the get-go that I can easily get "on rails" for a monster doing the fucking out to very weird and outright abstract fetishes.

>>97635556
WHAT neo-nazi bullshit? There are other actually-conservative flavors of "right wing", anon!

>>97635561
>REEEEEE NO U

>>97635502
>provides no proof of own claims
>demands proof from others
lol
google is your friend

>>97635575
>"I'm right unless you prove a negative!"
Don't you have a special ed class to attend?

>>97635575
Maybe you should google burden of proof, retard.

>>97635568
Try posting that without cocks in your mouth.

>>97635603
Projecting your fetishes on others again? Really funny how a homo thinks about sucking cock spontaneously when mad.

>>97635609
Nope that just you looking at your retarded posts.

>>97635623
>REEEE NO U ACTUALLY
Lol

>>97635590
You made the initial claim, thus if you check google you will find that the burden of proof falls upon you.

>>97635633
You already said that, retard.

>>97635652
I did not make this >>97635404 post, retard.

>>97635657
Yeah and you already did the no u bit.

>>97635676
Yes, you acted like a retard.

>>97635692
Keep seething lol

>>97635699
You sure will while still giving zero proof of a retarded claim.

>>97635710
I dont need to prove a fact lol. Youre so mad.

>>97635714
You posted zero facts, retard. All your posts are just you acting like a moron.

>>97635722
I stated a fact that you dont like, stay mad

Girls, girls. You're both stupid.

>>97635727
You stated retardation and fail.

>>97635735
Stay mad loser, homos touch kids more.

>>97635740
You keep saying without any proof of anything other than you lack a brain.

>>97635751
Its a fact and youre mad about it.

>>97634536
Deeply repressed homosexuality

>>97635763
404 facts and brains not found in your posts.

>>97635774
Then youll post something that says the opposite right?

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I've played as a "female" warforged. Does that counts?

>>97635779
I will send gnomes to annoy you or something.

>>97634267
>transbian pedo fantasy

>>97634901
You'd have a point if beefcake didn't exist.

>>97634536
Because real life is full of examples for why men who pretend to be women are bad people.

>>97636297
>men
They might be "male", but they aren't men.

>>97636297
And even more examples of men pretending to be men who are bad people. Turns out people are kind of just awful all around.

>>97634536
It's just culture war shit
-4 STR used to be a meme, now people spout dumb shit like that in earnest

>>97634267
I played as my druid's wife for a one shot since it was a bit impromptu and the gm had some character sheets ready
turns out she was even more retarded than her husband

>>97636409
It used to be a meme because it's what every angsty 15 year-old boy who can't get laid naturally thinks of. Most of us grew out of it. Then this crop of dickheads built a political identity out of celebrating the dipshit urges of fifteen year-old boys as if they were signs of manliness instead of immaturity.

>>97634267
>Have you?
Yes.
>Why?
Realized last minute Drow were matriarchal, and didn't want to nerf my PC.
>Did it go well?
Three years of gaming and organic development to a full character arc.
Best damn character I've ever played. Makes an appearance sometimes as an NPC in some of my other DnD games.

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>>97634267
no such thing as a lesbian, all women are bisexual

>>97636849
Anon you need to be 18 to post here. Seriously, it's got a lot of content that's not appropriate for you.

>>97636606
>>97636858
Why do you use a site filled with people you clearly don't align with, faggot?

>>97636882
Why don't I need a hugbox echo-chamber? Because I'm not a giant pussy, you cowardly little bitch who has to convince himself that everyone on this site buys into his retarded cult of groupthink.

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>>97634267
Yes, because it fit the character concept and/or because I prefer drawing women.

I play a lot of DDA, and a lot of my characters are either a female tamer and digimon, or a male tamer and female digimon, such as picrel.

Friendly reminder that ywnbaw

>>97636939
Yeah, but I'm not my character. Learn to separate reality from fiction you schizo.

Only in solo games.
As far as why, I used dice rolls to create characters sometimes.
It really ain't that deep.

>>97636882
You may not know this but this site is not for retarded and underage people like you.

>>97634536
It's a legitimate red flag/pattern recognition.
Not everyone wants "progressive" politics at their table.
Stop playing dumb, you know fully why some people put their foot down about it.

