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>>97906027
>tq
Avacyn

>>97906027
Jace Beleren

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Thread Question
All the Innistrad angels.

>>97906027
Modern times? You could sort of grab-bag a few. Bolas is a grandiose and well-characterised villain, but I wouldn't necessarily call him INTERESTING for that. Jace is arguably their most complex recurring character, though awkward writing decisions and general inconsistency of tone with him have made it tricky to pin down all but a few core traits (which, I mean, that's not that weird, comics do it all the time, the majority of the X-men have like one core trait and the rest is wildly variable). Liliana I would say is similar, but she's also sort of languishing in basically... Her character development is 'done' and now it feels like she doesn't have much purpose to be in the stories.
Urza's not a modern character but I'd say he's up there too, though he suffers in a similar way to Jace where how he's written varies kind of wildly, and people have sort of post-facto figured out his broad characterisation as an asshole that was necessary. He's actually quite kindhearted in a few stories, like generally being good to Xantcha for example, but it's buried under the broader "genius immortal who cares not about the little people and only about the grander threat".
There's also 'intriguing' characters where I just wanna know more about them like Ashiok but there's not a whole lot to say on that front.

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>>97906027
>Who is the most interesting Magic character?
/ourgal/ Niko

>>97906027
Urza is a great shades-of-grey type of protagonist villain.

If you have not done pre release yet, pick the Prismari box. Do not pick golgari. Trust me on this

>>97906027
>Who is the most interesting Magic character?
Of all time?
Belbe or Kudro.

Loot is the most interesting character.

>>97906408
Went 3-0 with Silverquill, the creatures have a ton of synergy and grow very quickly

How did pre-release go for you guys?

>TQ
I like Sorin and Garruk so I'm gonna say them

>>97906408
>Do not pick golgari. Trust me on this
Dumbass retard cunt.

>accidentally fat fingered the drop out of the event button halfway through prerelease
fuck this shit at least they gave me an extra prize pack to make up for it

>>97906389
>gal
Erm, sweaty...

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>>97906534
literally lost every game, again. I'm so fucking shit at magic.

>>97906618
don't worry bro, that was me a decade ago and now I'm probably top 3 in the LGS, skills can be improved

>>97906623
I hope I get good one day I really do...

>>97906618
Time to play EDH

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Piggas, anything i should add?

>>97906534
3-0 Lorehold. Decent enough creatures and I had literally more removal than I could play.

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>>97906534
Also 3-0 Lorehold. Picrel and Antiquities on the Loose basically carried me. Also had the carrot Djinn, seemed a bit better than I initially thought. Could've double copied a spell with her plus Pigment Wrangler at one point, but having untapped attackers was better in that spot.

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>>97906534
I didn't think it'd sell out. The store I like is full all weekend with a page long wait list. Going to try at a different, shittier lgs tomorrow.

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>>97906027
>>97906047
>TQ
Tamiyo RIP

Heh
https://cardboard-crack.com/post/813483137045774336/strixhaven-tokens

>>97906806
>>97906733
Same here! I guess Lorehold happens to be pretty strong in its set.

I'm back in at this set after getting out for an extended period because of annoyance with that Universes Beyond bullshit.

I want to start doing drafts again at the small local shops that support it and pull up to some of the EDH/Commander nights too.

What's fun to play lately? Is Standard any good or would I still just die to Mono-Black Trash?

Also, I've been wondering for a while, ia there some way to be able to evaluate card values as I open packs and stuff without having to painstakingly go through and look up every card on TCG Player? Money isn't like a huge concern for me now, but it would be neat if I could kind of make my money back as I play while not hoarding too many piles of cardboard.

>>97906844
I like the new mechanics for the most part but fuck wotc for this one.
>put lessons in standard
>do strixhaven again
>no learn (or any new lessons)
>rotate students for an uglier and lamer cast (yes even the niggress headlining quandrix was at least cute and funny for being so in-your-face "WE WUZ MATHEMATICIANS AND SHIET"
>no Lili
>minor nerf to every token just to print new ones
>locked the cooler art for every mystical archive behind collector boosters and then had the GALL to release the the shittiest among them as a secret lair
They are so scared of making a slam dunk in UW. I will hope no amount of pushing and shilling will make marvel not flop (it won't fucking flop). I will pray that star trek is Atari E.T. tier and I experience it by pulling a case from a dumpster (and the rest of the cases are sold for drinks and snacks for that draft). I think they'll even sabotage reality fracture to not make UB look pointless.

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probably a way to get off in standard but I'm not going to look for it.

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Doing a pre release tomorrow, can you guys redpill me on what's good, what cards are actual build around, what archetypes are worth forcing, how much removal I should run in this set, etc.? I didn't have time to study this set at all.

>>97906690
I played it once. So boring. I’d rather play 4 person cube.

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it was fun while it lasted, soon we'll be back to our regularly scheduled tokenslop and equipmentslop for boros.

>>97907108
I really feel like RW should be a big red style archetype. Theme it around divine wrath and all that. Big R bombs backed up by W removal and protection. The token shit is shared by too many color pairs. Equipment is fine but you can't do that every time.

>every color
>look inside
>it's black mechanic

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what Magic colors are Vivec?

