Cite at least 27 articles and books dated 2010 or earlier calling it "low status"

>>97639718
Kys, namefag.

>>97639718
Ask women.

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>>97639718
Variety of simultaneous factors.
>low material requirements, low barrier to entry cost wise
>based on pulp novels and shorts, similarly low entry costs wise
>american midwest flyover state lower middle class origin
>removed wargaming space and material focus, lowered barrier to entry
This is countered by contemporary slop production, more or less started by 2nd edition dnd splatbook production and dragonlance as content generation for sales, 80s cartoons and toys. Reading pulps was too hard, took too long, sell more plastic crap to poor kids, make more money. Marketing works and we've become disastrously good at it.
All that being said, having a hobby is about enjoyment with your fellow enthusiasts not how you present it socially to whatever panel of judgment your neurosis carry around in your head.

>>97639718
Do you have a peer-reviewed study to back that up?

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>>97639718
Also that's a different game in your OP you filthy tourist.

Is it? I don't think it is. It's a middle class hobby.

>>97639718
Because it's played by low status people.

Everything is low status by default. There is no reason for it to be otherwise.

>>97639718
Compared to what? Trophy hunting endangered species?

>>97639718
Staus involves things like money and displays of wealth, power, influence over others, excelence in skills or a career, etc. A bunch of fatties telling stories together is none of those things.

>>97639718
Better yet - why do you care?
If you are "cringed" by participating in any given hobby or care what people will think about you - the hobby is clearly not for you.

>>97639814
I play with women does that mean they are low status

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>>97639718
It's nerdy, which gives it a negative response, and you don't have to spend a lot of money in order to play it.

>>97639737
My opinion

>>97639718
The "status" of a hobby is entirely dependent on the status of the people who engage in it.
DnD is played by low income, low social status, low attractiveness losers by and large, so that dictates the status of the hobby in the public conscious.

>>97640660
>DnD is played by low income, low social status
I don't play DnD in specific, but most people I currently game with are educated middle-class people whose income is, at the very least, distinctly more than the national median for adults working full-time. Normal people working normal jobs and making normal middle-class money, in other words, some of them married, some not. The only time my gaming group's mostly consisted of people with low income was when we were all students and not yet working, at least not full time.

>>97639718
It is a surrogate activity. If you had money and connections there is no way your best use of your time would be rolling a dice to swing a sword at a goblin. The high status don't simulate things, they do things.

>>97640878
How high status should I aim for if I want to become a dragpn-slaying elven swordmaster for real?

>>97641290
1% of the 1%

>>97641290
LARP -god

>>97639737
>Cite at least 27 articles and books dated 2010 or earlier calling it "low status"
mith, J. A. (1985). The Social Stratification of Leisure Activities: Dungeons & Dragons as a Marker of Subcultural Isolation. Journal of Cultural Sociology, 12(3), 45-62.
Johnson, R. L., & Thompson, E. K. (1992). Perceptions of Nerd Culture: Low-Status Hobbies in Adolescent Peer Groups. Adolescent Psychology Review, 18(2), 112-130.
Patel, M. S. (2001). Fantasy Role-Playing Games and Social Stigma: A Case Study on Dungeons & Dragons. Social Dynamics Quarterly, 27(4), 201-219.
Garcia, L. F., & Kim, H. (1987). Hierarchical Leisure: Why Tabletop RPGs Like D&D Rank Low in Status Hierarchies. American Journal of Sociology, 93(1), 78-95.
Weber, T. R. (1995). The Geek Ghetto: Dungeons & Dragons as an Indicator of Marginalized Social Positions. Cultural Studies International, 15(5), 340-358.
Lee, S. Y., & Chen, W. (2003). Status Symbols in Hobbies: The Devaluation of Immersive Fantasy Gaming. Journal of Leisure Research, 35(1), 22-40.
Eriksson, A. B. (1989). Subterranean Play: Social Perceptions of Dungeons & Dragons in Mainstream Culture. Scandinavian Journal of Social Sciences, 10(4), 156-173.
Novak, D. M. (1998). Lowbrow Escapism: Analyzing D&D as a Low-Status Pursuit in Modern Society. Media and Culture Journal, 22(6), 89-107.
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>>97641665
Alvarez, C. R. (2005). The Hierarchy of Fun: Why Role-Playing Games Like D&D Are Seen as Inferior. Sociology of Entertainment, 14(2), 67-84.
Fischer, K. L., & Muller, J. (1991). Stigmatized Playtime: Dungeons & Dragons and Its Association with Low Social Capital. European Journal of Sociology, 32(3), 210-228.
Tanaka, H. (2000). Cultural Dismissal: Tabletop RPGs as Low-Prestige Activities in Youth Subcultures. Asian Pacific Journal of Cultural Studies, 19(1), 45-63.
Rossi, G. P. (1986). The Dungeon of Disdain: Social Status Implications of Playing D&D. Italian Sociological Review, 28(4), 134-151.
Harper, E. J. (1994). Nerdy Niches: Low-Status Hobbies and Their Impact on Identity Formation. Psychological Perspectives, 26(5), 301-319.
Singh, R. K., & Wong, L. (2002). Fantasy vs. Reality: The Low Regard for Dungeons & Dragons in Professional Circles. Journal of Occupational Sociology, 17(3), 98-116.

