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First for Blake!

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>>97926978
Praise him, praise him!

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>>97926978
Praise Blake!

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HONOR THE DRAGON!

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I think I have worked out my Republic Remnant force. A Lance of Republic Standing Guard mechs, a Battlemaster piloted by Alicia Stapleton, a former Knight who canonically served the Remnant, and a Point of Protomechs from the Fidelis.

The Naga mk1 is an omni, they really should have just given it a pod config without the Arrow 4s. Sometimes their insults can be so expensive yet petty.

>>97927088
Any omni having fixed equipment of any kind is really odd if you only look at rules as written. It must reflect in universe realities.

>>97927033
This image is misogynistic. Delete it.

>>97927088
Really see no reason I feel that it shouldn't be retconned that the Naga I and II be merged into the same design with the Arrow IV being the Prime config or be called the "Wolves" config

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>>97927168
No.

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>a Locust has the same critical slots as an Atlas

>>97927178
>A Sesna has the same amount of wings as an F-15

>>97927183
>internals are the same as externals!
Do you see how dumb your comparison is?

>>97927186
Do you know how dumb you are?

>>97927186
>gorillas have the same amount of bones as humans
Your shitpost isn't even funny.

>>97927191
A Locust goes up to the knees of an atlas at best. Yet has the same internal space?

>>97927200
>anon is too stupid to understand abstraction and supersets
You might want to jump ship to Necromolds. This might not be your speed.

>>97927200
>A Locust goes up to the knees of an atlas at best.
Old school is everything around 9-14m, which falls in line with square cube law. Size doesn't vary that much with weight. The bugs and scouts were known as little beanpoles, not short things. Actually, the Awesome was known as a brick manlett back in the day.

>>97927207
The difference between 9 and 14 meters, is uh... quite large.

>>97927069
Looks fine to me. Republic Remnant is a niche choice.

>>97927253
Why thank you :)

>>97927207
>Old school is everything around 9-14m,
That's wrong and retarded. Look at MWO. Fleas and Locusts are about 6m tops, and an Atlas is close to 18m.

97927263
Bait used to be believable

>>97927200
>>97927178
The real breakthrough of BT technology was the invention of hammer space, yes.

Thanks to it, every car is a clown car.

>>97927290

Don't forget how it's also weird inverse hammer space, where, a lot of the time, the more bulkier something is, the less it weighs!

>>97927290
We have already explained this, everyone is on average under 5ft in the Battletech universe!

>>97927207
That's equivalent to four foot to six foot. A four foot person's head will just about come up to a six foot person's stomach.
The height range has only widened since then in every form of battletech media.

>>97927300
Have you ever noticed a large volume of styrofoam will still be significantly lighter than a small volume of steel?

>>97927263
>Look at MWO
>Look at thing that fucked up canon scale
Ummm, no.

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>>97927285
>The infamous shit derided 3039 scale
Why post this?

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>>97927339
Shitposting for lulz

>>97927313
A stomach is a whole lot fucking higher than the knees.

>>97927301
>everyone
It's just the Davions.

All Mechs are between 10-12m, unless they have a specific description that says otherwise. Anything else is a tranny CGL retcon.

>>97927351
Well observed.

>>97927372
CGL products aren't canon.

>>97927356
Just a reminder that HBS tried to make mechs as tall as 18m+ and CGL were onboard with it till someone actively pointed out that there is no way that they'd fit in dropships at that height.

>>97927378
>we want to make the mechs bigger
>but the dropships are too small
>then just make the dropships bigger too?

>>97927396
That would involve too much effort as far as CGL were concerned.

>>97927377
Trying Too Hard

I see CGL is still considered one of the worst gaming companies.

Atlas gets mogged by Sazabi

>>97927794
Don't see why people think they are one of the worst. Most incompetent maybe? Always seem to manage to snatch failure from the jaws of success.

>>97927794
I can’t speak for many other gaming companies, but CGL just seems embarrassing more than anything

>plastic minis look like dogshit most of the time
>professional company being on kickstarter (at all, like don’t you guys have a business or some shit to fund your next product?)
>cannot fucking figure out distribution to save their lives, people waiting for like a year to get mercs stuff
>porchgate
>”Gothic isn’t trying to be 40K you guys”
>product number 40,000
>actually just Gothic in general

I am glad the game is seeing a renaissance as of late but I chalk that up to the players more than anything, CGL just seems hell-bent on slowing Battletech’s momentum by any means necessary.

>>97928006
You forgot

>admitting to drip feeding content

>>97928047
If I was building a comprehensive list of CGL’s retardation, I’d be here all day. Feel free to chime in with anything I missed.

>>97928062
>Actually employing a guy who goes on 4chan

>>97928110
I definitely agree that (You) do not deserve the means to feed, house and clothe yourself, (You) should definitely starve to death.

>>97928124
Explain why.

>>97928129
You said it, I'm just agreeing with you.

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>>97927817
BattleTech isn't really built for Death Battles so you right.
Though I think a Horned Owl could stand a chance against a Zaku.

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>>97927065
HONOR!!!

>>97928006
The bitter truth is BT was never managed well even under FASA. The even more bitter truth is that no game is managed well unless you keep your attention surface level

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>>97928217
Dragon status: honored

>>97928201
>BattleTech isn't really built for Death Battles
Solaris rules exist.

>>97928285
I meant the video series Death Battle!

>>97928285
You don't need special rules for 1v1

>>97928257
>>97927921
It is not even a political thing. Just shitty management along with dishonest ones. Porchgate is honestly just the biggest mismanagement, but they also have constitly not paid their authors and other talents.

Though to be fair we also have some of the worst of the fandoms due to death threats so may make sense why we have a shitty company on top of that.

>>97928201
>Zaku
BAR 8 at most, given a proto-PPC turns them into confetti.

