What is is like to receive headpats from an Elemental?

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I like the Ares.
I like the Poseidon.
I like the Omega.
I like Super Heavies.

>>97907550
It's just like my japanese animies!

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Has anyone ever painted up a Stone's Coalition force? It sounds like a pretty kino project.

Hell's Horses Clan Vehicles and ProtoMechs
Ghost Bear Clan Mechs and BA
Draconis Combine Inner Sphere Vehicles and BA
ComStar inner Sphere Mechs

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i will never forgive them for retconning thanatos and argus into NOT being is omnis

>>97907564
the who and the what?

the fedcom and VSD went and killed a whole entire clan, that was the last thing that 'happened'. nothing has happened at all since.

now its some 'ilclan era' with a very different IS no one knows how or why, because what little is 'known' is clearly retarded lies and propaganda so clearly never happened.

>>97907575
Trying Too Hard

>>97907555
The Ares and Poseidon are the BT version of Imperator Titans and therefore based kino kingshit.

>>97907575
Christ, grogs really are the worst part of Battletech.

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HONOR THE DRAGON!

>>97907572
I agree, those mechs would have been so much more interesting as omnis. Stiletto is also in that bracket. The Lyran Alliance field manual did suggest it was getting reworked into an omni and then they retconned all mention of that.

>>97907591
fccw, wobbytardrage, dork age. etc, are so ridiculously awful they have to be utterly discountered.

>>97907603
Ok buddy

>>97907603
>>97907579

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Hello again lads, I’m posting to ask for help.
Working on some Delta Galaxy Wolves for a scenario about Devlin Stone’s Coalition retaking Hesperus II from the Blakists. I’m writing character background for the MechWarriors to help the player's immersion. For the Wolf’s Star Commander, my idea is he became a ristar a few months earlier when Delta was fighting alongside Beta Galaxy of Clan Wolf-in-Exile defending Skye from Blakist invasion. I want him to have fought a Trial of Grievance against some CW-I-E Warriors but am not sure over what exactly.

>>97907564
As per my post right above, I’m working on Delta Galaxy on Hesperus in 3074. This could expand to Stone’s Lament forces but in all honesty estate I’d rather not try to paint the cringey bone scheme.

>>97907691
Perhaps the ToG was over who had total command of military Clan forces on Skye? Neither CW nor CW-I-E wanted to be commanded by a warrior from the other Clan and this led to a Trial being fought over who got to lead after a refusal to follow orders led to a fuckup during battle.

>>97907736
I think you’re on the right track but it probably needs to be a little closer to ground level, considering the CW side will be represented by someone junior enough to lead a single Star. He pilots the Timber Wolf by the way.

>>97907763
Then his Star is assigned to work alongside the Exiles, one side refuses to cooperate, someone fucks up, people die. Trial is fought. One side wins, now CW and CW-I-E work together properly, if reluctantly.

>>97907772
For sure, this is where I was going with the bigger picture. Tensions between CW Delta and CW-i-E Beta on Skye escalate to the point of conflict, which is averted by a Trial. Delta hardline conservatives balk at the notion of a Trial between one of theirs and CW-i-E because it recognizes the latter as genuinely Clan but Warden-leaning Delta CO/CW Lore Master Katya Kerensky reasons spurning the challenge would cede the moral high ground. But I’m having trouble thinking of an interesting conflict to spark the challenge. I am thinking the CW-i-E side issues the challenge.

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I am once again, forced to remind you, that the griffin is the superior medium.

So, why isnt there an optional advanced quirk system that goes as in depth as MWO? It makes mechs much more unique.

>>97907889
You haven’t made it yet?

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>>97907874
Incorrect.

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>>97907899
you are, of course, entitled to your (wrong) opinion.

>>97907904
Twas not an opinion but a fact proven over numerous games that anyone who actually plays would know.

>>97907874
I have a GRF-2N and a GRF-4R in my 40th Shadow Div Lvl-II.

>>97907911
hahaha. silly waacfag.

>>97907939
It's ok nogamer, we won't judge you for not playing the game here

>>97907943
yes yes, just stick to your introtech games where you play your lance of

aws-8q
tdr-5se
wvr-6m
wvr-6k

yep. you're totally not a minmaxxing faggot no one will even give a game to. you totally 'play games'. constantly. why, you're paying 6 games of CBT right now, of course.

>>97907874
Once again clan Griffin is better.
Once again there are better mediums.

>>97907924
this is the way.

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>>97907874
The only people who disagree are too poor to afford a Griffin. Prove me wrong!

>>97907959
Trying too hard.

>>97907963
but not 'better'. because everything else is either cripplingly overspecialised or cripplingly generalised.

shadowhawk and wolverine are not the best because they're not good enough at any one thing.
hunchback is not the best because it is only good at point blank, whilst being slow.

meanwhile, griffin is best because it is 'good enough' at many things, instead of just being meh/ok at all things.

it is designed to hit things from a distance, but if anything is silly enough to close with it, it can also go to fisticuffs and mech-fu with the best.

>>97907959
>not AWS-10KM
>not TDR-7SE
>not WVR-7M2
>not WVR-7K

Unlike you plebian introtech peasant I play in the superior Jihad era.

>>97907965
especially in ilclan era when you just buy them off of clan happy space fish merchant.

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Reminder that the average Griffin pilot is pic related

>>97907975
>Jihad era
>superior
0/10 bait

>>97908026
Blakeless behavior

>>97908016
and in what weight class did YOU make a name for yourself on solaris ? I didn't know solaris HAD a weight class for lardwhale-class infantry. mechanised for your rascal?