>>97636970
>gay poster explains why they're afraid of roleplaying

most people here probably can't fucking see the apple, of course they struggle with the idea of roleplaying

>>97636970
Lol. It's called "Costly signaling." It's not a "red flag." It's a purity test for your identity politics. The last thing in the world you're doing is thinking for yourself. You're just reifying a litmus test for your in-group to avoid the threatening possibility of accidentally learning something new and win internet brownie points with your fellow neo-nazis by spewing garbage on the internet about games you don't play.

>>97636939
I understand that I will never be a wizard, the whole point of this is to indulge in a fantasy

>>97636970
>Not everyone wants "progressive" politics at their table.
I don't see how playing a character of the opposite gender is political. Unless you're delusional and you can't separate reality from fiction of course.

>>97637113
>accidentally learning something new
lmao

>>97637161
>the twinkie debate

>>97637224
But how would you feel if you didn't eat a twinkie?

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>>97637161
That's because you're not part of a cult. The people who are can't see past their identity politics.

>>97634267
I prefer looking at a hot chick over a dude for the 60+ hours I'm playing a game

>>97637113
>>97637033
>>97637161
You aren't fooling anyone.
Name calling, playing dumb, and shaming language don't work.

Some people just want to play games with people worthy of being friends with rather than make their lives about advancing a toxic political agenda.

>>97637246
I'm not trying to "fool" you, anon. I'm trying to teach something to anyone dumb enough to think your identity politics might have a shred of credibility. They don't and it's important to expose them.

>>97637237
You do understand we aren't talking about videogames right?

You would be looking at a character sheet or a grid map with tokens on it. Not the character's ass.

>>97637253
Only one pushing identity politics here is you, and no, you aren't trying to teach anything.
You are just a subversive troll.

>>97637271
>No you!
Lol. I haven't said shit about my politics except that people who think they can assume someone else's by a character build in a ttrpg are fucking retards. Because you fucking neo-nazi cultists are retards.

>>97637280
The thing is, you have said more than enough to show what your politics are and what you are up to.
Again, you are just a subversive troll.
Probably no games too.

>>97637256
are you suggesting that anon cannot imagine their character's ass and look at in their mind's eye?

>>97637306
Are you suggesting that anon is spending 60+ hours ogling imaginary ass while playing pen and paper games?

>>97637305
>you have said more than enough to show what your politics are
You're literally demonstrating exactly what I accused you of here: >>97637113

So I dunno what you're complaining about. You clearly agree 100% with my statement.

>>97637312
are you suggesting anon should spend 60+ hours ogling imaginary MAN ass while playing pen and paper games?

>>97637319
Bro what even is this conversation?

>>97637315
I thought this whole time you were just playing a fool, when it turns out you actually are one.

What you just wrote is stupid and you should feel bad for being stupid.

>>97637339
>Don't accuse me of inventing mindless purity tests that are about my identity politics!
>I can tell what your politics are because you don't pass my purity test!
lol anon there is a better way.

>>97637237
I know you're joking, but I used to actually believe this lie I told myself when I was younger. I still here other guys say it unironically and I laugh to myself because I know they're coping

>>97637246
If you think someone somewhere is playing a lady in a game of pretend is somehow a political agenda then you are far too stupid to play tabletop games.

>>97637364
Those of us who learned we're different prolly shouldn't be so quick to tell everyone else what they're really feeling.

>>97637364
>here not hear

minor typo, also just say that you like the sweaty ripped body of a strong man and enjoy looking at them for long periods of time

>>97637348
>>97637373

>more buzzwords
>more strawmen
>more bait
>more samefagging
For the third time
You are just a subversive troll and have nothing of value to say.
No one wants to play with you because you are a cunt.
Your obsession with gender politics, which you brought up all on your own, is a red flag that you are a cunt.

You are basically the perfect example of why such things are correctly seen as a red flag.
Because it exposes people exactly like you, who behave exactly like you do, and are up to no good.

It really is that simple.
The red flags don't lie.

>>97637443
Explain to me how it's a strawman, please.

I accused you of mindless identity politics. You claimed you know my politics because I don't agree with your assessment that a boy playing a girl character is about "progressive" politics.

Please anon. Explain to us what I've mischaracterized or strawmanned, here.

You're fulla shit.

>>97637443
so if you're running a game and you're the GM, and the players interact with a woman, do you just sit on your hands and tell them that you can't RP that interaction because its political and a red flag.

>>97637476
>replying to a post accusing you of strawmanning with a strawman
a bold tripling down

>>97637443
Yes, you let everyone know that you are too stupid to even understand anything about tabletop games.