>>97928391

My dude no. Beam Rifles in OYW era Gundam are gratuitous overkill. They're essentially barely miniaturized battleship grade guns. They don't really have a good equivalent in Battletech honestly, they mostly just shoot channels of minovsky particles that get reactor plasma funnelled through them, or caged plasma in the magazine, depending on which version of the technology you're looking at.
Megaparticle Cannons on the other hand are just some straight up Dr Minovsky brand bullshit witchcraft and I implore you not to think too hard about it.
Zaku armours about right. It's basically some kind of titanium alloy. Thick enough to survive in space, but that's about it.
The Gundam conversely itself is packing some SERIOUS bullshit for it's armour however. Not to the extent that later Gundam shows do, but still. The thing just tanked multiple bazooka shots to the face from char without even showing any real damage.
In fact I don't think the thing ever actually get's battle damaged until Zeon starts using beam weapons themselves. Fuck, I think Amuro took more damage to his person than the Gundam did.

>>97928442
OYW "battleships" are essentially dropship sized. And of course they don't have jump drives. They're not warships and their weapons are not warship grade. I'll remind you that the Zaku I kicks their ass with an autocannon.

>>97928257
I heard that FASA had a reputation for pissing off partners they worked with including managing to annoy Gene Roddenberry but not sure how true that statement is.

>>97928391
Zaku is a Horned Owl, dumbass.

>>97928477
You vastly overestimate the tech in battletech

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>>97928362
Solaris rules make it more fun.

>>97928442
>They're essentially barely miniaturized battleship grade guns.
Yes, that's what a PPC is. That's why we draw the comparison.
Also OYW armour is allegedly proof vs laser weapons. Like actual proof, to the point where they just stopped using lasers altogether, even as fixed point defense.

>BAR 10 armor is so crazy guys!
>random ass infantry machine guns can damage it

>>97927817
Nah. Sazabi gets popped the moment it enters los.

>>97928201
A Stinger would tear a Zaku apart.

>>97928571
A Stinger pilot would be sweating. Its laser gets nerfed by OYW armour and its mobility isn't much better than a Zaku's.

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>>97926978
Praise be to Word.

>>97928533

UC offense and defense tech goes back and forth so many times it's honestly hilarious. In the end they just start making gundams smaller and faster because there's no surviving beam hits anyway.

>>97926970
>ghost bears won their own civil war
jesus fucking christ i'm sick of them being the writers' favorite clan

>>97928442
Oyw battleships get critically damaged by 20mm machine cannons. They have no real armour to speak of and mainly exist to carry mobile suits and provide big gun support, at least by the end of it. Remember that Zakus with 120mm guns, basically AC5's, shredded the Feddie fleet.

>>97928649
Gundam lasers are not battletech lasers. Gundam lasers where dropped due to a lack of ability to power a sufficiently powerful weapon, and by the time they solved that issue they had moved on to beam weapons (which where part of the solution, using precharged "shells").
Battletech never had that issue, and thus Battletech lasers are effective weapons. A Medium Laser hits about as hard as a Beam Magnum. Maybe a bit harder.
Meanwhile the Stinger is faster, and has jumpjets whereas the Zaku doesn't. And the Stingers armour can shrug off several hits from the Zaku whereas it only needs to hit once.

>>97928737
Clans gotta win something once in a while to at least give the veneer of being a relevant power.

At least let them win against themselves.

>>97928006
Don't forget the nome-US supply issues. Good luck finding Battletech stuff in the UK.

>>97928833
>a medium laser hits as hard as a beam magnum
Man, I too remember all the times a medium laser took out a city block and every mech on it!

>>97928918
Ngl I can't figure out how Gundam are supposed to work. In 08th MS they're like slow giant infantry, then in other series their maneuverability skyrockets to the moon (literally) and they would at least have to be the equivalent of jump 50 battlemechs. In say - witch from mercury or seed destiny. Then we go to sort of tanks in Iron Blooder Orphans

Like, they can skirmish effectively with aerospace fighters or participate in fleet battles so they've gotta be supersonic at least and we know they can pull that shit off in atmosphere.

The power level in Gundam seems to radically fluctuate with the writer whereas generally Battletech writers at least know about how fast a mech is actually moving in most iterations.

>>97928737
Which clan has the most fiat behind it?
Bears, Wolves, or Adders?

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Does anyone have a high quality scan of Mechwarrior Technology of Destruction book? The one I found online was poopoo quality.

>>97928902

Hell, even Etsy isn't as good as it was before GW started causing problems for them and they had to change their ToS.

>>97928918
My bad, I meant the Beam Spray Gun from the GM
The Beam Magnum is more of a Heavy PPC.

>>97929007
Wolves don't just have fiat, they're a fucking fiat factory.

>>97929035
Tundra Wolf is the poster child for everything wrong with DA mech design

>>97929195
Alright. Cool. We all really care.
So, do you have a high quality scan of Mechwarrior Technology of Destruction book? The one I found online was poopoo quality.

>>97929272
What's wrong with the one that's literally second result on google?

>>97929272
No but I do also have strong opinions on the Jupiter

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Looking for ideas and tips from anons who incorporate infantry into their mech bases. Pic is a rough concept.

>>97929384
A little silly for a locust, but it does look really good I think.

I have a bunch of extra infantry but I don't know if they'd be distracting on bases since they're 6mm scale. I've long accepted that between that and IWM BA, infantry and Battle Armor work somewhat on "Sid Meijer" scale, where people are just bigger so you can see them on a map.

>>97929506
I have enjoyed using the cardboard markers for Clan Foot that comes with Scouring Sands. Reminds me of terrified people running around in the Godzilla pictures.
That said, I just ordered some IWM infantry for my Dark Age insurgency project.

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Running this on Monday against a lance of Davions. Should be fun. Gotta get them painted up though.

Has anyone made BA models that are actually meant to be hanging off of a mech? That would be a pretty neat integration for omnis.

>>97929007
Wolves by a mile, but the Bears are irrationally stronger than they ought to be given their mid performance in the invasion and then hitching their wagon to an already- devastated rump state. At least the Ravens picked a nation still intact to roost in when they flipped.

