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So like did we retcon this place ever existed out of spite?
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>>97879221
No. Apparently the community behind it just started removing a lot of "problematic" content from the wiki.
To my knowledge it is just to do so.
Because so far I don't know if it was done in compliance with web hosting rules or web hosting laws.
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>>97879246
I don't know what prompted that /pol/ stuff but keep it at /pol/ anon.
>>97879251
>I hope we can all agree
Very stupid of him to say that phrase. Contrarians are everywhere on social media.
>don't meet the miraheze content standards.
Alright so it was compliance with site rules and not some pseudo holier than thou stuff. I hope.
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>>97879850
Everything enjoyable, everything fun, everything you can enjoy?
All of it will be removed, one piece at a time.
There must be no escape from the enshittification of all things.
Entirely for the purpose of making you more miserable.
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>>97879251
Quote telling was they binned the SJW page and kept the /pol/ one.
Allegedly it's because the former wasn't relevant to gaming, which never really rang true given the relative levels of each kind of propaganda being pumped into modern games. It wasn't the /pol/ lot pushing dodgy rhetoric into MTG, D&D, Vampire, Pathfinder and who knows what else. Admittedly the term SJW is very dated and cringe these days, but empty activism in RPGs is definitely a thing and it's bullshit pretending it isn't.
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>>97879251
Pretty much, wokefags got in and fucked everything up like they tend to do. It's almost like if you don't gatekeep tourists and activist fags out of your mods your site/group/etc is doom to fall. At this point, it's better to stay underground then try to be the new big main hub. Not worth the headache nowadays anyways
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>>97879221
Volunteer editor here
Essentialy, some tards and tourists got mad we got rid of some shit pages and removed some of the outright porn.
One of the pages that got nuked was the stupid fucking sjw article, which really added nothing and was just a page that existed soley so some butthurt editors could post it's redirect on things they found cringe and shit. I remember several years ago some asshat had redirect links to that article on the Tau page for every other mention or reference to authoritarianism. It was really childish, didn't add anything to the site, and that's not even bringing up the contents of the page.
/Pol/ is relevant because it's of the largest boards on this site and has arguably the most impact, especially since 2016. Pol is arguably why every few threads on this board gets derailed by people screaming about trannies and other such irrelevant bullshit.
So yea, we removed some horse ass, fixed up some articles, and removed porn on this wiki about a blue board. If you wanna know why your favorite article had your favorite bit removed, literally just ask us and we will tell you.
Inb4 accusations of the editors being left wing, don't fucking kid yourself. Whole lotta editors with different views over there, so don't even.
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>>97880054
Identity Politics is just realpolitik, as practiced by people who aren't atomized blobs shorn of any identity, be it organic or inorganic.
The Ancient Greeks had a word for a person with no political "Tribe" - "ἰδιώτης", or "Idiotes", literally "Alone" from whence we derive the modern word "Idiot".
Still used in the archaic sense in the context of an "Idiot Hair".
Something that sticks out by itself.
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>>97879221
No it's just like really bad. So there's no reason to talk about it.
Just use wayback for 1d4, honestly.
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>>97880016
It's because the word Nazi has become so debased after years and years of misuse that in most cases it's essentially become shorthand for "people I don't like" and it pops up on both sides of the political aisle (though naturally far more often on the left-leaning side as the right-leaning side likes to throw around "liberal" in much the same way instead).
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>>97880593
Doesn't really justify only doing that for one side, especially when the woke side is actively enshittifying multiple current tg related things on an ongoing basis, while the other barely registers outside of niche online spaces and one or two tiny, decades old products.
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>>97880047
>Essentialy, some tards and tourists got mad we got rid of some shit pages and removed some of the outright porn.
>So yea, we removed some horse ass, fixed up some articles, and removed porn on this wiki about a blue board. If you wanna know why your favorite article had your favorite bit removed, literally just ask us and we will tell you.
So, if somebody is complaining about censorship, which you just admitted to, he's just a tard to ignore?
>One of the pages that got nuked was the stupid fucking sjw article, which really added nothing and was just a page that existed soley so some butthurt editors could post it's redirect on things they found cringe and shit.
Found the butthurt sjw.
>Inb4 accusations of the editors being left wing, don't fucking kid yourself. Whole lotta editors with different views over there, so don't even.
You're a fucking faggot, go suck your tranny friend s' dicks.
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>>97881209
Spergs gonna sperg.
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>>97880726
time is a flat circle
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Every internet site is like this now
>2008
>bros make a cool nerd hangout laughing at tits and fags and hoes and monty pythong jokes
>2011 normalfags get online and get psyopped into freaks, so do women and simps follow them (all of these groups will claim to have been 4chan oldfags when they are clearly not)
>2026 trannies and women and simps take over your websites and shit them up by getting into admin positions, everything is ruined, they believe chuds are behind the hate they're getting
Every single time.
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>>97881338
>Woah internet tough guy over here, watch out!
Been seeing this ancient insult repackaged a lot lately. Did you normalfaggot tourists discover whatever is left of ED or something? It becomes very obvious when someone reposts an ancient meme from 2005 to sound 'authentic'
>rest of your post
You will always be a tourist, you will never convince anyone of your authenticity, you are not the 'native' to this website, no amount of mental gymnastics will change how much of an unwanted outsider who ruins everything you touch while claiming (falsely) to be the original because you lie as easily as you breathe and the reason you don't voice your lies IRL is because you know you'd get your jaw broken. Have a shit day, troon.
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>>97879235
>Because so far I don't know if it was done in compliance with web hosting rules or web hosting laws.
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>compliance
Neither. They're hosting it on miraheze, which has zero problems hosting the fucking nechronica wiki. If naked undead lolis are kosher to the hosting site then any censorship they've done is purely out of spite for old /tg/ and their desire to curate and control culture like a good little leftist crusader cuck.
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>>97881583
Anon be real. You're butthurt 'cuz your low-quality edits were deleted. It's not an identity politic conspiracy. You're just bad at writing. Admit it to yourself and maybe you can learn to make better edits in the future?
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>>97880047
Do you at least have links to the lewd art or edits that you trashed? I mostly care about conservation. If its literally just random porn its whatever, but I wouldn't want to lose anything made by a drawfag or anything like that.
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>>97881365
Game recognizes game and you're looking unfamiliar.
Did you get lost on your way to reddit or bluesky and ended up here?
but I got to love how the left always try to claim making something at the same time purging everything about it to make it more like them. The bad gaslighting is sometime funny to read, but no. It wasn't just the left starting the internet or whatever they try to push as always "theirs." Often it's people that don't fucking care and just want to do their thing, not raging leftists. Hell often enough they come after it becomes normal and easy to join.
>>97881357
You got to remember they been basically used as useful idiots and pawns by puppetmasters, yet claim to be "critcial thinkers" and so smart but ask them what a women is and they act like it's a trick question.
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>>97881209
Paypiggy.
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>>97881627
I have a wikidump dated February 2020, not sure where I got it from or what to plug it into
if nobody has the download link I could make a torrent
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>>97880047
>which really added nothing and was just a page that existed soley so some butthurt editors could post it's redirect on things they found cringe and shit
you mean the same thing that litters every other page?
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>>97881627
There are other 1d wiki sites out there anon (overran by crypto bots though), I am sure you can find what you want from them.
>>97882063
I believe that was the last major copy of the site, the one 1d6chan used as its base before root ran off completely
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>>97882260
2d4, before got abandoned (once again, it's a pattern at this point), gutted between 25 to 30% of all articles. The guy hosting it openly declared "this is not a museum" and went with ax across the site.
Month later, place got flooded with advertising bots and nothing was done to remove them, tighten security or deal with it in any way.
And yet somehow, 1d6 is the evil place, because they've cut grand total of two pages: loli and scat.
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>>97882377
Then set up your own wikia if you care about some nonsensical online drama.
All I care is that the old articles about systems aren't removed, new ones are being added and we have a (massively retarded) continuation of approved lists. Everything else doesn't concern me. If it concerns you - be the change you want to see
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>>97881292
>2015
>Retards like anon show up and start bitching about everything and everyone ruining "their" secret club
Fuck off and die in a ditch. You are the reason and the cause why things are shite and you are fooling nobody
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>>97882363
>And yet somehow, 1d6 is the evil place
Is 1d6 the one referred in the pic
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Cause
that does seem like he's the evil one, yes.
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>>97883211
>just Be Kind™* :)
*translator's note: "Kind™" means taking it up the ass from anyone higher on the progressive stack than you and actively participating in Five Minutes Hate against anyone on your tier or lower
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>>97879351
Chuds are incapable of putting effort into anything except wojak edits. The reason they complain so much about trannies trannies trannies lefties trannies commies trannies is because they rely on them for so many things that they're completely unwilling to do themselves, and would rather use a platform owned by the undesirables while complaining loudly than ever deign to host that platform themselves.
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>>97882260
1d6 was the censorship one originally, the current 2d4 one took advantage of that to act like they were going to actually preserve 1d4 but then turned out to be a fag and started stripping things out just the same and doing other retard shit. So really they're both fags of a different flavor, if you you were into 1d4 from an archival of board history angle at least.
I did run a shitty web scraper over the current 2d4 within a day of it coming back, which is before the guy started acting like a fag so openly at least, but I'm not really sure of the quality of the scrape since it's only something like 32.7GB. I really should just shove it in a .rar and upload it to mega or something since it's at least better than nothing, and until what >>97882063 has is available is at least an okay local copy for anyone who doesn't only have baby size storage drives. In fact I've talked myself into it and have started to compress it for upload now.
>>97882063
If a torrent for the 2/2020 wikidump does get made, I'll happily download the whole thing and leave it seeding for at least a month also since I'm an archivalfag these days anyway.
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>>97880160
I think people are re-tribalizing because they were atomized by the state.
It's a "reactionary" phenomenon after all.
But well, wokeshits and chuds are both reactionaries, just operating on different phenomenologies.
- t. Chud.
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>>97885236
>Capture industries
>Drive industries in the ground
>One head crows about their success
>The other head calls you an -ist because you didn't buy their gay crap or see their black movie
You people are a hoot.
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>>97885313
>Attempt to get tabletop shut down in 80s
>fail
>attempt to get tabletop shut down in 90s
>fail
>attempt to get tabletop shut down in 00s
>fail
>attempt to get tabletop shut down in the 10s
>fail
>attempt to get tabletop shut down in the 20s
>still failing
No mater how much you political extremists want to shut tabletop down, you don't have any actual interest in it, so it will always persist away from your eyes.
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>>97885313
It's always humorous when /pol/ types try to invade places they've been denouncing for decades, while pretending that shit never happened.
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>>97885355
You are literally a discord tranny hivemind.
Show me one great work that your people produced.
One lasting thing of transcendent beauty.
I defy you to present me with anything that justifies your claims to a people who have ever made anything beautiful for it's own sake, or ever created anything not born of pure spite.
You cry out in pain, as you peck and peck like harridans.
Your fantasies consist of imagining that you are "the good guys" in a morally unambiguous world, and that is also projected onto your realities.
You are evil, and sterile, unimaginative, and "Smugly", which is a portmanteau of "Smug" and "Ugly" which I coined this moment.
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>>97885436
You're an idiot.
You think you're talking to a Republcican Christian from the eighties.
Or perhaps you are trying to reconnoiter me by accusation.
That would be a typical smug discord tranny gambit.
Show me your miniatures manhands.
I expect a lot of pastelles.
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>>97885423
Also, this leads to the question:
Has there EVER been a tabletop game conservatives approved of that wasn't generated entirely out of spite?
They've been gunning for D&D since day one. They've tried to ban cards and dice. They only now pretend to like old D&D, after making fun of it for decades.
>>97885442
>Please, please forget the things I've done
lol, at no point have you faggots ever stopped trying.
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>>97885444
HEY
I just realized that in light of you two faggots
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>>97885355
Accusing me of being some Satanic Panic relic, that I now get carte blanche to ask YOU to justify the D&D anniversary book's character assassination and racialized attacks on the creators and founders of D&D.
You cuckolded rat-worms.
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>>97885455
We had a small invasion of SJWs back in 2010, I believe, and I told them the same thing I told the conservatives, if they don't like it, go make your own, wizards is fuckin' hiring.
And I'm so proud of them for actually going and getting involved in the thing they were bitching about, instead of just continuing to bitch for fifty years. I take personal responsibility for all this.
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>>97885463
>Double down but also pretend to be a centrist
I don't believe you're sincere.
In any case, if you are, it won't delay brand-rot sufficiently, because the poison is already inside the system.
And between existentially opposed forces there is no mid-point that will hold.
There is a Yin and a Yang in these things; all matter and being polarizes according to it's nature.
What is left in the center is either an alloy, or an inert.
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>>97885481
Entirely off topic, but has there been a single fiscally conservative american presidential offer in the last 30 years?
We either have the democrats who want to turn shit into socialism and the republicans who want to give all the money to corporations, and I just want taxes to be taken in so we're not in preposterous debt and so that the wealthy don't become more powerful than the state.
