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>Most recent banlist update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com
https://www.pdhrec.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

Thread Culture

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Gay Bolas
https://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas

>Did anon's story happen?
https://files.catbox.moe/ika7gh.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4SEDzynMiQ&t=44s
https://files.catbox.moe/t0zq17.jpg

>Why is mono green so boring?
https://files.catbox.moe/2x8qly.jpg

>Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

TQ: Which color do you dislike the most?
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>TQ
Probably Green
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>97890923
>le reddit bolas yiffy page OwO
Fake thread, abort
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>>97890923
>TQ
Blue. I've only found one mono color blue commander that I wanted to build. It's also the color I find myself putting the least amount of cards of when playing multi color decks that have blue.
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Red. I wish it was stronger in EDH.
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>>97893461
Got a new pic for the new set?
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>>97890923
Green no doubt
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Any feedback? We try to keep our decks around 400 usd and loosely in the B3/B4 zone.

https://moxfield.com/decks/ghRhZ_T8UEeKRi7jfRMWVQ
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>Playing with a tranny at my LGS
>HE is playing Breya as commander
>I'm playing Miirym
>Play opportunistic dragon and steal his commander
>Joke that the dragon is probably raping Breya in his lair
>Only one other person laughs
>Tranny looks pissed
>Finish the game neither of us win
>Next week I come back
>LGS manager says I'm banned because there have been complaints about me
It was probably the rape joke right?

Posted in the wrong general. You faggots sure do post a lot huh.
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>>97893649
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>>97893649
Trannies are super sensitive and rape jokes have gotta already clear a pretty tough bar to be funny
Sorry they overreacted, shouldve just talked to you and said "hey, not cool, maybe skip a week and come back later"
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>>97893649
Normalfaggots and trannies default to banning people when they get offended.
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>>97893237
Not saved and I forgot the deck at my friend's place because I'm a fucking idiot. Ask me next week or something. Pretty much it's like ~20 Threatens + Eldrazi and all the cards that make tons of spawns for ramp. Card draw is ASS because monored + I hate impulse draw, so it relies on reallll shitty/budget stuff like fuckin Arcane Encyclopedia/Eye of Vecna/Bonders Enclave/Bandit's Haul/Heirloom Epic/some others I can't remember. But it balances the deck because it's a piece of shit that steals people's big baddies and emerges out eldrazi from them and of course runs all the "your creatures have haste" stuff so they can immediately attack
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>>97893649
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>book errata is live
Christ almighty please give us a commander that cares about books. +1/+1 for each book you control or literally anything like that I'm DYING to make a buff librarian please god I'll do anything PLEASE
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>>97893790
tasha the witch queen cares about page counters, which I guess it's the only "sinergy" between books so far (apart from generic artifact synergies)
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If you don't own the card you don't get to use it.
Why is this a controversial statement?
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>opponent has Elas il kor out
>sacs like 20+ creature tokens to win
Any way to counter this? I know Stifle can hit one triggered ability, but are the "end the turn" cards the only way to stop dozens of triggers like her's while all on the stack?
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>>97893829
Summary Dismissal
Whirlwind Denial
Glen Elenda's Answer
Kadena's Silencer
Time Stop effects (as you mentioned)
Not letting your opponent get 40 pieces of material
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>TQ
Blue.
Zach Hedel's voice lives rent free in my head and every time I hear "In response", he starts screaming
>PLEEEAASE DADDY, PLEEEEEASE, I JUST WANT TO CAST A SPELL DADDDY PLEASE I'VE BEEN SUCH A GOOD BOY THIS GAME PLEEEEEEAAAAASE
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My wife if you even care
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Jon irenicus or yurlok to be a cunt to my friends
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>>97894340
Jon infect
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Has the website been shitting its pants for anyone else?
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Jon irenicus or yurlok to be a cunt to my friends
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Lets say I cast this and have Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite in play giving all creatures -2/-2 and my opponent only has 1 creature.

Will the state-based action of the inkling dying from Elesh Norn after being gifted via the ETB happen immediately causing the prepare trigger to fail or will the spell resolve seeing that my opponent has more creatures than me giving me Swords to Plowshare?
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>>97894603
Pretty sure the SBA isn't checked until after the entire spell resolves. So the prepare should take hold for the brief period the inkling exists as a -1/-1
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>>97894603
First, there's no spell resolving in your scenario, it is the Emeritus' ETB triggered ability resolving.
Second, it's all one ability with no gap so the State-based action of the inkling's death doesn't occur until after the entire ability of the Emeritus resolves, including the creature count check. tldr, in that scenario Emeritus would become prepared
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>>97894373
Yes, it keeps failing to upload images.
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I had all the bullshit high power cEDH wannabe *teleports behind you* 'nothing personal, kid' two card combo commanders. Is there a list of comfy jank commanders? Bracket 2, maybe 3, not stronger and going for flavour not powercreep bullshit. I swear I will start buying precons because those are at least honest in including shit cards on purpose.
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>>97894927
Build my man Krenko as a 2 or 3.
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Leremy’s understatement
B
Enchantment
If a player would draw a card except the first on their draw step, that player may pay 1, if they don’t, exile the top card of their library
If a player would create a treasure token, instead they create a mana barbs token
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>>97894944
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>>97893826
I do own my proxies, and some effects let me play my opponent's cards, thoughbeit.
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>>97893826
*in official competitions
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What happened, thought she was good
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>>97895199
>spic shit
Can't and didn't read
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>>97894603
SBAs are not checked during spell resolution. The 0/0 counts. Very happy WotC is integrating arcane rules fuckery into their designs, MTG doesn't have enough of that.
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>>97895230
>Arcane fuckery
How things go onto the stack and how the resolve have been there far long before Arcane was even a thing.
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>>97895199
She's the definition of new age commanders that enables itself. Unfortunately, she's not op enough to draw attention. Compare her to winota for example, the ikoria girl can cheat multiple guys for free turn 3-4, while Bre is only one depending on your life gain. Anyway, boros lifegain is a cool concept, I'll build her in a few months for low Power tables using 50 dollars
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>>97895230
SBAs involving zero toughness are by no means 'arcane rules fuckery', how much of a newfag are you?
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>>97895250
>Compare her to winota for example, the ikoria girl can cheat multiple guys for free turn 3-4, while Bre is only one depending on your life gain.
Yeah, Bre is balanced and not a design mistake
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>>97890923
>TQ: Which color do you dislike the most?
Based on my commanders, what do you think?
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I really wish wotc would standardize token creatures. whats the point of having white soldier tokens and white HUMAN soldier tokens? its not like the white soldier tokens are depicting other races
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>>97895278
Locking in blue.
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>>97895331
One gets a bonus from human tribal, one doesn't.
Simple as.
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>>97895331
What are you talking about? I love having five different dragon tokens. Or however many there are
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Jon irenicus or yurlok, I want to make my friends pissed off
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I want to make new fun deck.
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Why is mono G so fun?
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>>97895562
Are you gonna elaborate at all or was that it?
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>>97895345
okay but white soldier tokens always depict humans anyways so why not make them all white human soldier tokens?
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>>97895581
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>>97895615
The japanese are just full of wisdom. Can't believe they didn't include a version of one of these in a flavor text for neon dynasty.
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Are my reanimation targets based or cringe?
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>>97895710
they're bland
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>>97895710
you seeking out approval is very womanly behaviour desu
>*kisses your neck tenderly and sodomizes you*
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>>97893826
I do own the card. A nice Chinese man made a reprint for me!
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>>97895714
What are some more fun choices that are still impactful?