>>97907189
Black/Blue
>opportunistic fuck that betrayed his bestie for godlike power
>infinite wisdom to the point he knows you can just save/load your way to kill him

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>>97907108
I'm a relative newfag to MtG and I was confused when I saw that RW was getting the opposite of its core identity in this new set, I get that the schools have nothing to do with the Ravnica guilds but still.
Golgari/Izzet/Simic are very very similar to their SoS counterparts while Boros and Orzhov feel like they've switched places altogether; I remember first seeing picrel and genuinely thinking it was a printing mistake because it's one of the least mechanically B creatures I could think of
But I'm also a newfag so I could be missing a lot

>>97907052
>spoiling the fun of a pre-release
for what purpose?

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>>97906431
>Belbe
My beautiful cinnamon roll ;_;7

>>97906389
>Calix
>Gideon Jura
>Niko Aris
>Xenagos
I don't know why Theros doesn't have cooler PWs considering how much time and effort has been spent on creative development of the plane.

>>97907558
It's because of DEI. We all know this anon. DEI is the killer of anything creative or interesting

>>97907189
A case can be made for everything except green

>>97906915
We did have 5 new lessons you idiot.

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>>97907690

>>97906989
Wow 12 mana to do nothing!

>>97907279
Blacks always been a bit of a "jack of all trades colour" it gets access to the widest range of tools but usually not quite as strongly as other colours

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>>97907052
Quandrix seems the best. The removal seems terrible so it seems like a splash black format.

>>97907189
Blue/Red

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>>97907715
Ok, that makes a lot of sense now that I think about it
Still, there's 82 B cards that deal with +1/+1 counters and most seem tied cannibalising other creatures/emptying graveyards/paying life (yours or your opponent's); Adventurous Eater still reads extremely W to me, feels right at home in the most basic lifelink deck alongside Ajani's Pridemate and especially Exemplar of Light
Also unrelated but holy fug what a shame that picrel is so awful, the flavour is top notch

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>>97907279
I looked up monoblack creature cards that give counters to other creatures and their are only about 70 them. Most of them specify that the creature must have a specific quality, such as lifelink or being a dragon, and others require the creature to be attacking or having to deal damage.

>great art wasted on a draft chaff uncommon
Many such cases. Too many. They should curate it more.

>>97906989
Would it be easier to just make the conductor no longer be a Pilot? He could then flicker himself infinitely.

Are they doing a Pride event this year?

>>97907812
every game of this trash is a pride event

>>97907812
How could they top Bearscape?

>>97906912
>What's fun to play lately? Is Standard any good or would I still just die to Mono-Black Trash?
Mono-black hasn't been good for a while now, but Standard kinda sucks for playing on paper right now because the cheapest viable decks start at $300. Some of those decks are fun to play, but I'd only joining paper Standard is only worth it if you're already in the habit of grinding the format on Arena.
I recommend trying Pauper, if you have a local scene for it. A top-tier deck costs $30-70, and it has an open meta with many viable archetypes.

>Also, I've been wondering for a while, ia there some way to be able to evaluate card values as I open packs and stuff without having to painstakingly go through and look up every card on TCG Player?
Moxfield lets you sort all the cards in a set by price in USD, and open them in a spreadsheet-style view so you can view all of them quickly.
Also, each set is only gonna have like 10-15 money cards in draft boosters, and (usually) all of those will be rare or mythic rarity, so it's something you can ignore in most of your draft picks (whenever there's only commons and uncommons left in the left in the pack)

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>>97907812
i hope so!
really hyped for what they might cook this year! :3

>>97907832
did I actually type moxfield, I meant scryfall
moxfield is the deck builder site, scryfall is the one for exploring the cards in a set
both are useful tools, though

anyways, is there anywhere I can play drafts online without needing to pay for them? Something like untap or cockatrice, but with a live community for limited formats. I want to git gud at limited, but without becoming a paypig in the process.

Sealed Strixhaven is pretty fun.

>>97907108
Once again, the Ravnica two-colour identities have done irreparable damage to card design over the years. W/R absolutely has to be combat oriented! You just can't do anything else with it! Why even try? It hurts their brains too much to even grasp a slightly different concept for it.

Note that this goes for all Ravnica pairs, but still.

>>97906989
>probably a way to get off in standard
you mean pioneer? storm-kiln artist has been out of standard for almost 4 years, it wasn't reprinted in the second strixhaven set

Sealed is a valid form of Magic: the Gathering

>>97906027
>Who is the most interesting Magic character?
Avacyn

>>97908309
You don't believe that.

I finished reading Edge of Eternities. It was good. Is there anything else worth reading?

I got back into Magic with Final Fantasy. Found out kids are now playing a new Commander format and I've ended up mostly playing on Arena. But I made paper deck of my Chocobo landfall deck.

Hit up my LGS and some regulars told me a bunch of Standard players were around. I go up and ask but they said they didn't bring their decks maybe next time. Then they asked if I knew about Planar Standard and explained it's a new 60 card format without UB and went on a rant about how they're playing Magic, not Spongebob or Spider-Man.

Back to square one, I guess.

>>97906027
>TQ
Gay Bolas

>>97908423
You do believe that.

>>97908371
https://www.docdroid.net/f3zSDG0/children-of-the-nameless-pdf

>>97908371
Are the people in EoE aware of most of the multiverse that are still in a fantasy setting?