>>97929551
Actually on second look they aren't bad. I might have to prepaint them before putting them done; painting them en situ is going to be way too much work, but I can liven up some of my bases with a few footsloggers I think.

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>>97929506
I thought the same but I just put in my head he’s supporting infantry on his model vs the typical prowling around for ass shots he will be doing on the board. I’ve wondered the same but I figure if it’s not too busy it will add a bit more then take away. I know IWM has more detail for its bump in size but do you think it’s too jarring the size difference for putting on the mechs base instead of just a standard foot platoon hex? Love the kuritan models they are selling but I think I would just reserve them for their own base.

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>>97929610
I still have a lot of work to do on mine (excuse the bad photo) but I don't have much use for more stands of them otherwise. Putting a squad or a few lone troopers on a base that's lacking in terrain is a nice change of pace and adds visual interest I think.

Locust stats aside, the locust sculpt gives a lot of space for troopers so I think it ends up looking pretty okay and it's not as silly as having troops underfoot of an assault for example; where you definitely don't want to be underfoot.

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>>97929559
I'm also running an avatar R in my game today, it's a fun looking config.

>>97929564
Locust Labs has some in her 28mm IS Standards that you could scale down to be 6mm easily.

>>97929685
The CERLL in the head is such a weird decision.

>>97929603
I haven’t decided how to paint them yet. They come is strips of three, and it may well be easier to paint them up on the strips. My idea was to cut the strips so that each man is separate and scatter them around one of IWM’s recessed top bases and fill it in with green stuff. I’d prime and paint the infantry at that stage and then base them afterwards. But I’ll decide when I have them in-hand,

>>97929697
It really is, it's not not like it's hurting for crit slots.

Did the "training farm" units in the Arc-Royal Defense Cordon see any major action? I know Jade Falcon attacked, but it seems like it was mostly countered by Wolf-in-exile and big boy fedcom units taking a break from their civil war.

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Can someone upload the FedCom Civil War trilogy audiobooks or the Archer Christifori trilogy auidobooks plz

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>Clan Coyote talking shit during a council meeting, circa 3049

>>97929138
>The wolves have a Fiat factory
What are they, Italians?

>>97929742
Wtaf is that mech trying to be?

>>97929998
Penetrator, easy guess given the namedrop

>>97929007
I technically put the Ravens up there because of warships. Specifically, they're never going to be able to do anything besides when they show up they're going to win because they have warships.

But since CGL hates warships, they're never going to get to do anything.

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>>97929998
>trying to be

Someone was talking smack about Protos recently. I feel like clearing things up a bit.
Unero numero: Initiative sinks. Protos make shit initiative sinks as when you buy them you assign them to points, or groups of 5. The entire point counts as one initiative step, so if you have 3 Sirens its not 3 initiative steps, its one in which all 3 units move.
Unero the secondo: Utility.
Protos are actually pretty good for what they are. A Minotaur ERML costs as much as an Elemental point and whilst it doesnt put out quite as much firepower it has a far longer engagement range, is just as mobile, and is a lot tougher. And just about equal in firepower terms once the SRM's are gone. Not to mention it shrugs off 30ish percent of all hits as a "near miss". Others are even cheaper and can be good for anything from infantry hunting to wolf packing - a lot of people underestimate what a point of protomechs can do, and they are really cheap for what they do.
In the fluff protos where an act of desperation from a clan that had pretty much no friends and was desperate for firepower after suffering crippling losses and failing to make good on at least some recovery by using captured IS mechs after the one Solamha colonel trying to smuggle them in to ensure a supply of at least some functional mechs was discovered and executed . They where cheaper and easier to produce than a full mech but basically drove the pilot insane, assuming psychostigmatic feedback didnt cripple or kill them first, or just render them a vegetable, and the phenotype used meant that air coverage took a hit - something that was a concern, especially for those Clans with occupation zones as the IS forces where not ones to bid away air assets.
There was also no real reason or need to produce Protos when there where ample resources and production facilities to churn out actual mechs.

>>97930123
I like Protomechs.
Protomechs are cool.

>>97930130
No.
Either have infantry shmooks/BA or meks like God intended.

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>>97930148
>Either have infantry shmooks/BA or meks like God intended.
Why not all at once?

>>97930123
>where

>>97930123
They are fun and can fit in the ecosystem I believe.

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It'd be cool if CGL released a box or two of Dark Era IndustrialMechs, maybe even with MOD and Standard versions of them sold in different boxes.

>>97930265
Has CGL released a single Industrial/Security mech yet? I'd like a pack of 'em.

>>97930265
There's a few I want, but they are extremely niche. It's also way more likely for them to release only the MOD versions because those are slightly less niche than the regular ones. There are quite a few I really want at least one of, but almost none of the ones I want are MODs. Gimme a Vampyr, Jabberwocky, Patron, and St. Florian. I've got ideas for using all of them. But not the MOD versions.

>>97929980
Considering they switched sides halfway through the Refusal War you might be onto something there?

>>97930324
>>97930265
>>97930302
I actually expect that we'll start getting Industrials in the fifth slot in some boxes, same as how we've been getting support vehicles.

>>97930159
based

>>97930338
As long as we get a plastic Crosscut/Loggermech I'm happy.

>>97930047
>>97930001
Its so fucking ugly. Jesus fuck.

>>97930465
I imagine it'll be the first industrial they do, since it's the most iconic and had the most visibility in MWDA.

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My beloved when

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>>97930469
the AMS chode is an acquired taste

>>97930469
Fuck you I like it >:(

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>>97930046
It is a sad day that we can not have Warships be a thing on the regular. Cant have battletech be an every level sort of sci fi can we?

>>97928833
>Oyw battleships get critically damaged by 20mm machine cannons.
To be fair, mechs and dropships get critically damaged by 5.56 ARs.

>>97930046
Well it's big stompy robot game and you can't do anything against the warships with robots

>>97930515
See, the NEW one isn't horrific. But the old one, ARGH. Yuck.

>>97930592
>>97930624
Can we not just let the big stompy robots fight ON the warships? We have mechs designed to work in a vacuum.