>>97895719
You're never gonna believe this
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>>97893826
I did not was my hands at the urinal
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>>97895727
You should run this terrible card instead of sheoldred.
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>>97895733
Not gonna lie, if I was an aspiring necromancer and I knew a guy revived something like that, I'd consider him one of the best too.
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>>97895733
1 mana regenerate? ZAMN!
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>>97895758
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Are all 3 of these real magic cards and if not, which is/are fake?
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>>97895577
I love my boy Six.
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>>97895820
I didn't open the thread to play Magical hats Yugi, I attack your life points directly with my Blue Eyes.
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>>97894603
You would both have 2 creatures (Elesh Norn + Emeritus against your opponent's 1 creature and the Inkling).
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>>97895848
Holy shit every bracket 4 deck with green has this fucker in it now. Where did he come from and why is he so ghey
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Are all 3 of these cards legit from the corner radii seen here
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>playing in pod with no described brackets
>I am playing a modified bracket 2 precon
>everyone else is literally running MLD like armageddon and such
>I still win
Bracket 4 ain't nothin
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>>97893826
Weird, my proxies seem to work just fine at every table I've been to.
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>decide to make Esper Urza
>realize that if I do, I'll have 2 Esper decks
>autism refuses this
>switch to mono-blue
>realize that I really don't wanna do that again for now
>switch to Azorius
>start list
>it looks like this so far
I know I wanted a 4, but man this always looks like this lol
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>>97895334
Actually red.
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>>97893826
lmao bitch what are you gonna do about it?
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>TQ
Probably black? I don't have any pet black cards unlike the other colors having random nonsense I like running because I'm attached to the card.
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I saw her at a magic con and she was way more attractive in person. Nice that attractive women are playing the game now.
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>>97895977
you already had an esper urza deck you disingenuous soulless nigger golem, go suck off a dog
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>>97890923
>Which color do you dislike the most?
If I answer this from a mono-color POV then it is white.
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>>97896037
Emphasis on had, I took that apart for Sidar Jabari ages ago and Mono-Blue Urza. Then I disassembled Mono-Blue Urza when I constructed Golbez.
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Resident Evil themed commander deck featuring the first three games and focusing on the room mechanic as the deck theme

Commander is Jill Valentine, The Master of Unlocking.

Make it happen, WOTC.
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>>97896068
wizards hire this man and blackwash Jill and barry
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>>97896081
>Thinking WOTC has the say on this
lol
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uoh?
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>>97896068
I kind of want a set of Capcom secret lairs between Devil May Cry or Monster Hunter with a "When something dies turn it into an equipment" theme.
Partly because I think you can print some cool stuff in that field where you're rewarded for "hunting" your opponent's shit. but also because you can print some cool shit in the 99 with all the stuff you kill in those games.
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>>97896088
wizards chop this niggas dick off and bimbofy his ass pronto
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>>97895820
Middle is real, other 2 are fake, but I'm willing to eat crow.
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>>97896092
>"When something dies turn it into an equipment" theme.
We got those glimmers which became enchantments when they died. I don't think turning into equipment would really be that hard to implement mechanically. I was myself hoping for a partner equipment theme but I like this idea of turning creatures into equipment as well.
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>have store credits
>find cheap played rakdos fetchland, rakdos shockland, and rakdos flip land at LGS
>buy it and come home and look through cards for commanders
>mfw kuja is the only rakdos waifu commander
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>>97896098
The middle one I think is fake but is supposed to be from 4th edition. Left most is from ixalan and right most is from iconic masters (both those sets are from 2017).

If you go up a couple posts there’s a picture comparing the corners, I wonder if that would change your opinion at all.
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anons, what's your favorite card? I started playing right after the urza's sets and this card was basically legendary by that point. The art is totally cool, the effect is incredibly powerful, and it's fun to play too.
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>>97895977
>but man this always looks like this lol
Happens when you retread the same deck themes and reuse all of your good staples for said theme. Whenever I build anything new it has to be something I've never played before. Firkraag is my next deck, I have no goad deck, no izzet deck, and no dragon tribal deck. I have very few staples from any other deck I use that transfer over to it. Keeps the experience fresh.
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>>97896110
Evereth exists
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>>97896103
I think it's an interesting design space that I'd love to see one way or another
>Commander that puts counters on stuff and turns them into equipment when they die, some creatures have very valuable text to steal even if they stop being a creature afterwards.
>Could do a spin on Reconfigure or just bring it back if the templating for having it trigger on death is too much of a hassle.
>Can print stuff in the 99 that could be cool commanders on their own but also function as non-creatures for the commander's intended game plan Mairsil style.
You could of course, shove these ideas into a main set but this feels like something you'd have an easier time designing a precon for.
It's a shame we can't get multifranchise UB sets. Feels like that would solve a lot of problems with some of these sets.
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>>97895820
Middle is real. Two outsides are fake.
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uh oh counterfeits!
STINKY!
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>>97896129
Good choice. I'm glad I still have my copy. Pic related is mine.
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>>97896221
better call the cops anon
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>>97896129
I really can't put one over the other, I love them both.
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>>97896221
I don't even hide my proxies, I deliberately make them look different and just play them.
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>>97896243
Same. I ask people if they are okay with proxies before hand too.
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>>97896129
FUCK
YEAH
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>>97896247
I don't. But I also carry a binder with all the cards I own >20$ that I proxy when I'm playing with new players, and if they complain I re-sleeve the original for the proxy, then win and put the proxy back.
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>>97896258
Has that ever happened? I've only had one person refuse to play against me on principle against proxies alone.
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>>97896022
Make you cry with my own proxies of course
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>>97896295
Why is this supposed to bother me?
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>flawless maneuver
>deadly rollick
>fierce, negation
>yshtola with spark double casts delney just wins

Free spells are faggoty
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>>97896303
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>>97896301
Thanks for admitting that all proxy games inevitably lead to cedh pods in denial btw
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>>97896306
What?
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>>97896231
The ol' side eye works just fine
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>>97896306
>Play with a guy who proxied a full "cedh Atraxa" deck
>He loses all the time because he's a shit pilot.
People try, often doesn't do anything.
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>>97896315
Doesn't work vs narcissists
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>>97896318
piloting a deck doesn't matter. A monkey with a CEDH deck will beat a bracket 3 every time
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>edh night
>bring my new deck that's mostly proxies that I'm testing the feel of
>I was looking for a mono-white gimmick deck, landed on picrel
>3 player pod for game 1
>player 2 is using the Felothar precon(defender creatures that swing with their toughness), player 3 is Doran, Besieged by Time, so a shitton of creatures with enormous asses that become even bigger on battle
>luck into being able to play Sephara, Sky's blade(gives other flying creatures indestructible), alongside a gryphon that gives Banding
>I've never actually seen Banding in a game, have to look up what it does mid-game
>opponents have a towering titan and a tree of perdition at power 40, respectively
>reread banding
>realize it allows me to chump block both of them with a single 2/2 gryphon token, thanks to the Banding

Did I read that right? Is Banding that fucking good?

I mean, I ended up losing because the Doran player drew into a Rogue's passage so he was able to swing for lethal with his tree of perdition, but...
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>>97896319
>doesnt work against a deviant and parasitic member of society
You've already won
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Theft should be banned from bracket 2
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>-ACK GAVIN SAVE ME
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>>97896330
>Turn 1, sol ring
>Turn 2, play tiny bones bauble burglar
>Turn 3, ill-gotten gains
>Full table scoop
Look ma, I'm bracket 4 speed!
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I hate using my meme decks against new players because they start moaning and groaning about my tummy spells
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>>97896404
real slim Voda
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Do any Australians have recommendations for stores that ship to New Zealand?
There's just too many cards that are completely unavailable here, even after waiting months for them to show up anywhere. Though honestly I might just go for Card Kingdom to find the impossible-to-gets since the prices aren't completely awful (somehow even CK doesn't have Hourglass of the Lost though)
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>Bought this just to add to a cart to make free shipping
>Put it into my deck as a lark
>More than pulling its weight every time it comes down
Also, the fact that if I can make it a creature it will pjhase itself out with everything else permanently is hilarious.
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>>97896089
PDS is NOT gonna like this!
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>>97895820
They're all real. There's no such thing as a fake card. If I write Command Tower on a piece of looseleaf and sleeve it and play it the pod understands that I can use it to generate 1 mana of any color in my commander's identity. If I print out a picture of a pornstar with Swords To Ploughshares typed across her ass in 12 Times New Roman and glue it to a bicycle card and sleeve it up and I draw the card and pay 1 white mana and declare a creature as the target the pod understands that that creature is exiled.