>>97907964
Will be my first time trying a snub-nosed PPC. I hope the improved jump jets can help on that front. No excuses or rewards for playing cautiously.
>>97907975
I’m trying to get into Jihad era right now, which means I will be trying to get my friends into Jihad era soon.
>>97908032
LMAO

>>97908040
>Rascal Dragoon

>>97908051
what's worse, the rules for infantry support making modern "americans" infantry in BT too.

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How’s my merc scheme? Im gonna do highlights and basing today.

>>97908082
fucking choice. sweet.

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>>97908082
Looks really good. I have some orange boys as well.

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>>97907874
Naw man. Vindicator has it beat.

>>97908131
Those look sick. Great work!

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>>97908151
vindicator is fugly and retarded. griffin beautiful.

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beautiful, curvy, you want to be inside her, you want griffin.

>>97907973
>is ppc
>best
Kek ok

>>97908178
go away clanner and stay go.

>>97907874
If the Griffin is the superior medium trooper, wouldn't you be a waacfag by using it?

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the clanner, being a soulless flesh golem, an automata, has no appreciation of beauty or class.

godlessness.

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>>97908164
Thanks bro! I should have posted the pic with Crusader since you painted one, too.

>>97908195
no. because I use her out of love. not for what she can do for me.

only the filthy waacfag makes everything cheap, tawdry, transactional.

>>97908168
It doesn’t have to be pretty, it just has to work.

Which, just to put it bluntly, the vindicator has good long-range capabilities (PPC+LRM5), good close-range capabilities (ML+LL), and better heat management than the Griffin.

Pair it with some hardy heavies or juggernaut assaults and you’ll find it makes a good enough sniper that doesn’t really need to be supported. It can take care of itself.

A hypothetical Shadow Hawk 2H that had a large laser in place of the AC5 and those 4 tons spent in other places would give it a much better placing amongst the 55 trio.

>>97908207
wrong. these are knights of glory in their armour upon the field of battle! anything worth doing is worth doing gloriously.

i bet you even wear camo undies in your cockpit.

>>97908208
7H.

>>97908000
>buying from clan furry water jew
>putting yourself into debt to a Clan
>ever

>>97908222
That's not 3025.

>>97908208
>>97908222

The Turkayyid variant did that as well didn't it? The SHD-2Ht. Large Laser instead of the AC, ML and a pair of Stream SRM-2's. Supposed to be an Elemental Hunter, because presumably it comes from a time when the IS had no fucking clue what it was doing in that respect?

>>97908263
nah, 7h is the closest you can get to what the shd was supposed to do, since it has the ml, the srm, the lrm, and a thumping great uac10 that can and will actually hurt things. so it finally is the mech with the really nasty autocannon and a bunch of supporting weapons.

>>97908208
Quite literally what I did with the 3H I designed, based off of the only bit of art for the mech I could find. Large Laser, SRM6, 4 srm2's, a medium laser, and 2 machineguns iirc. I'll dig the record sheet out later and post it.

>>97908259
then raid them and steal it. yeesh. at least do some of your own thinking, mechwarrior.

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>>97908281
How? Its 3072, there's a good 60 plus years to go till its even prototyped.

>>97908200
Hell yeah. Love the color separation on it. Looks great.

>>97908327
Haha we both went for the “bra” on the Crusader.

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CONSUME.

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>>97908356
she's a big girl well 'equipped' with melons and needs that armoured bra to keep from spilling out.

>>97908280
Too different. I would have given it three extra sinks and an upgrade to an SRM4. The three JJs are character defining so it shouldn't be changed. Put that in 3025 in place of the original and nobody would scoff at it, and from an in universe perspective it would make sense as THE standard 55.

>>97908392
Nice score on the King Crab, Shiro and the rare Shrike and Gyrfalcon. Those aren't super easy to grab.

>>97908263
>presumably it comes from a time when the IS had no fucking clue what it was doing in that respect?
Streak 2's used to be able to mount infernos. Only 2 racks of any kind could. That's why all the old shit had it. They just stuck it on this new variant for tradition sake.

>>97908277

Eh, my favorite is probably the 5M for that. UAC5, Streak SRM-2 and an LRM-20.

>>97908455
The Shiro is my most wanted mech so I'm very pleased.

>>97908581
I've got 984 MWDA mechs and exactly 2 Shiro's and 1 King Crab. Yeah, good score, brother.

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>>97907874
Wrong.

>>97908677
Now we're trolling

>>97908392
why

>>97908748
It's that dude trying out the old clicktech for fun. I don't blame him. It was fun picking over its corpse for models in the 2010's too. In the early 2000's when they tried to kill classic, not so much.

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>>97908786
I recently tried out the old Wizkids Mechwarrior game and ended up loving it. Me and my mate are getting pretty into it :) it's quite different from Classic BT or even Alpha Strike but very fun.

>>97908806
Meant for >>97908748

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Working on some Wolves

So in-universe and/or in-campaign, when upgrading the old 3025 mechs with newer gears, upgrading with the XL engine is easier than with the endo steel? For the mercs to attempt at least

TAG+semi-guided or Artemis IV?

>>97908200
>>97908200
got any more?

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>>97908911
Here are the last three

>>97908603
You've got a thousand units but no games

>>97908939
And you've no bitches >:)

>>97908955
>You’ve
What country are you from, anon?

>>97908955
Correct, the woman in my life is not a bitch, esl.

So the Jihad era was really just one big time-skip?

The largest, most enigmatic, technologically advanced, and sinister groups in the entire setting up to that point, the faction that successfully brought the Clans to their knees at Tukayyid, goes completely apeshit and starts attacking everyone indiscriminately as part of a holy crusade to bomb the IS back to the Stone Age.