Sup bros, need someone to answer me this mechanical question:
Lets say i have access to 4 kinds of mana, white, blue, black and green.
Can i use green mana as part of 2 grey mana to cast archaic so it could come with 4 counters on field?

dunno if this is the right thread/place for this, but whatever:
What's a good/decent condition Gaea's Cradle worth really these days?
I've seen some really high prices but I have no idea what value cards really have, why, and how it's projected to develop into the future.
I'm not looking for investment advice, I'm just trying to understand what this piece of cardboard is worth and why?
Something about a reserved list?

>>97908438
Maybe the drix. The multiverse is walled of to the Edge.

>>97908466
Yes

>>97908381
based lgs

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>>97908466
Sorry forgot pic about card in question

>>97908478
Thank you

Decided to check lgs in my country (eastern europe)
SOS prerelease had 40 people signed up
TMNT prerelease had 20
SOS "friendly draft" (whatever that means) already has 16 people signed up this sunday
TMNT draft NEVER EVER managed to get enough people (8) to sign up.

Its official, we won this round UW bros

>>97908473
decent GC is worth ~1500$, will probably keep rising
reserved list means it won't get reprinted, further adding to its value
it has value since it has a strong mechanic that's not easy to reproduce and is pretty universal

What kit should I pick today?

>>97908535
I assume you picked blue red yesterday so today you should pick green black.

>>97908473
>>97908511
it's literally the best land thre is

>>97908473
If you happened to be gaia cradle owner, congratz.
Reasons why GC constantly growth in value are simple:
1) it is one of strongest cards in mtg
2) in addition to being one of strongest cards in mtg it is also a land which is always great
3) every green commander wants it in his deck
I personally dont think its price will continue to increase at current pace, so would advise to sell it. However i also dont think its price will ever drop too.

>>97908539
Tolarian academy is better

>>97908553
in commander it's probably the best

>>97908538
I didn't play yesterday, but I was thinking Witherbloom, yeah.

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>>97907052
I went 3-0 with Silverquil. I'm still not sure what the best school is, but the worst is probably Lorehold. There's really not as much removal as a typical set, so a WB aggro deck can easily punish the big greedy decks with a mix of cheap creatures, combat tricks, and ways to tap blockers.

>>97908535
If you want to win: Izzet
If you want to have fun deck: Golgari or Simic and go for converge
If you want fun gameplay: Boros
If you want to have boring but strong deck: Orzhov

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>>97908575
>If you want to win: Izzet
blue-redpill me why

>>97908580
The most simple and straight forward gameplan in game:
Get value for casting spells
Get more value for casting >5cmc spells
Set is all about spells.

Red removal is great in this set, blue card value is insane in this set.

I just realized the mtg cards me and my brother had as kids would be worth tens of thousands nowadays, easily
he sold them for pennies ~20 years ago to fuel his drug addiction
at least he's been clean for a long while now, which is the most important thing obviously, but fuck me man, could've use that windfall
had mox cards, dual lands, time walks, some urza-editions reserved list cards etc.

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Was playing kitchen table with my mum this afternoon and had a moment where I played pic related and paid the additional cost, and she flashed in something to give the target hexproof. I wasn't entirely certain, but I ruled that I had already paid the additional cost, so there was no taking that back, but because the first part of the spell no longer had a valid target the whole thing fizzled and I didn't gain 2 life. Was I correct?

Gonna piggyback on the other guys post: should I hold or flip the JP Strixhaven Force of Will? Not silver scroll sadly.

How is SOS compared to UB last sets?

>>97908626
Correct ruling

>>97908626
You do not get the two life, part resolutions are if they are separate paragraphs. This will feel confusing because there are very similar cards that would resolve because they're worded to have less restrictive target clauses. Like cards that say "destroy target creature if it is white".

>>97908620
this is clearly the sign the scalp the league of legends card game or buy penny stocks or whatever.

>>97908652
>>97908660
Nice. Wasn't aware of the significance of the separate paragraphs, though, that's good to know.

>>97908664
heh

>>97908637
Better than Turtles or Spiderman
Worse than FF or Avatar

>>97908438
For the most part they don't. IIRC the discovery of the multiverse is a very recent development in the Edge's scientific community.

What's fucked up about the Edge is that they are aware that their universe is shaped like a torus and they inhabit the annulus between the two Walls, but chose to call their universe the Edge instead of the Annulus.

>>97908637
Better than all of them.

>>97908727
Trans post.

>>97908971
I wish JOTC kikes would get out of White’s annulus

SoS sealed reminded me a lot of WAR limited. Lots of fun and cool cross-color (in the case of SoS cross faction) synergies that lead to really fun and interesting game states... completely ruined by outrageously strong bombs that just win the game by themselves.

The number of bombs does seem lower so there will be more fun back and forth matches than 'I played the I-Win-Card before my opponent did' matches.

I would love to see the G/B uncommon legend in a deck with either red or white Lorehold cards that want cards leaving the graveyard. The 3/4 menace that makes a 2/2 for example just seems like it would be so cool.

>>97908179
I could have specified "there's probably something in standard to enable this instead of storm-kiln artist"
>>97907701
there's also probably something that can get something out of this (infinite etb+spellcasts) but at that point it's almost certainly a 4 card combo, hence why I'm not bothering to look.
>>97907786
Maybe. You'd still need 1 blue to be made every time.

>>97908113
Maybe making every color pair do something different in every plane IS too much work, you can still throw some shit at the wall man. This >>97907134 could definitely just be thrown in somewhere. It was kind of the giants in lorwyn eclipsed if you squint.