There's no such thing as fake cards.
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>>97896323
No you didn't read it right but yes, the reason why they'll never print it again is not because it was complicated to understand but because of how powerful it is on the defense. Since you get to allocate damage, you can choose to allocate any trample damage to the 1/1 you chose to band with. This means that you don't lose your banding creature, chump block all trample damage, and just lose a separate less creature

If you blocked two creatures with one creature, you are cheating though. Banding allows you to block one creature with two(or more) creatures in a band, and you get to allocate damage rather than controlling player.
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>>97896673
should have been clearer: The felothar player had the towering titan, and the Doran player had the tree of perdition. I was only blocking 1 creature with two gryphons(including the banding one)
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Rate my custom commander
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>>97896674
Oh yeah, basically immovable with either indestructible or a bunch of 1/1 fodder that you could band with.
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>>97896675
Seems like Yenna but more mana efficient and with a smaller scope. Wouldn't be that interesting to build for it.
How about something like this, which is probably more fitting with the colour identity?

When an aura you control becomes unattached from a permanent, exile it. You may return it to the battlefield at the beginning of your next upkeep.

The idea is that it shifts around the idea of which auras are good, making for a much more exotic deck. Usually, effects that weaken a creature are bad since it's only removal if the creature was already weak, and when buffing a creature a small buff isn't that helpful since if the creature dies then it's just costing you card advantage.
If auras that disappear because the permanent they were attached to was lost can return, then it flips the balance on its head and a card like Stab Wound goes from trash to actually viable; every turn it can pick off a 2-toughness creature and deal the controller 2 damage. So to build a Sofia deck you'd have a bunch of trash buffs and debuffs in play that keep appearing on something else if the creature they're on dies.
However, it's not too oppressive since opponents can still use removal on the enchantments themselves, unlike if it was a simple "on your upkeep bring back all auras from your graveyard".
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Dorf fortress crossover wasn't on my bingo card for 26. Also why the FUCK isn't there a single dorf in it?
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ITT: we build a deck like it's 2015
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>>97896832
I wasn't playing commander in 2015, I have no idea what it was like.
Probably just gay but different gay.
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>>97896675
Mating press.
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>>97896778
hm hm ok. the general idea was that you'd go wide with auras, things like pacifism on opponents or general buffs on your dudes, with the flavor being that the coven of witches were doing some hocus pocus to make more enchantments. I see where you're going though, specifically recurring auras that already entered instead of just bringing back any old aura
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>>97896832
I think I had a half assed iroas deck at the time but I was still playing modern/standard still
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>>97896778
Tacking one small thing onto this:

When an aura you control becomes unattached from a permanent, exile it. You may return it to the battlefield at the beginning of your next upkeep. *Otherwise, put it in your graveyard.*

Realized it was a bit odd (especially for a black effect) that the cards just stay exiled if you don't return them to the battlefield, and it was vague what happens if you try return them but there's nothing to attach them to.
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>>97896675
Should we post more cringe OC commanders?
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Can a rules nerd explain to me how terra magical adept is 5 color? The color identity pip on the backside is gruul? I know she creates double WUBRG but I always thought the identity pip was king. Same with how the MH3 sorin has a Orzhov color identity pip on the planeswalker side?
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>>97896923
Producing mana of a certain color makes the card that color. So a mono-G creature that makes only W and B is abzan, but a mono-G creature that makes any mana is still mono-G
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>>97896923
If you see a colored pip on a card, front side or back side, that is, or is part of their color Identity.
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>>97896931
yeah basically the rules text having all 5 colors makes it a WUBRG commander but the saga creature itself is gruul? Am I getting that right? you can't red elemental blast the saga side?
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Assembly-Worker commander when?
Kaalia but for dragons, drakes, and wurms when?
Legendary gargoyle when?
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>>97896937
No, the card is not a blue card.
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>>97896948
yeah this card is kinda fuckass
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>>97893469
Red is busted in EDH
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>>97896970
the more you sweat in a children's card game the stronger red becomes, which i suppose is appropriate for fire magic
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>>97896303
Really need to get a Delney for my Y'Shtola deck once I finish my two ~75% finished decks lol
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>>97896923
A mana pip appearing anywhere except reminder text counts towards colour identity.
Even something like Mtenda Lion still counts as a green-blue card despite the blue pip in the rules having nothing to do with the controller.
I do wonder though if it makes sense, having things that aren't mana costs the controller can pay count towards colour identity.
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>>97896937
yes what is so hard to understand that youre not getting through your skull?? a card's "color identity" for commander (a player made format) is based on its mana cost + other card text other than reminder text (this is an example of reminder text in parenthesis), like a colored cost in an activated ability or a type of mana it can produce

this is related to why you cannot put a plains or a forest in a grixis deck (but you could put a misty rainforest or marsh flats in one)
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>>97896662
I didnt ask you for a philosophical discussion im asking which of these are official cards and which are non sanctioned reprints, if any
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>>97896330
bracket 2 should be banned. decks that suck that bad shouldn't be played and you should be ashamed of yourself for playing them.

of course a game full of troon groomers, RAN BY faggots and drag queens knows no shame
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>>97897166
HOLY FUCKING BASED
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>>97896243
how does that affect how the store tracks your WPN play metrics?
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>>97896176
left one is from an ixalan fat pack, the right one is from an iconic masters pack and the middle I just ordered on eBay supposedly from 4th edition.

the two outside ones I opened from packs the middle one I'd hope is real but its corners look fucked up.
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>>97896176
actually I think I swapped it the left is the iconic masters and the right is the ixalan fat pack. but the middle is "4th edition"
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Let's say, theoretically, I had the opportunity to get an Aetherdrift bundle for cheap, but only really want it for a chance at certain cards I could probably buy for even less. Should I go for it?
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>>97897211
Aetherdrift is like
alright
I'd say get the singles as someone who got 3 bundles and a box back when it came out and have very little to show for it except a ton of "START YOUR GAY"
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>>97897211
Stock Up and Verges might be worth the risk even if everything else you pull is trash
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>looking through cards with Squad because I almost forgot to add Sicarian Infiltrator to a pile
>see this
>artifact
>colorless
>squad
>on hit it makes an artifact token
>wasted on TMNT
They really went out of their way making the TMNT cards announce themselves with their names so you can barely avoid the shame of playing one, didn't they? That new 2 drop artifact with the anthem effect AND the clone effect for 5 mana is awesome but it's literally called Chrome Dome.
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>>97897225
It's the only way to get that shit to sell. You still have to pay the fag tax every time you play those cards though.
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>>97897225
lol get fucked FFag
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>>97897225
Imagine playing this card though
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>>97895577
Managing to hit people with a Berserk'd Ghalta was fun back in the day.
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>>97897271
I was so burned when that came out, as a lover of Trophy, Trinket, Treasure, and Tribute Mages as cheap ETB effect tutors. That shit is horrible. Worst part? Probably the uncommon I pulled the most from Aethershit.
>>97897233
Like you could, so easily, have just made an In-Universe card like this for Ixalan, Innistrad, Mirrodin, or even make it use that token that Farid uses
>3 drop with 3 cost Squad (upped by 1 mana so it triggers Simulacrum Synthesizer winkwink)
>1/1 deathtouch (the 2 is unnecessary when it's meant to trade up infinitely anyway)
>when it hits face you make Map, Blood, Powerstone, or Scrap token

