>>97647797
6e chaos lord boon table

>>97647797
im a 10th ed babby

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>TQ

>>97647808
that takes me back, i still remember my mates juggerlord rolling to get shrouded which he procceeded to jump from ruin to ruin with a squad of spawn with a 2+ cover save, it was bullshit.

>>97647797
>TQ
...Poisonous Weapons

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>>97647745
I pin before painting because drilling the pins in takes a bit of force which can rub paint off

What are speed paints?

>>97647836
Double up as a stimulant so you can snort them and work through your dudes faster

>>97647836
a different brand of contrast paint

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I hope if GW does bring back chaos androids they are bought back as only vaguely humanoid to give them a separate aesthetic from Necrons (who were the OG chaos androids of course)

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What is the Alabama of the Imperium?

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>>97647877
Genestealer cults have the hills have eyes going for them.

Am I doing washes wrong? It feels like it just darkens my model and make it look shit

>>97647877
The entire Imperium.

Any NidGODS around to tell me if the combat patrol is worth it?

>>97647884
you're supposed to reapply your basecoats over flat surfaces so that the wash darkens only recesses

>>97647889
Pick up a Leviathan half for cheap off of Ebay while you still can.

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Made and magnetised an impulsor. Reckon I'm going to paint my Skorpekh Lord next. I think he'll fit the 'big stick' theme well enough to make the collage if I get him done in time.

>>97647893
WHAT
ARE YOU SERIOUS
So wash is only the halfway point, then re-paint?

>>97647884
That's what it's meant to do, it's meant to add depth/shadows to the model.
it works better over models with a lot ot texture vs large flat surfaces, so if you're painting it on space marines or vehicles you may want to just recess shade so you avoid the bad pooling look.

>>97647884
You're probably laying it on too thick, but that's also more or less what they're supposed to do, the wash is a middle step to painting a model. Basecoat -> wash -> layer -> highlight

>>97647899
wash is generaly the second step you do after you put your base coat on, then you focus on layering and highlighting details.
got a pic of what you're working on?

>>97647884
I paint a little brighter than I otherwise would, so the wash darkens it to what I had in mind.

>>97647899
I mean if you want to you can apply the wash directly into the recesses to skip the relayering but it usually takes longer. Go watch a Duncan video, you should get the idea of a basic workflow

>>97647899
you can try to be careful and only apply the wash to the recesses instead of dunking the whole model in it.

So my raptors built with chain weapons are just fucking USELESS now huh

>>97647932
>building for the game instead of looks
>playing comp
AHAHAHHAHAHA

>>97647899
To be fair.
>undercoat
>base coat
>wash
>layering
>edge highlight
Is the recipe for some of the sexiest and cleanest models out there

Sisters: Zephyrim down 5/10, repentia down 5.
Aedari - wave serpents down 10,5, banshees +1A, AoK down 25
guard - Grizzled's additional armouir now 1 attack like aoc
crons - all c'tan go from 5+++ to 6+++. Nightbringer +15pts, transcendent/ Void Dragon +10 and Deciever +25. technowraith FNP to 6+++
Marine repex to 240, wardens +10, redemptor +5, gravisgar can no longer join victrix, combi lt +15
drukhari - out of phase charge now immediately after movement instead of end of phase, hellions no longer get +1S with pain token, incubi -5, kabs -10
EC daemon prince +10
1k Sons - Twist of Fate now 10/13 instead of 9/12,
tau - stealth suits now are at 70pts for 3 as an option to take it smaller
despoilers +10 for 400 total
no further changes this edition

>>97647945
>eavy metal
>cleanest
I guess
>sexiest
debatable

>>97647899
It doesn't have to be, no. Washes make great filters if you're using light and shadow tones that don't quite match. Slopping on a wash, rinsing your brush and then cleaning off some areas before it dries is a valid final step in the process.

>>97647948
>banshees +1A
They fucking WHAT

>>97647939
There's a difference between playing competitive and your unit just hitting like a wet noodle and not having the strict upgrades you paid for. I hate no wargear costs.

This is kind of an annoying thing with CSM in general, where you have so many oodles of special weapons now thanks to the kill teams building normal guys is "wrong". Normal bolter csm have barely ANY reason to exist, despite "guy with bolter" looking cool as fuck, and even chainsword legionaires barely have space.

>>97647948
>Marine repex to 240, wardens +10, redemptor +5, gravisgar can no longer join victrix, combi lt +15
fair

>>97647948
>orks: unchanged; gsc: unchanged

i thought that was going to be the case

>>97647948
>stealth suits now are at 70pts for 3 as an option to take it smaller
>3 as an option to take it smaller
This is fake. GW would never be consumer friendly.

>>97647948
>drukhari
>out of phase charge now immediately after movement instead of end of phase
Fair. Probably needed. But that one strat has been propping up the whole faction hard because they are awful outside of spectacle.
>hellions no longer get +1S with pain token,
That also hurts a lot because Hellions are the only real hammer unit the faction has since the incubi nerf outside of epic heroes.
>incubi -5, kabs -10
Eh, both help but Incubi are still not nearly as great anymore without access to reroll wounds and Kabalites are still overcosted at 105. Weird that they aren't even going to try touching Hand of the Archon despite it being total trash compared to Kabalites and their last update that let them use venoms still not fixing their main ability to work in transports.

>>97647948
fake and gay

I managed to find the actual leaks
Sisters, Astra Militarum, Imperium: Deleted due to redditry

>>97647994
stealth suits haven't even been available for months

>>97647932
You can use 1 in a melee focused 5 model unit, or 3 in a melee focused 10 model unit now :)

They should have just gone with the accursed weapon meme if they were gonna make raptors jump-chosen.

>>97647885
Most Space Marine worlds on account of being bigger than normal shitholes that the Adeptus Terra doesn't touch. The fact that Ultramar is nice often obfuscates the fact that 90% of astartes worlds are utter shitholes that contribute nothing to the Imperium beyond aspirants for their respective chapters

>>97648063
USA? A ton of shit hasn't been available here for a long time. Probably because shipping and tariffs are expensive as hell right now.

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Lets say we get "Plasma" as a possible collage theme, what would that be?
Aside from the obvious Hellblasters and Havocs, I think there could be:
Kasrkin?
Crisis suits w/ plasma weapons
Gauss Immortals

I don't really know the other factions well enough to know easy analogues. I'm sure Sisters, Admech and Agents all have some sort of plasma tech as well.

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Let Chaos idols take this thread!