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>>97885486
I wouldn't stand to work among such a pack of back-biting diversity-creeps and covert sex offenders.
I spend my time recording music at the moment, but I'm still tinkering with my personal project; a Skirmish Game designed for campaign play based on the late days of the Anglo-Scottish Border-Rievers.
I'll be branding my core system and launching it for free if you want to come troon brigade my thread when I drop it on /tg/ whenever I'm sufficiently happy with it.
I am just a guy in a flat with some men, some terrain, and a 4x4 gaming table taking up a lot of floor space in his back room.
I'm a Chud, and that's good, because Chuds care about historical accuracy, and heritage, and don't care about "offending" people.
Do you want to take a handful of soldiers and engage in intercinine sheep-theft and murder against your friends, until King James rounds you up to swing from a Jeddart Beam?
Know this; I put my heart out into space, to show you that I am not a coward, and that I belong here as much as anybody.
You lay claim to this place, I simply exist here.
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>>97885501
I (Chud) am not an American.
Nor am I an economist.
However, I suspect that whoever deregulated industry and made it easier to start a business and taxed small businesses less would have been good for domestic growth, because I am 'that' kind of Chvd.
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>>97885212
A siterip torrent just to preseve an archive of 1d4chan will do fine since /tg/ is by all practical purposes dead and buried. There's no point in a bunch of no-games hosting a revisionist copy with stolen credit
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>>97883211
>all this political derailing
Shut the fuck up all of you.
These are the facts
>pages and images were removed
This is a fact.
>the justification is that they were "too sexualized" and too "offensive".
source: here.
>>97879251
Not a single person said this post was fake, even when defending the changes.
Therefore, any political cope, any political deflection, any bitching at "chuds" is just that: off-topic, and not related to this thread. It's not just /pol/ shit that is off-topic you faggots, both political sides shitflinging is off-topic.
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>>97885436
The guy who invented D&D was almost canceled by the leftists invading the hobby space because he was for sure a blood and soil chud at heart. (And also a didn't care for girls playing D&D)
You don't get credit for D&D just because right wing evangelicals tried to shut down a different flavor of right wing guy(Gygax)
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>>97885444
>Has there EVER been a tabletop game conservatives approved of that wasn't generated entirely out of spite?
Yeah, it's called D&D, evangelicals aren't "all conservatives". D&D was invented by a conservative white cis-male.
>Gary Gygax, the co-creator of Dungeons & Dragons, held conservative and libertarian views, describing himself as a "biological determinist". He was a member of the Libertarian Party, a fan of limited government, and was known for traditional views on gender, which have been criticized as sexist by some, particularly in early D&D materials.
So yeah, cope and seethe trannys, your favorite game was invented by a chud that hates you
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>>97885444
>Has there EVER been a tabletop game conservatives approved of that wasn't generated entirely out of spite?
The real question is has there EVER been a tabletop game liberals approved of that wasn't generated entirely out of spite? Because D&D was made by conservatives, even warhammer was invented by people who were arguably most aligned with libertarians.
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>>97886320
>You don't get credit for D&D just because right wing evangelicals tried to shut down a different flavor of right wing guy(Gygax)
Unrelated, but what denomination was GG again? I remember it being something weird like JW or Mormon.
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>>97885212
Finished the compression and upload for the 2d4 rip I ended up with after running that shitty site ripper, and for emphasis sake I will say again it was a shitty site ripper that I downloaded and ran on it after 2d4 reappearing while using 1d6's removal of things to get attention in a thread much like this one here on /tg/. Ended up being 26.52GB after compression. Cannot guarantee it's as good as the torrent >>97882063 has offered to set up, but it may tide some people by for a local copy until that torrent of the 1d4 February 2020 wikidump is available.
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>>97886874
Gygax was one of the Jehovah's Witnesses for a while, until he left and became a non-denominational type because the Jehovah's Witnesses are lame. Also it wasn't quite what >>97886320 said of
>(And also a didn't care for girls playing D&D)
but was instead that he called himself a biological determinist and said that he believed gaming in general wasn't a compelling activity to women like it is for men.
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>D&D was made by conservatives
No, conservatives were against it from day 1, and referred to it as a liberal trick.
I know you MODERN day conservatives consider all liberal achievements in the past yours, because of the overton window, but I'm old enough to recall you violently rejecting D&D for being too liberal and satanic.
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>>97887277
There’s an even easier giveaway in that they mentioned catgirls. The catgirl thing was a cybernetic and was mentioned in like one sourcebook in a picture, as an example of weird shit you can find in this particular pleasure circus. The Inner Sphere isn’t genetically engineering shit, and the clans would put your head on a spike if you pitched such a stupid idea to them.
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>>97887727
>Gary Gygax, the co-creator of Dungeons & Dragons, held conservative and libertarian views, describing himself as a "biological determinist". He was a member of the Libertarian Party, a fan of limited government, and was known for traditional views on gender, which have been criticized as sexist by some, particularly in early D&D materials.
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>>97887749
>Please, please stop pointing out our historical actions
lol
You /pol/ types really hate being reminded that you've been trying to shut all tabletop down since its inception, huh?
>b-b-but I didn't do that
lol, at no point have you stopped. Also, what a hypocrite, you fucks insist everyone in the world is (opposing political tribe) when they point out you're being retarded.
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>>97887786
>"biological determinist"
The creator of D&D says you'll never be a woman
Times change bud, what was and who were conservative changes
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>>97887810
also, it's hilarious that every time you press a /pol/fag, they show that they've got a hard drive of propaganda that they NEED to post.
These people can't think for themselves, they just need to repeat party line.
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>>97887829
>defends liberalism, calls opponents gay
lol
Everyone who did anything important would be a conservative in todays political climate.
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>>97887836
>The overton window exists
I'm not sure why /pol/fags think this is some kind of own.
By this logic, everyone who ever did something new was a liberal for their era.
Shit's retarded, and displays a lack of awareness of what "conservative" means. It's probably why they refuse to be fiscally conservative.
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Considering how many "liberals" called black people the n word when they found out some of them voted for trump, and how you yourself insult people who disagree with you by calling them trannys/gay
I think you're not a liberal, you just want socialized healthcare/education and don't realize the only way that's happening is with nationalized socialism
Other than that, I don't think claiming that everyone who did anything of note was actually a liberal, but admitting they would disagree with modern liberals, is the own you think it is.
Sort of proves what you believe sucks and everyone throughout history would agree with me.
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>>97887899
Of course I'm not a liberal, are you retarded?
That's one of the reasons I've been making fun of you dickless cowards for so long. I recall the ills you've done to the game, and the things you've said, and how you REFUSE to actually get involved.
>People of the past disagree with new thing
Jesus christ why are you people all so dim witted? Does being a political entity just turn your brain into soup?
Here, let me give you a not quite accurate explanation because you can't understand anything but the simplest of sentences and propaganda images:
People like new things- liberals.
People like old things- conservatives.
New thing become old- liberal now conservative compared to people who like NEW new thing
I've given up on you understanding anything more complex than this. That you consider this an own is fucking pathetic.
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>>97887931
I believe that you have, as an institution, repeatedly demonstrated that you hate tabletop and consider it a liberal ploy, and that all of your attempts to claim you actually enjoy it ring like pre-rehearsed discord raider bullshit.
I also consider you personally disgusting for your historical revisionism and inability to understand the overton window.
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>>97887949
>Yah huh! You are a conservative because you don't like liberals!
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>>97887956
>The behavior I was engaging in is clownish! How dare you do it to me!
lol, what a hypocrite.
Anyway, no, I don't believe you to be anything but conservative if you are literally spreading conservative propaganda. You don't see me spamming whatever the fuck images liberals like.
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>>97885542
Neither of those exist in america though. Both parties are about regulatory capture and the only "deregulation" that happens is to make it easier for big companies to get even bigger and screw over the little guy.
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>our
So you really are just going to keep pretending everyone is american huh
Like you're not even trying to disguise your naked attempts at deflecting from the argument.
Also always, leftists are actually the most racist people alive.
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>>97888177
The analogy could be as esoteric as a reference to shang dynasty oracle bones from two thousand years ago or as banal as a reference to a tiktok trend from yesterday.
They have relevance to the analogy's principal.
But most obviously: if an analogy is so esoteric so as to not be a touchstone for the reader it serves no purpose as an illustration. In fact it's ironically obfuscatory rather than illuminating.
But you seem to not understand the principal of irony.
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>>97888271
You still don't understand irony.
A book burning librarian is ironic. A rocket scientist who never goes to LEO is not.
But at least you're trying to rub the braincells together now instead of just crying about not liking the reference.
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>>97887857
It's a valid response to "ERMH, ACKshully, people of the past who made thing you like would've agreed with me!" when we have objective proof they in fact do not
Nice moving goalposts tho
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>>97888366
Why are you engaging with it?
>It's amazing how much leftist discourse is them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.
Do you think there's a person out there who sincerely believes "somebody's mad that an archivist censored their archive? I bet they're also mad that NASA is on the ground!" It's just bullshit to waste your time, and if their not paid then their time is nearly worthless so they win.
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>>97885212
Thanks for keeping the thread bumped faggots
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It should be online now. My internet can be spotty and I'm behind CGNAT, so be patient if you have trouble connecting. It should go through eventually.
Seems to be like 200 MB of text, some 7 GB of images, various metadata.
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>>97885436
All the people you denounce as chuds have been playing games the whole fucking time. They were never a bunch of screeching satanic panic people. What you have is leftist control freaks trying to seize control of an open and creative space by trying to shrink it and exclude anyone they don't like. That's why they get the blackrock dollars and then are like WE DON'T NEED YOUR HATEBUCKS.
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At the end of the day, we had something that worked and was reflective of the community that created it, and someone else said "that's not good enough." The end result was something shittier, as is the case every time this happens.
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>>97888450
Thanks for the torrent. Left it downloading while out and about, it's finished now so I'm going to work on getting it extracted and leave it seeding for at least the next month since it's really a very small file anyway. I'll probably end up using it to patch any holes in the 2d4 scrape I did back in January 2025 and uploaded to mega earlier in the thread today and then reupload the final combo of them in case anyone else wants an easily useable local version of 1d4 for archival and/or nostalgic depression purposes.
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>>97879866
It's interesting to see how we live in a time where everything is increasingly blatant in its obscenity yet completey devoid of warmth or passion, and I'm not even talking about romance or the like, even the actual smut is looking more and more plastic, hollow, canned. It's uncanny.
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>>97888423
Shit, why are /pol/fags always entirely unable to follow conversations?
>>97888552
>seething that people call out obvious /pol/shills
lol
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>>97889561
And, to this day, they still declare it's not good enough and seethe about it on 4chan.
It's absolutely essential they post 50 outrage threads a day about how much D&D isn't good enough because it doesn't match their politics.
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>>97890239
Didn't say stop, just notifying you there's a place where all the things you want banned are banned. You should utilize it instead of trying to make this place more like that one. I won't bother you any more about this, though, since you seem to be in a mood.
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>>97890034
Again, you're just making shit up.
You're conflating a group of non-gamers- wacky religious people flying off the handle and trying to control gamers and reduce the scope and story of roleplaying games- with those exact gamers, many years later, who YOU are trying to control, and reduce the scope and story of roleplaying games.
You are pig disgusting.
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>>97879850
It's not desexualization, it's removing the "wrong" kind of sexualization.
We live in a timeline with gratuitous bear sex scenes in Baldur's Gate 3. But bikini armors like back during BG1 and 2 times are not allowed.
>>97879877
Jew-haters.
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>>97880047
>If you wanna know why your favorite article had your favorite bit removed, literally just ask us and we will tell you.
There was a 40k Blackadder story on 1d4. I wanted to reread it, but it's not on 1d6. Why was it removed?
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>>97885423
Fantasy as a genre has been created by devout Christians, RETVRN larpers and libertarians.
Your people only got into it because it got popular.
There's a reason World of Darkness only happened after D&D has already been around for almost 20 years.
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>>97891015
Nigga I literally cry when I read GK Chesterton's Ballad of The White Horse, once a week regular as clockwork.
I AM the RETVRN "larper", of which you speak.
But I am not a larper.
I am a middle-aged man in a hairy jumper.
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>>97887714
There's a point where increasing taxation strangulates business growth, and you enter a doom-spiral of taxing yourself to death.
We are past that threshold in the UK (Where I am a Chud) because of the largesse of the Fabian socialist state.
I believe in commerce and industry.
Not welfarism.
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>>97891593
>I read GK Chesterton's Ballad of The White Horse
I want you to know anon, that we may never meet in person or know one another.
But if we ever do? I am going to buy you a beer and that you shall now and forever be my kinda guy.
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>>97890705
>Okay, yes, I have in fact been dedicated to destroying games for 50 years, but I want you to stop remembering that, and stop noticing I am to this day still trying to shut down tabletop
lol
>>97891607
Here's a take none of you politicals can never accept, because it's actually responsible:
More tax, fewer government programs, until such time as we are out of debt.
Return to ww2 tax levels.