I mean, look at this thing. 2 drop, anthem effect, colorless, has a mana sink to easily do something stupid infinitely if you make infinite mana. I want to use it SO fucking bad because even the art isn't that bad, but the fact they had to call it Chrome Dome? Why not Chrome Killer? Why not Chrome Ninja? Just anything that isn't so juvenile or stupid (yes, I know the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are literally built on teenage silliness). It's probably one of like 4 cards in the entire set I'd consider using because it's not an ai generated pizza or a dozen of the same turtle card.
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>>97897315
He's an odd named character that isn't a legend. If he were just a generic robot mook they would have picked a different name for him
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>>97897405
OH he's a specific character? Okay that makes more sense. I figured with the crippling addiction to Legendary as a supertype in UB they'd have jumped at the chance if he were a guy.
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>>97897418
Several lesser Avatar and TMNT cards were downgraded from legends despite clearly depicting named characters. Chrome Dome is one of them. Going to guess it's mostly for the sake of limited and standard.
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>>97897431
Had no idea that was a named character, then again I dropped Avatar around the time he went to learn firebending and the rest I've seen through various clips of cool shit like Azula's fights, Mai, Ty Lee, etc. I've had yet another change of heart so I'm trying to make a slightly aggro Esper Urza deck because I realized my Sidar Jabari is straight up using none of my good Esper resources so I can just throw the good shit in here.
I'm sure I'll change my mind in an hour or two. I want to build a new artifact deck but I can't get into the right mindset since I came back from hiatus, and playtests with Golbez haven't felt very good lately so I want to change it. It's a weird struggle I always have since Artifacts are my favorite archetype.
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Do you guys ever shuffle cards between multiple decks? Like I have some of the bigger staples (e.g. ancient tomb), but I really don't want to buy multiple copies.
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>>97897485
Multiple copies or moving them between decks is the only honest way to do things.
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>>97897478
You have some kind of complex with Urza, don't you?
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>>97897485
After WoTC shit the bed with the 30th anniversary proxy set I just proxy any staple I need 20+ copies of for all my decks
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>>97897518
I like just about every single Urza card, he's my favorite character in lore and the entire concept has always resonated with me. Lord High Artificer is really strong and I love it, Lord Protector and Prince of Kroog are both cool, and Chief Artificer literally produces my favorite token in the game consistently and is built to just keep doing that.
I know Mono-Blue is stronger, and I'm aiming for a 4-5, so maybe it's better to just commit to it and make the strongest one I can while still being viable for more normal play. I just dislike having 50% of my deck be counterspells which is what cedh feels like. I was really hoping for Reality Fracture to have a super fucking sick Grixis or Dimir Urza and a Jeskai/Boros Mishra so they keep their central color (Urza as blue and Mishra as red) but go the opposite ways.
https://archidekt.com/decks/21750031/artifactorio
I have this I just threw together, but like, maybe I should switch back to mono-blue.
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>>97897533
>>97897478
I ain't readin allat but why aren't you just building Breya if you want a bunch of colors and high power? She's a high tier C-EDH commander but you can just play her as thopter spam.
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>>97897547
>She's a high tier C-EDH commander
>check date
>2018 is calling
>the call is coming from inside the thread
She hasn't been relevant in 8 years, dog.
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>>97897559
What are you smoking, retard-kun. She's up there with Tymna/Kraum and actually manages to be a combo machine in the command zone with the ability to straight up kill almost every other viable cedh commander with one of her abilities. Removal is the bane of decks like Kinnan, Kefka, and Stella Lee and there are like 5 viable commanders with more than 4 toughness.
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>>97897590
>4 different colored pips
>2 more mana on top of that
>assuming 0 interaction casting a multicolor artifact/creature spell with built in combo potential
>against 3 other cedh decks that got their commanders out 2-3 turns ago
>can kill 1 commander maybe if it doesn't get stifled
>all for 6 mana
>tapping out to kill a single creature
>in cedh
I'd pact you just to watch you stop being able to play for the entire game. Don't recommend her to anyone ever again.
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>>97897611
>I have pact
Concession accepted.
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>>97897636
>he doesn't always have it
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>>97897707
You get it. I Bandit Keith that shit.
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>>97897547
Anon she's just not very good. Whatever role you're trying to force her into is done better now.
>I need a resource outlet
Kenrith, Sisay, Thrasios
>I want generic, noncommittal value
Partner, Talion
>I want a combo engine
Kinnan, Magda, Ral
>I want a curve topper
Etali, Tivit

The ability to kill commanders has fallen off hard because people have realized the strongest way to build a deck is when your 99 functions independently (your progress towards a win isn't as telegraphed, harder to disrupt, less committal to cast commander, etc). This isn't even getting into how Breya's cost makes it difficult to find mulligans capable of actually reaching her.
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>>97897533
>check link
>it's monoblue now
Man you really do flip-flop. After that argument about C.Edh, I don't really blame you. Esper Urza isn't very good outside of B3.
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>>97897792
I'm pissed I haven't used this card before. Fuck Red and all of their nigger wheels and cost cheating.
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>today I will remind them
>>97890923
>TQ
Blue if only for counterspells
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>TQ
Can I just say Boros? Boros is ass
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>>97897726
Speaking of Talion, what's the optimal number to pick in a non-cedh environment? I've seen people arguing between 2 and 3.
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>>97897819
>futafaggotry
>on /d/
Go check their catalog and be happy we didn't attract one of the hyper expansion /d/orse dicknipple diaperfags.
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>>97897835
Never thought about it until this post but by /d/ standards he's relatively vanilla
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>>97897808
I'm more of a green hoser
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>>97897835
>even on /d/ swordfag has the most bland taste imaginable
It's like pottery.
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>>97897851
He's a bowl of unseasoned, boiled ravioli eatin' ass nigga.
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>>97897847
Run both and make Gruul Trannies seethe to death.
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>>97897547
I have a complex with Breya as a whole, but I feel this discussion more or less summed up why I try to avoid her outside of my extreme autism about not knowing how to commit to her properly because she's everything I'd ever want in a commander
>all the colors I want to play (Esper and Grixis but their balls are touching)
>ETB effect
>Artifact
>Sac outlet
>Life gain
>Burn
>Removal
>all in one
She's too great so I get very unfocused and end up with like 400 cards I want to use with her and it never goes anywhere. I have a friend who has to remind me to stop whenever I start pondering the Breya question.
>>97897792
yeah, at the end of the day if I'm going for something really strong, Esper Urza just isn't gonna cut it. I'm not 100% super confident in my list for Mono-Blue Urza right now, but I'm gonna assemble it later today when I wake up and see how it feels in playtests.
>>97897808
I fucking LOVE color-hosing.
>>97897847
Extremely based, color-hate is 10/10

tried to work in a small snow thing since I wanted to use Extraplanar Lens really badly.
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>>97895069
What the fuck is thoughbeit
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>lgs allows people to play commander every day
>doesn't matter if there's a draft happening, standard or whatever else
>strixhaven doesn't have a lot of people signing up, so you can play commander even during the pre-release event
>you can just show up and there's a good chance to find commander players
>one guy keeps annoying me until I give up and start playing 1v1 with him, because he can't wait until more people show up
>40 life
>100 cards
Are there decks that are particularly good at that? I want to obliterate this fool half a dozen times so that he waits for 2 other players to show up instead of asking me to play 1v1.
I imagine mono-red aggro and voltron is particularly good in 1v1. I'm thinking about building a tifa deck just for this asshat
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>>97897907
>>97897726
>>97897869
>>97897857
>>97897851
>>97897846
>>97897835
>>97897819
>>97897792
>>97897636
I'd bet real money every single one of these posts and the ENTIRE cedh argument was just Swordfag talking to himself.
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>>97897942
>No John, you are the pedofurfaggot!
Nigger please, both my parents are still alive.
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>another melty
Uh oh, schizo alarm
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>>97897942
How did you know?
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>>97897939
Stop being a beta and tell him to fuck off or wait if you don't want to play 1v1. Building a whole deck to stomp one particular annoying LGS random is psycho
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>>97897822
The artist? I disagree
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>>97897955
>He has never built a deck to counter 1 specific deck at his lgs
I guess I'm a psycho then.
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>>97897955
>t.is so annoying people stomp him to make him fuck off
>>97897989
Don't listen to fagballs anon, some people need to be put in their place. I've found Lurrus and Thrun do very well in 1v1 scenarios.
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>>97897808
The more 3-4 color slop commanders they print, the more these cards get stronger and I love it.
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>>97897907
I think you can afford to be confident. It's not amazing, but anything that would be A-tier is a 1:1 recreation of the best deck with 0 flavor.
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>>97897939
you are being a psycho, but rafiq is the classic for that.
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I'm thinking of making an avatar aang deck only with cards from that set, all on theme. Including lands. Based or cringe?
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>>97898133
Based Aang Gang member
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What commander would enjoy this
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>put in a list with my LGS to pull a bunch of cards
>faggot """speculators""" drive cards up to the moon shortly after
>call LGS to cancel the pull, given the bullshit prices
>"nah bro you put your request in before that, so long as you pick them up and pay, you get the price for when you put the order in"
>mfw
Sometimes you actually get good experiences.
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i dont run UB.
i filter -is:ub on all scryfall searches
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Bonus commander card:
>Ricky retardo
Eminence Emblem - Free to any commander deck. Illegal in bracket 3 and above
Commanders with mana value 4 or less cannot cause players to draw cards, add cards to their hand, add mana, or allow players to cast spells for free or place permanents onto the battlefield
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>>97898276
Why do retards think this is a better solution than updating the banli- I mean GC list (we don't ban cards anymore teehee)
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>>97898293
Adding direct rule cards to the literal game state is superior to angleshooting niggers
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>>97898155
lame choice as usual bloodborne bro
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>>97898295
How exactly does one angleshoot playing a banned card?
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>>97898162
Korvold
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>>97897225
Faggot, you're playing a fantasy card game where you're pretending to cast lightning bolta and summon unicorns to fight for you. You're already not cool, you have nothing to lose saying "I cast Roadkill Rodney to block Captain America" as opposed to "I use True Love's Kiss on your Sword of Fire and Ice so now the vampire Edgar Markov won't dey cards when he attacks me!"