And it’s just glossed over?

Kinda feels like they skipped over an actually interesting part of the timeline, just to get back to “squabbling nepobabies”.

>>97909019
>And it’s just glossed over?
Weak b8

>>97907541
There's a weird charm to these bits of CGI art pieces.

>>97908865
If you have a refit kit to drop it to a class D operation, yes. Without one it's technically easier as an E, but E and F class refits both require factory conditions so it being easier isn't really meaningful. Class D only requires a maintenance facility, which generic mechbays count as.

>>97907874
I've always had a soft spot for the Centurion.

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>>97907593
HONOUR!

So, bit of a weird question, but are there any specific reasons the Combine's "Mediums mechs are lame" doctrine is bad? Whenever I see it on a wiki or whatever, it's often brought up that "this leaves them in deficiencies in the specific roles medium mechs are better suited for," but those specific roles aren't brought up. I'm not saying the claim is bogus, it's just that, if it weren't for that claim the, "use lights for recon and flanking and heavies for frontline," doctrine kinda makes sense to me on paper. If you can produce enough heavies that the opportunity cost of an equal industrial capacity worth of mediums isn't causing a shortage, then it seems like a perfectly reasonable doctrine.

Sell me on the UAC/2 and 5 please

>>97908786
>In the early 2000's when they tried to kill classic, not so much.
Wish they had, desu
Would have cleared the board for alpha strike and we wouldn't have so many boomers and grogs choking the meta

>>97909083
They end up using fat heavies to do a medium's job, with the only benefit they're seeing is more kick damage.

>>97909122
The only time I take makes with AC/2s or Ultra AC/2s is if i know I'm facing air support of any kind.

If not don't even bother.

>>97909125
Trvth Nvke

>>97909019
>And it’s just glossed over?
My understanding is that Jordan Weisman founded WizKids to sell Mage Knight and decided to push the pre-painted minis/Clix craze using the BattleTech license. The resulting game, MechWarrior Dark Age, is set in the 3130s but Classic BattleTech was still in the FedCom Civil War era of the 3060s.
The Dark Age setting was also conceived of as a condensed/simplified entry point into the franchise for the much broader commercial demographic of the Clix products. The Jihad, the Republic, and Gray Monday were therefore invented as background for the Dark Age Clix game in this way, rather than being written successively from the FedCom CW era in Classic BT sourcebooks.
It wasn’t until some years later that FanPro began to release Classic BT sourcebooks about the Jihad.
The Jihad is very far from “glossed over” in terms of Classic BT material. There is quite a lot of it. The bigger issues are
>There was a lot of hatred for the Dark Age Clix game among existing BT fans so guilt by association
>The time skip and introduction of the Jihad as a mysterious past event felt lazy
>Even all these years later important questions such as What did the Blakists even want? and Who was responsible for Gray Monday? remain pretty much unanswered

The more I think about the Jihad, the more it honestly makes sense as “the next big thing” for the BT setting following the FedCom CW.
The basic premise of the BT setting in the beginning was the notion that the future was a dark age, a galaxy living in the shadows of a long-lost golden age of human unity. The Clan Invasion cemented the notion of trying to recover that unity, both in terms of the Clans’ own origins and motives as well as the IS response. The machinations of Waterly and Focht, the rise and fall of the Second Star League, the secularization of ComStar, and the collapse of the Federated Commonwealth …
Imagine living through all that. I think the galaxy would have been more than ripe for a major ideological explosion.

>>97908745
Its a solid Battlemech what are you talking about?

>>97909314
No it doesn't.
It's hastily written bs backstory fluff to fail at propping up a sad revisionist excuse to not sell mechs for a mech game using the cheapest plastic and moulding available.

>>97909407
Trying Too Hard

>>97909258
>Even all these years later important questions such as What did the Blakists even want?
Wasn’t it what they were always after from the start?
They wanted the Great Houses to annihilate each other, plunging the inner sphere into a New Stone Age, so that they could swoop in and reintroduce all the lost technology of the Star League back to humanity and create a new united Humanity, but with the Blakists running things as a unified technocracy, rather than bickering warlords.

And the Wobbies basically got so frustrated that the great houses kept refusing to play their part, that they lost their shit and decided to do the annihilating and plunging the IS into a New Stone Age themselves.

Wasn’t that what they wanted?

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>>97909314
>>97909258
>>97909019
Jihad is the best BT era and WoB are the best BT faction.

>>97909414
Oh look it's the dipstick nolife chucklefuck who posts the same three words in the same order day after day after day.
Obviously this jackass losers opinion has merit and value, right?
No, it doesn't.

>>97909434
> and WoB are the best BT faction.
Well, they’re the most 40k-like faction in the main timeline at any rate…

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How would the SDF-1 fair against a SLDF Fleet?

>>97909467
>>97909414

>>97909125
Nah man, it would be in the hell that Crimson Skies is now. Grogs and Krautists are what saved the game, even what saved it a second time with the 2018 kickstarter. Of course, retards have been saying Alpha Strike is the future since 2013 so YMMV.

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>>97909467
You could have chosen to ignore him but instead you gave him the (you). Good job anon.

>>97909487
>Grogs and Krautists are what saved the game
Lol
Lmao, even.

>>97909468
Being comstar classic and existing before the 40k knockoff though both are knockoffs of dune and foundation is kinda funny, though.

>>97909489
Literally true. Go look up the whole Fanpro story.

>>97909496
>Literally true.
ROFL

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>>97909314
Well the WoB was the most curious faction I’ve yet seen in Battletech, as it’s a pseudoreligious cult. And one for which there’s still not a lot that’s fully understood about their beliefs and practices.