>Clan Snow Raven manufactures all the mechs designed to work in a vacuum

It’s lonely at the top

>>97930592
>Cant have battletech be an every level sort of sci fi can we?
It's not a single player computer game, so we're all limited by the players we play against. If there was demand, we'd have them.

Just like how MWO ended up being nothing but a few flavors of team deathmatch. Whenever a new game mode was added by PGI the community DC'd to avoid it and bitched up a storm that it wasn't about shooting at mechs.

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>>97930624
>can't do anything against the warships with robots
Just have partial wing lmao

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What ‘mech would he pilot?
and do you recognize him as the rightful, true, Ilkhan?

>>97930681
Gargoyle

>>97930624
It is Battletech not mechtech. Includes all forms of battle. So should we ignore infantry, battlearmor, vehicles, and commando shit?

>>97930665
Have you ever seen what a breach check does to a motherfucker? There was a no atmo fight going on at the next table over last weekend and they were killing multiple mechs a turn to their engines decompressing, every turn, for approximately 4 turns before one guy ran out of mechs. It would have been a salvage dream considering most of them had zero critical damage or even internal structure damage.

If CGL made Dark Age themed faction ForcePacks, one/two boxes would be RotS. What other faction would be the most characteristic of the era?

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>>97930833
They'd likely make RotS splinter packs in lieu of Successor State and clan packs.

>Swordsworn instead of a Fedsuns pack
>Dragon's Fury
>Stormhammers
>Steel Wolves
>Spirit Cats
etc.

>>97930681
An ancient but well maintained Marauder MAD-2R with his original unit markings.

>>97930848
I think one of the factions represented has to be the RAF itself (this is also quite useful for ilClan).
So the question really is, is there another single faction as emblematic of that era as the Republic?
Cool Crosscut, I just ordered three IWM for my next project.

>>97930877
Stoners are the face of the Dark Age. Anything else even close is some kind of Stoner splinter, even the Remnant.

>>97930833
I think Bannson's Raiders are the most uniquely Dark Age faction.

If they made a force pack that was a Raider, a Demolisher, a retrotech mech and a cutting edge RoTS mech with two infantry platoons and a battle armor platoon it would sum up the gameplay of that era pretty well.

>>97930910
>No Gargoyles
Shame on you, anon.

>>97930833
Give me a The Duke's and Duchess’ Own Corps of Foot and Horse pack before a normal Marik one.

>>97930617
Not allowed to hit dropships in the air anymore since that one farmer

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Trying out using the Aces cards to control Classic opponents. I'm playing a Hinterlands campaign. My mercs, Cobalt Company (Bushwacker X4 and Wolfhound 3S) Took the Esteros contract and are operating against hostile mercs. First engagement has them defending on Breakthrough vs an Orion, Flea, and Wolverine. They've legged the Flea to death and are working on the Orion. So far, the Aces cards are about as good at the game as a player who's got five to ten games under his belt.

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I wish CGL could figure out how to work out a deal for a new BattleTech anime. The ‘90s cartoon really did nail the feel of the setting in many ways. I’d like to see something with that spirit but with a more elegant visual style.
>>97931179
Is the Orion giving you much trouble? Which deck are you using for it?

>>97931214
It's the MRM Orion, so even with the MRM playtest rules it's not super scary. Using the Brawler deck

Would the ROSEBUD mechs have been the mechs that are completely unknown new ones for the Kuritans? Or something they knew existed and/or even had in very small number (as heirloom, relic, etc) but didn't know this many existing?
>and Teddy and co didn't find Com* having this many mechs suspicious?

>>97931179
Is it easy to convert to Classic? I thought of using the 4' x 4' hexmap but with mech's everything doubled (movement, range, etc) to run the Scouring Sands campaign using the Classic but dunno how will that work

>>97931214
Better go start sending letters to Michael Eisner.

He still owns the rights for anything TV related.

>>97931306
AS does have rules for using hexes already (and classic has rules for not using hexes) so it shouldn't be that hard unless the cards call out specific game actions.

>>97931306
To convert to hex's you reduce everything by half I believe, the rules is explicitly stated in the AS Manual. If you use Megamek for the cards you can set it for hex based rules.

>>97931314
You would think there would be an effort to try to reclaim all of the rights by this point.

>>97931314
Webseries aren't television.

>>97931337
If Microsoft keeps circling the drain, the vidya rights might go up for sale. And since most of the other big players are also dead or dying, it might even not go to Conglomocorp Software. Maybe. Don't get your hopes up though.

>>97931293
They were all SLDF regular army stuff, and therefore known by someone, but the average soldier/mechwarrior might not recognize or know much about something that went out of production hundreds of years before.


Theodore is well aware that Comstar isn't what they seem by the time they make their offer, and Heir to the Dragon makes it clear he does not trust Myndo at all. The original offer included pilots for the machines, which was rejected.

>>97931358
To add to my point here though, CGL has shown such thin loophole technicalities wont stand in their way, they produced amd sold pachs of minis for AS because "That's not individual minis for battletech", so a webseries not being syndicated television is in the realm of shit they'd do.

But you don't want that, CGL wouldn't make a Battletech show, they would make an idpol show wearing the corpse of Battletech as a costume, as the crap they pay assholes like bryan young to produce demonstrates: tranny princesses and raycis clanners, woke nonsense.
Do you want a cartoon so much that you'd watch the name of Battletech be cannibalized and raped (in that order) to get it?

>>97931426
They produced those minis with IWM's blessing. They were even sharing sculpts and were allowed to sell a handful of individual minis without even the thin fiction of being a "unit pack". We'll probably never know the exact terms of their agreement, but it was definitely a softball. The entire reason the IWM owner agreed to sell the business to CGL is because they were already working very closely to begin with.

>>97931293
A number, but not all, of the ROSEBUD ‘Mechs were lostech. The Combine would have recognized them from history books, but no one had seen them for a century or more. Some of these were provided to the Dragon stripped of otherwise-extinct Star League tech; others were provided intact (partially because the Precentor Dieron at the time was a Combine agent).
>suspicious
Of what?