You anti-UB fags are so stupid. Imagine being worried about lame you're going to look playing Ninja Turtles or Spider Man cards in a game where people are pulling out unicorns and dragons and mermaids and squirrels.
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>>97898425
>Swordfag
>anti-UBfag
hahahahahahAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHH
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>>97898133
I made a similar deck with the 5 color slop lady from duskmourn, excluding the commander cards, using cards only from the standard set and that's barely a bracket 2 deck.
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>>97898440
Swordfag understands UW is indefensible but at the same time still thinks mtg is somehow above UB like tmnt, which really isnt the case
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>>97898466
>G-god guys I just love Urza SO MUCH
>understands UW is indefensible
>defends buying UB if you like the IP
>also is an anti-UBfag
I literally do not understand your argument, it's full of contradictions.
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>>97898466
Turtles are perfect for MTG. I play arena and they have little lore tidbits during queue times when you wait for a match to start. They still show lorwyn crap as well and that is some of the dumbest shit that I've ever read
>Everything is nothing and nothing is everything, lies are true, but the truth is just lies
>Retarded faggot's lament
Wow, that's deep if you're a mongoloid
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any commanders that give an "impending doom" feel?
jhoria seemed cool but i thought she was far too slow and inconsistent
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>>97898496
Jhoira can benefit from Dr Who cards because there was one deck all about suspend iirc
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>>97898483
>Turtles are perfect for MTG.
Bait used to be believable.
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Turtles?
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>>97897533
>https://archidekt.com/decks/21750031/artifactorio
>blue urza in 2026
Loses to basic combat steps. This shit can't protect itself even a little. Urza isn't even a wincon anymore.
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>>97898540
It's as lame and retarded. MTG has some of the dumbest lore imaginable
>It's not a robot, laser gun or airplane it's a magical artifact thing
Cool "high fantasy ", you got there, mong.
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>>97898540
>Bait used to be believable
You tell me retard
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>>97898550
I prefer temu teenage mutant ninja turtles, I mean, MTG ninja turtles.
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>>97893826
BASED
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>>97898478
>likes urza, a 90s character
>hates transit mage and other modern audience shit
>thinks FF is fine
>but not TMNT
You tell me if that's not a guy that understands that UW hasnt gone to shit but still cant accept that cartoons for young boys are fine in a children's card game
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>>97898589
I think it's fair to not want the slop to be so tonedeaf that it's TMNT. I think the last time he got shit on he rambled about "appropriate UB" and things tonally consistent with Magic's world. Problem is Nosewater doesn't give a shit about that, he just wants his nostalgia in the game. That's why we got TMNT, Spider-man, and the worst offender to me was Brothers' War. A set about the inciting incident of basically the entire game's lore was forced to carry fucking Transformers cards IN THE PACKS. Not separate, not some kind of side product. In the packs. Replacing your mythic or rare slot. Even if it were a bonus slot it's still completely retarded.
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>>97898589
>children's card game
I really hate people like you.
>demographic age means you can just glue everything together and it's fine
Products are liked because of their merits. Advertisements on cardboard lacks Magic's merits, universe, lore, or accessibility since UB is just another Reserve List. I loved Ghost of Tsushima, but the card is now $120. Not really helping out all of those "kids" playing a game with an average playerbase nearing 30 and maybe a quarter of it already pushing 45.
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>>97898617
If tsushima fans can afford a $60+ AAA game that also requires a good pc rig to run then they can afford a $120 piece of cardboard
Also tmnt is at the same age range of 8+ as naruto, a japanese ip that even you will admit is fine for mtg since we have kamigawa 1.0 and 2.0, but ofc tmnt bad because westoids are terminally ironypilled over some anthropomorphic reptiles even though we just had bloomburrow LMAO
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>>97898688
there were no anthropomorphic animals in bloomburrow, just animals.
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>>97898691
>sentient
>bipedal
>wears clothes
>has a human like society
>noooooo these are just animals not a furfag's dream
The cope is real
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>>97898705
The furries didn't win because... they just didn't! Okay?
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>>97898688
>we had Kamigawa so we can have Naruto
Okay, calling it here. Can't reply to bait of this low quality any further.
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>>97893445
Omg its sword bro hi
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>>97898496
She's still good if you use all the tools to futz with suspend counters in a control shell
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>>97898691
>there were no anthropomorphic animals in bloomburrow
I do think a good chunk of the bloomburrow cast would basically count as Antro anon
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This thread is a perfect example of why the no-UB thread was a good idea
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This thread is a perfect example of why a pro-UW thread is an exercise in self-humiliation
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>>97897939
Purphorus Bronze Blooded. Ive done a 1v1 with him and it was in the bag turn 4, no combos just big ass dragons/ artifact creatures straight to the face
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>>97898729
The anons over there are calling Eldraine and Innistrad hat sets and arguing about it. All it showed is that retards love yelling above anything else
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>>97898729
Why are you here then? Go away and stay there
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>>97898719
Yeah that's right you better run the nip cartoons are gonna git ya!
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>>97893826
Because they like to cheat
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>>97898749
Ahhh, the best lore in any medium.
>Remember this other thing???
mtg has been full of that since its inception
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>>97898745
why are any of us still talking about MTG since apparently we all hate it
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>>97898724
I'm being silly on purpose and do think cruelclaw, many of the otters and squirrels, and some random other ones like vren are anthropmorphic, but the rabbits, mice, and lizards are basically just funny standing animals that can hold sticks.
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>>97898768
I get what you mean then
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>>97898768
>>97898778
oh, right, the bats are also horrific non-mammilian six-limbed freaks.
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>>97898766
I love mtg because it has the best mechanics out of all tcgs, keep coping though
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>>97898768
I'd say there's a difference between anthropomorphized and anthropomorphic
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>>97898783
Exactly. It's the best gameplay out there. Lore, art and story sucks, but what kind of loser cares about that anyway?
>I won't read books or watch movies I only care about the lore and story of mtg
LMAO
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>>97898781
No?
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>>97898764
Mtg back in the day reference public domain like 1001 nights and not corpo owned ip like fist of the north star, nig diff
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>>97898790
some are.
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>>97898789
Mtg is the exact opposite of pokemon; pokefags wont even bother lying to you that their conflipping is le epic gameplay but somehow the troons will keep insisting mtg has epic lore, par for the course for mentally ill freaks i guess
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>>97898805
That's just poorly drawn bat anatomy, the arms are still clearly part of the wings
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>>97898797
They started referencing slop 20 years ago. It hasn't stopped. The art on the first cards is abysmal and those badly drawn cards referencing some other crap doesn't make it any better
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>>97898744
Pretty much. If it's not one thing it would be something else.
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>free spells
>cheap tutors
>'bullshit spells' such as cyc rift, necropotency, lim duls
>easy 2 card infinites