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>>97892323
It's weird that you understand it was dumb for evangelicals to try and censor and ruin D&D in the 70s and 80s, but you don't seem to understand it's leftist and neo-liberals trying to censor and ruin D&D today.
Do you understand it's possible for a person to hate/disagree with both groups simultaneously?
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>>97891728
Both of your people need to die.
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>>97891627
"For God is a great servant,
And rose before the day,
From some primordial slumber torn;
But all we living later born
Sleep on, and rise after the morn,
And the Lord has gone away.
"On things half sprung from sleeping,
All sleepy suns have shone,
They stretch stiff arms, the yawning trees,
The beasts blink upon hands and knees,
Man is awake and does and sees—
But Heaven has done and gone."
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>>97892509
>Ignore me trying to actively shut down tabletop, the leftists are... MAKING GAMES
>Aren't you shocked? Aren't you appalled?
As always, the conservatives seethe about ANYONE making games, and will take any excuse to demand they be destroyed.
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>>97885346
>attempt to get tabletop shut down
I never did this. Satanic panic faggots were never affiliated with chuds or nationalists
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>>97892945
>Ignore how I am to this day spamming threads to try to get D&D shut down by any means possible, get outraged by liberals... making games
lol, even while lying you cannot conceal your disgust for the very concept of tabletop.
>/pol/ propaganda image
lol, you /pol/fags are so obviously here entirely to make /tg/ worse.
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>>97892948
>lol, even while lying you cannot conceal your disgust for the very concept of tabletop.
Tabletop is fun. I actually emailed the guy who wrote Shadow of the Demon Lord recently to ask about a rules clarification and he graciously responded. btw, Grave Thrall player characters are supposed to have darksight.
>lol, you /pol/fags are so obviously here entirely to make /tg/ worse.
k. Meanwhile I wonder if you play anything besides megacorp slop or really anything at all.
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>>97892960
k.
No point in trying to have honest conversation I see. Don't worry, you can make shit up and I won't respond again. Unless you want to talk like an actual adult rather than a propaganda receptacle or rage baiting homo.
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>>97892302
Probably just (You) farming. No wonder this board is fucking dead when blatant shit like that is allowed. I don't know why I even come back in here to check in on stuff every couple months anymore. Mainstream table top is so shallow and vacant just like the rest of western media has been husked out to be
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>>97879251
>only 150 images don't fit the content standards
>let's remove them instead of hosting them elsewhere and marking the page as NSFW
>sanitized = I removed everything I disliked about it
>I hope we can all agree [bullshit]
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>>97893432
Dude I'm liberal. Right now there's a moderate to chud pipeline because people can't say "I hate Trump but I wish women in videogames were actually attractive" without some perpetually online Bluesky nut trying to get them fired.
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>>97893464
>I'm liberal
Honestly how? Apart from the sheer principle of wanting everyone to have their say in a democratic matter, I can't see how anyone can sit there and think "yes, we can vote our way out of this and it will be peaceful" in any realistic capacity, especially when Liberals tend to not even give a shit about the founding values and constructs that made the nation like the founders all agreeing that America was to be a White nation and should stay that way.
I think the principle of democracy is good in small groups where everyone has a clear interest in the best solution and know what they are talking about, but in this modern era it is a system that talks big game but bleeds money and accomplishes nothing. The "Liberal" paradigm of the post WW2 era is clearly not the right direction right now. The corruption is so deep we need a complete change in system. That is the only real cure for it, just as the cure for an out of control dictatorship is also a complete system change.
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>>97889432
It's pure culture warrior thing, build around the initial blunder of 1d6 mods.
Best part? It's 2d4chan that actually went on insane censorship, but because it's "based" and "redpilled", culture warriors shit their pants about it, even if 2d4 eventually got abandoned and overrun by spam bots.
If you need to understand what's actually going on, consult
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>>97893527
>The corruption is so deep we need a complete change in system.
Sorry for you living in a third world shithole, then. But here is a clue - overthrowing your government isn't going to make things better. Especially not when you are aiming at completely undefined or outlined "system change", you absolute retard.
People screeching at liberal democracy being bad really should be shipped somewhere where there is no such thing, because you are a classic case of someone who doesn't fucking even know how lucky they are.
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>>97879251
>if someone was googling their new hobby for the first time they'd find us first
Why would anyone care? What does it matter if some memey 4chan shit get's shown on search results rather than a shitty fandom page or a megacorps front page? It's just funny, why do these retards think they have some responsibility to society to protect the normies from evil 4chan memes?
I hate that almost universally, only the worst kind of people you can never trust to administrate something without making it about themselves are the types who'll work to worm themselves into positions of power.
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>>97892820
I already claimed Quar in the name of Chuddom in another thread.
I was already Chud years before I was a Quar enjoyer.
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>>97887727
>I know you MODERN day conservatives consider all liberal achievements in the past yours, because of the overton window, but I'm old enough to recall you violently rejecting D&D for being too liberal and satanic.
This is a pretty deranged take anon, I think you should try and read it aloud to yourself.
The shifting overton window doesn't mean that people who are considered or call themselves conservatives today would have been crazy censorious christcucks in the 80's. We were those liberals of the past. Tons of people who were on the left when we were young are considered nazis now, even though we hold the exact same positions, because we live by internal moral principles rather than shifting all our views to align with the erratic movement of popular culture.
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>>97894062
I was the guy he's arguing with, and I wasn't even alive in the eighties.
I was born in the fuckin' nineties.
If he's old enough to remember that shit firsthand I'm impressed he stayed assmad that long, but he appears to have gone quite crazy from it.
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>>97894147
>You just like to play age card too much
When someone else throws out that I'm some 2015 newfag and I reply that I've been here since 2006, that's me 'playing the age card'?
You're the one who brought up age in this post >>97894096 before anyone else mentioned it.
I think you're floundering anon.
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>>97894164
The card that says "I'm an election tourism neo-newfag, but I like to pretend I'm the original deal oldfag"
And you aren't an oldfag.
Can they fucking finally fix the place? I'm trying to post it for 20 minutes now
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>>97893432
a white mother called a child that was stealing from her a nigger. While this is distasteful, a negro pedophile hanging out at a playground recorded and threatened her and white people decided that her life shouldn't be ruined because she was rude. You're still seething about it and that delights me.
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>>97893527
As expected, your post only got cope from people who no longer have the excuse of naivety and only have cowardice as a motivator. No one with a room temperature IQ that posts here still genuinely believes we can vote for people that will extricate us from this mess, they just know that if the people forcibly take back power from the pedophiles that some of us will be killed in the struggle, and they still feel like they have enough bread and circus that they'd be losing something meaningful.
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>>97893650
1d6 refused to conserve the entirety of 1d4 and inspite of being in possession of the most comprehensive archive of 1d4 refuse to allow access to it, preventing anyone from making a true clone.
2d4 started off well then went and made the same mistakes as 1d6.
All I am asking is for the 1d6 team to allow open access to the original, un edited or purged, 1d4 archive, so those of us that want to rebuild the site as it was can do so.
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>>97894078
He's not old enough to remember it. He thinks that equating his /pol/ bogeyman with jack chick from the 80s will make /tg/ hate the people he wants them to hate. That's why he posts with such angry verbiage, it's a feminine tactic to shame people into agreeing with him.
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i'm just amazed 1d4chan took off. when the guy first set it up, i'll admit i rolled my eyes and thought, 'yeah right, good luck mate.' but it was actually a useful (and funny) website. RIP.
my new petty bullshit is that the successor SHOULD have '4chan' in the name. '2d4chan' is so much better than '1d6chan'. it's not like thisisnotatrueending where it was a dude's personal website or tvtropes where the scope grew. YOU HAD COMPLETE CONTROL OVER THE DOMAIN NAME adsfdasjfkl
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>>97894520
Nta, but you realize they've cut grand total of 5 pages... right?
Their mistake was to make a big, swooping announcement out of it, hance retards are still foaming their mouths about it. If it was done normally (via simply removing them and moving on), nobody would even fucking notice.
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>>97894556
1d6chan was more appropriate as a name because the creater was both trying to say it was better than 1d4 and distance it from 4chan. Minorly spiteful but indicative of the intent and predictive of the shit result.
>>97894558
>what was cut wasn't a big deal!
then leave it in
>no, it was important that it go!
then it was a big deal
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>>97894556
2d4 was the default "reserve" for years, every time 1d4 went down.
Except when it went down for good, 2d4 guy did nothing that time around. So people made 1d6, because 2d4 was already taken as a name. Week later 2d4 resurfaced.
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>>97894556
2d4 was the default "reserve" for years, every time 1d4 went down.
Except when it went down for good, 2d4 guy did nothing that time around. So people made 1d6, because 2d4 was already taken as a name. Week later 2d4 resurfaced.
>>97894567
Mate, I'm not the one who set up their rules.
The only page their had to cut was the loli one, or they wouldn't be able to host the site. Don't ask me what the remaining 4 pages (3 of which were stubs about systems and the last one was some lefty-/pol/ rambling) did to them that they cut it.
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>let's replace Encyclopedia Dramatica with Oh, Internet!, that'll be a surefire hit.
>TV Tropes is getting a bit iffy...how about All The Tropes?
>4chan.org? nah, make way for Canvas - complete with Facebook Connect integration.
people just grow older and softer. and to be fair it goes both ways, like that Wikipedia founder.
here's what we do:
any time someone ever utters the phrase 'EVERYTHING is political!' we have them ritually murdered. also, we stop pretending that caring about rules on websites is a bad thing (fuckin zoomers i tell ya what)
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>>97894585
>Things that never happened, but I want to really believe in
>Followed by angry rambling about nothing in particular
See >>97893650 and >>97894520
It's amazing how people who are the most "angry" about 1d6 are the people most clueless on how shit went, what actually happened and what was done on 2d4 at the same time.
It's almost as if you don't care, and don't even bother to pretend, just trying to reel anyone in into your inane bullshit.
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>>97894558
It's 5 pages of culture that have been cut out, meaning it is now a false archive. There where also numerous edits to remove "problematic" things.
Either those 5 pages and those edited out things where no big deal so there is no reason not to restore them, or they are pretty significant in which case not only is that major vandalism of a cultural legacy but also indicates the full archive should be made available.
There is no "if but", no having your cake and eating it. There are only those two statements.
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>>97894595
Both deflections but both easily addressed.
>1d6chan's changes are exaggerated!
Don't care, they were targeted and they're denying access to the original.
>you actually have to talk about 2d4chan instead!
Different subject, also shit for its changes. Satisfied?
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>>97894558
It's 5 pages of culture that have been cut out, meaning it is now a false archive. There where also numerous edits to remove "problematic" things.
Either those 5 pages and those edited out things where no big deal so there is no reason not to restore them, or they are pretty significant in which case not only is that major vandalism of a cultural legacy but also indicates the full archive should be made available.
There is no "if but", no having your cake and eating it. There are only those two statements.
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>The only page their had to cut was the loli one, or they wouldn't be able to host the site
The Nechronica wiki hosts on the same site and has naked lolis, guro, and naked guro lolis. They didnt have to cut anything.
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>>97894567
>1d6chan was more appropriate as a name because the creater was both trying to say it was better than 1d4 and distance it from 4chan.
i get it, but it's like one of those puns that has one extra step you have to explain, y'know?
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>>97894581
>2d4 was the default "reserve" for years, every time 1d4 went down.
oh, fair enough, i didn't actually know this. 1d4chan always just werked for me. whatever all this drama is, they did a decent job keeping it out of /tg/ proper.
i know for a fact someone is about to call me a newfag/something for saying that, but that's always THE problem with any 4chan spin-off project. consider that every single project ever used to have an IRC channel, but you rarely heard about every last squabble between <someguy> and <otherdude>.
(for some reason Discord users suck at this, but that's probably because we're on this 'social media' internet now)
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>>97894581
>The only page their had to cut was the loli one, or they wouldn't be able to host the site
The Nechronica wiki hosts on the same site and has naked lolis, guro, and naked guro lolis. They didnt have to cut anything.
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>>97894596
How is pointing out basic facts and events defense of any kind, not to mention dishonest? What's that even supposed to mean?
They couldn't get the site launched with a page about lolis. Which I guess sure, it was what? 2024? So no host service will take it. THEN they made a double-blunder of also removing four other, completely random pages along with it, AND made those removal an open statement.
A statement that lead to such massive outcry and resentment, not only they had to backpedal on their "mission" and instantly abandon it before it even started, but here we are, two years later, when you are still angry about make-belief and ignoring basic outcome of a single event.
All you really need is masturbatory worship of 2d4 (which went with full on censorship or cutting historical memes and pages with "this is not a museum" statement from the mod, but hey, that's somehow based!) to get the bingo.
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>major vandalism of a cultural legacy
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>>97894616
USC 1466A. they now very specifically, explicitly mention 'manga style drawings' and people in the US have gone to prison solely for lolicon and i'm sick of arguing about this.
if you want to risk it, that's fine. go nuts. the problem with you posting it (or assuming other people want that shit) is it puts OTHERS at risk. webmasters aren't just coming after you pederasts because they're big bullies who hate you.