Compared to just about every other faction which is mostly secular in nature and has clear, simple, secular goals.

>>97909508
>Well the WoB was the most curious faction I’ve yet seen in Battletech,
Check out the Genecaste. They're wiggy af.

>>97909488
Refer to your own picture, (You)s have no value.
Insults have psychological impact when they contain truth, even if the loser professes denial of it.

>>97909521
>>97907579

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>>97907691
>>97908849
not reading ur post but Wolves are gay and your Star fills me with homolust (aggressive)

>>97908082
ornj. They cute. Could maybe use a few highlights? mebee mix some yellow + ornj?

>>97908131
>>97908914
These remind me of heavy machinery, which is good? Very chewable<3


Rate my Star:
Hunchback IIC, Hunchback IIC, Phoenix Hawk IIC, Bane Standard, Jade Hawk

>>97909537
Insufferable.

>>97909537
#RopeAllPedos

>>97909083
The lore is a little schizo about that. While it's true Procurement used to throw mediums at units it didn't favor, the Dragon produces mediums hand over fist ie Hunchback. I think the perspective of shit units like Legion of Vega being medium-laden clouded the perception of mediums in the DCMS as a whole.

>>97909364
It's a primitive shitbox, even the Battleaxe is a better 'mech

>>97909537
The Jade Hawk is garbage, but double Hunchie IICs is a chef's kiss

>>97909601
Anon, he's obviously talking about the grogtech version that they retconned into still being available in the Succession Wars. You should shame him for being a chassis retcon faggot ruining continuity and not for liking a genuinely good design.

>>97909621
>Jade Hawk is garbage
You have outgayed a transistor, bravo.

>>97909628
Totem 'mechs as a concept is dumb child shit and should be lambasted at all times. Plus it is dezgra-coded, so even Clanners should be ashamed if it (also looking at you, Kodiak)

>>97909468
>Well, they’re the most 40k-like faction in the main timeline at any rate…
Not really. The Wobbies are Catholics, the Mechanicus are Calvinists. The Wobbies think that their sacrifice can save everybody while the Mechanicus have that neat title drop I need not quote here, I'm sure.

>>97909673
>The Wobbies are Catholics
Because Catholics own all the banks and media and Catholics have plans to nuke the entire planet.

>>97909622
The 4R is a solid Gladiator. I think you folks need to stop huffing industrial glue.

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>>97909514
Genecast just want to breath in space.

>>97909684
I literally said that it was, though.

>>97909681
The Israeli Jews converted to Catholicism in BT, yes.

The remaining jewish Jews are Beta Jews, Sephardic Jews and the descendants of the anti-Zionist sects.

>>97909694
>tfw no Wobbie mech Chamberbro

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Done except the cockpit, I think? Not sure what colour to do

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In "Divided We Fall" the main character, a warrior with an interest in history, says to the Wolf's Dragoons that no mercenary unit has ever worked with the Clans. This is false. I was immediately able to think of times this has happened, not least of which was when the FUCKING WOLF'S DRAGOONS WORKED ALONGSIDE THE SPIRIT CATS NOT 20 YEARS PRIOR!!!!
Where the actual fuck do they find these people and how does one get to write Battletech novels without knowing the fucking lore?!

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*flies past*

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I'm pleased with the exhaust vents on the jump jets and the lil vent thingies on the calves. Overall happy with the line work, but I think I over did the pink a lil bit and lost some depth. Tried to keep everything subtle and one colour and probably should've done a bit more mixing but was trying to constrain myself

>>97909718
The Society has set the warrior caste up to succeed.

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until next time<3 take care

>>97909735
>Clanners being arrogant and not being well read even when they think they are.
True to canon. Also, that book fucking sucked. They should have had Goon Civil War 2 instead of getting raped by Alaric. Still, I did like how the clanner went "Think about what Jaime Wolf would do." and the head of the Goons said "Tell you to go fuck yourself just like he did in the Invasion."

>>97909735
Pardoe maybe doesn't consider Spirit Cats a true Clan?

>>97909913
Pardoe is maybe a hack that doesn't know the setting he writes for?

>>97909735
>Battletech author doesn't know the lore of Battletech
I am shocked. SHOCKED, I say.

>>97909926
Fuck you, BLP is a legend, your leftover loser ad hoc 'Clan' is a nothingburger.

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>>97909947
>BLP is a legend

>>97909735
>I write Battletech novels :D
>No, I've never read any Battletech lore or even glanced at the sourcebooks or timeline, why? :D
Many such cases.

>>97909428
>Wasn’t that what they wanted?
I don’t think so, I think that’s just what people who dislike or are disinterested in the era commonly assume.
>>97909434
Is that a 52nd Shadow Division ‘Mech?
>>97909407
Well I know why it came about, I wrote the post above explaining that. Nevertheless, it does actually make very good sense given all this will-they-won’t-they tension about various factions (FedCom, Clans, ComStar, Second Star League) trying to consolidate power based on the Star League dream.
There being a sizable part of the galactic population driven over the brink of ultra-violent violent uprisings in the wake of it all is compelling.
The Jihad was the last gasp of any real hope that humanity would be reunified under some great power or ideology.
>>97909508
You make a really good point. The actual religion of the Word is pretty vague, at best. There is a lot of room to explore that.

>>97909537
Use your homolust to ponder my request.
>>97909537
Also do not chew my ‘Mechs.

>>97910030
>Is that a 52nd Shadow Division ‘Mech?
It's my 52nd Toyama. I love him, he's so fun to use!