>>97634267
Sure. It's just a role, and sometimes the character concepts that I come up with appeal to me more as being conveyed by women characters. I still greatly prefer to play as guys, and do it far more often, but I'll roll up a lady character from time to time.

>>97637488
whats with all the straw talk, you wanna suck on one?

>>97634267
How many times do you need to post this thread?

>>97636606
>most of us
Not nearly enough of us, honestly. The curse of anonymous discourse is that no one has to learn their fucking lesson when they spout off shit that's blatantly stupid. They can just crawl back into their shells and say the same shit again later, hoping it'll work better the next time.

>>97636882
>4chan is exactly the way I think it is, and people who think otherwise are wrong
Every time I see it, it's still funny.

>>97637476
He never played a tabletop game (DM or player) and never tried reading the rule books so the idea of female NPCs never crossed his mind. Or at least passes for a mind in that marble brain of his.

>>97636882
>Align
No one likes you, especially not here. Return to /pol/ where you're obsessive side-supporting is seen as anything other than childish and stupid.

Seriously don't you fucking tard never tire of having this same topc over and over again? What the fuck has been said in this thread that hasn't been said a thousand times before. You fucking pathetic troglodytes thank fuck you never play games.

>>97636939
Like how you will never be a human male fighter chad.

>>97637556
>troglodytes
you type like one btw

>>97637556
I suspect they're so desperate for attention they derive worth out of anything.
Even if it's scorn and disgust from everyone else, because that's still attention, and they can say 'everyone else is just mad'.

>>97637559
Of course I play as a Wizard usually.

>>97635328
Let's keep it going. Gotta counter centuries of jewry

>>97637224
I don't even fucking know what that means, go take your meds you faggot.

>>97637235
More like they can't see past the made up bullshit they've been fed by the epstein class.

>>97637246
Pot, kettle, black.

>>97637364
>>97637380
Why are your kind so quick to try to groom people into self mutilation and eventual suicide?

>>97637701
>I don't even fucking know what that means, go take your meds you faggot.
outsider detected, here to shill something.

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>Have you ever played as a woman
Yeah.

>Why?
Is "That's just how they form in my head when I think of them" an appropriate answer?
To me, personally, it's no more different than the ephemeral coin flip of the gender of a baby being born IRL. Sometimes my characters are male, sometimes they are female.
It can be influenced by the sources of what may inspire them, but ultimately the gender is pretty nebulous outside of aesthetics. Gender exclusive issues/motivations are so hilariously niche and specific that 99% of the time most normal people won't really touch upon them, like child-birth or similar.
Funny enough somebody once asked me how I write women so well and I just stared back like an autist and said "I dunno I just kinda write a neutral person, their gender isnt really ever a factor."

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I am a mature and intelligent adult who is also playing with other relatively mature adults without your usual spergazoid hangups so I can get away playing loose copies of my semi-obscure gacha girls and have fun
I don't do this all the time, it's 9:1 ratio male to female, but it definitely happens

>>97638050
>"Mature and intelligent adult"
>Plays gacha slop
Im sure the feds would love digging through your hard drive.

>>97638057
hi /v/

>>97634316
We get it you're gay, don't project that onto your group.

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>>97634536
>but it does seem like something/tg/ feels strongly about.
It's something election tourists feel strongly about
Let me give you a barebones rundown of two important aspect of the human psyche; Theory of the Mind and empathy
People's ability to understand eachother exists on a spectrum. The lower end being people who cannot properly comprehend the fact that other people have thoughts, and the higher end being people who understand other's thoughts extensively and can accurately judge people to the point where they are astoundingly accepting of even the people on the lower end (though choosing not to associate with them)

This is heavily informed by intelligence and the ability to think critically as well as the ability to do it often and reflexively.

The people on the lower end (those who lack understanding of the mind and therefore have low empathy) have an incredibly hard time roleplaying. They cannot see themselves as anyone else other than themselves. They are the people that abhor the idea of playing as a woman of you are a man. They cannot understand that the character they create is not them, it a fictional construct created by their thoughts. It does not exist. And it does not have to be exactly you (or an idealized version of you). But they don't get this. Thus, they equate playing the opposite gender character with transgender ideology because that's the only box they can easily shove that behavior into.