>>97931333
Yeah I heard of 2" = 1 hex, but then it's kind of hard to do the Scouring Sands missions that are set in 4' x 4' with preset terrains and stuffs

>>97931448
>how the fuck supposed-to-be spess at&t have this many mint historic mechs ready to hand out?

>>97931508
Waterly publicly announced the “founding” of the Com Guards after the false flag raid on the Sarna HPG. But anyhow, Combine intelligence knew ComStar had a stockpile of ‘Mechs as early as 3028. The notion that the Blessed Order had lostech ‘Mechs would have made sense.

>>97931536
Everyone also knew that a lot of the SLDF had defected to Comstar in the early days, and while their initial military was disbanded after their neutrality was secured and agreed to by everyone, the actual materiel never appeared anywhere else. It would be extremely foolish to believe that Comstar had destroyed it.

>>97931440
That's you making an assumption. If they were permitted they wouldn't have needed AS as an excuse.

>>97931575
If they weren't permitted, IWM would not have shared sculpts, let them make individual minis with no cards, and would not have sold the business to CGL.

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>>97931306
Just cut all distances in half (12" is 6 hexes, etc)

The cards are pretty easy to interpret to classic, because they describe vague goals like "get behind the enemy, be at least X distance from the enemy, be in wooss" and you come up with a movement that fulfills as many of those conditions as you can. It comes with a deck for each battlefield role, so brawlerswill try to close while missile boats and snipers keep their distance and skirmishers try to jump into rear arcs or break LOS. The only decision they don't fulfill is which weapons to fire (because damage is abstracted in AS) and because TMM is abstracted in AS, I choose the movement that gives it the best TMM (or other defensive modifier)

Had to make dinner and eat it, about to get back to playing.

>>97931589
IWM couldn't have afforded a legal battle.

Stop asking for a Battletech tv show. Television isn't good.

>>97931589
The number of CGL minis made in single packages while IWM was independently operating amounts to just over a dozen, two of them being 300 piece limited runs, or roughly one every quarter.

If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, more likely than not its a duck. If CGL could legally do so it would have been trivial to put IWM under; it's clear there was some kind of friendly agreement not to put pressure on each other's mini production. Friendly or unfriendly, the premium minis were clearly exceptions to the rule; likely produced in limited amounts with IWM's blessing.

>>97931624
CGL folds like wet tissue at the mere threat of a legal battle.
Also, if they were going to violate any license, it would be for digital game aids. The HMP guy has been MIA for years and has shown no sign of even being aware of what's happened with Battletech since forever 3067 ended.

>>97931642
Why would they bother making one when the megamek crew does it for free?

>>97931649
Because then they could sell it as official. Also they could develop things like an app that tracks record sheets live during the game, or to run the AI cards for Aces.
Because of that license, Heavy Metal Pro is the only official software for Battletech and it will remain so until that guy dies, even though it's woefully out of date and barely even runs on modern computers.

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My Bushwacker and Wolfhound were able to stack up on the orion and inflict leg and gyro crits. Orion fell, took more leg damage, which was a 12 and snapped the leg off. Bushwacker then stomped on the Orion's arm.

If this were a human I'm playing against, I'd offer to let him surrender here, but since it's just a deck of cards, we keep going. I want an Orion.

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>>97931727
Orion failed to get up after that, Bushwacker scores the execution with an engine kill

>>97931752
Dunno why my pictures rotate so hard.

Result: I score two of my three objectives, but since I inflicted no structure damage on the Wolverine, I don't get all three. I collect 500 Combat Pay.

The Orion and Flea are both salvage, and I have 30% salvage rights. 510 from the Flea and 1501 from the Wolverine means the total salvage value here is 2011/2=1005. I receive 30% of that, or 302, and I'm going to purchase the Orion at its selling price of 701.

Cobalt Company's fortunes are looking up.

>>97931784
>1501 from the Wolverine
*Orion

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I believe that there is a joke among the Clan Mechwarriors (though depending on the specific clan, maybe not so much a joke) that nobody actually “builds” Nova Omnimechs. That rather, if a mechbay is left empty for too long, a Nova will just appear in it when nobody’s looking. Because in their minds “it’s the only way to explain why every clan has such a large surplus of these walking air fryers”.

sometimes I like to imagine my own mech mini collection as a barometer for what mechs are common, which are rare, or extinct, and how they’ve been distributed across the factions. Yes it’s dumb, but sometimes silly anecdotes and stories come out of it

>>97931629
Trying Too Hard

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>>97931629
But, you guys already got that.

It didn’t run for very long, but it still existed.

>>97932050
Season 2 never ever...
:-(

>>97932050
Yes, but what if we get Battletech anime but good?

>>97932095
Doesn’t Robotech also technically count?

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What book is this from?

>>97932110
Eh, I dunno. I'll say no as no Clans or WoB or ComStar or anything that feels Battletech.

>>97931214
Not in current condition of western entertainment industry.
Maybe Japs could pull it off but they need tard wrangler to not turn in in to visual diearea with15m tall ballerinas.

>>97932110
Dougram is s better match for BT in tone. Macross/Robotech has invading aliens and much more focus on transforming mechs, which are a rare boondoggle tech in BT, but Dougram could for the most part easily take place on some random periphery planet.

>>97932019
Good sir, Nova is no joke.
Nova is love, Nova is life.
Behead all who insult Nova.

>>97932218
>random periphery planet with assaults and heavies galore
Yeah actually sounds just about right.

>>97928201
A Horned Owl is a Zaku.

>>97932390
Just better and looks better and jumps better.

>>97932220

Even the Inner Sphere understood this, hence why the Black Hawk KU is literally just a 1 to 1 Nova.

>>97931314
I thought it was Dean Devlin or is that just for a film?
>>97932247
Just like playing HBS Battletech!