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>>97894619
>They couldn't get the site launched with a page about lolis.
lie >>97894616
>completely random
yeah, sure. you're conveniently, and I'm sure "accidentally" or "unknowingly" leaving out the page edits, too.
>All you really need is masturbatory worship of 2d4
and yet I think that's also shit. You seem frustrated that I refuse to be the strawman you want to attack.
The pages removed and edited were either no big deal, making the removals and edits pointless destruction, or important, making the removals and edits significant destruction. By engaging in it at all some fag decided that he had a better vision of what the community was than the community itself. His project will be continue to be rightfully reviled as a result. You may continue to be mad about that fact, if it's important to you.
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>>97894616
And now I will have to explain the fucking grandfather clause...
Go check miraheze's hosting regulations.
Take into account when they were updated.
Take into account lex retro non agit.
The actual solution was to not use miraheze.
And it still circles back to the main issue - 1d6 is run by idiots who blundered a great lot of things early on, and people latched to those blunders, rather that this being some sort of fucking censorship conspiracy.
The most insane things are posts like >>97894609, where the "archive is null and void", for they trimmed anything at all. Sure buddy, of course.
By that logic, 1d4 invalidated itself around 2016.
And we are going to have this thread in d3 months, and the exact same arguments by the exact same posters are going to be posted and they are till going to frott their mouths over nothing, trying to create fake outrage.
Actual results? People looking down at 1d6, because bunch of schizoids has their panties in a twist. Who cares it works, is operational and the mods were forced to stop their shit before it even started. Nu-uh, this way it can be targetted and dragged down, so we actually stop having any archive of any kind.
Which is the only goal there is, while dressed up as "concerned citizens" who "fight against censorship of wikias"
Gamergate was fucking 13 years ago. Get new tactics, fuckwits.
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>>97894615
>oh, fair enough, i didn't actually know this
Hello ultra-newfag
The whole drama is fake and gay to begin with. But this way we can have two things handled with one thread: culture warriors can screech at each other and /tg/ can have traffic going, pretending to be alive. What not to like?
I mean other than just that, of curse.
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>>97894669
>Hello ultra-newfag
hi, thanks for having me.
>What not to like?
you know, i understand how posters can enjoy trivial arguments and flame wars. i definitely DON'T like this weird 'politics' route the internet has taken (an anon just used 'politics' to mean 'personal views' or 'morals').
so, you know what i think we need? some kind of regular, slightly-off-topic threads where we can all let out our anger. 'rage threads', if you will.
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>>97894685
We are solely discussing 1d6, which you have been supporting, so yes, you are a supporter of thing I don't like. Explicitly,and you're a huge fag for trying to not just being straight about it. You seem fundamentally incapable of being honest, so your spastic flailing makes me smile. If this is a priority of yours, please continue.
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Well, that ain't that thread, since it's by default hijacked over (non-existing) politics.
Still better than [Prefix] Borg threads, which can't happen with 200+ posts of people sucking each other who's more metal and what does it even mean, deliberately derailing any actual discussion.
Oh, hey guys!
You didn't make one of those in like 4 weeks. I'm sure 2d4 newfag are going to show up and assume it's a genuine thread.
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>>97894719
>I didn't actually check how many pages got cut
>But I will keep talking how more was cut, because
>REEEE with me, brothers!
>Anyone pointing out I'm talking nonsense? They are one of THEM!
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>>97894732
>I made up a total bullshit claim
>You pointing out it's bullshit?
>CONSPIRACY!
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>>97894634
What, upset that your selfish culture war vandalism is being called out and anons are not kneeling to gargle your balls? Atleast your not even attempting to argue back now, or is that because I cut your "your weird for caring" route off?
>>97894644
Abloobloobloo, we don't like 1d6. Either restore the cut content or allow access to the archive. Or better yet, do both.
>>97894728
The fact that any where cut is enough
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>>97881292
While I don't necessarily disagree with the spirit of what you said, I did find that a fair few Anon back in the late 2000s had a very female writing style. Don't tell the trannies but men and women do have a distinct style of writing and once you've read enough you can tell.
I noticed that a few Anons on early 4chan had a similar (female) writing style to some of the old LJ drama communities like Fandom Wank, which also had a lot of crossover with ED, which then itself crossed over with 4chan to some extent (see also: early CWC trolling).
So I suspect that there were more (actual) girls around than people think, but I can't prove anything.
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>[Prefix] Borg threads
these people scare me. i know you're implying it's a bit astroturfed/nogames (sure) but it's surreal seeing DIY/indie/OSR-adjacent games on real shop shelves in the real world, and i have heard actual 3D people discuss them the way you're describing.
i genuinely want e.g. D&D 5E fans to give OSR games a shot. the overall community is actually pretty friendly. even if people go with Swords & Wizardry over Labyrinth Lord or whatever their poison is, 'sall good.
all this Murk Blorg 'artpunk' shit may have actually been created by an evil demon to test my goodwill in this regard.
(apologies OP, i don't mean to stray off-topic in your Traditional Games thread.)
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>>97894741
You realize it's a fucking open wikia and you can put it there back yourself... right? Literally nothing stops you, other than knowing what exactly got cut, but the 1d4 archive still has those pages.
But then, what would you reee about then?
This is the last (You) from me, so savour it
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>>97894754
People always cry about election tourism, but the real death blow was summer of 2018. Nothing was happening globally, but that's the point when /tg/ got absolutely overrun with deliberate and intentional shitposting. Anything after that was just a nosedive, with not even a single bump of improvement, while the board started bleeding users like crazy. /tg/ is the only blue board that still kept losing users during peak covid lockdowns.
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i mean it's an anime website so of course there were girls on this part of the internet. if you went to an anime convention and heard a girl say 4chan memes to get men's attention, she heard that from /b/ just like you and i did.
i don't care if someone is transgender really, but it's unfortunately destroyed the 'tone' you're describing. this xkcd was always a bit cringy, but now it's like there's a whole second layer: is that poster a ca/tg/irl or a 'ca/tg/irl'?
no disrespect to Cavegirl from the OSR threads, but we all knew lol.
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>>97894977
SJW and everything that linked to it now links to That Guy instead, which is a lot and seriously warps the context, meaning and interpretation of every instance.
Many editing retcons, I doubt anyone could possibly know them all or even a majority of them, hence the need for the old archive to be restored 1:1.
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>>97894532
>Seething THIS HARD that it was pointed out they're only here to destroy the board and tabletop
lol
Perhaps next time don't spam /pol/ memes if you don't want to reveal you are from /pol/
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Uh oh, melty!
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>Seething this badly that someone noticed he has absolutely no knowledge of the dystopias he is quoting
lol
Go on and tell me more about how the free archive that you yourself can modify is like 1984
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>bump limit
good job team
traditional games
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>>97895239
i know politics (and /pol/-related) culture wars are annoying, so i'm going to throw generational culture wars into the mix, because why not.
Gen Z literally do not understand online communities having rules as a form of quality control. us older guys are the ones that grew up in the 'wild west' internet, but they unironically think a message board saying
>3. do not post racism
>4. also, no Star Trek discussion
is ACTUALLY a VIOLATION of their RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH.
under-30s, here's a tip: if your favourite website (Twitter, Tumblr, whatever) has rules you dislike...it's the internet. of course they're allowed to do that, and you're perfectly free to go elsewhere. it's not 'Orwellian' and the police aren't going to come after you.
my 'hot take' is actually that 4chan should ban Reddit and Twitter screencaps. those silent TikTok clips, too.
the whole site would improve immediately.
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>>97895285
Interestingly I remember culture warriors seething in basically the same way in the weeks leading up to the Twitter buyout. Very, "no, no, this is *our* public space not yours, this is just like when the Nazis took over Weimar!"
Very dramatic postings.
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>>97895285
It just sounds so hilariously soft when someone talks about these things.
"Aw man, someone removed porn from a website that I could easily put the porn back on. This is just the same as a boot upon my neck for the rest of time!"
Those who came after me seem quite weak.
>>97895309
Horseshoe theory is always right.
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>>97895367
Oh no, your political invasion is getting *gasp* PUSHBACK!
Whatever will you do?
Would you possibly go make the things you like?
Of course not, you have no interest in tabletop games. You just want LIBRULS to stop making games.
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>>97895332
>This is just the same as a boot upon my neck for the rest of time
exactly zero people complain about free speech on the matter of 1d6
the issue is exactly the reverse, that people who took over pretend like nothing has changed
if they made their own fork with no pretensions of being a spiritual successor of 1d4chan then nobody would have a problem
but that way wouldn't stroke their ego and they wouldn't get to proclaim themselves saviours of tg
that, more than any missing lolis, it the crux of the matter
people can smell the bullshit coming off this even if they cannot properly articulate it
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>>97895398
Please call me a woman next, that was pretty good. How long do you typically stay in these threads? Do you have anything better to do? Like come on man don't you have a game to get to?
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>>97895407
I am literally making fun of someone complaining that it's like 1984 you flatbrain.
>>97895405
>Noooo stop defending the board you've populated since its inception!
The main difference between right wing and left wing SJWs is when you tell left wing SJWs to go make games instead of bitching, they do it.
Otherwise you're identical and require identical strategies to combat.
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>>97895419
>I am literally making fun of someone complaining that it's like 1984 you flatbrain.
far as I can tell, you're the only one repeating 1984, 1984
so, no
also
>immediate ad hominem
yeah, I call bullshit
ridicule in lieu of arguments
I guess my comment was too coherent and hit too close
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>>97895419
I've been here for years.
You aren't "defending" anything.
You are just a loud gay nothing-man.
If your kind had made and patented this hobby then wotc wouldn't have had to "clean up" the image of such.
You are no more the inheritor of the works of any 20th century liberal than I am.
The difference is, I believe this hobby belongs to the world, and you believe it belongs to "your side".
WOTC and GW are woke for blackrock money.
If you don't understand what I mean by that, then there is no discussion.
Or they were until very recently.
Blackrock has vowed to put away the woke, but that remains to be seen.
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>>97895425
I mean I'm not the one who's made multiple posts itt seething about the chuds but go off. I honestly thought this thread would have died a while ago, (that first three day post lol) have you been keeping it alive this entire time?
Myself, I've monkey branched off DnD to run Legend of the 5 Rings which advertises itself as "Rokugan Your Way" so I can present the xenophobic, socially ossified Empire as conservative as it needs to be. My players enjoy it so far, it presents a good contrast to the heroes they're trying to be. I even got them to sympathize with a homophobic old man from the Near East who got two of his gay students killed.
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>>97895461
>/pol/fag cannot understand anyone but a liberal noticing and rejecting his invasion
lol, seethe more about how you want to shut down tabletop.
The funny part is, if you actually went and got a job at D&D and made your ridiculous bullshit, I'd be defending you just the same, since you're MAKING SHIT.
>>97895467
>I totally play games! Here, have some /pol/ buzzwords!
Yes, yes, I totally believe you, especially after the repeated /pol/ propaganda and your repeated refusal to actually go make a thing you like.
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>>97895505
To continue, the point is that the Emerald Empire is super super backwards, much like Japan was pre-Meiji era.
I made my setting "my way" and more socially conservative since it's perfectly allowed per the publisher and don't incessantly complain about the "woke", isn't that exactly what you want?
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>>97895486
Nigga I already showed you my Quar.
Here's more of my miniatures.
And you are tilting at a straw man, and not even thrashing that, because I already told you I'm not a Christian or a Republican, or even an American, but I have no doubt you hate all those things.
>>97895505
L5r is neat.
like
>What if medieval Japan was the size of medieval China
>Magic wasteland in the north wants to eat the empire
>>97895518
Tbh, as written, it's basically feudal Japanese social norms, enforced to a tee, with various degrees of tight-arsedness depending on clanm you'd hardly have to change much.
Maybe clamp down on monks being faggots.
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>>97895563
Dude I could rant about L5R for an hour at least. I love that it's such a fleshed out setting that still remains completely its own thing. It's way better than most other "Asian"-flavored areas in most other RPG systems (like Pathfinder's Tian Xia) because it only focuses in hardcore on that single Empire. Despite being the same ethnicity, every clan has its own customs, rumors, superstitions, stereotypes, inter clan relationships and so on (even having different customs within that same clan/family based on whether or not you're an eta or a samurai!) vs Pathfinder or Kara Tur in Faerun which is forced to be so stretched thin it's nearly meaningless. Each "race" has just like two pages worth of "content" implying every ethnicity is basically the same with zero differences and all of them somehow worship the same pantheon of gods.
And I mean, I get it, 100% understand, but also it makes the other settings so much less interesting. I got that one gazetteer from Pathfinder about Tian Xia because I love fantasy Asian settings but as I said before--a lot of the lore itself was just one or two pages each, dedicated to each region within that area.
Whereas I have pages and pages of lore in L5R with Kabuki play snippets, stories from Other Races that used to exist before humanity (and as a side note, love love love that all of these other races don't look human at all, they're all distinct and sometimes drawn from real Japanese history) journal entries, horror stories, letters etc all from people who "live" in the Empire. Rokugan just seems so much more fleshed out than the equivalent Minkai or Kozakura.