>>97648114
>interested in chaos because i didnt want to play imperium marine faggotry
>chaos is just marinefaggotry but with cooler models
Xeno it is

>>97648103
A ton of shit isn't available anywhere, because that's GW's new buisness model. Instead of making a range of kits for the game that they keep in stock and have to sit on and not sell for who knows how long, they release a never ending churn of HOT NEW PRODUCTS that they sell out of after the initial production run, and restock eventually some day maybe if they have machine time and it's been out of stock long enough for demand to recharge. And then they go out of print after just a few years when the HOT NEW PRODUCT sales bonus has completely run out. Evertything short of the most generic core units is destined for the legends bin withing the next decade tops.

>>97648106
Havocs dont get plasma weapons

>>97648114
vtuber poster with the most retarded ritual post, shocking

>>97648103
Not just the US, GW subtly take shit down off the store all the time. They did it to stealth suits in preparation for the new kit.

How do you guys know if a model line is a refresh?

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>>97648133
it brings me infinite joy to see people seethe this hard about chubas

>>97648143
I'm just calling you retarded bro, it's not that intimate.

WTF do I buy to get started with Nids? I want a good mix of small, medium and big guys 4U, but with a bias towards larger models

>>97648165
the combat patrol you like better

>>97648127
Oop yeah that was my bad, I was thinking of the squad leader which can take it. Just checked and the rest can't.

Chosen with plasma pistols then?

>>97648143
every vtuber has a boyfriend, they are not interested in you as a person, they are not interested in any other vtubers, it is all a work like prowrestling

>>97648127
What units for your army do you know are going to be legends one day?

For orks, I'm thinking
>all beast snagga units
>the named nonsense nounverber buggies
>mek guns
>gorkanaught/morkanaught (but something else will exist it can proxy for easily)

>>97648143
Parasocial relationships are not normal or healthy

>>97648185
Ok. And?
People still enjoy pro wrestling knowing it's fake because it's still entertaining
It's like saying you can't like characters from anime or video games because their voice actors are married and don't care about you
Enjoying parasocial passtimes is not the same as replacing them with actual socialization

>>97648203
>replacing them with actual socialization
replacing actual socialization with them*
I am drunk and dyslexic
Either way, everything in moderation

>put some steps on a base for part of a nice urban basing scheme
>cut and sand the edge of the steps to align with the diameter of the top of the base
>realize that I can no longer make that base slot onto a larger diorama without a substantial gap
Do I start over, decide it's fine if I can't use it for a project I'd probably never do, or target myself in my next shooting phase?

>>97648165
Right now on ebay you can find the Tyranid half of the Starter Set (The equivalent of their original Combat Patrol) for ~$110 shipped that comes with
>20 Termagants + 2 Ripper Swarms
>5 Barbagaunts
>3 Von Ryan's Leapers
>Winged Tyranid Prime
>Psychophage
A lotta little guys, a few medium guys, and a single big guy.

>>97648185
NTA but I don't mind that they have a boyfriend, I'm not single anyways.
I like how they feel more authentic than normal egirl streamers in how they talk/act.

That said I find parasocial fans of vtubers and facecam streamers equally cringey.

>>97648226
LOL

>>97648226
>That said I find parasocial fans of vtubers and facecam streamers equally cringey
Like the ritualposter in this very thread?

>40kg: vtrooners slapfighting over their oishiis
>tow: gay chinese furries
Common Age of GODmar cultural victory.

>drybrush with white thinking it'll make the recesses and raised parts pop
>do it
>model just looks like it's covered in cum

>>97648221
I'm going to go with the cope option. If I didn't, then I'd have to extend EVERY model's basing scheme to extend to their base's bottom diameter.

>>97648188
Felgor Ravagers for sure, and probably all the other cultist units they've added recently
Daemon engines other than the Defiler are high risk, venomcrawler is going to get squated as soon as oblits get their own sculpt.
Master of Execution models will be chaos lord proxies for sure one day, same as MoP.
Hellbrutes maybe?
The nightlords and red corsairs will obviously just end up as normal csm again eventually.

>>97648242
>drybrush
>thinking it'll do anything to the recesses
Weren't thinking much, were you?

>>97648237
Sigmar models are generally better than 40k too, although when 40k models are allowed to be good, they're fantastic

>>97648136
it wasn't even subtle with the stealth suits. it was out of stock for a couple months before the new kill team, and then they only did one wave of product and have never restocked

>>97648232
Ritualposters like the vtuber guy sure, but honestly I haven't seen a lot of them like DEldar-refresh guy, Dreadnought spam and beaner kan post in here for a while.
Maybe the turboretard sperg'd them into submission with his spindley queer claws
>Inb4 called some monkey/ape noun

>>97648232
the ritualposter is a well rounded modelposter
you are an impotent tourist who tries to police our general

>>97648248
I think they phone it in a lot on 40k just doing shit for a paycheck to fund the actual passion projects in the specialist games and aos which is basically just people with questionable taste getting all the resources of gw to make their bad kitbash gimmick fantasy army a fully realized plastic range - always high effort and soulful, if not actually very good lucking.

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>>97648226
>I like how they feel more authentic than normal egirl streamers in how they talk/act.
When everyone is pretty, no one is. And therefore content and personality becomes the most important part. Sure, some of them are playing a character. But you'd have to have an iron will to perfectly play that character for 2-5 hours at a time.

Meanwhile, meat streamers just show their tits to get 10 billion horny teenagers and third worlders and have the personality of the most annoying white woman you can think of.

>>97648106
What are the Eldar/Corsair/Drukhari equivalents of Plasma?

See I don't get why people don't just go for actual camsluts, they at least do shit for you

>>97648273
they think its too degenerate.

How can you avoid accidentally hitting other areas of a model when painting, especially trim?
>just paint inside the lines bro :)
But that's really hard...

>>97648265
If you habitually watch any streamer you're kind of gay desu, unless it's like a 1 hour show a week talking about some specific topic you're interested in or something like that. If you're watching asmongold or gooki gaka chan or whatever the fuck for 3 hours or as background noise it's as a friend/girlfriend simulator.

>>97648273
because I want to watch people play video games or talk about interesting shit, not goon

>>97648133
I just like Chaos :D

>>97648141
Just looking at what's old as shit but hasn't been deleted from the Codexes and sent to Legends.
Drukhari and Grey Knights are obvious.
Catachan and Raven Wing as well.

>>97648280
You, generally speaking, can't completely (although you'll get better over time.) Best advice is to paint the color with better coverage first, then the other, and correct mistakes carefully. For example, if you were painting black legion, paint your black, then your gold, and then it's easy to cover up any stray gold with quick fixes.