>>97930123
>>97930130

I was dicking around with The Society stuff on Megamek yesterday and I think they might have been onto something with where they were going.
All of their superheavy Protos have at least one good variant, the basic Sprite is kind of shit (and we already have enough good missile platforms in the faction that we don't need an inferior one) and the Fusilade testmodel is just weird and finnicky. But there's one where they slap a Clan ERLL onto it and you know what? That's actually really good.
The Boggart honestly is pretty nasty in packs. One Plasma Cannon is an annoyance. Three can be terrifying, as anyone who's tried out the Septicemia CZ will tell you. The MPL version is undergunned, but hey, 7 damage and -2 to hit is nothing to sneeze at in this faction.

Hell, even the Hobgoblin has that 2 variant that gives it 4 AP Gauss Rifles.
Then they just went about slapping maglinks onto other versions because they didn't have any elementals to hang onto their omnimechs.

>>97932220
If you knew what had bought a golden Nova in MWO you'd be wanting to burn it in fire.

>>97928364
>Porchgate is honestly just the biggest mismanagement
That was 20 years ago who even cares anymore?

>>97931589
>>97931636
You idiots do know that the people who own CGL and the people who own(ed) IWM are <friends>, right? They don't want to sue each other because they actually LIKE each other.

>>97932523
ah yes, i know i steal almost a million dollars from my friends all the time.

>>97932050
And it was awful on every level

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>>97932488
We never forget; we know full well what they did to us.

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>>97932542
The Cabarov feels like it could be a Hoplite variant.

>>97932540
It wasn't even that big a deal. Quit bitching about 20 year old drama.

>>97932526
IWM had absolutely nothing to do with porchgate and since they were separate entities, the improper funds mingling didn't affect them at all. What are you even on about? It really just sounds like you want a reason to be mad at CGL and you're going to deliberately take the most bad faith interpretation of events you can in order to justify being mad. But that would make you an intellectually dishonest cunt, and I'm sure you aren't one of those. Right, anon?

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>>97932689
fuck CGL

>>97932542

So, of these... the Jagd Dougram is the Shadowhawk, the Bigfoot is the Battlemaster, the Ironfoot is the Thunderbolt, Blockhead is the Wolverine, Roundfacer is the Griffon, Crab Gunner is the Goliath and Blizzard Gunner is the Scorpion? I get that right?

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>>97932706
Looks right to me.

>>97932218

What was the other source material for the earlier stuff? Crusher Joe?

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>>97932795

This is also missing the Valkyrie ironically. Plus, technically speaking the Wasp and Stinger are based on minor subvariants of the VF-1, with slightly different head designs.
To be honest, one of the best things about them using the Macross stuff is that it enabled the ground based destroid stuff to be front and center, as opposed to being mostly just background elements.
In Macross, the Spartan and Tomahawk have what? Three seconds of footage? That is usually looped? In the entire show?

In Battletech, one is the personal ride of not one, but two of the main characters of the early books, and the others a fucking Warhammer.

>>97932687
>effectively crippled any new Battletech content for a decade
>completely killed off several other reboots of games that people where excited for
>"not a big deal"
Shill or just new?

>>97932874
>>effectively crippled any new Battletech content for a decade
Was literally a decade. It's why they had to run the 2018 KS. Remember them saying AGoAC was going to be literally the last box set ever if it didn't sell ridiculously well? /btg/ remembers.

>>97930681
This is how I picture Clan pilots

>>97932878
The fact that Battletech has to rely on a kickstarter to begin with is just a sheer sign of embarrassment and how mismanaged the IP has been.

>>97932917
This is really just a product of miniature manufacturing not being an integrated part of the business. They can't do shit without a huge pile of money to pay the chink.

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>Battletech fans letting CGL waste their money on anything but BattleTech products they paid for

>>97932874
Not to mention the harm it did to Shadow run as well

>>97932019
The Nova S is perfectly fine

>>97932456
U mean hero mech with Gauss?

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>>97933163
>he doesn't know

>>97933182
Ehhh no I dont, speak plainly.

>>97933093
There's a Chem laser variant that cooks pretty hard too. The T iirc.
12 Medium Chemical Lasers that runs cool or gains one heat on a 5 jump

60 damage in IS quality medium lasers for 1579bv.

>>97933189
MechWarrior Online Clans launch. Pay £420 for a Clen mech with a gold paintjob. Whales flocked

>>97933237
Not the guy you're responding to but that's it? Shit man, I thought it would be something crazy. It's pretty easy to f2p farm out pretty much anything you want in mwo and they even give out premium currency or free mechs at decent rates.

Back at launch/beta they made you pay the full cbill cost to fix your mech making the game and pretty much every mech unplayable if you weren't a whale or insanely good at the game. Now that was a fucking disaster.

>>97933189
Figured the image would be clear as day? When PGI first announced the Clans for MWO part of the promotion they did is that you could buy $500 golden edition of a particular mech to show off yourself as a super special backer. This naturally rubbed some people up the wrong way at the time and some of the people who bought into this were known to be a tad degenerate.

>>97931784
I like the Orion but I never get good use out of them. Theyre cursed to die in the first 3 rounds to TACs which is a shame because theyre just a beefy Centurion and Centurions fit almost anywhere.

>>97933396
They're a lot better with the new rules. Ammo damage cap lets them shrug off more hits.

>>97933427
Or you could just play clans where almost everything has case. But with the damage cap that's kind of a pointless tax on heavies rather than a value add if all you're worried about is TACs.

Playing IS is probably more future proof given what we know about bv3 and the core mechanics of objective based gameplay anyway.

>>97933472
Even for heavies and assaults, 20 damage to the internal structure is still very very bad. NuCASE reduces it to 10 and blocks transfer, which can mean a lot when your rear armor is blown out and you're a fat slow heavy or assault with no way to keep zippy clan lights out of your butthole.

>>97933214

I should try the Chem Laser + Fusilade Sprite again. Just load them up with HE rounds and let the dice fall where they may.

>>97933237
>>97933299
Ah, never gave them a dime so no issue for me.
Whales gonna whale, you can't stop people from making bad decisions.