I view the above as crutches, it's not hard, expensive or difficult to include free counterspell #4, or tutor for 5th combo or a bullshit card that instantly wins you the game. There's no strategy when half of your non-land cards all do the same generic thing to speed run into combos. I feel like operating around constraints and inconsistency is more fun, less predictable, and more skill based having to actually hedge opportunity costs of holding mana, and digging through your deck with larger draw rather than shortcutting everything with tutors, taking no risks with free counterspells and 'best in slot' staples.
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>>97898812
I agree that it's because it's poorly done/understood, but in that picture the arms are clearly separate from the wings.
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>>97898938
I'm really just asking this to bust your balls, but where do you draw the line on "bullshit" VS just "win condition"?
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>>97898953
Well obviously you're just gonna have to read my mind because it goes without saying
And if i do bother to tell you what my delienation is you're just going to have to accept it, because i'm HIM
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>>97898938
I run tutors under the principle that my decks NEVER have a one-card "I win" button. Not even a big x spell. They're there for utility or to grab an answer to the situation at-hand.

I'd rather most of that stuff be banned. That being said you sound like a baby.
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>>97898938
what about "free" spells
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>>97898938
good thing they made a bracket specifically for people like you so you can play in peace
oh wait, you faggots still cry about this shit
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>>97898978
>in peace

>>97898977
You still have to hold 3 mana to cast it, things like mindbreak trap and foil are fine, it’s just the force of will, fierce, force of negation etc
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>>97898965
Damn. I kneel.
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>>97898997
Fierce Guardianship is the only problem card on that list. People already board out FoW in Legacy as it is the moment they know their opponent's deck isn't an FTK, and FoN's Modern play comes and goes.
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>>97898997
Wow! Your opponent got a hand that occurs once every blue moon
Just shuffle up and go next nigger, nobody cares that you got btfo once early-game. Imagine letting shit like this live rent free in your head
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>>97898997
You absolutely belong in the bracket that thinks farewell is busted, enjoy!
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>>97898997
>force of will
rofl Force is fine in bracket 2, Gavin is insane for thinking it's a game changer
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What will the card be when WotC ports the Picard facepalm meme into UB Star Trek? Counterspell?
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>>97899014
It's not about a single one, it's the number of.

>>97899024
>blue moon
>tutors for it
>uses a free counter to protect it on turn 2

>>97899039
>schizoposting

>>97899045
I don't care about the game changer classification
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>>97899068
>Had his 1/99 tutor in opening hand along with his 1/99 free counter.
Yeas, that is not a very common opening hand.
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>>97899068
The point is the people you most align with are more afraid of farewell than being gimped by a reanimated jin gitaxias t2 with free counterspell backup so who's the real crybaby here?
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>>97899068
99% of decks with Force of Will are better-served running Spell Pierce or pretty much any 1-mana counterspell because a card of specific color is almost always a higher cost than 1 mana when the effect is exclusively reactive. Bitching about any free counterspell but FG is a huge Timmy red flag.
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I'm tired of this new edh meta where every deck threatens lethal turns 5-7. It was supposed to last longer
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>>97899195
>Sit down with randoms
>Vivi and Kefka
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Which one should I use as a proxy for my commander?
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>>97899150
>bitching about 3+ free counterspells is a huge timmy red flag

>>97899086
>not a common opening hand
have you ever done the math? 7+2 draws, including mulligan for 1 of 3 tutors, or 1 of 3 counterspells. additionally, the odds of finding the card or variant that doesn't even need to be tutored.
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>>97899240
>bro I took the moxes out of the cedh list its totally a 3
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>>97899195
It'll only get worse. The world you knew is gone forever. Low bracket 2 is the only soul format left.
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>>97899279
Yes because of all the free counterspells that exist, only one is a problem that actually makes the game worse.
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>>97899249
left
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>>97899284
I had the displeasure of "bracket 2 Kefka" while king retard at the table blows his removal on my commander so Kefka can untap and rape him.
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>>97896832
Oh boy, time to pull out my Mazirek deck!
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>>97896889
Sure I'm on mobile right now but I'll post mine when I get on desktop.
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>>97893649
trannies are an integral part of mtg according to the lead designers so his opinion weights more than yours
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>>97899195
>it was supposed to last longer
>ok i boardwipe every other turn and rip your hand apart
>game grinds to a halt
>noooo not like thaaaaat
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My boyfriend, Burakos
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No matter what happens. I STAY playing Bill Ferny.
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Whoa MAMA! What the fuck is this?
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>>97899440
In monkey language "buracos" is literally translated as "holes", so people joke all the time about this guy. Cool deck, too bad the original precon is hard to find now
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>>97893649
>Makes an extremely unfunny joke
>Surprised that he's banned
You're clearly a smelly autist
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>>97899577
Ah, back when Magic was only shit sometimes instead of shit all the time
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>>97893649
You're an idiot.
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>>97899961
Who's the artist so i can laugh at him
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black/green/white vehicles commander when
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>>97898496
I didn't realize fatty didn't remove time counters during upkeep, kinda shit
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>>97900173
You already have a black green/white vehicle commander
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Rip And Greasefang WBG
Legendary Creature - Human Rat Pilot Survivor
At the beginning of combat on your turn, if this is tapped, reveal the top four cards of your library and put a vehicle from among them onto the battlefield tapped, crewed, and attacking.
4/3
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>>97900218
felothar but aetherdrift, 1wbg
human femboy pilot
Each creature you control with toughness greater than its power saddles Mounts, crews Vehicles and stations permanents using its toughness rather than its power.
Vehicles you control assign combat damage assigns combat damage equal to its toughness rather than its power.
1/4
deathtouch or something I dunno
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>>97896889
>>97896675
>[Hoebag], Dubious Sellsword
>RWB
>Legendary Creature - Human Mercenary
>[Howbag] can't be sacrificed.
>T: Destroy another target creature. That creature's controller makes X treasure tokens, where X was the destroyed creature's power. Then [Hoebag] deals damage to that creature's controller equal to the number of treasures that player controls. That player gain's control of [Hoebag].
>4/2
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>ban most of the banlist
>bring back the commander tuck rule
>bring back the old legendary rule
>ban UB cards by default