>>97648185
>every vtuber has a boyfriend
Yeah, me.

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>>97648288
I FUCKING HATE CHAOS

>>97648280
You only have to finish neat.

>>97648273
As >>97648285 says, they want a parasocial female friend, not porn.

>>97648288
That's nice and all but you don't have to post the same unfunny "joke" and pic every. goddamn. thread.

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I painted Dr Robuttnik

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>>97648272
>Eldar Plasma
Starcannons. Mountable on pretty much any Eldar unit with heavy weapon options.

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Why did GW suddenly insist that the Imperium is not a good guy faction? They came out officially several times to refute that the Imperials are good guys.

>>97648284
It's no better or worse than a radio talk show

>>97648141
1.old
2.not a weird niche concept that has only ever had one model (those will just get squatted)

Chaos bikers for example. Although I guess GW has been squatting and unsquatting lately, with the mutilators.

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>>97648349
>suddenly

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>>97648349
It's odd after spending decades glorifying the Imperium to say stuff like that.

>>97648357
>it's satire because we did the thing but just claimed it's satirical
Many such cases

>>97648349
I mean yea, that's a pretty accurate description. They are the best guys out of a bunch of bad guys. If anything the depiction of the imperium has been getting MORE positive and heroic, not less, so it's not some effort to own le facists by making space marines evil or whatever.

>>97648357
I think it's funny that they say this and then publish imperiumwank at every turn possible and impossible.

>>97648377
>Warzone Chalnath

>>97648376
Yea, they want to be the "it's all morally grey!" setting, while also having unabiguously heroic perfect ubermench slaughtering ravenous space monsters to defend humanity. The imperium can, at worst, be wasteful and callous towards human life, and overly paranoid about the theat of moral corruption, but considering moral corruption can literally lead to the souls of an entire planet being consumed by demons, who can blame them?

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>>97648375
>They are the best guys out of a bunch of bad guys.
Are they? Are they really?

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Craftworld Eldar are the most morally good faction in the setting but I dunno if we're ready for that talk.

>>97648341
I like it

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>>97648392
Don't think so.
The snippets are from White Dwarf 480.

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I'm trying to put together a basic 500 point list to learn how to play this game with.

Chaplain - 60 pts

5x Intercessors - 80 pts
5x Intercessors - 80 pts
5x Hellblasters - 110 pts
3x Bladeguard Veterans - 80 pts
3x Eradicators - 90 pts

that's 500 points exactly.

Is that a decent array of guys for a couple learning games? Should I swap out a squad for another character?

>>97648349
Does anyone actually genuinely like the Imperium BECAUSE they think they're the good guys? Like for me its a combination of them being the big empire of the present setting and them being the human faction which draws me to them, nothing about them being the goodest good guys of the setting.

>>97648407
>Does anyone actually genuinely like the Imperium BECAUSE they think they're the good guys?
I think some people said it as a joke but they ended up believing it at some point.

>>97648407
>Does anyone actually genuinely like the Imperium BECAUSE they think they're the good guys?
theres a whole wargame of people playing an army where they think they're the good guys, its called bolt action and they play germans

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>>97648349
The Imperium has never been the good guys, but GW realized that a lot of 40k fans are too uncultured or stupid to realize that so every now and then they have to say so directly.

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>>97648407
Making the majority of humanity suffer is an inherently good action.

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>>97648396
>Setting aside [thing CWE did not contribute to and actively tried to prevent]
>CWE are bad because they direct threats to their survival to attack other threats to their survival
>They also aren't naive enough to think their 'allies' won't turn on them in an instant, especially since the Imperium actively purged Humans who were allied to Eldar during the Great Crusade
Sit down.

>>97648411
This anon has never spoken to an actual Bolt Action player.
It's actually the Soviet players.

>>97648413
They are the unequivocal good guys of the setting, read it and weep chaos scum.

>>97648431
Bolt action players will never tell you they are a wehraboo until you prove yourself, last thing they want is to be banned from the gamestore

>>97648434
No, anon. The Imperium is evil. Chaos is also evil. Xenos? Also evil. That's the whole point of the setting. They're all bad. There are no good guys. In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, there is only war. That's the whole concept of the setting.

>>97648407
Good or bad doesn't really matter, I like them because they're interesting. It's a bizarre kind of strangereal society, bits of Roman, bits of Renaissance, bits of futurism, bits of reconquista, bits of the crusades and others. It's fairly unique and it's an interesting aesthetic.

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>>97648401
My other option would be

Chaplain
Captain in Gravis Armor

5x Intercessors
5x Helblasters
3x Bladeguard Veterans
3x Eradicators

Also exactly 500 points. Would that be the better list for learning the ropes?

>>97648444
Tyranids aren't evil, they're just hungry.

>xenos
>evil
Just a bit hungry innit bruv

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>>97648426
Then justify this

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>>97648444
Not anymore, with the fleshing out of Primarch lore and their personal character arcs we are now entering the redemption phase of 40k and the indomitable will of man will be on full display as they conquer the universe and have fun along the way.

>>97648461
>Tau land on foreign owned planet
>Are warned they're trespassing and they should leave
>Instead of leaving they preach the Greater Good while preparing military forces
Eldar are defending their land from hostile foreign invaders.

>>97648445
Thats another thing I like about the Imperium, how diverse it is and how its basically a giant sandbox for you to make stuff up in. Which makes sense, the ultimate purpose for it is to be background fluff for /yourdudes/ after all, even if a lot of people forget that these days.

>>97648470
Roboute is literally pushing the Imperium from feudalism to fascism with his 500 worlds project.

>>97648470
9 years of you retards repeating this shit.

>>97648470
MY FATHER
ROBOBANTO GULLIMANO

>>97648459
>xenos
>evil
Just lookin’ for a propa scrap bruv

>>97648470
A significant amount of Guilliman's 40k lore is about him being hindered by the backwardness and ignorance of the Imperium.

I'm no writer, but I feel like having the Emperor not be an actual person that exists, but more a concept that may or may not have existed, is a far more intruiging and darker set up

Should big basing details (eg; stone steps or a pathway) stop at the edge of the top of the base, or the edge of the bottom?

>>97648480
I've always found it ironic how the shift from space feudal oligarchy to the closest thing in the setting to actual space fascism (rule by a superhuman warrior elite which justifies their rule by the fact that they are superhuman) is shown as an unambiguously good thing.

The Emperor is just the One Piece
It's not real

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>>97648506
>closest thing in the setting to actual space fascism (rule by a superhuman warrior elite which justifies their rule by the fact that they are superhuman)
Tau?