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>>97895656
I suppose so, lol. I kind of want to blab about the magic system now since a chud friend of mine in the /tg/ discord server came up with a super cool and flavorful new magic system (Gu magic, based off the Chinese evil folk magic of the same name) for the 5e edition and I was able to test it out in my games to some success but I have already sperged out on l5r enough and don't want to redirect too much.
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>>97895647
Fair enough, it's been an age since I skimmed it.
It never had much of a following over here, but I spent an evening wiki-walking the setting some years back, and it seemed preddy cool.
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>>97895486
>/pol/ buzzwords
I still really need to know what you mean by this because L5R as a setting /is/ intended to be xenophobic as all get out. Literally all the words I described (aside from Far East, because it's actually a Sultanate to the west of Rokugan) describe the Emerald Empire accurately and are how it was designed by the original creators.
Like the Rokugani are absolutely socially ossified into their current classist, feudal power structure (for 1000 years of peace as they like to say), eta and the other lower classes are obligated to submit to the PC samurai at all times and Rokugan is so terrified of "outsiders" they still think the Moto are barbarians after like 200 years of having them be a family within the Unicorn clan. *And the Moto are the same race (Asian) as the Rokugani, they're just a slightly different ethnicity further out West*. Novels set in L5R have Rokugani *notice people* who came from other slightly different ethnicities that got absorbed into the Empire during its expansion in the Kami era and their different facial features.
When I 'had to make it more socially conservative' all I did was remove the ability for gays to get married and make it so that only shugenja (already considered weird and scary by most Rokugani) can do weird stuff like refer to themselves with different genders. Arranged marriage is already a major thing within the setting and is explicitly the focus of one scenario, classism/honor/lineage is baked into the setting. It's a rough edge but that's where the players are able to stand out and feel like they made a difference even if overall the players are intended to be agents of that Empire.
None of the words I used to describe L5R are 'buzzwords'. You'd know this if you knew what L5R is--a niche RPG that regardless occasionally gets threads on /tg/.
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Yeah it is, no I have no idea lol. I didn't even know it was a different font.
>>97895788
What is Quar anyway? I'm not so into wargaming.
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>>97895920
>Quar
It's more like 3 different wargames but actually only 2 in a trenchcoat.
Quar are the titular colourful ant-eater people that constantly make war on each other, and they're currently struggling with liberalization and a war headed by a napoleonic figure who died.
As a game, it's harder to pin down because there's a lot of minis for a system that doesn't exist.
Currently it's a bunch of older rules for larger scale games and then an updated skirmish game.
There's something very cute, down to the bones of their designs that i think people find appealing. lore of very janky but funny looking machines, and weird pet creatures.
i want to see more of it and play more of it if they actually release warhammer scale rules.
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>>97895505
>Pretending ignorance over using /pol/ buzzwords
lol, liberals and conservatives are lockstep identical, huh?
>>97895563
>Please, please believe me
No. I'm not going to believe you, at this point, until you put your money where your mouth is and release an edition of D&D.
Anything less than that, especially when accompanied by /pol/ memes, indicates you are just here to destroy.
>>97895973
>warhammer
Jesus christ, conservatives really DO take credit for every liberal achievement.
>>97895920
>I don't UNDERSTAND
>I NEEEED you to respond
lol, pathetic. Also, horseshoe theory proven right again.
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>>97896269
OK, so you actually do have no idea what Legend of the 5 Rings is or what it represents as a system.
Holy shit, /you're/ the tourist here, that's wild. I'm in awe. At least this thread is in autosage now so everyone else itt can laugh at your /pol/ ass.
>>97895962
That sounds cool, I do like the designs of it. I've never gotten into painting or wargame type stuff but then again I'ma real girlso I guess I'm just not biologically wired for it lmao.
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>>97896418
Dude please just go back to /pol/ yourself and stop harassing the regulars here. That is your home. We ca/tg/irls and fa/tg/uys are a peaceful bunch.
>>>/pol/
Just wondering, is D&D really the only system you're aware of? No BiTD? Pathfinder? CoC?
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>>97896422
For anyone else looking over this thread, I say this because the /pol/ tourist guy has only referenced D&D so far, apparently has no knowledge of or understanding of other systems or wargames, see the response to myself and several other anons talking about other systems (>>97892955, >>97885423, >>97895467) and apparently had no idea that Gary Gygax, grandfather of RPGs was himself a social conservative today considered a /chud/.
Like, you're fine to only enjoy D&D really but it's such a basic game in the end, there's way more systems discussed regularly on this board. Pathfinder has a general for a reason.
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>>97896422
>Continued pretending not to understand, projection
lol, /pol/fags really are all the same, again.
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>>97895920
>the ability for gays to get married
Pretty sure that only was a thing in FFG's version, I've only played L5R 4E and the card game from Samurai thru to the end of Ivory though. They did have people doing gay relationships in private before, but there was the whole thing about owing your lord successors for when you inevitably die a preferably violent death.
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>>97896422
He has no knowledge and no argument, that's why he has to resort to spam and autistic screeching.
>>97896508
>ctrl-f "lol"
>62 results
You seem pretty determined to convince people that you're not seething harder than everyone else in the thread combined. I feel like you ought to know that it isn't working.
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>>97896508
>Doesn't know or reference other systems outside D&D
>Just constantly responds with /pol/-tier trolling material
The 2024 election is over. Trump sucks, we get it. You can go back now. It's where you originally came from.
>>97896518
Oh yeah, I am running 5e ha. And yeah you can totally be gay down low as long as you pop out a baby for your clan. Nice that you noticed these sorts of things when the tourist didn't though.
>>97896519
It's so weird. You'd think he would know but he clearly doesn't, which is why he's resorting to stuff like "uhhhh /seethe/, lol owned"
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>>97896570
I wonder if I can inb4 the /pol/fag then declares that, in fact, I am the /pol/fag for giving him shit. Depends on the timer.
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>>97896526
Had a friend who was around from near the start of L5R and a couple other friends who were autistically into it so we did weekly games for 6 or 7 years in 4E most of which actually came to conclusions and weekly nights for the card game for a bit longer than we were playing the RPG, though I only got to do one story tournament for the card game and didn't make it far due to being a ronin player in Emperor Edition and refusing to switch to a deck that had real hopes of winning. I'm doomed to be interested whenever I see L5R mentioned now even if I haven't gotten to play it in years now, even when it's in a thread like this where I'm only here because I wanted to link the shit site rip I did and be around to seed the wikirip when it was posted.
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>>97896573
Idk man, I'm just here shitposting in an autosaging thread with a guy who has no system knowledge outside D&D.
Like, you didn't even know what L5R is, you just assumed it was /pol/ propaganda (???)
>>97896575
Maybe, worth a shot to get this guy back to the board he came from.
>>97896579
Ooh there's an l5r /tg/ discord if you're interested. We discuss the game regularly there.
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>>97896584
I'm probably too autistic for discords, but if I see a thread for it posted around here I'll be around to talk about it and will probably give in to discord eventually. I really should get around to going thru my old AEG era cards and getting them well organized for the day when my friends get nostalgic for it now that I'm talking about it again.
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>>97896588
Please tourist, go back home. It is time to ret\/rn. (Also not buying it when you called the specific setting traits of said niche system '/pol/ buzzwords')
>>97896592
Yeah, no worries. L5R is super fun, I've gotten so much out of it. I'd post the commission I made of my party but I don't know if an autosaging thread lets you upload pics haha.
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>>97896598
Image limit and bump limit are separate, for example here's the,very useless but kind of funny,guy I would have picked to get a story prize had ronin been actually viable outside of one very, very fringe deck in a fringe environment during Emperor Edition.
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>>97896608
Wait. OK here. My piece de resistance, took me like 500 buckaroonies and I'm super happy with how it turned out.
>>97896604
Shush tourist, I like yapping about L5R.
Can you please start calling me dickless the way you did with the other anons though? Technically that's more correct than calling me a 'he'.
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>>97896615
Nah man, I'm the archivefag from >>97885212, >>97887502, and >>97889819. I'm just also a L5R autist due to over exposure.
>>97896617
Nice, though it does feel weird seeing a Scorpion with their mask off, other than the junshin guys who actually didn't every wear one since they were too into bushido to do real Scorpion things.
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>>97896623
No, you literally don't get it. I'm a biological female. The only dick I've had in me is my boyfriend's.
I'm just letting you know because you seem to be so dead set on harassing the regulars you keep inconsistently swinging between "you're samef*gging" to "you're a group of /pol/ trolls"
>>97896633
Fuck yeah, L5R is the shit. I was ranting about it earlier, as you can see. And yeah, she actually wears the veil mask which implies she "failed" (she didn't), just in that particular instance they needed to wear animal masks for a certain party in Chikushudo. I had a lot of fun describing all of the other "people" acting erratically while spooking them.
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>>97896615
Yes, I would also love for the /pol/ tourist to start actually discussing games instead of insulting people. Maybe he could actually learn what L5R is?
(Also, please have a meme from the campaign, I enjoy sharing them)
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>>97896641
>No you see, I am actually a GIRL
lol, yet another unlikely claim from the /pol/fag.
>>97896643
>How dare you complain about us complaining!
lol, nothing's stopping you from playing games, instead you make outrage threads.
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>>97896641
Last game I played where we had a Scorpion he ended up murdering everyone at the very end since he had gotten the shiny new version of P'an Ku madness going around, then we moved onto do an all Crab game that had a crazy body count. I went thru 6 characters myself, the only two starting characters who made it thru were a Kaiu engineer who stayed behind fortifications and siege engines and a blind former berserker Hida duelist whose gimmick was always wearing some fancy European style full plate armor that was added to 4E as part of a tie in to the colonies in the former Ivory Kingdoms storyline.
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>>97896658
Forgot the other half of the most honorable undefeated Hida Duelist's gimmick, he never tried to strike first. He'd let the other guy hit him, fail to draw blood, and then take his full force Full Attack Stance swing at him.
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>>97896660
Sure, I'm the samef*g, whatever. Can you start calling me a woman now? Or are you going to be weird about it since I, the "samefagging /pol/ anon", am suddenly ok with being called a dickless woman? Lol
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>>97896669
Ooh, that's probably 4E and roughly around the Ivory Isles colonization arc, right? Nice nice. Sadly I'm kind of in a "always the bridesmaid, never the bride" situation. That sounds fun though. How'd your character develop the sickness?
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>>97896677
The Scorpion was fucking around with artifacts that we found while in the colonies and dealing a lot with a mix of foreigners and Fudo cultists which led him to getting exposed to some of P'an Ku's madness, he was part of the actor school that is based around having a stolen identity you pretend to be with his fake identity being a Ide trader and he had worked with the GM to have it be a thing we could find out but not be in the open, same as the madness. We found out about the being a fake, but not the madness, and kept him around because we didn't have a way to properly prove he was fake and we had an Imperial job to be doing so we just kept our noses to the grindstone to our detriment. At the end he stole one of our other party member's identities and went back to the Empire as "the only survivor" of "a dishonorable cultist assassination raid" and probably did a bunch of serial killings after.
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>>97896683
Yep, weird about it.
So I think you *do* actually grok that there's been multiple people responding to you at different times, you just don't want to accept it. Thus sometimes you'll use woman/tranny/dick as an insult (97892971, 97887816, 97892925)
and other times, like now, when the person is obviously asking to be referred to as a woman, and calls herself a ca/tg/irl, you reject it and get all weird about it and start explicitly using he/him pronouns. ( 97896588, 97896545 )
Which only goes further into my /pol/ troll theory, because someone who wasn't just trolling would probably have just self-corrected by now. But you, dude, choose to promptly swap around the insults to start calling me a man.
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See, this is why xenophobia is the Correct Solution. That sounds super super fun though.
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Has the troon's identity crisis subsided yet?
>/tg/ is for troons CHUD
>We'll flick our clittys all over your sexist space marines
>Gary Gygax was TRANS!
>You CHRISTIAN REPUBLICANS want to destroy OUR HOBBY
>Come on "/fa/tg/uys" and "ca/tg/irls"
>Lets all dilate together in an appropriated pastiche of /tg/ culture circa ten years ago
My internet has been choppy, but It was a mercy or I'd have probably been in this thread watching man-hands have a spack attack about "Chuds" existing, but anyway I really like this here Falevor armored Wagon.
Because it is a Boot.
Praise Boot.
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>>97896710
It was very fun, none of us were even mad about the ending being us all sitting down for a drink after barely making out of a fight with some cultist group and then going to sleep for the night never to wake again with the last scene being the Scorpion now wearing all of the Ikoma's stuff looking shellshocked in the back of a cart heading to the Second City to hop a boat back home. It was a surprisingly satisfying ending to a year or so of weekly games.