People with above-average understanding of the Theory of the Mind and know that a person is not solely their thoughts are the ones who are actually GOOD at roleplaying and don't throw a nuclear 'tism fit at the idea of playing something unusual. Therefore, they have no issue with a man playing a woman so long as they are not obviously being fucking weird and annoying about it.

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>>97634267
Have been playing one for the first time recently. Didn't make a difference save who I asked to waltz in one session. Turns out I play my characters completely sexless because it'd be weird to do otherwise around my friends.
>>97634872
Based, best of luck with the game Anon.
>>97635781
>picrel
>>97637233
Lol.
>>97637967
The enlightened "I just treat them like people." Godspeed Anon.

>>97638178
(Cont.)
With all that being said, the 2016 election and Corona bought an absolutely garganuan amount of people on the middle-lower end of this spectrum on to 4chan (thanks r/The_Donald) . As well as garbage like Critical Role and Stranger Things bringing more newfags into tabletop as well expecting it to be exactly the same as they saw on YouTube/Netflix. They don't roleplay, and if they do, they suck at it and they treat tabletop the same as a video game.

This is generally why you have people on /tg/ who are constantly throwing bitchfits about the way people play the game. They are generally people that lack the baseline level of empathy to be good at TTRPGs and only here because it's popular and they flock to popular things like flies to shit.

>>97634267

Yes, I do play waifus. I'm not ashamed of it.

>>97638178
>>97638202
>everyone who disagrees with my and my worldview is because le empathy buzzword
>because I have declared them automatically lesser than I will disregard all they say and just make up shit about them to dehumanize them
>I don't see any irony in this
>for I, the master of "empathy" has declared that no one has empathy unless they are exactly like me in ideology
>what the fuck are first principles or pattern recognition?

Is it weird to favour and play female characters, waifus in everything but name, but then never making any porn of it or even being uncomfortable about it?

>>97637921
Been here longer than you and contributed more to this board and this hobby than you ever have, nogames. I just don't care about inane retardation about godawful artificial snack cakes.

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>>97636906
Yeah you know what if puckee can spam their sloppa I can dump all the images of female PCs I have on hand since I've been on a kick of redrawing my past, present, and future player characters this last week or so. If you give a shit about traditional games I can shoot the shit about any of them, mainly the ones that I've played or are playing.

Some of you might recognize this one, I know one of you absolute freaks asked me to post feet or some shit when I posted older art of her.

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>>97638321
One of my current Player Character sets, another Digimon one.

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>>97638325
Another current one, she just had her tail cut off from a sneak attack during a tournament during today's session, but I'm too lazy to edit the art.

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>>97638330
This one's for an alternate timeline beast wars game that one of my friends has on the backburner for now but intends to run once one of our current games finishes up I think?

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>>97638335
Don't have art of the digimon (Mastemon was the mega, for DDA 1.2 or 1.3 where jogress was broken as hell) but this is the tamer for my second ever DDA character.

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>>97638342
Same guy who wants to run the Beast Wars game wants to run a Kamen Rider game at some point too. Character started life as a normal ass snake but the evil organization turned her into a kaijin. Her civilian form is that of the scientist that helped her escape. Also included is her base rider form.

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>>97638348
A Dark Fields Kitsune Shadow Sorcerer I made for a PF2e game one of my friends wants to run after their current Digimon game wraps up.

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>>97638353
Another friend of mine wants to run Dungeon of the Mad Mage when she's got the time, and I made a Tiefling Rogue/Fighter for that game when it happens. (By the way, if you're like "wow he's posting a lot of stuff from games that haven't started" that's because all my other PCs are male and aren't on topic for this thread)

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>>97638359
And last one that's technically thread-relevant, a character from a RWBY game that I was in that the GM wants to fire back up after like a 3 year hiatus sometime this year, though due to stuff that happened during the game I'll be playing a different character (a male one).

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>>97638330
I mean, there's lazy and there's LAZY. It's not even connected to anything else in the image.

it's all exceedingly cringe but it's still better than AIslop

>>97638373
It's midnight.

>>97638381
Yeah, yeah, you faggots think anyone having fun is cringe. Go back to /v/.

>>97638269
Are you trying to be funny or is your self awareness really and legitimately that low.
Regardless you are a clown.

>>97638248
>>because I have declared them automatically lesser
NTA but not everyone is created equal
There are retards who can barely function in society
There are good people who deserve the best
Most are in between
You just don't like the idea that you might be the first and not the other two so you lash out like a toddler that got told they have to drink water instead of juice.