>>97647948
>EC WDP +10
Still running 3. The problem is half the roster is dogshit, not that the top 3 units are too good.

>>97648377
>barabtos
hell yeah, i picked up his new MG and i'm keen to get him built.

>>97648480
Good
>>97648484
And we’re being proven right

>>97648510
The One Piece will literally be real, trust GODa
My theory is that it'll be the last piece to activate the ultimate weapons, and destroy Marijoa and the Red Line, merging all the seas into one, fulfilling Luffys untold dream

>>97648515
The T'au are communists, not fash.

>>97648520
yada yada you've done this routine before

>>97648500
any idea YOU have will always be more interesting than any possible execution, and this will continue to be a problem warhammer has.

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>>97648526
I have yet to see a communist or socialist regime that isn't functionally fascist.

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>>97648502
This cork feature is the specific thing I'm asking about. I'm currently planning to sand it down to be flush with the edge of the top of the base, but I'm also having second thoughts. Should I redo the cork steps?

on the topic of satire where did this idea come from that 40k was made to specifically satirise fascism? If its a satire of anything its 70s and 80s science fiction and fantasy.

>>97648560
That's a rhetorical sandbag used purely to try and stop the usual terminal complainers from trying to cancel GW.

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According to this interview from Dan Abnett, quoted from thsi random reddit post I after I googled for 2 nanoseconds, it was a general satire of Thatcherism
>but how so? how is 40k and judge dredd satirising thatchers reign?
Beats me, I'm not a bri'ish geeza

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>>97647797
>What's an old rule from previous editions you have fond memories of?
my chaos dreadnought going apeshit and killing my own dudes

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has the collage theme been confirmed yet, if it's big stick do you think this will be big enough?

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How valid is an imperial soup army with imperial agents these days? I just really like making weird little characters. I dont really want to paint 60 guys in uniform, or a bunch of tanks, I want to paint a huge pile of weird little characters and funny robots.

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>>97647948
>+10 despoiler
>When the despoiler is the only questoris chassis worth taking in Chaos Knights

That's so retarded I'd believe it. 36 6/2/2 attacks is good, dont get me wrong, but the issue in spiky knights isn't that despoilers are too good, its that everything else is kind of mediocre. I fucking love Rampagers but they're so easily screened from touching what they want to crash into you're almost better off parking it behind a building so the threat of them coming out is more dangerous than actually doing so. Lancers somehow aren't even the best melee Cerastus if you do the math. The Atropos laser cutter is somehow better at melee than the GIGANTIC FUCKING ROCKET LANCE THE LENGTH OF A LAND RAIDER.

So whats the best plan? Parking 3 despoilers at various points across the map and hoping you get carried by Lethal Hit spam while nurglings and beasts of nurgle create a detroit parking lot in the middle. And the worst part is it isn't even an effective plan since the faction is sitting at like a 40% winrate.

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>>97647882
If genestealer hybrids had hair, I'd be totally locked in.
If Votan weren't manlets, I'd take them seriously.

>>97648621
woah king crimson reference

>>97648502
>>97648549
For minis being used on the tabletop, the top always. Looks weird when basing overhangs. If you're making it with the express intent of it going into a diorama and living 99% of it's life there (but you've got it on a base and not glued directly into the diorama just in case you want to play with it, or want to take it out for closer viewing), then you might consider lining the basing up with the bottom edge to make it look as seamless as possible with the rest of the diorama.

>>97648606
Not currently viable in-game, but extremely based as a hobbying project.

>>97648606
According to the one IA player who cried salty bitch tears for several threads straight until he finally clued in that nobody else gave a shit, they're not great. If you only care for making cool weird guys though and don't necessarily desire winning on the tabletop then just do it anyway

>>97648549
Could you perhaps use modelling clay to make a ring around the base that aligns the top with the bottom?

>>97648606
I think your best bet would actually be a genestealer cults counts as army for an inq28 army. Lots of human sized specialist characters or all different kinds. Your cool psyker kitbash can be a Benefictus instead of some chump in an inquistion acolytes unit. Your cool gunslinger can be a kelermoprh, and so on. You'd just need to replace anything genestealy with mechanical. You even get to soup in guard vehicles if you want to. Only thing that option is missing that you might want is knights or a good unit to proxy sisters or space marines for.

>>97648237
>Common Age of GODmar cultural victory.
>Karl Franz mini outlived all first batch of sigmarines

>>97648527
I accept your concession

>>97648633
That makes sense. As a "playable diorama" goes I'm more interested in the "playable" part looking right. Besides, all the other bases will have trenches around them, and if I'm particularly bothered by the gap with the steps I could just make the steps on the diorama a multi-part thing.
>>97648642
I honestly wouldn't think so. Even assuming I sculpted the clay ring to be extra-smooth, I think it'd still make the base look clunky beside other minis on the tabletop.

>>97648659
>franz
Yeah celestant prime is still a model, could use a refresh though.

Iron Warriors vs the ADmech for control of the Cadian Gate and sector soon.
Any guesses who is going to win?

>>97648662
dilate

>>97648668
The current TOW Imperial Griffon model *is* the Karl Franz mini and was in AoS until the CoS refresh...
>>97648677
Iron Warriors mayhaps?

>>97648677
Iron warriors moves the story forward and that's gw's New Thing, and iron warriors are one of the few bad guys that's actually allowed to win sometimes.

>>97648686
Yeah but you aren’t allowed to build him as Karl.

>>97648692
Who and/or what stops me?

>>97648689
>moves the story forward
nothing has moved forward since the great rift formation, it's just "here's a place to set your battles" that GW moves on from without really resolving completely.

>>97648694
You wouldn’t be powerful enough to even clip it off.

>>97648689
The last two books (500 Worlds and Maelstrom) told small-time stories that didn't advance the setting.
Maybe GW is hitting the brakes on advancing the lore

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>>97648707

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Any advice on how to name various Skitarii cohorts? Common words for the army or themes I can hone in on?

>>97648706
The Lion returns.
Wyrmwood.
The Fourth Tyrannic War
Octarius wrapping up.
Nachmund falls.
etc.

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>>97648677
Stalemate, until 2 or 3 books later and IW won. Perturabo model releases.

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>>97648560
It's just a shield for people who are too pussy to admit that it's cool and fun.
Enjoying fiction is not an endorsement of the real world things that fiction represents. But retards do not understand this because they are retards and western culture is gayer than a gas station glory hole.
A Catholic/Orthodox-themed authoritarian regime that glorifies the destruction of the Other is really cool when you don't actually have to deal with the messy consequences. That's what fiction is for.
Unintelligent people have a very tough time separating themselves from the things they consume. They can't understand why they enjoy it, but they do, so they make up convenient excuses instead of facing themselves or facing reticule from other, equally unintelligent individuals.