>>97908996
The Edge belongs to the True Faith, Summists can fuck off.

>>97908980
Say what you want about UB or FF or Avatar as IPs, but at least FIN and TLA both had 10 limited archetypes.

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Thighjob from Kiora

I only came back because of FF. I think the art is great and the mechanics are mostly alright.

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>mtg sales keep increasing
>more and more lgses closing down
something's not adding up

>>97909200
If she's scaly like a fish you're in for some bad chafing.

>>97909254
It's all localized in Nebraska. I visited there last week and it's like the old Starbucks jokes from the early 2000s. There is LITERALLY an LGS every thirty steps and they are ALL flourishing.

>>97909223
Fuck off, pig.

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>>97909275
Do you see scales anywhere?

>>97908381
Planar Standard is based as fuck. Play the FINAL FANTASY TCG if you want to play FF.

>>97909298
Yes

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This ugly son of a bitch is sleeping with super hot Phyrexians and basically you are fucking stupid.

>>97909254
LGS's have trouble competing against the various chains like stupid fucking Chipotle and Crumbl Cookies. Those bastards want ALL the real estate. Oh, and let's not forget luxury apartments...

>>97909423
Let's also not forget the God damn horrible piece of shit medical companies...

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>Was hoping to get Witherbloom or Quandrix for prerelease
>Only one left was Lorehold (4 left, no one else wanted them either)
>Got a couple decent cards in the seeded pack
>25% of the rest of my packs were duplicate commons, mainly 4 Tackle Artist and 4 Owlin Historian
>Most of my rares were Prismari, including two Zaffai
>The only Lorehold-related stuff I got was a bunch of cards that cared about cards leaving the graveyard and two flashback spells, plus the signpost uncommon
>Didn't wanna have Tackle Artist as my wincon, so I just ran all my best draw spells across both with The Dawning Archaic
>Get destroyed round one by Quandrix
>Drop out
Even if I should've went all in on Tackle Artist, I wouldn't have had any fun doing that.

>>97909483
I've lost almost every book store within 20 miles of my house to medical buildings, shame really.

>>97909501
I wish that anyone who visits a doctor more than three times a year would get fucking euthanised by one, stupid goddam pussies.

I AM A PIG AND I EAT SLOP

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Am I getting scammed? Did I get bootleg cards at the pre-release?
If you can't tell the same cards are printed with different colors and they are badly miscut/off center

>>97909555
just jotc quality control.

>>97909555
>>97909562
Yeah, the set has a loooot of standard deviation in its printing.

>>97909501
>drop out of prerelease
cringe

>>97909551
>got fish deck
>got no pig deck
Maro needs to get on this.

>>97909555
nobody is going to scam commons and uncommons

>>97909254
>>97909283
Anecdotes aren't data of course, but two new LGSes opened in my city over the last two years in addition to the three that already are established here. As a whole the shops are probably making more money in Pokemon than in Magic, but they're all still having regular and consistent event turnouts.
>t. Resident of a Colorado city of about 100k people

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>>97906027
>TQ
Estrid.

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>>97906047
>>97906056
>>97908309
Thalia is cuter.

>>97908568
This card is good, it will see play in standard.

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>>97910194
Well, no, but at least you picked my favorite art.

>>97910311
The FFXIII saga was a trip.

>>97907052
I went 3-0 today playing RUG goodstuff midrange.

Silverquill was the only matchup I saw that made me actually sweat. It has a low mana curve and tons of removal, so it can blitz to 20 damage before other builds get to turn the corner.

Important note: be prepared to build different colors than the ones on your prerelease box. I did some simulated builds on draftsim to prepare, and the seeded pack only had the best archetype in the pool ~50% of the time. Most of the rares in this set feel really pushed, you have a lot of options for build-arounds.

I didn't realize until after the event ended that both I and my opponents were misreading my Wildgrowth Archaic's creature buff ability the entire time

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We need him back. We need testosterone back.

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>>97910519
Truly a man's man

>>97910519
He was in dft.

>>97910546
Astonishing that they never hatefucked.

>>97910590
Saving it for Ugin and Bolas, evidently.

>>97910546
When is Lili getting her BG card? She hasn't fit the monoblack mold since Gideon died.

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For some reason I just hate this secret lair. I went all in on Dandan and the D&D one. But this one is just fucking rubbish. They censored the panty shot. The DF cards are low effort screenshots. The return to mystical archive cards look good but are worth jack shit. The eyes look kind of cool but are also worth jack shit. And fucking PONY CARDS FUCKING FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC GOD I HATE BRONIES THEY ARE SO FUCKING CRINGE HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!

I wanted to consoom but wotc don't want my money. They just want to slap me in the fucking face.

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>>97910641
Honestly I'm relieved when they do SL drops that are dogshit, since then I'm not gonna get fomo'd nor am I opening my wallet.
I will say the Dwarf Fortress SL is really funny but I ain't buying that shit even if it has Terror of the Peaks.

>>97910638
They'd need someone to take over the spot of monoblack planeswalker, they're not going to toss away the dommy mommy big tiddy goth that easily.

>>97910660
Liliana was desparked so she doesn't fill that spot either way. And I think Ashiok shed the blue to become the most recent monoblack planeswalker.

Ral is the new mono black planeswalker.
Liliana will be white.

>>97908493
Yes, you decide how you are paying costs as part of casting.