>>97638404
Good job being able to identify basic differences in human beings. You prolly have an IQ at least in the low 60s. Now can you figure out why the society we want is the one in which we treat them as if they were equal, even when they're not?

>>97638402
You are incapable of responding to the actual content of my post so you make vague comments that could apply to literally anything
Your IQ is 2 digits.

>>97634267
Sometimes. Variety is the spice of life, and I'm secure in my masculinity/am not a turbo self-insert homosexual

>>97638402
>>97638248
PLUS TEN IZZAT SAAR GOOD MORNING

Yes, because the character concept just fit a woman better. It's fun to play ideas and concepts nothing like yourself sometimes.

>>97635404
>>97635413

You'd know about that, wouldn't you?

>>97634267
A few times.
I'm pretty decent at running with characters, so I tend to be the one who takes over for people that are missing, "play" our surplus or stock characters, ect.

>>97638417
>>97638439
It isn't really trolling if you are the one that gets butthurt.
You do understand that right?

>>97635438
>Demanding proof that faggots are pedos
Do you also go around demanding proof that the sky is blue or gravity exists? Come on bro

>>97634267
>have you ever played as a woman character in ttrpgs?
Yes

>why?
Because I wanted to.

>>97638302
You don't hqve to be an authoritarian bootlicker to hate commies, retarded commie.

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>>97636606
>>97637507
>>97637550
>>97637517
>>97636969
We both know what you look like irl
>anonymous discussion protects faggots
Yeah because you'd gett your ass kicked spouting off like you do irl.

No amount of raiding 4chan from your tranny discord will make 4chan accept trannies.

>>97637312
You aren't?

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>>97634267
Depends.
If it's more gritty, gameplay-oriented game? Yeah sure, why not?
If it's a shitty tavern simulator with a lot of theatrical acting? Ughh... nope. Tho I may imagine that playing some kind of elderly, absolutely unfuckable lady may be fun?
There's also certain Japanese ttrpgs that just don't have default male options. I like aesthetics of Nechronica and concept of playing a fucked-up zombie doll trying to not go insane in post-apo hell sounds kinda interesting but I actually had no chance to play it.

>>97638302
>Epstein class
I keep hearing Chinese Russian and Iranian shills say this. Is this the new angle?

>>97638353
SEXOOO

not super related but guys who focus on lesbians and yuri shit are hyper annoying. at least fujos/gayfags understand when they're being a pain.

>>97639073
Same demographic tends to become troon sex pests so that tracks.

>>97634267
>have you ever played as a woman character in ttrpgs?
Yes

>why?
Felt like it.

Also the /pol/tards posting here are brown and probably glow.

>>97639073
>at least fujos/gayfags understand when they're being a pain.
AHAHAHAHA
FFFFFFFFFFFUCKING retard who has never dealt with fujos detected. They've literally blackmailed studios for not making their gay ships canon you fucking mong.

>>97638985
I am mildly regretting opening this can of worms.

>>97639255
There are totally justifiable and innocent ways for that statement to be true.

Like have you ever been around a new/proud parent?

>>97639294
Parents think about their kid, thats the difference.

>>97639655
???
This is /tg/, lil fella

>>97638717
So still no proof or thoughts in your head.

>>97639660
feels very /pol/ in here though, I can understand the confusion.

>>97638983
We can tell you are too stupid to play tabletop games.

>>97639688
You say that about every opinion you diskike thobeight. It's lost all meaning, much like calling people nazi or incel

>>97638960
No one needed to hear about how you wanted to diddie Epstein

>>97638983
>Yeah because you'd gett your ass kicked spouting off like you do irl.

Holy projection batman.

>>97634267
>have you ever played as a woman character in ttrpgs?
About half of my characters are female.
>why? (idk i wont judge)
Variety and just whatever character art I'm taking inspiration from at the moment. Also I'm a GM, so it's inevitable anyway.

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>>97634267
Sure did. Mostly because GM kept hitting on my male characters.
That said, I genuinely can't think of many examples of "warrior lady and sidekick that views her with confused mixture of admiration and infatuation".
Maybe Xena the Warrior Princess and whatsherface?
Or Kuroko from Murcielago and the bunny mask kid?

>>97639012
I mean the entire character is a Shadow Sorcerer built around Frightened through Demoralize so good luck passing a Diplomacy check when you're penalized.