Just stop caring what retards think and disregard their opinions. Nothing bad will happen if you do. It's all hot air at the end of the day. So with if some Twitter tranny thinks you're a fascist for painting plastic soldier men? Them them to kill themselves and continue your day.

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>>97648341
Very nice. It’s fun painting techies sometimes. If admech and Votann weren’t so expensive I might look into them as a proper third army.

oh my media literacy...

It's the same thing as people claiming a show is a "deconstruction" of a genre, because they can't admit they made massive sweeping incorrect generalisations
See mecha, see Monogatari

>>97648741
Media literacy is a buzzword to shame people for not making everything unfunny "self-aware" marvelslop

>>97648723
>Wyrmwood
>The Fourth Tyrannic War
>Octarius wrapping up
>Nachmund falls
>>moves on from without really resolving completely
and the Lion has done nothing but justify the Inner Circle Companions models.

>>97648692
>Yeah but you aren’t allowed to build him as Karl.
Because..?

Gulliman returning and all that is kinda lame, but I actually like the great rift idea and it's part of my head canon that excludes primaris and primach slop.

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>>97648407
You can be good but also not nice. Well meaning but bereft of kindness.
I wish they could also be good and also ugly, but the last time they did Ugly Good was the 90s probably.
If everyone else is worse, then you are good by comparison regardless of how ugly cruel or harsh you may be.

>>97648392
Craftworld suffer from being effectively a bunch of self-interested assholes. You make a deal with them and the others will go "that was only with them" and they'll start lobbing shuirkens like weebs at you. Eldrad does try, but it seems like he suffers from being a retarded elf at times.

Morally good faction is techincally the Imperium because they are the only faction that is actually hurting Chaos. The Emperor pissing on Nurgle's Garden quite literally is the most morally good thing that has happened in millennia in 40k. He might've killed those Farseers that got turned into trees. Is the Imperium a giant byzantine piece of shit full of suffering? Yes! Are they morally good? You know how many xenos or retards worship Chaos gods because the Eldar murder fucked their way into destablizing the warp?

Most Evil faction is Dark Eldar followed by the Tau. The Tau are just retards, who aren't aware of how retarded they are. The Tau don't actually have the Imperium's whole "we have some justification for being monsterous because AB&C followed by the the Emperor being unresponsive and the Primarchs going missing causing cultural stagnation."

>>97648407
It's more that the Imperium is the only faction that isn't A) Immortal dickheads who fucked the warp to begin with and have no solutions B) things that exist to fight or eat C) Demons who want to assrape everybody D) Irrelevant faction that has no solution for the Warp and GW has never actually looked into them properly.

Imperium does have a solution. Big E is gonna munch on some souls, nap, and then kill the Chaos Gods.

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I can't decide if I want to start a Red Corsair army, Corsair heavy/themed Eldar or Iron Warriors. Please help me...

I love pirates and I love Iron Warriors.

>>97648780
Can't you just mix and match Red Corsairs and Iron Warriors shit in CSM

>>97648775
You don't have to be so self-conscious about enjoying the plot anon. /tg/ was created by Primarch lovers and inventors of the Reasonable Marines.

>>97648488
>hindered by the backwardness and ignorance of the Imperium
That he is finally fixing

>>97648537
>The Soviet union did, eventually, crack.

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>>97648781
Maybe, probably but I would like to commit to one paint scheme rather than making Silver Corsa.. huh...

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>>97648780
>Corsair heavy/themed Eldar
Corsairs are for if you really want to go ham and cheese mixing kits and bits between craftworld, corsairs, and dark eldar.

>>97648791
>>97648780
Make a warband of Iron Warriors that function as an independent piratical raiding force, using some red corsairs models and rules. That is how most Iron Warriors function anyways, not everyone still marches behind Perturabo's command as a legion.

>>97648779
>Most Evil faction is Dark Eldar followed by the Tau. The Tau are just retards, who aren't aware of how retarded they are. The Tau don't actually have the Imperium's whole "we have some justification for being monsterous because AB&C followed by the the Emperor being unresponsive and the Primarchs going missing causing cultural stagnation."

A running theme/joke with the T'au is that they are regularily horrified by the evil shit that the Imperium does.
The T'au are in no way as evil as the Imperium. Almost everything the Imperium does morally offends hem.

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>>97648677
IW will win after the adepticon perterabo reveal and then get will be stopped by dorn (christmas reveal)

>>97648776
If/When they refresh his model the skull still needs to be exposed.

I hate "epic heroes"

>>97648812
Dorn is dead.

>>97648799
Yeah this is what I was thinking about. Make an Eldar army but mix it all up with corsair and dark eldar kits.
>>97648808
This could work. Thank you.
>>97648812
Is it "confirmed" that he is coming back? When is Adepticon?

>>97648821
So were Lion and Guilliman, didn't slow them up much

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>>97648824
>all up with corsair and dark eldar kits.
go for it then, go absolutely bonkers.

>>97648812
If anything, GW didn't care about primarch's established feud. It could be anyone.

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What's the difference between these two products?

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Most chapters have dreadnoughts that have fought for the Emperor longer than any of the primarchs ever did.

>>97648838
more mini's and terrain, you can just look at the contents on the warhammer site.

>>97648731
>Enjoying fiction is not an endorsement of the real world things that fiction represents
It is, though. You can dislike something you are forced to agree with, but you cannot like something you disagree with. Thus, liking is an agreement.
>if some Twitter tranny thinks you're a fascist for painting plastic soldier men? Them them to kill themselves and continue your day.
See? You yourself benefit from the virtues of closing your heart to The Others.

>>97648407
I've met guys who are wierdly invested in space marines being GOOD HEROIC guys and who get upset when you remind them that half the campaign badges decorating an ultramarine veteran are called "The ____ Genocide", but generally, yea, people like them because they're interesting and the human faction.

I've met a few people that even try to claim chaos are the good guys, so I think trying to explain your side as somehow justified is just wired into some retarded niggas.

>>97648842
>dreadnoughts
anyone with more than 2 bonding studs fought longer than the primarchs

>>97648842
I've worked it out anon, you see any time you see a discrepency with the lore, or something that doesn't make sense, well, that's just part of the satire
With this defense, everything makes sense and GW are perfect

>>97648858
>Titus nearly has more practical experience than Guilliman
Grim. Dark, even.