>>97933427
> Ammo damage cap lets them shrug off more hits.
Ammo damage cap is for cowards. You knew the risks when you chose to field a missile boat, now live with it.

If you can’t handle seeing your mech go up from a lucky TAC, then you should stick to energy weapons

>>97933577
I think its more of an issue where I don't think people would want their favorite mech getting associated with say a furry diaperfag.

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Exciting development: Aces is realistic enough that it commits to conga lines just like a real player.

>>97933763
I love charging conga lines and causing domino effects.

>>97933763
>>97933798
I still don’t get why some players will commit to a conga line strategy.

I’ve only seen it used against me once in TW, and the thing just fell apart.

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>>97933903
The allure of point blank rear armor shots is hard to resist.

Anyway, my Wolfhound came away badly from that, took an engine hit and I had it leave rather than risk it. Next turn, the Phoenix Hawk got behind my Bushwacker and inflicted a rear armor crit that cascaded into an ammo explosion and only Case II saved my mech. Pilot passed her consciousness rolls and was also able to retreat. The cards win that round.

Also, I found a Chameleon for sale.

>>97933763
Looks more like an attempt at a Livesey walk?

>>97933918
Oh! THAT kind of conga line.
Yeah, I can see how that can accidentally happen.

The guy I was thinking of arranged HIS mechs in a conga line and tried to March them up to my position. Fell apart when my fast-heavies and brawlers crashed into it.

Is there any physical requirement to pilot a mech? Like, 'you must be X ft or taller' 'must be Y years old or older' kind of stuff. Other than the neurohelmet brain compatibility.

>>97933918
where did you get the editable pdf?

>>97934159
You must be able to hit all of the buttons and levers and knobs with both hands and feet. You must be able to exist in a sauna for the duration of an entire battle without fainting. iirc, neurohelmets don't work too well on kids, and depending on the model you might have to shave your head a certain way to maintain good contact with the helmet electrodes. More advanced models need less or no contact and might be able to function through hair.

So drunk I think U'm gonna be sic, Someone give me a unit schem to paint myArcher.

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Recently watched the Science Insanity video about the Vindicator. In it they describe it, if I may paraphrase, as a 45-ton mess designed by committee, built by Temu, and is as much a danger to its own pilots as it is the enemy. (At least one Liao was nearly killed by his own Vindicator).

And as someone who’s used the VND-1R quite a bit, I can’t actually refute the accusations. Yes it’s slow, yes it’s janky, the armor never quite feels like it’s adequate enough.

But for some reason, despite fully acknowledging that it’s basically a crappy centurion knockoff, my feelings about the vindicator is still “eh, it’s fine, I’ll make it work”. And so far, it’s never failed me. Though, admittedly I don’t run it like a trooper, and I’ve got my fingers crossed the whole time.

I don’t know if that says something about the Vindicator or me…

>>97934226
Don't forget that it's also designed specifically to not be easy to maintain without direct technical support from the manufacturer. Spare parts are only available to known operators on a white list controlled by the state, and are proprietary enough that it's difficult to substitute anything else.

>>97934166
CGL discord, they're pinned in the mercs campaign channel

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>>97934239
Yeah, they did mention that the Cappellans are weirdly possessive of their Vindicators. They refuse to sell them, refuse to lend them out to allies, build them to only use specially designed Cappellan parts and not generic. It’s like they’re paranoid that if even one Vindicator fell into the hands of their enemies, they’ll learn Cappellan military secrets.

Like “OH NO! They might discover that our 45-ton death trap is only “mid”-tier!”

>>97934226
I mean, it works. That's the thing about the Vindicator. It's not flashy, but it's a workhorse mdeium with OK armor, jump jets, and a PPC. That's enough to get the job done, even if it's not going to win any prices for best medium mech.

>>97934226
> it’s basically a crappy centurion knockoff,
Funny thing is I'd say its actually better than the average Centurion in almost every way. It has better armor, its far more mobile, similar levels of firepower and far less ammo dependency. For an introtech trooper design it pretty much is one of the best out there easily able to hold its own against mechs heavier than it. Centurion wishes it was half the mech the Vindicator is.

What I do find though is that the people who deride the Vindicator generally push it to perform miracles that no mech could realistically be expected to perform and get disappointed when it doesn't meet their unreasonable standards.

>>97934364
fudge, hate stuffs being locked behind account making

>>97934413
>CN9-AL vs. VND-1SIC

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>Com Guard Black Knight swordmogs and framemogs Clan sub-5 beta in brutal picture captured during the recent Tukayyid livestream.

>>97934401
It's not a secret, it's a soft form of the company store. They'll give them out left and right to mercenaries working for them, sell them for cheap, replace destroyed or captured mechs for near free (or actually free), etc. Spare parts and technical support are contingent on continuing to work for them and very hard to find elsewhere.

>>97934423
Average anon, yet even in that case JJ will give the 1SIC an advantage over an AL in a fair few scenarios.
>>97934430
>Yes I will tread on snake!

>>97934430
I HATE that I understand the meaning of this post.

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>>97934462
Steel Vipers had the best drip

>>97934413
> For an introtech trooper design it pretty much is one of the best out there easily able to hold its own against mechs heavier than it.
Of course, the closest comparison I’d make is to the baseline Griffin, and even then the Vindicator has slightly better armor, better heat management, and those lasers means that if anything gets too close, it at least has options for how to get itself out.

> What I do find though is that the people who deride the Vindicator generally push it to perform miracles that no mech could realistically be expected to perform and get disappointed when it doesn't meet their unreasonable standards.
Really? Because on my first day it seemed pretty obvious what to do with it: find a wooded hill and park it (it was never going to get a worthwhile TMM anyway), and send PPC & LRM5 rounds down range while heavier mechs keep the bulk of the fighting “over there” and to give your opponent something scarier than “Temu Trooper” to think about.

>>97934458
>>97934430
i don't get it

>>97934477
Wonder what the Clans would do with the Vindicator if they were looking to make a IIC version.