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>>97910042
Forgot me pic T_T

>>97910047
Oh yeah, he has fought a number of Marians as I recall

>>97910064
He has indeed! One of Adept Baal's greatest servants. He's earned quite a kill tally in our games lol

>>97909684
I hate mechs with rear armors lower than 5

>>97910081
I wish CGL would release a Celstial Level II pack sooner rather than later but I suspect Liya isn’t quite capable of it at the moment
In the meantime, my 40th Shadow Division Level II consisted of two Griffons, a Spector, a Nightsky, a Grasshopper, and a Gunslinger

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>>97909735
Clanners bad at history. More news at 11

>>97910219
Not in another 2 years at least they said, along with the Liao forcepacks

>>97910229
I’m aware, as I said I suspect mass manufacturing the Celestials is just not possible yet and CGL is loathe to redesign them too much
As for Liao ForcePacks, I guess it’d be better to do those when there is some Liao hotspots book on the horizon

>>97910229
Pain

>>97909514
Hmm…
Seems they’re more of a clan “boogeyman” and urban legend than an actual antagonistic faction.

But they are interesting either way.

If nothing else the idea of some Clanner in a tinfoil hat in front of some conspiracy board, trying to not sound crazy as he explains this to his peers, is an incredibly amusing sight to imagine.

and the idea that their might actually be some secret Illuminati-type cabal in clan space Engineering lovecraftian horrors from the human genome can also create some interesting story ideas

>>97909514
>>97910285
The Wars of Reaving and Society should've made the Genecaste 100% canon

>>97909735
Would a Clan Warrior out of the loop enough to be going to try and convince Wolf's Dragoons to come home even consider Wolf's Dragoons Mercenaries?

No real IS Mercenary outfit has worked officially with the Clans AFAIK; even if the argument is a little bit 'No True Scotsman'. One could make that same argument about the Spirit Cats.

Clanners pretending to be mercenaries working for a would-be Clan made by a freebirth is hardly the model of Mercenary-Clan cooperation you're making it out to be.

>>97910291
No, no, like the Black Marauder, having it be 100% canon that some Clanners believe the genecaste exists, but they’re actual existence being more fuzzy, is far better for the setting in the grander scheme of things.

It makes the Battletech galaxy more mysterious, gives it more mystique. But also, makes it feel more real and lived in, and you rarely have fictions with their own layers of legend and “fuzzy history”.

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>>97908200
I also painted a Crusader this weekend, I guess the bra look is just what comes natural

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>>97910503
>I guess the bra look is just what comes natural
It's how the original Unseen ones were done.

>>97909656
Dude we get it you love sucking unwashed cocks. That's cool rly, but you should try different forum for that. It's blue board.

>>97910503
I like ur mini but I don't like ur photo.

Instant penis explosion chamber

>>97909960
It’s true, he’s legendarily shit

>>97910625
t. an ESL tourist sellout

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>>97910797
You mutilated your kids to be a DEI hire, Bryan, you exist in the shadow of what Blaine helped build; you're here through your sins, not by deserved reward. Everything you do and are is the paragon of shithood.

>97909947
Post a good sentence that Pardoe wrote.

>>97910847
NTA, but stop being a passive agressive 12 year old faggot.

>97910957
kill yourself namefag

>>97910844
I’m not Bryan but I do know him and this is all basically true. But that doesn’t matter because his writing is way better than Pardoe’s; which serves largely as an indication of how terrible Blaine was at books

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>>97910847
The ejector worked, damn it, it worked perfectly. It rocketed one of the best men I ever lead directly into the center torso of a Viper Black Hawk. Hallis never had a chance. He was crushed flat in an instant. The Vulture trapping his Exterminator rolled away just as the Exterminator's core dropped, turning the once-white Com Guard BattleMech to slag.

I ordered the retreat after that. The Vipers followed us up the hill, peppering our behinds with lasers and missiles, but we lost them in the erupting geyser field. Out of the full battalion I lead into that hell, only six BattleMechs and a handful of infantry managed to escape.

Their blood is on my hands. At night, I still hear Hollis's anguished cry, calling from the grave. He haunts me when I try to sleep. I think I see his face sometimes in crowds of people, I rush up, but he is gone.

Maybe if I had been faster, or if I could have stopped him earlier--but no, I failed them all.

They brought me here to cure me, but I know the only cure that will end my suffering is to join Bordon Hallis and the other men I lead to their deaths. The doctor has me strapped to the bed, but he is only prolonging the inevitable.

The Precentor Martial told us that by winning this battle, we had won the war. If this madness is victory, then victory be damned!

>>97910974
>I’m not Bryan but I do know him
Imagine admitting that in sincerity lmao

>>97910987
Why would you jump like a trained monkey?

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>>97911013
It was a simple challenge to best, quiaff?

>>97910987
I said a good sentence

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Gentlemen, I just wanted to announce that Amiami has the 1/72 Maxfactory Battlemaster and Goliath preorders up for July, and they're still less than $50 a model. It's not as nice as the $35 Marauders last year but GLORY TO BIG SCALE.

That is all.

>>97910992
You don’t hang around most CGL spaces without running into all of the usual gang of idiots

>>97911060
Trying Too Hard

>>97911072
Stop rising to the bait, Pardoe. If you were really a good author you'd have better things to do with your time on a Saturday night

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>>97911064
Think they'll do the whole line?

>>97911085
They've done almost all of them at this point, even the glider Griffins. They started almost 10 years ago IIRC. The Beemer is a reprint. I've got like three of the thuds and two of everything else Battletech but the Wolverines because they are overscaled in Dougram.

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>>97911092
Wolvie so strong he swells at scale

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>>97911101
>tfw have the old LotB Raven resin kit based on this image in proper 1/72
>Feelsgoodman.hpg

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>>97911092
>Dougram
Need to do a rewatch sometime. It's like the Hinterlands before there were Hinterlands.