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>>97641675
Moreau, F. L. (1988). Escapist Enclaves: Why D&D Represents Low Cultural Capital. French Journal of Cultural Anthropology, 11(2), 55-72.
Baxter, M. T. (1997). Status Signaling Through Leisure: The Demotion of Role-Playing Games. British Journal of Sociology, 43(6), 220-238.
Oliveira, S. A. (2004). Subcultural Stigma: Dungeons & Dragons as a Low-Status Marker in Brazilian Youth. Latin American Social Review, 29(1), 40-58.
Klein, B. R., & Stein, A. (1990). The Basement Hobby: Perceptions of D&D in Hierarchical Social Structures. Journal of Social Psychology, 21(4), 145-162.
Yusuf, A. M. (1999). Low-Prestige Play: Islamic Perspectives on Fantasy Gaming Like Dungeons & Dragons. Middle Eastern Cultural Studies, 13(5), 280-298.
Donovan, P. Q. (1984). Geek Gatekeeping: D&D as a Symbol of Social Inferiority. Irish Journal of Sociology, 9(3), 102-120.
Zhao, L. (2006). Hierarchical Hobbies in China: The Low Status of Imported RPGs Such as D&D. Chinese Sociological Quarterly, 31(2), 75-93.
Larsen, O. V. (1993). Marginalized Magic: Social Views on Dungeons & Dragons in Nordic Cultures. Nordic Journal of Cultural Research, 16(1), 50-68.
Cohen, I. S., & Levy, R. (2007). Status and Storytelling: Why D&D Languishes at the Bottom of Leisure Hierarchies. Journal of Narrative Sociology, 24(4), 189-207.
Ramirez, J. E. (1983). The Dragon's Den of Disrepute: Early Perceptions of D&D as Low-Status. Hispanic Journal of Behavioral Sciences, 5(6), 230-248.
Gupta, N. (1996). Indian Subcultures and Imported Hobbies: D&D's Low Standing in Social Circles. South Asian Journal of Sociology, 20(3), 110-128.
Blackwell, H. M., & Frost, L. (2008). Escapism's Elite: Contrasting High and Low-Status Hobbies, Featuring D&D. Contemporary Sociology Review, 37(5), 310-328.
Vogel, E. G. (1982). Fantasy's Fall from Grace: Dungeons & Dragons as a Quintessential Low-Status Activity. German Sociological Journal, 4(2), 60-78.

you welcome

>>97641665
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>>97641683
Slop is more believable if you salt in a few real articles, even if they are only tangential to the question at hand.

>>97640286
God damn it, anon, don't make me this horny when I'm visiting my mother-in-law.

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>>97639718

Imagine yourself as someone who don't have the abstract thinking ability to tell stories with your friends. A few are probably jealous of our ability to entertain ourselves, but most probably just think we're weird aliens or something. Nowadays, even inteliigent people often have totally burnt out dopamine receptors and shot attention spans and don't get anything out of gaming. So they make shitty comments as normies are wont to do. "I wish I had time for that". "What does your girlfriend think of playing games every weekend"?

>>97641783
>tfw a 4 or 5 on the apple chart, but considered the greatest DM of the playgroup because I compensate for it by spending hours preparing written physical descriptions for everything
Any weakness can be overcome if you have the will to do so.

>>97641768
Stop it /k/, get some help

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>>97642214
Thanks for letting everyone know that the reason you made this retarded thread is because you are too stupid to play any tabletop game.

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>>97639718

You do understand that low or high status hobbies are just about how much money it cost and how exclusive it is.

D&D just requires a few books, reading comprehension, and at most middle school level math skills.

Compare that to something high status like polo, or contemporary sail boating, or regularly being a patron of the preforming arts, and other such things associated with old money and high class.
They are expensive, exclusive, and difficult to get into. Even if you have the money, you have to also know the right people to be involved in the wider community around such hobbies. It drips elitism in every sense of the word.

Meanwhile with D&D any poor kid from nowhere with no money could probably get a game group going at the local public library or play online on a $50 tablet or netbook through discord.

Are you pretending you don't understand how status activities work?
Why?

>>97641783
Whenever people say they can't imagine shit I thought they meant at high accuracy, something like 3 or 4. I just can't understand how someone is a 5, wtf

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>>97640282
Yes

It wasn't? In the 80's it was relatively mainstread, and even in the 2000's I openly played it with some of my basketball teammates and no one gave a shit. D&D is only low status when low status people play it.

why wouldn't it be?

>>97639718
Because it's niche.
Or it used to be, at least.

>>97642405
That has nothing to do with status, D&D players were always the weird kids in schools

>>97642646
I had a hard time believing people below 2 even existed. For the longest time I thought people were just trolling me. Till I reach university and to my horror people are just that retarded and will get a degree or PhD.
There are people out there that are basically Large Language Models that can calculate a bridge or write a poem, but are actually retarded outside of their field and/or empty inside.

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It has the lowest barrier of entry. New players aren't expected to know fucking anything and are told to just pretend to be a dwarf or something. Every geek store has at least 1 dnd game going on, the rules are all free online and most people play online.

TTRPG players are perhaps the lowest in the geek community. They commonly don't create anything, just subsisting off of their DM.

>>97643637
>D&D players were always the weird kids in schools
So were the Goths and theater kids and they would mostly play Vampire: The Masquerade.

>>97639856
>All that being said, having a hobby is about enjoyment with your fellow enthusiasts not how you present it socially to whatever panel of judgment your neurosis carry around in your head.
/thread

>>97643637
>money and exclusivity have nothing to do with status

You are too retarded to breath.

Is this an American thing? Every normie I've met thinks DnD is some kind of transcendent high-level masonic ritual. Only people I know who don't like ttrpgs are the people I play with and my brother who calls it Dungeons and Faggons

>>97642646
What no reading do to a mf