There. I fixed the format.
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>i made a typo and keep repeating it because I'm retarded
Good for you
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>>97900326
This post made me check the anti-ub thread again and I'm just wondering if those anons actually have anything positive to say about MTG at all. I thought the thread would at least be filled with anons talking about the game but all they're doing is saying every in universe set is a hat set and talking about Hasbro's management
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>>97900426
I don't know what you were expecting. They don't like playing magic nearly as much as they like complaining about magic.
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>>97898938
A lot of these problems exist because they can't stop being retarded about the brackets (because Gavin and the dev team are closeted pubstomp faggots who don't want to be put in sweatlords jail). Free spells, generic tutoring, combo faggotry, etc are all spiritually 3+.
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>>97900326
ban all of the banlist
destroy old commanders
destroy old legends
ban uw cards by default
there I fixed the format
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>>97900426
My man, their "general" has a paragraph long warning of seething offtopic pissbabying warning others that we're going to "troll" their gay little clubhouse because anons were baking /edh/ with fun stuff. That entire general was created by a seething pissbaby raging that other people dare to like stuff thatal anon doesn't; is it any wonder it's just a pissbaby containment zone full of negative gaylords fighting over the most inane shit imaginable?
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>>97898496
This dude's pretty fun for that.
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Has anyone done a Kingoms EDH game? Sounds pretty damn fun.
https://draftsim.com/kingdoms-edh/
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>>97900819
mafia/werewolf variants are probably fine, but a six player game still seems awful. I'd be more OK with the five player star thing because it reduces the amount of stuff everyone needs to care about.
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>>97900819
>5 to 6 player pods
Pls no.
But I do like everything else about this format. Just wish it could work with less players.
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>>97900819
I actually did awhile back and it was pretty fun but I haven't gotten to play it with any of the new decks I made
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>>97897819
I will never understand why you guys post this like he is terribly embarrassed by this and him using his trip to request was a fuck up.
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UNBAN MY ZESTY ELF YOU WOTC FUCKS!
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>>97900819
the only off shoot format of EDH i'll play is Emperor, since the amount of time for turns for 6 players is still relatively low since 3 people take their turns at the same time.
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>>97901001
>L-look what a loser this guy his!
He has no shame for what he's into, so yeah, its a futile exercise.
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>>97893649
>4channer doesn't know how to hide power level and thinks he is the victim
Many such cases!
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>>97901064
>from the thread that was making memes about wanting to fuck characters from bloomburrow, which aren't even anthro
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>>97901076
Yes anon. Which is just further proof its a futile exercise.
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>>97893649
You will die lonely if you don't learn why not to do that.
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>>97895577
Big Dino bros and always having the mana ramp to cast them, out drawing blue fags with greater good, plus crop rotation veil of summer and autumns veil are fantastic. Also maindeck Taunami as a hedge bet.
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>>97901109
>You will die lonely if you don't learn why not to do that.
And that's a GOOD thing
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What happened to Kirol?
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>>97901166
Genetics beating out grammar.
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>>97901166
+1/+1 and trample
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>>97901166
>mana sink
neat I guess?
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>>97901166
>Broken with breech
FUCK
YAWN
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>>97900819
I've played a lot of this variant actually because my friend who used to regularly host game night prefered 5/6 players. though this version changes some things slightly and gets a detail wrong; Usurper kills the king and assumes the throne (king is just dead, no mercy 1 life point) and the Assassin is usually the most complex role as you need to maneuver such that the king dies last, so you often end up acting like a second knight until the very end when you betray the king.
As for how it plays, I like it a lot as long as everyone is playing mid-low power decks, it kind of falls apart when combo is involved. Definitely does the job of speeding up 5-6 player games and its my preferred variant format, a lot more fun than secret partners which is the other major 6 player variant we played.
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>>97898997
Art on the bottom was used by an autist on the magic forums named cookedeye who didn't believe the rules worked about "target" and shroud
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>>97901166
Is everyone in Lorehold jacked?
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>>97901260
don't skip gym class
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>>97901260
>Healthy body, healthy mind
These useless wards need to stop. 3 life might as well not exist.
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If I'm going to build a green deck, what is THE green deck that comes to mind? I was thinking some variation of elfball or landfall bullshit.
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>>97901287
Some retard is going to say Tifa. Ignore them.
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I wish there weren't so many nombos
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>>97901287
Tifa
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>>97901287
Azusa
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>Guy doesn't pay attention to the Ur-dragon player and doesn't counter their dragon tempest.
>Windmill slams a counter on another person's rampant growth instead.
>Ur-dragon play is doing Ur-dragon shit and needs the board cleared
>I cast a boardwipe.
>Ur-faggot plays herioc intervention
>"Hey, blue player, you have a counter for that?"
>"Yeah, bro I do. I got swan song here."
>He looks are his board that he left a single white mana up for some reason
>"Haha, my bad bro. I'm so high right now. Completely toasted."
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>>97901312
There's a guy in my playgroup that plays better high than the other two players sober. It's a very disheartening experience.
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>>97901287
Tifa with Azusa in the 99 representing her secret lesbian lover.
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What are the odds we're going to get a She-Hulk alternate art of the Temur hulk so I can have a busted cute voltron muscle mommy to play with? (please don't say 0%)
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>>97901370
you'll just get a regular She-Hulk card
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>>97901370
0.
Jennifer Walters would be Naya, not Temur.
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>>97901374
>>97901378
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This is the best secret lair and you can't say otherwise
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>>97901370
there will be a she-hulk card
no it won't eclipse temur hulk
and i think you're a fucking simp for liking femdom; actual girls don't even like that shit and just play it up for views
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>>97901412
It is pretty garbage in value.
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>>97901415
>actual girls don't even like that shit and just play it up for views
source?
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>>97901412
all secret lairs are homosexual
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>bought FF precons
>bought EoE precons
>bought Ashling precon
>bought TMNT precon
>haven't had time to open & upgrade any of them yet
>already planning what SOS deck and SLS to buy
jesus christ fuck my life
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>>97901418
my source is when i'm inside their pussy
they already have one and don't need another like (You)
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>>97901415
>actual girls don't even like that shit and just play it up for views
You should talk to more girls.
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>>97901416
>>97901419
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>>97901421
you know you don't have to be a slop vacuuming little piggy, right? You can just not buy things.
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>>97901425
>he thinks women actually want to dominate and not just coast
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>>97901432
t. proxy fag
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>>97901436
>Doubling down on nonsense when its human nature, both in woman and men to crave control and power over others.
Sorry not even a dom finds you worth spitting on.
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>>97901421
I was thinking of upgrading the TMNT precon but I don't know what to upgrade it with this nigga but I don't know for sure yet
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>>97901452
>its human nature, both in woman and men to crave control and power over others.
>this means women think and act exactly like men
let me guess you think men can be women and vice versa too
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Anyone rule 0 one of these old bastards before? How'd it go?
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>>97901479
what about this says "not blue"
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>>97901479
I still don't know why we need to. Even wotc themselves have said it was a mistake for them not to be legendary. Just errata and reprint, but they are such lazy cucks.
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>>97901467
>>97901436
>this poltard wants us to actually think he talks to women

kekkest of keks
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>>97901486
the only sensible way to make genuine nonpartner 4 color is to make it anti-X, like a dune-brood 2.0 being walking hatestick vs blue
but that isn't even the main issue; unfortunately wotc simply no longer wants to touch blatant color hate
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>>97901485
He can't pee
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>>97901494
>hurr durr you can't talk to women like the rest of us
the funniest thing is that you never had any excuse to begin with
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>>97901486
I used to be against functional erratas but after 100+ cards got errata'd to phyrexian and 40+ cards got the new book subtype I truly do not care anymore. Those erratas have way more impact than 5 stinky old creatures ever will. Just errata the nephilim and be done with it.
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>>97901522
No bro think of the heckin investors whose card values would go down :(
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>>97901485
it's not "not blue" it's "white and black and red and green" because that's how the used to design things.
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>>97901541
and that's why you don't see much 4 color, because wotc realized that unless you make 4color "anti 5th color" it either just becomes 5 color or just 3 color with some bleed
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>>97901506
looksmaxdoubters?
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>>97893829
There isn't a good way to counter it aside from killing the sac outlet. A smart player will pass priority each time the sac trigger occurs instead of putting them all on the stack simultaneously.
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>>97901550
yeah a lot of the nephilim were either 3-color with a vestigal 4th or "whatever"
technically dune brood could even just be green, but hazezon was naya years ago, so sand is at least naya.

looking at them again now, under current design at least
glint eye has a UG static and a RB activated. it's simple but it works.
yore tiller would be WBR or non-blue
witch maw is UBR these days
dune brood could be monogreen or naya.
ink treader is now just mono red. if it was made now now it could copy auras and completely justify white and green, but that's not a design space they had figured out at the time.
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>>97901242
Thanks anon. How you described it is how I thought and hoped it would be. Definitely will try it out when I can.
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>>97901412
The mlp one is unironically the best value by a long shot.
>defense of the heart, a big price reprint
>signet and sol ring, both go literally in any edh deck
>lands will also likely retain value
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>>97901648
they are all not worth shit. MLP will maybe be due to brand popularity.
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With Reality Fracture coming out soon, what sort of cool color inversions are we going to see?
>Blue becomes the color of ferocious sea monsters, the unyielding pressure of the ocean, being drowned and overwhelmed by massive tidal waves, and erosion
>Green becomes the color of economic growth; urban sprawl chokes the life out of other colors, money is made, and survival of the fittest is reimagined as social darwinism
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>>97901681
you're going to see a bunch of alternate color Planeswalkers and that's it
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>>97901681
one thing is for sure: they will never make a color racist ever again
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>>97901695
Mono green being racist seems dumb.
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>>97901697
and yet it makes perfect sense
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>>97901697
The forest HATES outsiders
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>>97901692
>colorless Bolas
>WUBRG Ugin
Give me that shit right now.
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>>97901681
We'll get a 5 color Ugin
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>>97901707
>implying it wont be colorless Bolas and Bant Ugin
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>>97901662
That's a lie and you know it. Sol and Signet go for absurd prices on good SLD prints. I can bet my ass the mlp ones will fetch a premium over time.
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>>97896675
white green or black do not have the copy and choose a new target ability even for creature spells. that would be like a red blue green ability

also ward 1 for only 3 mana is a little tough, if a commander only costs 3 you should expect a swords to plowshares or lightning bolt, not to mention flying + 2/4 is kind of a hard ask.