Had a lot of fun with my Usagi Bushi during that one, love the minor clan schools a lot generally speaking, doing lots of high risk leaping into bad situations. Ironically I was using my Lore: Kolat to bully the fake Ide with my suspicions about him being one of the Kolat conspiracy merchants since that was a pretty common stereotype at the time that the player was partly playing into to help cover his actually being a Scorpion and actually being afflicted by P'an Ku.
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>>97896735
>n-no u
Man, /pol/fags can't even no-u right
>>97896738
>Seething about trannies when declaring himself a tranny didn't work
lol, /pol/'s gonna /pol/
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>>97896738
I've deduced he's from /pol/ himself, desu. Zero knowledge outside the currently normie-popular D&D, with little to no deeper knowledge on that system, and he deflects when people accuse him of it by saying we're 'purity testing' and 'not understanding' and 'projecting' etc etc. But he still never goes much deeper than surface level culture war stuff.
Also it's fun to just repeat his weird sayings back at him desu. I'm doing it in between watching youtube videos/working on my next session.
>>97896748
Funny, I had an npc character who was also a Scorpion (Shosuro) pretending to be an Ide Trader. She was the Scorpion PC's Cool, Sexy Aunt archetype.
>>97896757
Damn, did me copying your "no u" get you that assblasted to reply twice?
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>>97896757
I declared myself a tranny?
News to me.
Frankly, I think you must have your antipsychotics mixed up with your cross-sex hormones.
You leftoids are all mentally ill after all.
It's how you control territory; you move in, shit all over the floor, and all the sane people leave, then you move onto the next thing to ruin.
Go on, I dare you to sniff your dilator.
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>>97896772
Ah, related to that I think the pol tourist is talking about me. I've been trying to get him to call me a woman (since I am one lol) for a bit but he's been weird about it. See:
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>>97896772
>M-muh leftoids
lol, /pol/fag's gonna /pol/
>>97896765
>Seething about getting caught samefagging, baffled as to the idea of multiple peple
lol, seethe harder I guess.
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>>97896765
I'm a dyed in the wool Hitler enjoyer so I don't think you can boil down /pol/ as only liking D&D slop since I hate that shit and most chuds I know also hate D&D and prefer other systems. He is probably a generic rage baiter.
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You have no minis.
/tg/ stands for Traditional Games, not TransGender.
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>>97896781
Maybe if you say 'seethe harder' a full dozen times, you'll get a stamp.
>>97896784
Eh, yeah but whatever he is, he isn't a native to the board. Especially considering he definitely doesn't seem to know about any other systems.
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>>97896784
It's humorous to me that you guys occasionally make the SHOCKING realization that I'm shitting on you for -your- politics.
>>97896795
>Please, please stop telling me to seethe harder
lol
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>>97896765
Ide Trader is a good one to pretend to be honestly, they're filthy moneyfags so they get lots of time to themselves since the bushi, shugenja, and courtiers want to distance themselves from their mercantile ventures.
I had a Tortoise Clan Kasuga Smuggler that took advantage of being a filthy merchant to get alone time for making gunpowder and maintaining his pistol imported from the Kingdom of Merenae thru the secretand Imperially approvedKasuga ports on Kameyama Jima. I got to shoot a mahotsukai in the face before she could sacrifice the twinky Doji Apologist to try to summon an Oni, still got killed for doing it since the whole Gaijin Powder being illegal as fuck thing and the Kitsuki Investigator being very into his role as a lawfully minded detective.
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>>97896802
Buddy, if you're keeping count, you started WAY late.
>>97896804
>Please, please stop paying me as much effort as I deserve
lol, next time don't out yourself as a /pol/fag so early.
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>>97896804
That might be the case, desu. A few times now, he's mentioned 'downvoting' which just isn't a thing on any 4chan board but is on Reddit. Yet he keeps calling people /pol/f*gs.
Like here: >>97896489 >>97895274
>>97890304
When I called him on it, he immediately pivoted with, "uh, you just don't understand my insult" which...wasn't an insult that made sense in the first place. So a lot of this is just weird. Maybe a lost bot? The /tg/ l5r discord seems to think so too.
>>97896808
Super, super based. Fuck that Kitsuki though, aren't those guys into bending the overly strict laws of Rokugan?
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>>97896823
Eh, I respected the Kitsuki's lawtism to a point and mostly blamed myself for not hiding the gun better due to the panic of the situation. He was worried ninjas would get gunpowder if any one instance of it going undealt with was allowed, which is just part of the Kitsuki Family Autism™. And the Kitsuki thing, in original pre-FFG L5R at least, was mostly being the only guys into the concept of evidence based investigation over testimony based investigations.
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>>97896840
Hm, might be the case that different editions emphasized different things. I just more remember Kitsuki being presented as the more avant garde type.
>>97896804
Interestingly, there are a fair number of posts he seems to have missed in his weird tourist trolling spree, even if they directly attack him. Unsure about the link yet, ah well.
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>>97896795
he's not a 4chan native at all, just another discord raider trying to lump every group he wants silenced on the internet into the bogeyman of the board he's currently invading.
>hmm, i hate those fucking chuds... I'll say they're the 80s fundies that attacked dnd! that will make /tg/ take my side!
deranged thinking but he gives it away by constantly referring to himself as "we" and "us." it's an embarrassingly naked attempt to fabricate consensus.
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>>97831907
If you're really curious, this is the thread where he started his crash out. People used the line "STOP REMEMBERING WHAT WE DID" and that somehow set him off, he's been doing it for days now.
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>>97897241
It is funny how the faggot tranny mods and jannies just let schizos like this go on a rampage and ravage thread after thread and spam posts but if you even posit a claim in an off handed manner about how Hitler had legitimate points and wasn't literally the concept of evil made manifest they throw the book at you and send you on vacation for "trolling" or "racism" or "off topic" even if it is relevant to the thread. So many of the boards about western media are like this now.
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>>97879251
>I hope we can all agree didn't need to be quite so sexualized
God I fucking hate trannies so much.
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>>97897328
You know what's funny? Scrolling through this thread I see about three people who posted miniatures. The pictures are all in posts communicating hatred of left-wing politics, transexuals, and such individuals. Exactly zero of them were from people expressing left-wing sentiments or sympathy for transexuals. By the content of this thread I declare that you have no right to bitch about frogposting, or any kind of posting for that matter, and I will frogpost again. 41% yourself.
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>>97897337
oh, also
>Immediately red herrings away from the bet
lol
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>>97897331
Make that 4. I fucking hate the left wing and their political shittery and the damage they have done to my hobby.
Bonus points that they are so retarded they have tried to claim the MoC as a tranny haven and written clanners as using they/them pronouns.
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>>97897368
It's very convincing when a new party appears at the tail end of a long past post limit thread immediately after someone who agrees with him declares he's leaving forever.
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>>97897368
I would say 'post minis' but we both ken you dinnae have any. Assuming your not a bot, your just another member of the rainbow cults culture war horde and you lack anything more than a surface level understanding of the hobbies your trying to claim ownership of
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>>97897385
>/pol/fag seething about SJWs, again
lol, you fags are identical. I wonder when you're going to have the SHOCKING realization that I have no love for the people I told to fuck off for several years straight.
>Please, PLEASE submit to my purity checks! Me, the invader!
lol, shoulda tried that before you posted a frog.
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>>97897384
I've been here all thread, I was the one who made >>97887259 >>97887277, and a few others mostly referencing the 1d6 owners refusal to allow access to the archives and how Nechronica is hosted on the same platform as 1d6 so the "mug lolis had to go" claim is bullshit.
I've had to sleep since then.
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>>97897389
Just post minis, man. Or hobby books, if your in any /tg/ hobbies that should be trivial
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>>97897395
>Why are you doing this to meeeee
lol, try not to go seething in public if my gentle ministrations drive you to this.
>>97897396
Very convincing.
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>>97897403
>Very convincing
I'm lazy so I'm not crawling the thread for all my posts.
>>97897404
It's not a purity check, it's evidence.
(You) have claimed to be an enjoyed of the hobby and that this is an inherently lefty hobby.
Numerous others that you have decried as 'chuds' and 'polfags', including myself, have stated otherwise and have posted minis and shown themselves to be actual participants in /tg/ hobbies.
The onus is now on you to prove that you too enjoy /tg/ hobbies. Thus far you have failed to do so or even demonstrate more than a skim of the surface of knowledge about the hobby.
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>>97897417
No, I more claimed that it is disgusting for you to claim it is anything OTHER than a lefty hobby after your decades of claiming it's a lefty hobby.
A fine distinction that I actually can forgive you for missing.
No, you violently DEMANDED it be leftist, and now I'm forcing you to stick with it, along with your children, and your children's children, all the way down the line.
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>>97897432
Those sentences aren't contradictory at all, you retard, you're just an ESL. Some kind of negroid perhaps.
>It was NEVER politicized until the ESSJAWDUBYA
lol, and back into /pol/fag seething lies you go.
Try not spending 50 years declaring something liberal if you don't want people reminding you of it.
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>>97897462
If the choice is a machine glitching out or a human having a stroke but still typing for this long I go for Occam's razor and declare it is more likely you are a bot that cannot pass the Turing test.
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>>97897432
There was some politics but it was tame and good natured. Now it is just one sided with megacorps just fucking blasting you with propaganda and trying to ban you for saying "now wait a minute"
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>>97896900
I don't like saying slurs. Unlike some people.
>>97896980
Fair.
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>>97897312
I'm not showing off my tits lol. Have a pic of my excessively masculine hand/wrist though.
>>97897331
I'm the anon who was L5R posting. Went to sleep for a bit and came back--and apparently the tourist has been fighting the lonely fight for a bit.
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>>97897417
He never will but I can predict his response. "Uh, no you're just puritytesting LOL invader! You just don't understand, I actually know thousands of RPG systems, I've been HERE FROM THE BEGINNING SEETHE CHUD SEETHE"
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>>97897583
>I don't like saying slurs. Unlike some people.
Utter hubris from a fool who dares preach morality here. Where do you think you are? A curse upon you and your wretched house.
Be blighted, whore, evermore, and may your days be ever grey.
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>>97897627
To be fair, someone put up their mega archive earlier too, so hopefully the old 1d6 can be preserved and there's no need for further arguing. I personally have zero stake in that fight, I was just here to watch the tourist freak out at various people.
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>>97897321
I bought an old tool box from my mate's ex girlfriend's mother for eleven quid (she asked a tenner, I gave her a quid extra) which was full of early 90's warhammer and heroquest bitz.
The Fimir were the prize for me, but it had old Beastmen, the old "Helmgart Bowmen" on an big green multi-slotta, old Wolf Riders, Empire Knights, and a couple of really ancient lizardmen.
Best wargaming purchase I ever made.
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Why do /pol/troons always pretend like their ultimate goal isn't to ban tabletop games like they did in the 80s? Just look at this board.
>you shouldn't play freakshit, it's woke (woke is the current replacement for satanic)
OK we banned freakshit, only humans now
>you shouldn't be playing that system, it's woke
OK we stopped playing that system, we only play your system of choice.
>you shouldn't allow magic users, they're woke
OK it's all pure martials now.
>actually you shouldn't even play games, playing games is woke, you should go to church instead
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>>97897732
the funniest part is when it looped back round to anons discussing RPGs. and even the angry Scotch man posted some cool minis.
i mostly lurk nowadays (tfw nogames) but somewhere in all this noise i suggested bringing back the old rage threads. it was like a Two Minutes Hate some of you guys clearly need.
maybe the internet has changed, maybe we're all older, maybe we simply can't have nice things. but i remember laughing my arse off when you lot used to share Twilight extracts and terrible FATAL rules and so on.
whatever your stripes, i hope all your days (and games) go well. you're still one of the better boards on 4chan, /tg/.
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>>97897419
>and now I'm forcing you to stick with it
i love when they reveal that this is about feeling like they have power over something
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>>97897480
I slept last night.
I came back in the morning and you were still here rolling around in your own shit, and engaging in extravagant fantasism that you are fighting for the survival of tabletop games.
I live and breathe this shit.
I'm also a huge Chud.
Deal with it nigga.
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>>97897627
The conversation ended with >>97879251, all subsequent discussion before the retard showed up was mostly just censorship apologists failing to correct the record (usually by outright lying). If he thinks he can distract from the 1d6 admins' faggotry by being an even bigger faggot then he's in for a nasty surprise when he realizes this isn't the first thread we've had about this and it won't be the last.
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>>97898669
he can't change the fact that people don't give a fuck about 1d6. their fag admin ruined any chance at /tg/ appreciating it like we did 1d4. you simply cannot inorganically coopt a community. you can drown it out, but the original members will never be conquered. that makes them upset for some reason.
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>>97897634
I'm just here to watch the transphobic /pol/ tourist sperg out about chuds "invading" the board, I haven't been the one moralizing.
That was a baller speech + pic though. Warhammer enthusiast I assume?
>>97897944
Yeah it was nice to talk a bit about L5R and hear about what was going on in other campaigns. I'd "almost joined" two campaigns but both ended up falling through so I vicariously read them while running for my friends.