>>97911048
Dishonest though, Pardoe is the only half decent BT writer, he at least can sell non-battletech novels as well and doesn't rely on fagpol to sell his crap that's written by an LLM, like "likes 'em young" admitted to.

>>97910364
>a Clan warrior goes deep undercover to unearth the secrets of the legendary Genecaste
>it's actually a swinger's group on Strana Mechty

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Can you guys tell me some regiments that uses this kind of green as their base color? Not the olive drab ones I mean

>97911171
https://camospecs.com/

>>97911079
>you'd have better things to do with your time on a Saturday night
Not him but.
>girlfriend taking 5 hour online defensive driving test because she California rolled at a stoplight
>best friend volunteering at Fire Department fundraiser auction until midnight (where I got an excellent brisket lunch, a gorgeous china cabinet for minis and a 1910 mantle clock for $85 altogether earlier today)
>my fucking 4160 Holly started leaking gas when I started up the old girl from a milling galley so searching for new bowls online that aren't $200 apiece (considering just going full Sniper 2 instead of wasting $400 bucks to still have to deal with cold starts)
>having to answer bullshit messages and emails from work at all hours from all over the globe because major events coming up next week
So, here I am, chained to my desk, typing on an old 3278 and drinking heavily while I get shit ready for Monday. I still love you sonsofbitches.

Now, let's talk about forgotten things from older materials. Like, how we don't have the little cool art inserts in the reprint novels or crazy canon intros like Michael Stackpole in the 31st Century. Actually, has anyone ever finally digitized The Sword and the Dagger? May have to sacrifice a copy myself this summer if that still ain't done.

>>97911171
That's a very Capellan green.

>97911176
tldr no one cares pardoe

>>97911181
Pardoe would never mention his superior Stackpole in a kind light.

>>97911143
It's still a major point of pride for me that /m/ is who finally got that subbed. God, when 4chan still got shit done.

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Rogers Salvage Limited is ready for work

>>97911171
Shin Legion

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>>97911191
It had piss-yellow fansubs on VHS before then, but I won't disparage the basedness of the campaign to get it subbed.

>>97911166
Nah, Bryan has a conniption whenever anyone even mentions AI and starts attacking them at random, if he used it himself he’d probably commit suicide after

>97911330
Go to bed Pardoe

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>>97911330
>if he used it himself he’d probably commit suicide after
Blake willing, that day will come soon

>97911365
stop samefagging pardoe

>>97911357
>>97911367
Grow up, faggot.

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>>97908197
Retardation.
The swap from 4ac2 to 4lac5 makes the Mahler's ac battery truly brutal.

Now it is chewing ammo to spit long range ac20/lbx20 dmg. Plus it Bert's like 3 times harder than the ac2 battery. And lac5 gets to use precision ammo too if it wants.

Precise ammo ac battery plus two clpl means good hits, and the lrm packs make great critfishing splats.

>97911371
develop a thicker skin pardoe

The Shadow Hawk is without any question the handsomest ‘Mech

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>>97911681
I gotta paint two shads, mostly to be opfor.

Which leads me to an interesting question: What other mechs are common enough that I need to have two or more?

I have 2 Locusts, 2 Commandos, 2 Chameleons (specifically for training scenarios) and this will be 2 Shads. I could in theory paint a second Archer. What else needs dupes?

>>97910364
>No, no,
Yes yes

Noob Here can someone explain to me some of the lore? Idk if you're supposed to pick a faction when buying miniatures. I just see cool mechs with giant guns and wanna put my favorite ones together. But don't really know if they're interchangeable or if I have to pick a faction that uses that mech.

>>97911934
Play the Word of Blake. Then you can bring everything. Clan/IS Mechs, Clan/Is Vehicles, Clan/IS BA, Protomechs and so on.

Is there any way I can fluff it that my all male unit only wear the coolant vest and helmet, and nothing else? So they'd all be standing about with thie huge bushy cocks out or do Mechwarriors need to wear more than the jacket?

>>97911957
>only wear the coolant vest and helmet, and nothing else? So they'd all be standing about with thie huge bushy cocks out
I mean thdy'd do this to manage heat and stay cool in the cockpit of course

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>>97911934
>Idk if you're supposed to pick a faction when buying miniatures.
You are not. You are free to put your favourites together, but you're supposed to learn enough about the game to make sure that your opponent can also have fun playing against you.

>>97911808
What factions you're thinking of might help narrow that field.

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>>97911934
The politics of the inner sphere revolve around the five great houses and the clans. There are also smaller periphery states that exist in the geographical periphery of settled space.
The great houses are gigantic interstellar feudal states that rely on traditional mixed economies and also contain similarly gigantic interstate megacorporations. The clans are pseudofascist command economy caste based warrior cults. The periphery states are generally much closer to the great houses than the clans.
Almost all mechs(and other kinds of combat vehicles) are produced by multiple companies and most of these companies operate internationally, with factories based in the territory of multiple great houses or periphery states, as well as just selling mechs on the market to other nations, mercenaries and other private owners. Mechs also often find their way into the hands of other people through combat salvage.
The clans produce their war machines exclusively in state operated factories and, with the exception of clan diamond shark, do not sell their equipment to others. Clan equipment only ending up in the hands of others through open combat or esoteric clan trials.
The availability of mechs is much more restricted by how common they are for certain nations or private users(mercenaries), it being extremely rare that any mech is ever exclusive to a specific faction.
In the context of little lance vs lance battletech games it simply comes down to what you want to use, though people do often prefer to create fluffy unit compositions and people often play games set in a specific era and place that does require a more comprehensive understanding of the setting to know what should be present.
Customization of mechs is also extremely difficult in-universe and often looked down upon in the community without explicit prior agreement by all involved parties on any customizations to any units made by anyone, so almost everyone exclusively uses stock in-universe variants.