>>97647899
you can do oil washes then simply wipe off anything not in the recesses

>>97648810
Being xenos makes them morally wrong, though, regardless and in spite of being kinder to humans than actual Imperial authorities.

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>>97648833
This looks so fucking cool.

>>97648872
>aliens have the same moral framework as humans
Sis your media literacy?

>>97648780
Why not do a shattered Grand Battery of Iron Warriors who defected to the Red Corsairs? Best of both worlds.

>>97648842
Dreadnoughts? Fucking Ciaphas Cain served the Emperor longer than some of the Primarchs did.

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So I've been getting back into playing some 40k after spending the last few years (since 8th ed really) just playing Heresy. What's up with people doggedly adhering to tournament terrain setups? I feel like you can barely set up a casual, fun game without people wanting to break out their terrain templates and approved layout charts. So far, it's my main gripe with the state of the game. I understand wanting to keep things balanced, but it's a bit much.

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>>97648818
I hope so, but I'm afraid the Good guys must be beautiful and handsome.
Let good be ugly yet virtuous because of their acts. Let evil be beautiful yet despicable because of their deeds.
There is no heroism in rejecting evil when it's evidently ugly.

>>97648833
Were you the grey knights guy

>>97648810
The Tau often do similar shit, but without any of the excuses of the Imperium. The real issue I have with them is that they aren't fully developed enough after 20 fucking years to actually integrate into the setting. They have potential to do shit that alludes to why the Emperor did shit a certain way without outright saying it.

Imperium does corpse starch for Necromunda regularly and bad guard regiments. The Tau do it everywhere and literally recycle the dead to the Kroot. The Imperium mostly clones servators (but reserves it as a punishment) because AI can get hacked by Chaos, Tau brainrape people because they point out the Tau are stupid. Big E was an internet athiest because he knew that Gods in 40k are bound by their believers, the Tau are unironic fedora tippers. The Imperium has crushing disparity, the Tau give out Nintendo switches for cutting your balls off and has Canadian Healthcare.

>>97648461
Tau are literal cattle that are pre-programmed to obey the farts of the highest caste (canon). An Eldar automatically has a better claim for that reason alone

>>97648877
eldar is underrated as a kitbashing army, I think because craftworlds is traditionally so rigid and people aren't used to the potential of the newer kits and neither eldar list really encourages it.

They're probably unironically in the top five though.

Big e being a reddit atheism crusader and dawkins himself calling it gay and retarded has to be the single lamest retcon of all time.

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>>97648842
>>97648858
>>97648869
>>97648886
GW can't into numbers. The heresy makes more sense if you multiply almost every number by x10.
That way the Crusade was two thousand years and the heresy lasted 80, which is enough time for generations to be born and grow old inheriting a fight for a cause they never knew, while the original guys weep at how much has been lost and forgotten.
Warhammer.

>>97648898
If they didn't want me to be evil, they shouldn't have made mk7 power armor evil niggas only.

>>97648677
>Cadian Gate
wasn't that blown up already?

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I have read the core rulebook but i still have no idea what i am doing as far as making an army.

So i need to pick 1 codex and i can use basically any units from that as long as i have enough points right?
Mixed armies are not allowed. I.e. guardsmen with a squad of space marines. Or like if i want to play death watch i would use the imperial agents codex so i couldnt have a death watch tech marine or dreadnought.
Am i severally misunderstanding how it works?

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>>97648877
Now that basically all of the Eldar models have flat shoulder joints you can just stick everyone's arms everywhere, it's great. Stick corsair swords and pistols on swooping hawks and scourges to make the flying guys, give incubi new heads, fusions guns, and make them into fire dragons. The vagaries of corsairs is just the perfect excuse to do whatever you want with the range, and the new build-a-commander rules are even better because for eldar they're perfect. Want a flying outcast with a missile launcher? Want a teleporting guy with a brace of pistols and a shuriken cannon that's also a glaive? No problem. Opponent won't let you use a custom commander? Okay, you're autarch is now Yriel because he gets a helmet that turns him into a generic model without even cutting off anything.

>>97648890
because all of the rules and points are based around tournament results. so why would you not play on the format that the game is balanced around?

how come IG is the only faction to have had its homeworld equivalent blown up. It seems like Ultramar, Baal, and the Tau get attacked all the time but nothing ever actually happens to them long term

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>>97648905
?

>>97648938
>dice rolling
>tournament
LOL
Only perfect information games can remotely be considered competitive

>>97648921
Broken but not fully destroyed. The fortress worlds around the Cadian system endure to this day against ceaseless waves of heretics and daemons.

>>97648912
I like the concept that he was more terrified because even he doesn't fully understand how the warp reflects belief/ actually did not want to be called a god because he was autistic. The issue is that Sci-Fi writers are actual retards since the 80s. Most of them got into French philosophy or something they thought sounded pretentious and never actually looked at anything.

Heinlein is pretty cool for being autistic about natural rights and disagreeing with the Enlightenment (Rosseau is a bitch, Samuel Johnson is my nigga) in a way that I can disagree with but understand.

>>97648915
Fully agreed, the crusade being 200 years makes fuck all sense for the scale and stability of the imperium that resulted. How did they solidify such an enduring identity in a bunch of completely disparate cultures that have been diverging for literally 10k years? Not to mention it's just logistically impossible. That means each legion was, very roughly, conquering a planet every other day for 200 years straight. Having the crusade being a major era of the imperium rather than just it's very brief initial start up phase also would make the way every fucking thing has to be rooted in the heresy with the sole exception of the sisters of battle a lot less trite and retarded.

>>97648908
>They have potential to do shit that alludes to why the Emperor did shit a certain way without outright saying it.
they do have the "and then one day the Ethereals showed up and unified the empire" thing as well. just instead of doing it by diplomacy and the sword, they did it by mind controlling everyone. in some ways the Ethereals are just as bad as Big E but with better propaganda

>>97648942
Guard and Mechanicus exist to take Ls so that the Space Marines don't have to. That way GW can say the Imperium loses on occasion too while the Space Marines remain undefeated and unharmed.

They really need to let SM get fucked, it's just Marvel tier bullshit if they're always winning

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So assuming the Iron Warriors get a battleforce with the Defiler, new character, and legionaries with the upgrade sprue, what else will they add to fill out the box?
Better not be a fucking rhino I swear to god.