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>>97897528
>Please, PLEASE stop pointing out I am unable to read! Let me go back to demanding purity tests!
lol
>>97897588
>I can predict his response, it will be the response he has used against me like 12 times
lol, real brain blast out here
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>>97898630
>Please, PLEASE stop reminding me of the past!
lol, seethe harder
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>>97898669
>/pol/fags seething about the website they themselves can alter for free
Tell me about how it's like 1984 again.
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>>97896269
>Jesus christ, conservatives really DO take credit for every liberal achievement.
>checks responded post >>97885444
>Has there EVER been a tabletop game conservatives approved of that wasn't generated entirely out of spite?
????
learn to read nigga
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ATTENTION:
Many of you have not posted minis,
failing to post minis while talking about the is secondary/tourist shit
please post all minis and your alignment.
so far it appears to be
Chuds 2
Faggots 0
please might all parties here prove they do in fact games.
and while we're here discuss wargames.
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>>97899796
>/pol/fag can't even follow a conversation
lol
>>97899828
>Please, PLEASE stop pointing out the things I've done! Look, I'm even going to post some images I found online!
lol
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>>97899828
It's humorous how this guy seethed about manufacturing consensus, then proceeded to attempt to manufacture consensus.
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>>97899882
>this schizo babble
I'm not that guy buddy.
I haven't posted minis either for the reasons >>97899971
I just want minis, post minis.
literally just post minis to own the chuds, it's that easy.
also >>97899971
you gotta start somewhere, if you got some cheapies just sit down and try a technique.
I've got to paint like 40 orcs for a campaign soon, just give it a go, i believe anon.
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>>97900037
i bought the Reaper Miniatures starter set. three minis, brushes, paints.
after scrubbing blotchy paint off the skeleton warrior with Fairy Power Spray for the third time, i gave the whole kit away to a lass who used to go out with a girl in the year below me at school.
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>>97900052
>this guy
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>>97899828
Minis aren't the only /tg/ thing. Honestly if you still play modern warhammer you are more likely to be a troon or tourist than someone who actually likes games.
I think VTT screenshots are more valuable, which I won't share because fuck you anyway
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>>97900096
>I think VTT screenshots are more valuable
this is a very weird opinion.
but i did spend countless hours aligning some old-school maps to the Roll20 grid. you THINK you can just set the image resolution to be 70 pixels to the square, but nah.
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>>97900112
Not all of us have that luxury, I wish I could but everyone I know in person is a fucking flake.
>>97900116
Roll20 is shit. I use foundry and haven't looked back.
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>>97900096
>playing games is proof you don't actually like games
Deranged cope.
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>>97900145
Painting miniatures isn't actually proof you play games, it just means you like modelling, which is fair enough, but modelling is more a /toy/ thing than a /tg/ thing which is about GAMES. You don't need models to play the game.
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>>97900065
if you ever do pick it up, try either the slap chop or the drybrush/wash technique.
they're not fancy, and pretty quick to learn and the results are reasonably good for the effort put in.
It's very important to feel the feedback early to feel good about what you're doing before experimenting.
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>>97900143
>Roll20 is shit.
oh god it's all coming back to me. i just logged in for the first time in 5+ years, and had to 'reactivate' a bunch of shit.
i remember cobbling together this one-shot of Winter's Daughter (Old-School Essentials). there wasn't any official character sheet yet, so i 'made' this one (sheet = Dyson Logos, horribly-misaligned HTML/CSS = mine).
i was quite happy with this little choose-your-token title screen. but then the players didn't want to map, so the maps were just the ones from the book.
fun little game with pals, but then i got too addicted to drugs to continue it.
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>>97900096
>modern warhammer
bud you don't have minis, and you failed to reckon with the fact that there's a million different games that aren't warhammer.Hell allot of people use them for TTRPG.
It seems to me you get your opinions from other people because you sound fucking ignorant as hell when it comes to minis.
>i think random screenshots are better but i'm not going to show them.
okay well you're not being the allegations,
>>97900317
They had a dataleak back during that time, if you're not doing proper op-sec i advise looking for other places you have that old password.
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>>97900336
I do have minis I just stopped working on them because no one in person wants to play and because modern warhammer is a joke
Again, you don't need minis for TTRPGs or wargames. You can literally use coins or papercut outs or just go full theatre of the mind. I used minis in person too, but that proves nothing about games. It just proves you paint and model
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>>97900336
>They had a dataleak back during that time
ohh yeah i remember the email, but thanks for the heads up. so they were just storing passwords as plaintext?
my goal was always to make games as trve to the tabletop as possible. draw your own maps, roll the 3D dice (they're fun), do your own calculations.
turns out when you put tabletop games on a screen, everyone suddenly goes nuts for macros and tokens and lighting effects. maybe Foundry and the others are better, but Roll20 never felt right to me. and it broke. a lot.
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>>97900278
>Painting miniatures isn't actually proof you play games
>it shows that you do modelling which erm means that i actually care more about gaming.
okay so what if i just greytide?
do i care more or less than you?
Someone with minis cares enough to store fucking fiddly resin minis in their home for the sole purpose of playing this one game with nerds.
>>97900346
>I do have minis
POST THEM
>modern warhammer is a joke
Define modern warhammer. when did you start, what did you play, when did you leave? which warhammer?
there are so many fucking vagaries.
>you don't need minis
nobody, i do mean nobody who has played a wargame particularly one before modern warhammer would say something so monstrously stupid.
i don't think you play wargames, i don't think you understand wargamers.
you sound like a tourist.
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>>97900360
>so they were just storing passwords as plaintext?
Something like that, could just be a bad encryption method, i'm not smart in that area.
>lighting
i actually did something like that for a mechwarrior game and it was a bitch to set up, but it was worth it. different programme though can't remember it.
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>>97898853
Already dating someone, sorry.
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Did this tourist really just make 6 posts in a row within 3 minutes? And I'm supposed to be the seething one...
>>97899828
Sadly not really a wargamer, like I said. I am working on a droid project, though. I'll be using paints intended for minatures because I'm planning on using it all up. By the way, Citadel? Vallejo? I'm printing on PLA plastic and using Vallejo primer ideally. I need to find an orange, a yellow, and a black (Its name will be MSE-6-B33) Have any tips?
>>97899965
Nah, I just think leftist trolls being bigoted themselves is amusing.
>>97900052
There's been multiple people here, anon...
>>97900096
I use Foundry -> Forge for my games. Works pretty well so far.
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>>97900430
True, true, I forgot, we're actually all just different schizo personalities of the same guy, Everyone Is John style.
By the way, when is dinner ready? I thought >>97900391 was cooking for us this time.
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>>97900420
>primer
If it's PLA you might want one with slight filler, i remember a youtuber who does 3d printing outline that.
I'll try and figure it out, that said i think WEP might be better to ask overall because i'm not good. i've got little time so i go for quick and dirty techniques.
for paints i generally suggest vallejo, but you're going for a larger surface area it might be better to grab like army painter or even a standard acrylic and water it down.
the colours you got are harder ones but the advice i got was the following:
For yellow, usually people start with a white base, paint the white pink and then give it a thin couple layers yellow. like basically a contrast paint. whites and light colours as a rule of thumb can come off very chalky. it's important to do the ground work and then get it down and never touch it.
Black, well actually i suggest darth black from GSW, now it's black, it's extremely black, so black that it can be hard to see the details. it's legally distinct vantablack
alternatively a solid contrast black might do the job, or highlight a black basecoat with grey, depends on what you need.
orange is just built up from a red base. I've not had to paint anything orange for some fucking reason. i want my orcs to be halloweeny because they're from angmar so i'll be attempting orange and purple that, if the threads still up i might report back.
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Well, it's supposed to be a little thing (and is very small, it comes up to my lower calf and I'm about 5"2--so I think I won't need *that* much paint.
Something that's a little more greyish-black is probably up my alley as well. I was looking at something like Pig Iron from P3? My problem is that I've been kind of awkwardly pasting together the parts as I've been getting it, so some parts of the plastic are differently colored and hard to reach for coloring (the grid panel you see has a fan mount on the other side which is an orange color, sadly I already epoxyed it in there so I gotta figure out how to wiggle a paintbrush into those tiny gaps). I've been considering using a spraycan or an airbrush but the mini black spraycan color selection is limited and I don't have an airbrush.
Also, got it...I have some filler on it already, and will be sanding it soon. The prints themselves are fairly smooth, I don't think that there will be much 'roughness' that will be a problem there.
I think I was planning on having the paint layered over the OG primer so I can do the painter's tape peel-away trick for straight lines.
Yellow -> Orange -> Black.
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>>97900537
>I think I was planning on having the paint layered over the OG primer so I can do the painter's tape peel-away trick for straight lines.
oh yeah that's a tried and true tactic.
Particularly for scale modelers doing like camo, I've heard blue tack works as well.
priming it white or yellow is likely the best starting point.
A greyish black, you might want one of the contrast/speed paints, i've not tried vallejo's express black.
alternatively a simple abbadon black with mechanicum standard grey is a solid base, and highlight.
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>>97900391
>okay so what if i just greytide?
Why do you equate traditional games with just minis and wargaming?
You are coming at this from a just completely incorrect position.
>POST THEM
No, I don't use them and am not digging them out
>define modern warhammer
Funny you say this because I started joining in around when it became trash. I only got like half a year before 8th came out. Honestly even when I joined it wasn't as good as it's prime, looking back through older stuff I think 3rd/4th was 40k at it's best. Before HH fag shit and marine wank got way too overboard I hear that was when Fantasy was at it's best too in those years, but I couldn't say.
>i don't think you play wargames, i don't think you understand wargamers.
I could never get people in my area to play even when I was in on it. I played like 2 games total.
And again, you are equating /tg/ soley with tabletop. Where is that image of soldiers in the middle east literally playing using rocks? Models are nice but they are fundamentally not the core of any table top game. You can make a makeshift board and pieces, or even cards. The rules are key.
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>>9790081
I don't feel like going line by line because this is laughable, so i won't.
Talking minis in /tg/ is entirely correct and it's fucking retarded that you believe otherwise, even you have minis, you admitted it.
When it comes to warhammer you gave a crowd sourced answer without any fucking responses of your own. this is just buzzwords you learned here. you played two games. you sound like a tourist who picked up a starter a starter and dumped it when the dopamine dropped.
And i do not care how much peusdo intellectual bullshit you're going to shit out. They are core to wargamming and they're a part of the /tg/ experience.
They're both an avenue for artistic expression and satisfying to have. when i see my little guys on the table, painted by me, laid out and ready for combat it's wonderful. when one of my little guys does something great i'll paint him a bit differently to remember him i dunno soloing a ork dreadnought or slaying the witchking (seriously, dude 1v1 the witch king on a fellbeast, full stats) or doming an enemy sniper in a duel with nothing but a popgun.
Armies are like characters. they start with an idea, and they evolve as you add to them, the flaws and triumphs of your games, each mini a character as much as your dice can be.
I play wargames like everyone does, to enjoy an evening with people, drink and laugh at stupid fucking shit that happened, to tell a story as much as dnd does.
where are you stories? where is your interest.
you call people nogames but all i see is empty chan bullshit.
statements that have been chewed up and spit down your throat by other people.
what is the you here?
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>>97900903
erm, yikes! why would i have beliefs of my own when amalgamating the beliefs of others is sure to secure me the most approval and by extension access to resources? you sound like someone about to be shunned from the hecking tribe, my man!
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>>97900908
oh don't worry, you unwittingly linked the right post.
>>97900903
this is actually quite nice but i'll admit, i don't understand your hostility. anon's point is clearly that there are other avenues than the ones you're describing. we've had examples like VTTs, paper minis, or just using your ~imagination~!
>>97900910
who gatekeeps the gatekeepers?
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>>97900683
Hmm, how would you apply the Abbadon/Mechanum colors? Paint the grey onto the primer, then the black more lightly on top for a 'weathered' look?
I was also looking into more tactics for weathering, but mostly cosplay tutorial types.
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>>97900903
Minis are /tg/ but /tg/ isn't minis. They are a visual representation of rules, nothing more. It doesn't make you more or less of a player than someone who doesn't have them but plays the same amount of games as you. Honestly dice are more important than minis for 99% of /tg/ rpgs and wargames.
Minis are neat things to have but they aren't core to anything. You can play without them. They are basically a status symbol and nothing more.
>where are you stories? where is your interest.
In the games I run, not in the models I can barely use in person. I never called anyone nogames, all I am saying is that minis prove nothing about how many games you actually play. It just proves that you like modeling. Nothing can really prove how much you play unless you record your sessions. EVen if you spend all your time plainning for a TTRPG that doesn't mean the players will reach everything you plan or there will be a 1:1 conversion rate.
It is as dumb as people who think posting an image is proof of not samefagging when you can literally tick a box in 4chanx to fake whatever you want
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>>97900942
>i don't understand your hostility.
honestly it's a bit heavy handed but i think it serves the point, the man doesn't understand it but he's making very clear judgments on it.
Here's where i have the biggest issue,
Imagination great an all but if we're going to strip back everything i could and should be writing right now.