>>97910699
>Liliana is mono W
>Just so she can get BLACKED again in Reality Fracture

dead game

dead general

>>97910519

just admit you're gay and want a leather daddy

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>>97908535
>tfw 1-1-1
Fucking Essence Scatter

>>97909868
>asking a kike to promote a deck based around swine
Um, goyim…

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>>97909555
>We needed to make viashino into lizards and cephalids into octopus
>Anyways here's giraffes to even further fragment beasts

>>97909555
Those are real, you can tell by the awful quality LMAO

this set is bad

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>>97909555
>/ourguys/ BL, Ron, and USea are recognizable because they're too high quality in comparison at this point

>>97910651
No dorfs in the dorf fortress secret lair not even a token it's a no buy from me

>>97910961
There is nothing else to play. :(
Pokémon is meta decks only or you just die.
Yu-Gi-Oh! you just die.
Everything else doesn't have enough players.

>>97911398
Enjoy it! There's one more non crossover set for the rest of the year HAHAHAHAHA

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pre-release keeps paying for itself.

>>97911434
i'm just not gonna buy it (the slop)

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Just hold on until November

Went 2-1 with prismari, don't think I got a single mythic. I JUST WANT MY LIGHTNING BOOK ON A STICK!!!
>>97910641
>asano inio
JotC is faultless in this case, they didn't censor shit.

>>97906534
I went 2-1. All my games were stupidly fast and I spent most of my time waiting around because every match of mine was over in 15 minutes. I may have spent more time building the thin than playing.

Was B/W/R with the red being a splash (I chose the silverquill kit) Notable pull was a foil Lorehold, The Historian

>>97909101
The thing is you can still do different things even within broader themes. BR is a good example where they actually do a decent job of mixing it up. While it mostly sticks to "aggro", "sacrifice" or "burn" as the game plans they do a good job of adding different spins within those archetypes so it still feels different enough despite being in the same area. Bloomburrow Lizard aggro plays out different to Avatar Fire bending aggro despite being the same macro archetype, ECL goblins were a pretty unique take on sacrifice being more midrangey and using blight instead of conventional sac costs etc.

But then you get stuff like WR as mentioned before or even worse, GW which is almost always +1/+1 counters or go wide with almost no variance whatsoever and they are clearly phoning it in.

>>97911420
>No dorfs in the dorf fortress secret lair
Surely you jestin

>>97909555
Welcome to WotC QC. The Chinaman QC is better than this.

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>>97911559
If it's a decent draft environment I will unironically make a Star Trek set cube. I feel like there has to be some clever name for it. Borg Cube? 5d cube? Trek Cube? Star Cube? I got nothing, I'm too fucking tired.

Tuvix needs his own card. If there is no Tuvix card we riot. Tuvix was literally murdered by Janeway. She's a psycho!

>>97910638
You got Dellian Fel, that's your Golgari walker from now on, be grateful.

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I cannot imagine what the art brief was for this.

>>97912166
"Witherbloom student looking ecstatic while staring at a flask containing a leech" or something to that effect, if I were to guess.

>>97912166
>Fat niggeress with a leech in a bottle

>>97912166
she needs some face tatts or paint or something to sell the "warlock" , it just looks like a stock photo portrait.

>>97912210
>it just looks like a stock photo portrait.
That's 90% of MtG art. Is it even worth hiring artists when you could just put stock photos through AI filters and receive the same end product?

>>97912232
Yes.

>>97912232
I'm convinced they often do that.

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>>97912166
"Terrifying leech on society figuratively and literally" with a winking emoji at the end

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>>97907694
Why did they let this rez creatures?
Enduring Ideal was cool because it ordered you to win without boring combat, this is just "keep getting the biggest beatsticks from the yard"

>>97912384
The fez is an underutilized article of headwear in fantastical character design. More fantasy characters should wear a fez.

>>97911879
They say this is intended. They want 70-80% of the draft archetypes to be familiar and samey from set to set so each draft has something familiar and easy to grab onto for someone with little knowledge of that specific set. The the other 20-40% of archetypes get to be a new spin in their color pairs. Unfortunate that RW and GW are often the boring samey ones.

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>>97906054
He should stop wasting time on duplicating the multiverse and instead get to the bottom of why sphinxes on every plane are either worthless or malicious.

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I need a single old frame basic forest and basic mountain for my creative technique deck, preferably basic with text. I'm leaning towards this for the mountain but it doesn't pair with anything but the (arena) Mirage forests which are too obvious a choice. Any alternate suggestions?

>>97912407
That mountain looks great. Didn't know about the Arena league or whatever it was called. Shame it's so expensive.

I'm a big fan of a lot of the Euro lands. The forests from France and Germany both look great. Also the Portal 2nd Age Doorway mountain (162). For ones with text specifically I would suggest:
>Mountain
-Ice Age (Any but especially 378)
-Mirage 343
-5th ED 443 and 445 (white border unfortunately)
-Urza's Saga (any)
>Forest
-Ice Age 380 and 381
-Mirage 351
-Urza's Saga 347
There aren't too many good Forest arts with text in my opinion.

I want to try out legacy. Are there any decks so simple even a drunken monkey could pilot it?

>>97913062
>Are there any decks so simple even a drunken monkey could pilot it?
oops all spells until it eventually gets banned, then I think red stompy might be the easiest

>>97911975
Make a battle box and call it the Holodeck.