>>97648931
You're pretty much right, you get units from one book, although a lot of books have specific exceptions that say "by the way, you can specifically use a unit from another book"

Imperial agents are a good example, you're not REALLY meant to play them as their own army, they have a rule that lets you add one or two units from their book to another imperium book, so you can add some death watch models to your imperial guard or whatever.

>>97648942
All Imperial factions besides Marines (sans deathwatch) and to a lesser extent modern Sisters exist to job to stop Xenos and Chaos players from getting too demoralized

>>97648942
Cadia getting blown up is the only thing that has ever really happened, and it also didn't really matter because cadian culture has spread to 11 billion trillion planets

>>97648942
Because their homeworld was the one keeping chaos stuck in the jobber zone and GW wanted people to take the black crusades more seriously

>>97648943
No. You’re not him. He used a saturine for his baby carrier. You don’t deserve his Mexican filter. Nice minis tho.

>>97648966
no way they put all four new kits in the same box, probably going to be some dogshit like the oblit+venom crawler sprue instead of mutilators.

>>97648908
>The Tau do it everywhere and literally recycle the dead to the Kroot.
The T'au burn their dead or give them space burials by ejecting them out of airlocks.

Kroot eat dead warriors as payment. The T'au look the other way. It's not something regular.
>Tau brainrape people because they point out the Tau are stupid.
Going by the Elemental Council novel, Brainwashing is reserved for high-end criminals and rebels. It's not something universal. It's not like the Imperial hypnoconditioning that every damn officer has to get.
>Big E was an internet athiest because he knew that Gods in 40k are bound by their believers
Actually, the Emperor truly hated religion for personal reasons other than its empowering Chaos.
>or cutting your balls off and has Canadian Healthcare.
Human populations are noted to increase after the Tau takeover of Imperial worlds...
This suggests that the Imperials are suppressing reproduction.

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>Release new models
>Every appearance in their first book is them being massacred without effort by the other faction being released
What is this marketing strategy called?

Female custodes? What's next, a femaleceptor?

>>97648880
Humans have the framework of humans. Do not blame the alien for being inhuman – they cannot help their nature. But kill traitors before outsiders. They chose being wrong.
I would post the picture of a human helper hung from a lamppost with "Betrayed his race" around his neck discovered by a Tau fire warrior, but I just can't find it in Google, so I leave the pertinent codex quote.
>The alien and the renegade are the vagaries of the galaxy incarnate. What can we truly know or would want to of their ways or motivations? They are to us as the rabid wolf at the closed door that knows not even its own mind. Be that door. Be the simplicity of the steadfast and unchanging: the barrier between what is known and the unknowable. Let the Imperium of Man realise its manifold destiny within while without its mindless foes dash themselves against the constancy of our adamantium. In such uniformity of practice and purpose lies the perpetuity of mankind.

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>>97648915
Once you start taking it too seriously it breaks of course, but you also get to enjoy other implications.
10,000 years is not that much time celestially-speaking, I've always liked the thought of a audio-archeologist that flies around the Imperium trying to capture ancient vox or radio broadcasts from old battlefields or historical events.
Eldar craftworlds aren't moving anywhere close to light speed because of relativity, so even after 10,000 years they've barely moved anywhere from their original starting point relative. At whatever regular speeds they'd be traveling at a craftworld would probably have only passed through a couple of star systems so they'd be able to calculate their original worlds pretty easily after that.

>>97648952
The best justification I can think of is that he fully understood how belief effects the warp, and didn't want his will and soul being consumed by the egregore being created in his image.

>>97648961
Sorry heckin’ Titus and friends will probably solo Fulgrim in SM3

>>97648966
I’d say Obliterator’s because it’d be too good of a box to have the new Defiler and the new Mutilators. It’d also highlight the IW’s 40k version since apparently they’re known to have those big dudes,

>>97648978
Thank you

>>97648955
The Etherals are annoy me because either they mind control via farts or are psykers. If it's farts than the Tyranids shouldn't even need genestealers, just launch a spore full of feel good farts. If they are psykers and the Tau assimilate psykers, they should be getting chowed by chaos gods. I don't hate the Tau for not being grim dark enough. I hate how little they interact with the setting or bend the rules of the setting. They exist so redditors/ Star Trek fans who hate DS9 can have a good guy faction.

Big E at least is literallly just a psyker who likely tried the puppet master shit and it's alluded that the Imperium is him trying to keep humanity from getting Chaos'd before humans can fully develop into psychics.

>>97648996
I like that audio idea, stealing this for my gulb shitto home brew knock off calixis sector I'm working on with my buddies

>>97649005
>alluded
Outright stated in HH novels

>>97648996
Craftworlds also have the webway, even with most of it invaded by Chaos it’s a decent way to get around

I thought the emperor’s plan was to ascend to (chaos?) godhood himself and btfo the other chaos gods thus saving humanity

My problem with tau is they only exist in one tiny corner of the galaxy and there's always some tau nigga around, so you have to set every single crusade group in the ultima segmentum or come up with some tortured reason why the local faggot is allowed to be included.

>>97648986
The Tau books literally ignore shit because the GW can't decide if Tau are genuine retards or malicious retards. They have both confirmed and denied from Tau perspectives that the Tau sterilize humans en mass and process them en mass. Water Caste also lies, but also doesn't according to GW.

Tau are poorly written.

>>97649015
A craftworld is too big to go into the webway, I'm sure that's been mentioned somewhere.

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>>97649005
You do know that there exist powers in the galaxy outside the Warp, right?
Erda's power.
Faith Powers.
The Powers of Fenris.
The Enuncia

Also, Ethereal powers (invocations of elements) work on non-T'au.

>>97648998
NTA, I'm more in the camp that if he'd encouraged or enforced it he would have gotten rote recitation but not real true faith, so it was reverse psychology to eventually get enough of that true faith to matter.

>>97649025
The sterilization thing came from a 3rd party video game

>>97649015
as I understood, craftworlds have webway gates, but themselves only travel at sublight through realspace.

>>97649013
If you make any money off of it you owe me

>>97649027
If cumrag can fit then a craft world should be able to fit

>>97649031
If that the case he would have been clapping his hands like a down syndrome child when lorgar got it, instead of blowing him up

>>97648968
Oh cool. I will have to look into it more carefully then, thanks for the example.
Flipping through imperial agents it really felt like a mish mash of unrelated units. Makes sense that its like "add some of these guys to your REAL army".

My friend had a tyrannid army and has been in the hobby way longer. My stupid larp idea was to get some guardsmen and have a deathwatch squad as support. Its a fun little story in my head about the guard getting overrun by xenos and the deathwatch trying to contain them. I expect to lose every game i play against him so i might as well have a good backstory to cope.