>>97934496
It would either be Valkyrie IIC, "what if Initiate had even more guns but still no speed", or Clint IIC II.

>>97934477
Griffin has slightly better armor than the Vindicator but yeah they should be used in a similar manner.
As for the use, I'd have a few pretty pennies for the amount of times I've seen it be used very aggressively with people trying to get it to brawl on the frontlines and then act surprised it gets torn to shreds. Makes me feel like forming a society for the prevention of misuse of Vindicators.
>>97934496
Wyvern IIC considering that the Wyvern is more or less the SLDF Vindicator.

>>97934543
The Wyvern not even having modern line art is a crime

>>97934443
I still say the Fedsuns should have tried to undercut the scheme by opening a parts factory for a non-existent Exonerator that's just knockoff vindie parts. Don't even have to succeed at it, MASK burning the place down and cappie aligned merchants trying to clear out the existing stock before it gets spread too far would be a fun plot point in basically any era.

>>97934554
Same with the Bombardier and a bunch of other star leaguey mechs. Some of them don't even look half bad in their metal sculpts, but the art on many is atrocious.

>>97934543
> I'd have a few pretty pennies for the amount of times I've seen it be used very aggressively with people trying to get it to brawl on the frontlines and then act surprised it gets torn to shreds.

1) I think you’re right about the armor thing. But frankly the extra heat sinks are worth it.

2) really? That kills me. What on earth made them look at a 4/6/4 medium mech who’s primary and secondary weapons are long-range shooters with minimum range bands, made them think “oh yeah, this is for getting up close and slapping the shit outta some motherfuckers”.

My Spirit Cats WILL have Protomechs.
My Spirit Cats WILL use Protomechs.
You CANNOT stop me adding Protomechs into my Spirit Cats army.

>>97934554
Wyvern routinely gets forgotten about which is sad as its not a half bad design. Just doesn't really get any upgrades I feel that are worth keeping it around in later eras.
>>97934587
>the extra heat sinks are worth it.
I agree. Extremely nice to have.
>What on earth made them look at a 4/6/4 medium mech who’s primary and secondary weapons are long-range shooters with minimum range bands, made them think “oh yeah, this is for getting up close and slapping the shit outta some motherfuckers”.
Funny enough I see people making the similar mistake with the Centurion where they ignore the LRM10 and they basically go "I have big cannon and lasers! I therefore can get up and slap peop- wait why are they ripping me to pieces?" and I'm like no shit Sherlock you've only got 8.5 tons of armor which is pathetically low for a mech that weight! Vindicator fuckups are generally kind of similar as they want to get inside a closer range bracket and use all their weapons but then get trapped as they drift close enough to get bum rushed usually by a very angry heavy. Have to drill into them that the medium laser is a backup not a primary or secondary weapon.

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Who are the Neo Zeon of Battletech? The Neo-Blakists/Manei Domini in hiding during the Dark Age?

>>97934659
I FUCKING LOVE NEO ZEON!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQjoU0Nrdfs

>>97934659
Kokuryu-kai

>>97934659
Yeah the Neo-Blakists like Mot's Domini or the Blessed Order probably fit best.

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>>97932118
That is the second book of the Dominion civil war novellas called “A plague on Rasalhague” by Brian Young

>>97934817
Thank you, anon. At least now I know what book to avoid like the plague.

>>97934667
While they can operate on a world/moon with little to no atmosphere, the fact that Battlemechs can't fight in the void of space will always anger me. We are denied such awesome scenes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0is_m1k28Q

>>97935003
They can fight in the void of space, but the vast majority aren't built for it and the ones that are built for it become the space equivalent of an urbanmech. It's something like 1/3rd or 1/4th of your jump rating becomes your safe thrust, so most mechs are 1/2 or 2/3 right out of the gate, but they can be there.

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>>97935048
>>97935070
Yeah, so nothing like vid related. Like I said, it will always anger me
>ThAt'S nOt My BaTtlEtEcH!!!!
Suck my dick.

>>97934817
Which mist Lynx configuration is that on the cover?

>>97935095
Mist Lynx Tranny Configuration - Introduced by the SJW Brigade in the mid 2020s.

>>97935003
It'd be cool to get some sort of hyper-advanced Machina Domini LAM or something that's similar to these Suits in terms of mobility when the WoB/Manei Domini return.

>>97935095
The writer said both of them are G in the book, but somehow the art got fucked up apparently

Does anyone have the The Dominion Civil War series and Silent Assets, none of it has been uploaded to Story Time.

>>97928533
Beam Rifles fire concentrated electrically neutral particles into whatever they because of this they have extremely higher potential at penetrating even Battlemech armor vs the electrically charged PPCs.

Also they didn't completely phase out laser weapons since Zeon did what Amaris couldn't and create massive colony laser weapons out of already constructed colonies. With the first premature firing wiping out half the federation fleet with one blast.

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Plastic Hitotsume Kozo soon plz thank you CGL

>>97935229
and No-Dachi

Trying to make a video for the Hoplite and I'm looking for official art for it. Anyone got anything outside the TRO entries and the TCG cards?

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>>97934838
For whatever little it’s worth the first book was free of anything like that and while I haven’t finished the second yet (think I’m like halfway though not far after the part posted) it has been an enjoyable experience. If you want to see something pertaining to the Dominion civil war I think you might enjoy it.

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>>97935487
Check out the OG 4th SW art. It's rad. Plus you have Operation Klondike.

>>97935490
Not him, I'm gonna give it a read because Young generally puts out enjoyable pulp, but I'm waiting to have all four parts out before I do.

>>97928973
Those series are from completely different alternate universes that have nothing to do with each other. 8th ms team is from the "universal century" timeline that spans multiple series and in universe decades, starting from the original back in 1979. Iron blooded orphans and witch from Mercury are completely separate universes with their own timelines and tech. The only common denominator is that the main protagonist mech is a "Gundam" which doesn't really mean anything other than that it has the "look".

>>97932689
OK LOREN, GO HOME, YOU'RE DRUNK. YOU COMMIE P.O.S.