>>97911975
My hope is for DOCTOR CHAOTICA, RULER OF THE COSMOS to get a Vivi-tier format breaking card.

>>97906534
6-0, went to 2 back to back and didn't lose a single round.
Lorehold then Witherbloom.
LH is probably the strongest, easy wins and I was just lucky with WB by pulling 2 Emeritus's and focusing on low curve synergy.

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>People excited for Star Trek
Every single day, we stray further from God's light

>>97913817
People are not, in fact, excited for Star Trek.
Do not allow yourself to be gaslit.

>>97913817
Then what am I supposed to get excited for? Marvel Superheroes?

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>>97913817
It's the best of the worst.

>>97913842
>Then what am I supposed to get excited for?
Return to Ikoria.

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You don't know how much I loathe this goddamn rat, you have no idea.

>>97913913
for me, it's Return to Muraganda

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>>97913998
>for me, it's Return to Muraganda
Ah yes, Muraganda. Home to the beautiful highways of Aetherdrift.

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>>97913817
We'll see if it holds, but lately I've getting into the conversation about UB with people at LGS. My stance has always been "if you allow some of it, you allow all of it" so I as a policy do not buy or play UB cards. Lately people have been more receptive to my stance, particularly when the conversation includes some of the less popular UBs. I expect Hobbit will still do very well this year, but Marvel and Star Trek are in question. Things will probably drift more towards an average between my extreme stance and that of hard line UB enjoyers, that being "traditional fantasy UBs that mesh with Magic are acceptable and others are not." I don't like that outcome, but it's better than the alternative. And my stance will not change.

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>>97914017
based, Muraganda can be a Route 66-esque roadtrip set with a subtheme of raping the untamed wilderness with burgerpunk interstate exits

>>97914031
>based, Muraganda can be a Route 66-esque roadtrip set with a subtheme of raping the untamed wilderness with burgerpunk interstate exits
Return to Muraganda, but it's Burgerpunk now?
Rev up those fryers, because I'm thinking that's a big meal deal of kino with a side of fries!

In all the history of MTG only 13 cards with the Clown creature type have been made. Outside of Unfinity, only 3 Clown cards exist. Outside of Duskmourn: House of Horror, there are no Clowns. It's an unfunny multiverse.

>>97914037
The only clowns Magic needs are its players

>>97913817
Shills aren't people

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>>97914035
Anonymous, Wary Traveler 2W 3/3
Haste, Vigilance, Protection From Black

When Anonymous or any other white creature enters, tap target nonwhite creature and place a stun counter on it.
Max Speed - Instead of placing a stun counter, destroy target nonwhite creature.

"With a car, you can go anywhere you want."

>>97914037
Wizards has unequivocally succeeded in their endeavor to "expand" what Magic means to the point that yeah, we don't bat an eye at clowns outside of un-sets. Try that shit ten years ago and it would have been a revolt. I feel sometimes like a frog being slowly boiled so I don't notice the increasing temperature. I feel that way in most aspects of life.

>>97914037
I expect they'll add more Rakdos clowns in the next Ravnica set.

>>97914037
>>97914106
Hat sets like DSK don't count anyway.

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Abrace a tradição.
Venha pro prémoderno, /tg/.
Venha pra casa...

>>97913817
Anon, it is literally one guy posting it to gaslight you and you fell for it. Absolutely no one, not even Star Trek fans, is looking forward to the MtG set.

>>97914143
At risk of responding to bait, Duskmourn had just enough going on to surpass the worldbuilding catastrophes seen in MKM and OTJ. Yes the returning characters embodied slasher movie archetypes, but it was nothing close to Rakdos in a cowboy hat. The haunted house was a lot more fleshed out than OTJ's no history but with cemeteries and the utter assassination of Ravnica. If I were being charitable I would say that Duskmourn is a hat set done right, if such a thing is even possible.

>>97914199
is premodern really the best format to play with white creatures?

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>>97914143
I think it's more accurate to call Duskmourn a theme park set than a hat set.

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>>97914245
Yes

>>97914248
Accurate

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>>97914199
Is there like a premodern store finder tool available yet?

>>97914263
that one reminds me of lovisa

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>pick silverquill prerelease kit
>open the five normal play boosters before the seeded one, sort them by colour combinations
>get this
Is this a fucking windup? Am I being filmed? Is Nosewater going to come throw a bucket of water on me while everyone laughs?

>>97911975
hypercube

>>97912166
>a leech on society, who enjoys collecting creatures and putting them in jars

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This fucking company.

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>>97914300

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>>97914245
I get the impression white is the strongest colour in modern but I haven't played that format for over a year; the legacy deck that's almost identical but with wasteland and plow is also tier 1 - who would've thought? You could also play MWI in vintage or one of the Lurrus energy or hatebear variants. If you want to play a truly classic white weenie deck however there is no other option than premodern.

>>97914271
No because it's not an official format. Also because the overwhelming majority of premodern events are proxy friendly

>>97914324
You are genuinely looking pretty good pre seeded booster desu
crack that shit, pick your 15 best silverquill creatures and 7 best spells and go to town
you'd have to be having a pretty bad seeded pack to not get there desu, and if not you have options
This is winnable
What did you get in the seeded pack?