Maybe 1/4 with flying to survive the lightning bolt but for {1}WBG I think flying ward 1 1/4 is fair. but for 3 mana I would think flying, no ward and 1/4, or ward 1 but its only 1/3 or 1/2 even.
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>>97901720
That Radiance will go crazy hard in foil, no doubt about it
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>>97896831

>game no ones never heard of getting a special lair edition

gōtc cant stop winning!
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>>97901729
*Radiate
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>>97901731
stop trying to force your meme.
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Killed so many people with the third mode on this thing. Dropping someone's shields at the end of their turn late game is a death sentence.
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>Any legendary can be a partner, creatured that used to have partner effectively do nothing special now.
>Choosing to partner forces you to only be able to play 2 spells a turn with no way to increase the amount (The strain from you, as the planeswalker having to focus on two commanders)
There. I saved the format.
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>>97901681
I want more clones in other colors personally
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>>97901681
White.
Burn.
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Hybrid mana change will happen when Reality Fracture comes out
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>>97901822
G O O D
O
O
D
The time to stop suck sheldon's dead dick is long past.
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>>97901555
looksmaxxing is literally just deeply taking care of yourself and your appearance (mostly)
of course it works
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>>97901841
and also smashing your face in with a hammer
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>>97901826
>>97901822
It is a good thing and in most pods it will mean increased deck diversity
extreme cEDH cucks can go suck a dick
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>>97901842
>(mostly)
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>>97901729
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>>97901843
If CEDH cucks cared about the "sanctity of EDH" they would stop playing both parners and CEDH as a whole.
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>>97901843
nooooo my sanctity
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>Build Jared Cartalion
>Left the deck mostly the same as the precon but replaced some bad multicolor bombs for even better bombs
>Biggest change I did was proxy out a god mana base.
>Calculate the exact number of rampspells and mana dorks I need to land Jared asap every game
>Almost always have him out turn 3 or 4
>Win a game pretty handily
>Someone gets salty over my proxy ABUR duals
>Bitches that "you don't need" those powerful lands to play my commander
Yeah, no. I'd rather play my commander every chance I can and not be cucked with shitty tap lands.
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>>97901822
I can hope.
Every person I've talked to about hybrid mana intentionally misunderstands the difference between intersection and cumulative in set theory
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>>97901166
I tried making a deck with this, but it was just too clunky consisitly getting his prepared state.
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>>97901681
Mono white Liliana who exudes purity and chastity from demons.
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>>97901858
I too like to play my commander Rograkh every chance I can and not be cucked by shitty taplands or timmy archetypes
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They should just bite the bullet and make a 0drop commander for every color truthnuke
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Will these be available in regular foil as well or is it just the silver foiling?
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>>97901915
who cares
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>>97901858
>This precon is so GOOD all I did was give it a 8k dollar mana base by calling up chang. I'm so fucking good and impressive at this game.
Riveting stuff.
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>>97901939
If taplands are just as good, then there is no argument against ABURs. The fact of the matter is: Taplands fucking suck and nothing sucks worse than not being able to play on curve because a shitty checkland or some other bullshit.
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>>97901858
They're kind of right. Shocks do the same job and 5c mana fixing is insanely easy these days. I keep pic related in my mono green kona to wax greedy 3c+ players who fill their decks to the gills with nonbasics.
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>>97902001
You don't NEED anything more than 34 dual tap lands. It is sure going to suck to play however
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>>97902009
you don't NEED anything more than 36 basics and a reliquary tower
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>>97902011
36 basics will be better to play than 36 tap lands
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>>97902001
Nah, I run 37 lands. 10 shocks, 10 ABURs, 2 of ever basic except for Swamp and Forest where I have once of each but run urborg/Yavimaya, then I run Seven fetch lands that search my forest and forest adjacent lands. I make sure I run enough basics for my rampant growths and cultivates to have a target and because this dude puts in major work when I land him turn 2 or 3.
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>>97902019
buhbuhbased
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>>97901858
They're right. Use shock or slow lands like the rest of us you faggot.
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>>97901858
>Why am I getting push back for being a faggot (and cheating as well)
Because you are a faggot.
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>>97901948
The fact of the matter is: Breach Thoracle is the best and nothing sucks worse than people telling me I shouldnt be so shameless while they themselves use ABUR duals that they can never afford just to play shitty wincons
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>>97902047
Breach Thoracle has been getting stomped at my local scene. The format adjusted. The meta has shifted to midrange. Counters are just too cheap and interaction is too viable for all colors combos now.
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>>97902052
>look at rog ishai guys!
>look guys the format shifted to midrange!!
>their wincon is still breach thoracle
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>>97901948
Tap lands do suck yes. Duals without a cost shouldn't exist though, and if they had any integrity they would just be banned.
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>>97902055
Unironcally, when is the last time you actually played a high level game? Rog is out.
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>>97902065
>rog is out
Lmao
Let me guess you're gonna say tymna and kinnan are passe too kek
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Why did they make Silverquill the shittiest college of the set?
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>>97902211
wizards fear her...
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>>97902228
This card isn't in the set
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>>97902233
exactly
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>>97901038
Just build a mono green elf deck and ask to play him
This is literally what rule 0 is for
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https://moxfield.com/decks/WocN0oFnp0uHKFpKD5WGwg
What are some good cards for this vibe? Just B2 breena and chill
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>>97902228
I tried playing Breena. Nobody gave a shit about the incentives and as soon as I started actually getting to drop counters they immediately arch enemied me.

Politics doesn't work in this game unless the card FORCES people to fuck with each other, like goad or pic related effects. Even then all you wind up doing is making yourself the focus since taking away player's agency is the surest way to paint a target on your back.
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>>97902305
It depends mostly on the mentality of the people you're playing with. It's not something you do with the intention of effectiveness regardless though.
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>>97902305
Have you try offering blowie jowie after the game yet?
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>>97902305
Politics works just fine in a dedicated pod.
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Y'shtola actually dethroned Krenko as the 4th most used commander. Does that make Krenko less slop?
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>>97902374
No. Goblins are the epitome of slop tribal alongside elves and merfolk and zombies and krenko is the sloppiest of the slop for goblin commanders.
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>>97902402
>>97902402
>>97902402
>>97902402
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>>97901287
never leave home with Eternal Witness
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>>97902047
the alpha beta duals dont even matter in commander because they functionally reprinted them with the shit like Morphic Pool, Luxury Suite, Spire Gardens

I still run a (real, French white border that I bought in 2009 for $25) Bayou in ADDITION to Underground stadium but you dont need the real duals unless youre really solid in green fetching a bunch.
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>>97900659
>directly linking gay porn is "fun stuff"
>b-but it's dey culcha
I hope you die mad about it
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>>97902228
>>97902305
The trouble I've found with Breena in particular, as someone who has played against her a handful of times, is that her text is just hard enough to read that my eyes glaze over and my mind tells me "kill this guy he's trying to do some sneaky shit". Something something draw cards, I don't care.

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