>>97911934
Besides Protomech and certain types of Battle Armour most factions can bring whatever they want. Although the Hegemony having a full Maniple of Clan mechs or the Society having a Sept of Celestials would be hard to accept, so use your common sense :)

>>97911945
That is a lie. Why would you lie to anon like that?

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Dragon status:
[X] Honored
[ ] Not honored

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>>97912004

>97909521
(you)'s have no value to the average normie but to the nogames basement dweller anons like you and nuln they give the minute nuggets of dopamine that they desperately crave.

>>97912003
Word of Blake Protomechs are a thing. They do have access to Clan mechs and BA like the Com Guard.

>>97912009
If they have no value, why did you refuse to quote him, hmmmmm? Why, retard-sama?

Does anyone have a high quality scan of Mechwarrior Technology of Destruction book? The one I found online was poopoo quality.

>97912015
As a form of disrespect and to prevent him getting the dopamine that I just mentioned, retard-kun

>>97912012
In your headcanon

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>>97912023
We've done this before anon. They were a thing. They may, or may not, have been a technological dead end, we don't know. But the WoB did mess around with, and deploy, Domini Protomechs.
Have a (You). (You) may now argue with someone else about this even though I have presented you with the facts. I do not care.

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>>97911957
>>97911959

>>97912039
None of that is a Unit Availability Table

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>>97912039
I made an updated pic because I wanted to lol I'm keeping this so when someone asks in the future I can dump this on them :)

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>>97912020
This one, plz. I want to read it but I don't want to pay for it :'(

>>97912039
>>97912064

Is there enough advantages to Protomechs for the IS to try and develop ultralights? Or were they just not that impressive at the end of the day?
Because I'm getting perilously close to making a good, cheap, ultralight mech with comparable armament.

>>97912070
The Cherub made by WoB Domini Remnants is 15 tons. The Sprite Ultraheavy Protomech is 15 tons. I would argue the only real advantages Protos have at that point are:
A) Cool Factor
B) The level of control the pilot has over them is much better than the amount of control one has when piloting even an Ultralight mech.

>>97912076
>Cherub
MUL STATS WHEN YOU FUCKS?! MODEL WHEN?! I WANT MY AS CHERUB YOU SHITHEADS!!! MY ILCLAN ERA DOMINI NEED IT!!!

>>97912076

So, what would the design brief be on an IS Ultralight be? What would it be doing that a Stinger, Locust or Wasp can't? That's the big question I think. What exactly would it have to bring to the table? The only thing I can think of, is cost. If you can make it sub 1 million C-Bills, with equivalent speed and roughly equivalent firepower to one of the light scout mechs, then it would have a purpose.
Luckily, the Ostscout sets the bar REAL low when it comes to firepower at least.

>>97912086
>>97912076
>>97912070
I just don't think the IS way of war would fit with Protomechs. They work for Hell's Horses, for example, due to their combined arms nature and the fact they've altered their military's structure and way of war to use them, but dumb a unit of Protomechs into a Cappie lance or a Davion army or a Marian maniple and they'd likely not add much to them.

>>97912086
The Smoke Jags and even Society used a fuckload of Protos because they're easier/cheaper to produce and hide the production of so cost and build time is a big factor for them. There's also the fact they can go places mechs can't, like into buildings, and the pilots have a level of control over them Mechwarriors can't equal.
I adore Protos and it's a real shame CGL hates them. With a little love they could be a great part of the setting, they're already super fun to have on the table.

>>97912090

...what if we made them Omnimechs and used them exclusively as a bus for Battle Armour? No guns on the torso, high speed, maybe jump-jets, hell, maybe we barely armour the torso as well. Since for the most part they're going to have dudes hanging on as ablative armour anyway. Just really armour the legs?

>>97912094
>There's also the fact they can go places mechs can't, like into buildings, and the pilots have a level of control over them Mechwarriors can't equal.
Nothing BA doesn't already provide.

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>>97912094
>I adore Protos
MY BROTHER!

>>97912102

Come to think of it, Proto's can be carried like BA as well, can't they? Presumably those magnetic links don't also work for ultralight mechs, do they? I'm thinking of a russian nesting doll possibility.

>>97911989
I kinda need as broad as possible desu, so anything that isn't common enough to be seen multiple in a company for multiple great houses isn't probably worth mentioning.

I'll probably try to get more bugmechs since Stingers and Wasps seem also like obvious choices, but I'm trying to find any I might miss. I bought an urbs pack and the ubs lam pack so I'm never going to run out of those to use.

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>>97912102
>Nothing BA doesn't already provide
They provide more armor and firepower and generally move way faster.
>>97912115
Ultralight mechs arbitrarily can't use them. Ultralights should probably be able to but they can't.
Protomechs with magnetic clamp systems allow mechs to carry two protomechs or one superheavy protomech. Technically, I don't think there's anything stopping a 15 ton protomech from riding a 15 ton or even 10 ton ultralight battlemech.

Never could get into the lore. Just played through battletech vanilla and I just clicked through all the text, which is surprising because I usually engage with all kinds of sci-fi and fantasy story and lore. I guess I just like the stompy mechs and that's it.
Anyway what mods should I go with next?

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>>97912094
>and the pilots have a level of control over them Mechwarriors can't equal.
It's just EI. Lets you even remote-control you mech with the power of your mind.