>>97914366
>No because it's not an official format. Also because the overwhelming majority of premodern events are proxy friendly
I assumed it would be player-driven and not wotc affiliated

>>97913982
>play Arena
>opponent playing W aggro enchantment deck
>always leaves one mana open
>always keeps the same one card in his hand
>always plays like a dumb monkey
Classic

>>97914411
sometimes you just gotta make them have it

>>97914359
lol
lmao even

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>>97913817
What does God need with a card game?

>>97914411
forgot to add
>eventually draw my own removal (Sheltered by Ghosts)
>target his auras instead of his creature
>dumb monkey still SCRAMBLES to cast Rescue on the creature anyway
It's one of the things you can't do with paper, because you gotta clearly state what you're targetting first, and Arena's UI is shit enough it can be hard to distinguish what's being exiled
But holy fuck it's satisfying

>>97914018
>"if you allow some of it, you allow all of it"
Funny enough the same idea has led to an increase in approval for UB in my area. People who like Final Fantasy, or Avatar, or Edge of Eternities decide that it would be hypocritical to judge enjoyers of New York block.

>>97913817
I am prepared to tolerate Star Trek because it was somewhat foundational to the game, being the basis for the Weatherlight saga and, before that, the concept of planeswalking I believe. I still will not likely be buying in, however. Maybe I'll grab some Commander decks to play unmodified against my boomer dad who loves Star Trek.

>>97914411
>>97914427
I play UW control and fucking love that match up. So satisfying to Get Lost a Sheltered with Starcage under it during combat.

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nice game you have here

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>>97914473
>UW control
Do not reply to my posts ever again

>>97914489
In response to your post I cast Three Steps Ahead for five mana to counter your reply and draw two discard one.

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>>97914498
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SOMEONE STOP HIM

>>97913817
Star Trek an any fucking UB that is from Sci-Fi modern times is an insult, with Hobbit and FF you can try and disguise it of Magic adjacent, even if still shit but the fucking Sci-fi with phasers and spaceships makes me wanna puke
They made EoE precisely to test the waters and try to fool people the space is fine applied to MtG but is false, is hot shit. So only the most retarded pigs will buy it.
But what really makes it bad it will bring to this game one of the worse fandoms in existence. So don't be fooled ot a single real Magic player is excited for this.

>>97914473
based i can't stand curters either and between the mass cheap removal and high noon you literally slap izzet on the face.

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>>97914248
>Furnace rooms full of suffocating heat. Stairways that end in abrupt drops into vents of sulfurous fire. Hallways whose walls are slashed with rips glowing a vivid, infected red. Scorched, blackened, fire-ravaged junk rooms.
>The Boilerbilges is characterized by the most overtly treacherous terrain in the House, full of precipitous drops, jagged architecture, and belching flames. It's also prone to violent, destructive events, like earthquakes and fire twisters, making survival in this zone an even less likely prospect than normal.
Okay, so the description basically reads like the industrial dreamscape of Freddy Krueger. How does that translate card art? Circus tents and rollercoaster rides!

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>>97914522
I'm not on High Noon, but I might consider it. My game one is solid against most izzet builds now, I just have trouble with Ral out of the board and am hoping Erode helps shore that up.
I'm also planning to work on a mardu burn list with 8 lightning helixes, if I have any success I'll share the list for fellow creatureless enjoyers.

>>97914369
That was several hours ago. I went 1-2 0-2 and then 2-0 against a guy who had no idea what he was doing. There was some nice stuff in the seeded pack but not enough for a proper focused silverquill deck, I'm pretty sure I only had 2 or maybe 3 repartee triggers even after the seeded pack - enough WB stuff to cobble together a WB deck, sure, but not one that benefited from any of the synergies of the archetype. I ended up with a weird WBG mishmash that was largely witherbloom at its core with the best W/WB stuff thrown in almost out of embarrassment. It had no real ways of getting out of control aside from Dellian, just didn't really work out. Think it could have gone better than it did, in fairness, I had some pretty dismal draws, but still don't think the deck was very good.

>>97914563
>nails styled like fountain pen
Cute.

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>someone won the Pre FIRE league on magic online with a living end pile
based???

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Lost 2 matches in the pre release to this piece of shit. Why the fuck is the flashback so cheap. Fucking nigger jew cunt shit.

Just went to a prerelease where I opened the Blue Paradigm and the Blue Emeritus. What retard thought it was okay to print those two cards in the same set?

>>97914884
A...strong white card?

The paradigm cycle seems like the most broken cycle of limited cards in a LONG time. Other than maybe the white one, it seems literally impossible to lose a game where you resolve one.

>play grixis
>lose
a tale as old as time itself

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>Wesley Crusher is currently in 82% of LEGACY decks
>He's now a staple in fucking Vintage shops
>Q, Immortal Trickster to Game Changer
>Wall of "No changes"
What the fuck are these retards doing? Every fucking line of text on this card is a problem AND IT HAS A WARD COST LARGER THAN ITS FUCKING MANA COST ON TOP OF THAT.

>>97915060
i have no idea what you're talking about

>>97914969
No. It's dogshit in constructed. It's just a dumb limited bomb unplayable anywhere else.

>>97915060
Is this a grok post?

>>97914884
>Why the fuck is the flashback so cheap.
Because practicing makes them better at doing it the second time, duh.