>>97649030
>pretending to be retarded

So they drug up the dalits?

>>97649038
That's like saying because houston texas is part of the american highway system, you should be able to drive a 23 story high rise appartment on I25

>>97649048
Erebus has a bit with Erda where he senses that her power is not from the Warp but from another source.

>>97649045
That's a very good choice in my opinion, space marines look coolest next to normal human friends. I use deathwatch rules to include a squad of my own made up space marine chapter in my guard army.

>>97649038
I think commerce-rag was built inside the webway rather than being teleported into it.

>>97649042
I'm aware this is cope, but I think lorgar was either going too hard too early and threatening to spoil things, or was supposed to continue the Emperor worship after getting tested and be the stronger in his faith for it. The idea is that a persecuted (new)religion inspires true faith through struggle and an officially prescribed (new)religion inspires rote recitation without faith, or resentment.

>>97648749
Huh? Quite the opposite

>>97649030
>Horus heresy retardation
>Literally just the warp
>in universe space wolf copium
>abnetverse (cool though, I like ravenor but it isn't really 40k)

>>97649050
It is theoretically possible to drive a 23 story high rise around, checkmate atheist

>>97649055
Erda is the worst part of the Heresy and her defining part is having a woman moment. You are defending poor writing with more poor writing.

Also, I'm pretty sure that entire fucking thing was Erebus going "WHAT I DON'T HAVE TO SELL MY BUSSY TO THE DARK GODS!!! WOWIE ZOWIE!!!!"

>>97649045
I always thought the fantasy of Imperial Agents was basically having an Inquisitor led army, which the Deathwatch are historically a part of under the Ordo Malleus. It generally wouldn’t make sense for too have a huge army.

>kept making fun of astra militarum
>their armies are actually starting to look pretty cool to me
SHIT

>>97648855
>you cannot like something you disagree with
What is this retardo take? I play devout Imperial cult characters in 40K RPGs all the time while personally disagreeing with the removal of individualism and more fascist ideology of the Imperium. It's an escape, I can play as a self righteous asshole in a fantasy universe where that belongs, and that's enjoyable because I never want to be that asshole IRL.

People who think fantasy has to reflect IRL cannot picture the apple.

>>97649069
Translator's note: he did, in fact, have to sell his bussy to the dark gods

>>97649080
Despite GW’s best efforts Guard is kino

>>97649080
the 30k russ kit has me tempted to finally take the plunge, if it's as much of an improvement over the old rhino kit as the deimos one is I might not be able to stop myself. The fugly old russ was the only thing stopping me.

>>97649030
world spirits are warp powers

"He was not free, and would never be. He doubted anyone or anything truly was. He rejected power, and yet it was thrust on him. His dream bothered him. He must know more, and that meant going deeper. A mortal mind could not look upon the warp as it truly was. An order must be imposed, a cypher through which the mysteries of eternity might be safely interpreted. Primus drew in his consciousness, preventing it from dilution in the raw soul stuff of the immaterium. From his own memories he forged a sub-realm he could traverse, a place of personal truths. The methods were common to psykers. Throughout history those with a connection to the otherworld sought to impose humanity upon it, lest it strip their humanity from them. The symbolism varied. The Fenrisians had their Underverse, the Blood Angels their angelic visions, the Navigators their zodiacal allegories, the astropaths their verses and obfuscatory imagery, but the goal was the same: the protection of the soul against the inimical gods of the warp, and the ability to look upon that which could not be looked upon."-Genefather

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>>97648957
Mechanicums seems to sneak a lot of wins, actually. The Prefectia post-Damocles crusade had everyone lose: AunVa actually died, space marines walked away empty-handed and depleted, the IG lost millions, as well as superheavies, and the ground commander was abandoned, and probably died in the fire. Because they Externinatus'd the planet they were fighting for. Knights also were forced to retreat, and Farsight had to flee.
Meanwhile, the Mechanicus stole the Air Scrubbers and xenotech they coveted. It was they who supplied the torpedo that set the entire nebula ablaze. And in doing so, they successfully ended the Third Sphere Expansion.
This in turn forced the Tau to rush their ftl drive project, which sent the fleet into the warp, where 3/4ths of them died. On live tv.
Most importantly, this taught the 4th Sphere to be racist, causing the first actual threat of disunity among the Tau in millennia.

All of this because AdMech wanted some Tau AC units.

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>>97648890
I'm in the same boat, I got into a beginners casual tournament after collecting a bunch of models. Every match layout and main objective is predetermined each round, I get it, but it made me already start to lose interest in learning because I appreciate the thematic and narrative type of games way more than the competitive side. After this tournament, I don't think I want to see another L shape rectangle ruin for a few months. Roping my gf into playing small skirmish games at home instead in hopes that it'll be more fun to learn and to have someone to play with.

I think having small warp capable ships is much better lore than the smallest warp ships being a kilometer wrong because it's better suited for the actual scale of 40k, which is like 40 guys per side.

>>97649081
You okay what you wish you could be. It's like how dudes who play female characters are all LGBT, either open or in denial.

>>97648890
People imagine they're "practicing for a tournement" at all times and for some reason reject legends, crusade, and casual play despite casual play being all anyone ever really does.

>>97649118
>lore represents the tabletop
other way around

>>97649057
I hadnt considered being able to include your own OC chapter with those rules but thats cool you are allowed to.

Im still very new so maybe a mixed army wouldnt be the best but mixing the factions together seems so cool and theyre all on the same side. Its not like im trying to include the tau with a mechanicus army

>>97649078
I thought the death watch was under ordo xenos and the grey knights were speciallized in fighting demons. I mean they all fall under the larger inquisiton umbrella right?

Could i just make an all inquisition army? Some death watch guys, grey knights, sisters of battle, inquisitors ect. Theyre all in imperial agents. I guess the navy guys too. I didnt even know they existed before this evening.

>>97649118
40k stands for "40 guys, one kilometer"

>>97649117
>playing small skirmish games at home
On that note I have a question for /40kg/: Are 500 point games really *that* bad in 10th?

>>97648424
Agreed. I unironically think the Interim Coalition of Governance is immoral because it fails to institutionalize mandatory rape among the children.

>>97649122
I just really really want to fuck a female pandaren bro

>>97649132
It’s been awful since 6th edition.

Me sad no Chaos Xenos

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>>97649118
Tau Mantas could take short jumps in the warp and they're extremely tiny, it's possible.
But something small like a frigate or destroyer might still only support a small strikeforce instead of needing a two click cruiser to dump a platoon of marines on a planet.