Wargaming is a pageant for your toy soldiers. its a chance to express yourself in the way you might as a character. i could imagine anything but it's the interaction that's important there is something less, something lessened by doing so else we'd all have switched to TTS
It's like meeting in person, there is an intractable, inexpressible quality of meeting in person that talking online doesn't have.
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>>97900984
Truly poignant
Playing with minis without rules is just a kid playing with a figure. It's /toy/, not /tg/. What serperates them is the rules. Playing with rules and no minis is still /tg/. In fact, many card games and TTRPGS require ZERO minis. Crazy, that.
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>>97900986
>Wargaming is a pageant for your toy soldiers
Fundamentally incorrect. Unless you are smashing them together like a child with action figures, you are following a structured system with rules. The models are a visual representation for the setting and for units but that is all they are. They can be replaced.
A setting isn't defined by minis, it is defined by the story.
A system isn't defined by minis, it is defined by the rules.
There is no /tg/ system for which minis cannot be replaced.
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are you >>97901022 this guy >>97900973
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>>97901022
nobody with minis does that and the vast majority of people playing games use minis to do so. you're describing abstract absolutes that aren't reflective of reality, like some fag giving me a cup of ice after I asked for some water and then telling me I should've been more specific.
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>>97901049
people who don't play games are the loudest about them here. And now to address him,
>b-but i have v-virtu-
no you don't, fag, you're less tolerable online than in person and you already admitted your real life "friends" have no interest in your interests.
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>>97901049
GW had been turned into a sales focused corperate entity by then.
5th retcons for a lot of shit was purely to drive model sales as well.
>>97901047
I literally own tabletop minis for TTRPGs and don't use them more than I use them because people only want to play online. Somehow I am "lesser" than you because of this?
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>>97901072
>no you don't
Luckily for you I am working on it right now so it isn't inconvenient to screenshot it.
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>>97900973
Okay well this >>97901043 clinches it.
my man over here is 1000% right >>97901047 and i think this gotten so obviously stupid and fake that it ruins my suspension of disbelief.
I can't use this to ignore my worries
Anon, 1. your big answer to me saying "wargaming is a pageant for your minis" is to scream no, stomp your feet and say gw was gay in 2010 when you don't know shit about about anything.
2. you're literally just objectively wrong and habitually dishonest.
Also yeah, the setting was literally defined by the minis, the sculpts came first and then rick wrote the setting around it according to the interviews i watched.
Kev Adams has contributed more to Orcs and Goblins culturally then you really know.
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>>97901141
To me you just sound like someone desperate to justify your purchases. Which is fine, but they aren't necessary to PLAY THE GAME.
The first minis for warhammer were just D&D ripoffs that they wanted to make a game around, hence warhammer fantasy. You know-nothing.
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>>97901167
>they aren't required.
in the abstract no, in the abstract you don't need to play TTPRGs with maps or dice or character sheets or other people. you don't even need rules if you rhetorically boil it down to the barest nub of it's meaning. there are games like this, see hillfolk.
but you do, why? because it adds something, something important, something you as someone who doesn't play wargames seems extremely willing to assume is not a requirement.
I expect you to play your next session without a map or dice.
also
>dnd rip offs blah blah blah blah
who, what are you even quoting and what are you trying to say
are you playing motte and bailey about this being HAVING TO HAVE THE EXACT RTB01L OR ELSE IT'S WRONG? You know Rick Priestly literally said they made warhammer because they saw people buying GW's minis for OTHER "TRADITIONAL WARGAMES" and they wanted to compete.
GW at the time was a part publisher, war games, indie ones were often getting made during that period, lots of small ideas being rattled off, reminds me i should go pick up laserburn, they still make the minis
and oddly Asgard minis (ie the forebare to citadel) is still being sold.
it's a very good racket, it's why i say you are stupid and regurgitating opinions from elsewhere, if you know anything about Byran you know GW was always sales focused.
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>>97901257
>you don't need to play TTPRGs with maps or dice
You at least need dice for most. You are correct though in that for some you need nothing. But minis are the most superficial part of the hobby. They are nice if you want to support the creators and want to show your literal investment into a game, but they fundamentally are not necessary whatsoever.
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>>97901257
>what are you trying to say
Warhammer didn't make their own minis with original lore for quite some time until after they were getting the kinks out of their system. They were just using generic shit until that point. So minis """defining the setting""" is a retarded argument. It was always a process where they fed into one anothe, but the lore guys first and foremost had to come up with something original for a mini to be made of it
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>>97901101
this looks neat, good job anon. maybe a tiny bit linear? depends on your game, but i like me some more loops in dungeons.
>>97901257
i read this post in Xavier's voice, and i recommend you all do the same.
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>>97901318
It was leading to a big boss so I couldn't have many loops. Also my players tend to not like loops they are all cretins who get lost easily. I usually can't use any real puzzles either, just fischer price shit
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>>97901292
You understand that "until they were getting the kinks out of their system" was like what 3rd ed. i'm going off of rick priestly here, the perries, kev or whoever would make a mini and he's be scuttling around to get the fluff written up for it around it.
sculpts came first.
They were given a concept, a market to tap into or a project someone wanted to do, writing slave filled in the rest.
>but but but asgard minis made generic fantasy and they repurposed it
nigga they repurposed a lot.
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>>97901336
>You understand that "until they were getting the kinks out of their system" was like what 3rd ed
Yes. Which is why I say that 3rd-4th was the peak of Warhammer. The first real cohesive vision and lots of hard work went into making it like that.
>i'm going off of rick priestly here, the perries, kev or whoever would make a mini and he's be scuttling around to get the fluff written up for it around it.
As I recall the Nagash mini story was that the mini sculpting people would intentionally do dumb shit, so I don't think the mini team had full control. The lore guys had big say on how things were. Again it was a team effort, neither side did """more"""
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>>97901285
nothing is by that metric.
That's why i asked you why are you making dungeon maps, you don't NEED those, they're superficial.
you can do it right now, next session, run it like hillfolk.
maybe there's something intrinsic to the game that these elements provide?
holy fuck have you really talked yourself into this stupid ass arguement
oh for the love of god >>97901352
>the nagash
I've heard conflicting reports on nagash. i know for a fact that the big Chorf hats are the Perries fighting with Byran Ansell.
but i don't think your logic actually tracks
>director demands line
>line is created with enough autonomy from the sculptors
>Rick, by his own account comes in and builds around what was made.
this is him, his statement. this is not him belittling his contribution it's his describing the process.
you made the statement
>lore first, models second
when the interviews i've seen suggests the lore/rules came last in the process according the the lore writer him-fucking-self
And fuck anon, you pointed out that the minis came first, they were dnd alternatives that they decided to build a game set around
sounds like you defeated your fucking point retard.
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>>97895285
Problem with your argument is that
>your favourite website (Twitter, Tumblr, whatever)
Usually use public forum laws to get around the fact they are constantly hosting actually illegal content and so the government doesn't shut them down.
But if they're a US public forum, then no, they can't have "rules" that violate the first amendment. And hate speech is protected speech, so.. sucks to suck, you have to deal with racists or all the websites should be shut down completely
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>>97895375
We already went over this, D&D and most of the great games that started this hobby were made by libertarians and borderline fascists.
I supposed you've heard the term kreigspeil, right? a genre of wargaming developed by the Prussian Army, pretty much started wargaming??
What about D&D? Invented by a libertarian Gary Gygax.
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>>97901814
yeah it basically sucks either way around tbqh. who should the onus be on? hosting services? webmasters? the state?
my understanding is the First Amendment applies only to state actors, so they can't censor the press etc.
i dunno what the inverse is, e.g. 'can my business refuse to serve a _____ person?' but my Star Wars website can ban any and all Star Trek discussion. mention the series AT ALL and i hope u got 10bux, son.
my point is that people now (particularly younger people) view 'my tweets were deleted' as something more than 'a forum deleted my posts'. we've all been banned from websites, forums, and chatrooms for stupid reasons. one time, i didn't credit a guy when i used his Mega Man sprite edits. well i say that was a transformative work, fair use. i'm just as valid as any racist!
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>>97901824
Honestly dude, just letting the /pol/ tourist seethe in the background while people actually talk about stuff has been pretty cathartic. He just wants to get a rise out of you, like he tried to do with me here: 97901712
It's funny to watch him schizobabble in the background while everyone who actually has something important to say talks over or ignores him.
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>>97901877
i see, makes sense.
i'm for a free and open internet as much as anyone, those Free Software Foundation guys were right about everything in ways i could never have anticipated. but i'd like the internet to become 'decentralised' again, which seems to be a common opinion (thousands of websites, instead of just five or six).
some accelerationist part of me hopes Discord does something really shitty next. imagine if one company somehow owned all of IRC, it had to go through their servers, you had to use their client, etc. hurry up and ban nipples, Discord Inc. then we can heal.
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>>97901941
OK, whatever you say.
>>97901908
I wish the EFF wasn't so cowardly they kept bowing to other political (read: leftist) actors. Like they had a good point with the Kiwifarms shutdown going way beyond messing with registrars and such but because there was such a huge backlash from the usual crowd they never really touched on the topic again.
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>>97901958
yeah 'internet libertarianism' (or whatever you want to call it) feels like it should be the most straightforward thing ever. actually an 'all sides' issue. could be Stormfront, could be Marxists.org. fire up those lawyers, EFF.
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>>97902028
I wasn't even participating in the original discussion to begin with, though. I popped in once a few days ago while the main "discussion" was happening to roll my eyes at all the culture warriors and then after everything autosaged and, I assume, everyone went off to lick their wounds, to poke at the guy who kept ranting for days about "/pol/f*gs" despite being just incorrect.
L5R is a big hobby of mine I love talking about with various people, I should honestly make another thread on it ha.
>>97902033
It should be! Sadly a lot of it has been throughly infected with politics and tribalism.
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>>97902075
No but I was reminded about how much I enjoyed it? And there hasn't been one on the board for a while.
IDK about your argument with respect to classical conditioning anyway. Because it's like--if two people are arguing but one person is kind of just sealioning enough for the other person to get frustrated and give up the argument, is that really just 'conditioning'?
Is the sealion the one who 'won' when the person making the argument throws up their hands?
To be fair, I'm not exactly a psychology expert or anything.
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>>97902101
Fair. L5R is genuinely such a cool game, I owe it to my Discord group to come up with one for once. And for the archivef*g guy who likes using it.
I should spread the knowledge of it around, I sadly don't know how to make a good thread starter for it however. Any advice?
Ultimately I think my problem with the "/pol/f*g" guy is I hate people trying to be gatekeepy and disingenuous. Like *he* knows just as well as *I* know that there are multiple types of conservative movements out there, just like there's multiple types of liberal ones. Hell, I see all the time where leftists get steamed about being associated with "neoliberals" and all that. They're not the same ideology at all.
Also him just saying core elements of the setting which I love very much are just "buzzwords" set me off a bit. Now I'm more chill, ha.
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>>97902142
IDK, leftists have good ideas sometimes (even if im more of a chud), it's usually just in the execution of it. I can even somewhat understand why 1d6chan changed what it did even if I disagree. I definitely wouldn't have disagreed enough to argue with them about it, probably just support the wiki replicating the old style.
The whole argument there just felt really dumb which is why I didn't participate. Reading the other anons pivot into arguing about wargames being /tg/ or not was cool though, and much more productive. Also reading the l5r stories...
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>>97902172
>IDK, leftists have good ideas sometimes (even if im more of a chud), it's usually just in the execution of it.
it's liberals and authoritarians. they always both have good ideas. authoritarians make the tribe safe until the threat is gone and they're overbearing, then liberals make the life better until they go too far and it decays and threats emerge, then...
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>>97902182
Anon, you might be new here, so let me explain.
The rules of engagement for political shitflinging on 4chan are that everyone is personally responsible for the worst excesses of any group they happen to be associated with.
This occurs even when a party has nothing to do with either group.
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>>97902189
When referring to them in a slur-like way like tr*nny, then yeah.
>>97902195
Not new here (although I haven't come back to this board in a while) , just thought people would be a bit better than that.
>>97902192
Yeah, the whole good times -> soft men meme lol. There is some truth to that, which is why our political pendulum keeps swinging.
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>>97902204
>tr*nny
>not new here
kek, goodbye anon
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>>97902204
>When referring to them in a slur-like way like tr*nny, then yeah.
true, just joshing you anon.
also /tg/ was the first place where i heard the whole 'using a slur as harmless shitposting de-fangs it' thing, funnily enough. stop self-censoring yo.
someone calls you a faggot IRL? yeah, that might be insulting (as an insult ought to be). someone calls you a faggot on 4chan? it means nothing. drawfags, writefags etc. = cool peeps.
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>>97899828
I don't have minis because I don't play retarded faggot wargames. I am also neither a chud nor a troon because I hate both of you. I hope both your mothers get cancer.
Not only do I have OVER 9000 hours on Roll20, but I've also ghost-written for WotC, have done RPG consulting for several other companies, and have written my own book. I used to play IRL, but playing digitally is a lot more rewarding because ctrl+f and making maps, tokens, and bgm is easier.