>>97915060
shut up wesley

>>97914558
>Empty foyers that ring with eerie silence. Corridors lined with uncanny marble statues and draped with white fabric that ripples in unfelt breezes. Cobwebbed attics beneath towering arched eaves. Stacked terraces drowning beneath ceaseless eroding sand.
>The Mistmoors is full of vast, echoing spaces that unsettle and unnerve. Rooms in this zone are typically characterized by white stone architecture, billowing drapes, drifts of windblown sand, and flat gray skies with no visible sun.
So the pitch for this area of the House is that it has rooms, and the rooms are big and well lit and empty and quiet. What kind of monsters are staples of this area? None, mostly the place is just as empty as it looks.

>>97915104
I regret to inform you that it will absolutely see constructed play as well (when cast from the yard).

>>97910519
>Fay Dalton
You've got some Trouble in those Pairs, not testosterone.

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>the set symbol of the game's most infamous hat set to date is literally a hat
Were they being cheeky when they did this?

>Shut Up, Wesley
>U
>Instant
>You may return an Island you control to its owner's hand rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
>This spell can't be countered.
>Counter target spell, activated ability or triggered ability.
>"Shut up, Wesley."

Hire me, WotC.

>>97915468
make it a common so we can ruin Pauper

>>97915473
Good idea. It'll be a Common found in Commander Decks.

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SOON
black Snape tho

>>97915503
Incredible how culture war shitters are suddenly fine with race swaps now because the people they hate now hate the author. People have no ideals stronger than a sports rivalry lol.

>>97915524
The greatest discovery that humankind ever made was that people are united by hate. They don't like their own community either, but their hatred for other communities control their actions.

>>97915532
I guess it really shouldn't be surprising especially in a Magic context, tribalism is ingrained so deeply that one of the most popular settings of the game is the one where color combos are made into real factions for people to argue over.

>>97914969
Mono white is still eternally at 1.4% of the Standard meta share after 8 years of kikety fire design. Don’t ever expect that to change. KHW. (Kikes Hate White)

>>97915524
JK Rowling was the one who originally made the first race swap with Hermione not being canonically White.

SoS is gonna be good hopefully, but I'll be the first to admit the unique mechanics are less than exciting.

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>>97914359
I ALREADY HAVE A BAD TIME DODGING TO PLAY NIGGAS WITH TURTLES AND SPIDER CARDS DONT BRING IN SW FAGS IN TOO
AAAAAAAAAAAA I FUCKING HATE MARO AND THIS NIGGER GAME SO BAD AAAAAA

Joga

Prémoderno

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>>97914558
That's because the carnival is in the Mistmoors not the Boilerbilges.

>>97915524
I don't think it's so much that people are okay with the race swaps as they are amused that far left whackadoos who normally advocate for that sort of thing are now using it as a bludgeon, and that Warner decrees the lynching victim be blackface'd in the name of progress.

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>>97914359
Surely these are fakes. Surely we are not about to be inundated with the worst nigger slop media ever conceived that makes every previous UB look like high art by comparison.

SURELY.

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>>97915204
These seem to be the only common monsters. It mostly serves a cultist conversion center

>>97914884
PRACTICED offense, anon!

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I hate glimmers.

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I hate gremlins.

>>97906534
I got the Prismari box since I arrived late. Then the Opus was OP and took me to fourth place.

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I hate toys.

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I hate clowns.

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I hate beasties.

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I hate survivors.

>>97915795
That was so stupidly unnecessary. It was a stage production, there's a tradition going back hundreds of years of not casting actors who physically match the characters they're playing - men playing women, women playing boys, whites playing blacks and vice versa - and she could have just pointed to that and been completely in the clear. Instead she throws her credibility under the bus trying to claim that a character born around 1980 to a pair of dentists in Surrey, with the most stereotypically upper middle class name imaginable, described in various places as pale, was in fact black all along. Utterly pointless. And I'll note I don't even have a problem with gay Dumbledore - I think that checks out perfectly well with what else is known of the character's history, and is actually quite a good example of where it would make sense to conceive a character as gay without it being relevant to the plot or even being mentioned or alluded to at all within the text. But now I'd be reluctant to even bother defending her on that one because of how much she debased herself with the Hermione thing.

>>97916456
>>97916452
>>97916449
>>97916444
>>97916439
>>97916438
look at all this creature type bloat! we NEED to get rid of viashino, cephalid!!

Can someone justify Loot to me? He got three cards within ten months and miscellaneous merch besides. Whether he was popular or not, the presumption had been that he would be an instant megahit. But, like, why?

>>97916456
> SURVIVORS could be here
> I HATE SURVIVORS he thought to himself
> "With a Spark you can go anywhere you want" he said to himself out loud

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I hate Nashi.

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I hate wickerfolk.

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I hate Niko.

That's a lot of hate.

>>97916634
because wotc is an out of touch company that thinks forcing a mascot with no organic fans will stick

>>97916634
>He got three cards within ten months
Outrageous! He should be up to eight cards already.

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I hate that Swarmweaver is still better for bug decks than Blech. Maybe we'll get better lifegain bugs in the future, like a Haywire Mite or Goldenglow Moth reprint, but as of right now, Blech is just an odd-color bat lord.

I shoeed Loot to my friend and he really liked him. Said he will be popular because he is cute. Is the Loot hate just a 4chan thing?

>>97916789
I don't see the problem unless you just don't like scarecrows.

>>97916791
I can't tell you whether it's a thing elsewhere, I simply don't know, but I can tell you that it ought to be a thing elsewhere if it isn't already.

>>97916634
He's an abused child victim with a mysteries connecting to the Fomori.