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>ultralight carrying a protomech be like

A 15 ton mech a quarter the physical size of the mech carrying it is silly. At that point just make it so that handheld weapon pods are super commonplace and everyone is generally expected to bring a 10 ton one-shot weapons pod to open a fight with.

>>97912132
>Ultralight mechs arbitrarily can't use them. Ultralights should probably be able to but they can't.

It's most likely because of the scenario I just stated: Where that would open up the possibility of a specially configured Locust or Scorpion carrying a pair of Ultralight Omni's which are in turn carrying a Squad of BA's as well.

>>97912202
If they had made ultralights capable of using magnetic clamps it would have been just as easy to add "an ultralight mech already carrying BA or protomechs cannot itself be carried by a non-ultralight battlemech", assuming that is something they would not have wanted to allow.

>>97912214

Or say that Ultralights can't carry BA's because they are too smol. Either or.

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>which is heavier: ten tons of mech or ten tons of protomech?

>>97912217
I personally find that logically unreasonable since regular mechs can already carry protomechs.
I think it would make sense for mechs to have a carrying capacity, like being able to carry up to half of their chassis mass in protomechs or battle armor(not overriding the capacity of how many passengers they can carry). So a prey seeker wouldn't be able to carry a sprite or squad of kanazuchi(assault battle armor can't be carried but I think it's stupid if protomechs can be carried) but it could carry a pair of sirens or a squad of ogres.

>>97912202
>pandering to fringe tech
Can we not?

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>>97912076
>>97912083
I repeat myself, the MD endgame will be automated ultralights/protomechs (based on the Automata BA system) with heavier mechs used as leaders/lynchpin. Who the fuck cares about not having numbers when an entire Level II is one human pilot and his automated escorts. I understand that the writers can't comprehend writing new systems and unit compositions to give players more toys, but just imagine. They already had Aero automated assets, for Blake's sake.

>>97912276
>the MD endgame will be automated ultralights/protomechs (based on the Automata BA system) with heavier mechs used as leaders/lynchpin. Who the fuck cares about not having numbers when an entire Level II is one human pilot and his automated escorts.
That sounds fucking KINO!!!!

>>97912304
And will never happen, because BT isn't BLKOUT or Michael Bay's Transformers

>>97912351
>And will never happen
But it still founds fucking KINO!!!!

>>97912351
>because BT isn't BLKOUT
Would that it was.

>Transformers
Doesn't even make sense as BT robots (besides MAYBE the AI Aegaeon) aren't self-aware or sentient or "alive" in any way.

>>97911176
When I was a kid I would pick which BT novels to get from the library based off what mechs had lineart at the back

>>97912415
SOVL

>>97912276

If not theirs then it would have been the Societies. It actually would have made a lot more sense if all of their mechs had been drones.

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>IlClan so shit CGL gave up and started doing DeviantArt alternate universe concepts to avoid fixing it

>>97912351
Yet, it would be a solution to one of the longstanding problems of the game: tech stagnation and lack of variety.
All the sidegrades went kind of nowhere and are only complete clutter, they simply add another layer of useless mechanical gibberish. If you think about it, Clan and IS theoretically should play very differently even beyond the difference in techbase (of course we have Zell, but Clans also have protos and a different skill level). Adding factions that have different baseline formations/way of fighting beyond boring mechanical modifiers (the "extra rules for lances" they're so fond of nowadays with the factional books). Protos and Automata would mean more stuff to play around with that would give "character" to a battlefield even beyond Mech selection.
>>97912379
Aegaeon isn't sentient, it's a dolled-up LLM, a prototype of a much larger system. It toys around in GoH because it's programmed to do so, not because it chooses to.

>>97912511
Only way to fix it is to do a complete reboot and they already tried that once and the end product was ilclan

>>97912518
That's why I said MAYBE, anon. The newer version Mot took with him could be.

>>97908409
The srm6 version had 3 jumpjets, but the lrm version had to drop to 2

>>97908208
I tried dropping a single heatsink on the shad just to give it 5/8/5 movement.. but that just ends up with a slightly modded wolverine really..

>>97912518
>one of the longstanding problems of the game: tech stagnation and lack of variety.
That was the entire point behind the game from the start, zoomer

>>97912518
Tech stagnation is a good thing, unless you want to deal with Gauss Cannon/50s and such bullshit

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The WoB Jihad era is gonna get ignored because thanks to corporate bullshit with automated moderation, you can't even risk saying jihad let alone put it in a video title on youtube or other platforms without shit getting demonetised and restricted.
Good luck pushing product when you can't even advertise it.

>>97912687
They already announced a Celestials forcepack and confirmed recently that it's still coming.

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>>97912691
April Fool's!

>Hot Spots Hinterlands is Tamar Rising themed
>Draconis Reach is Dominions Divided themed by being set on the Davion/Kurita border
I hope when they get around to doing an IKEO themed book, it's set in the collapsing former Republic in the immediate vicinity of Terra

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>>97909125
Grogs Play Alpha Strike Now

>>97912796
That's one hell of cool table.

>>97912801
Stole the pic off of a reddit thread earlier today. Was blown away by the pungent grog aura.

the 8+ ice cubes in a glass goes hard

>>97912796
>There are middle schoolers who weren't alive when Alpha Strike came out

Rate my green bird star for a friendly match.
Supernova prime
Marauder iic 2
Coyotl A
Pouncer W
Ion Sparrow B
Done my best to stay wiswig and models I have painted so far. Only Sparrow left to paint before next weekend.

>>97912879
Ion Sparrow is annoying to fight but you chose one of the least annoying options, so good on you. The other mechs are pretty much fine, except the Coyotl is a bit of an odd man out. Where'd your Falcons get it?