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https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/81307731/#81307731

That's why I don't make any threads, I keep messing up these links. And it's only when I try to OP the draw improvement general.
No where else. No where else

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Okay look at this

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>>81474225
Same drawing but this time I took the picture at angle I had my head positioned at

I'm fucked

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>>81474241
oh. oh my. that’s way better
one sec, i’ll go perspective wrap everything else you’ve sent

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>>81474225
>>81474241
Yup, I've had this problem too. The best solution would be to get an easel (either a standing one, or one of these handy tabletop ones) or a clipboard (which is quite useful because you can pretty much take it anywhere and it lets you draw while reclining in bed or on a couch, for example) so that you can look at the page at a direct angle and don't have to worry about perspective distortion.

>>81474528
I hope I can't find one offline

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Starting to move away from trying to use boxes to draw the torso and pelvis and I've focused more on just using the shoulders and pelvic bone land makes to figure out where to draw the ribcages.

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bunny sketches, and an attempt at furgonomics

r u living or r u drawing
or are u playing the fuk ing videojames

You do draw on a Monday, right anon?

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>>81479023
I draw when I'm at work and I don't work mondays, I really should draw on my days off but i have downs.

>>81479078
She looks so sad, I'm sorry I have not talked to you in so long

fuck me, i cant use vectors to digitalize a drawing man.
i dont know how young me used this shit, this is so fucking bad. i miss illustrator.
just give me my tablet bakc

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God they're so pretty

>>81468650
Thank you for the info at any rate, anon. Last thread died before I could reply
I've done more studying and have realized you're totally right; when pressed flat to the side of the hand, the thumb should be about right in the middle of the proximal phalange of the index finger (that's apparently the part between the base of the finger and the middle of it.) I was drawing thumbs as being able to reach the bottom of the proximal phalange, rather than the middle. Some study has also reminded me that most of the bones of the fingers are at the top of the finger, with muscle and fat tissue on the underside; if you put your hand palm-down on a table and touch the back of your fingers, you'll feel a layer of skin and then bone, but if you put your hand palm-up and touch your finger, you'll feel a lot more tissue before you start pushing into the bone. This means there should be folds around the joints of the finger even if they are fully extended.

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>>81482240
>I was drawing thumbs as being able to reach the bottom of the proximal phalange, rather than the middle.
Well, you're not entirely incorrect with that assessment. The thumb's a tricky little fucker that has some wiggle room on that matter based on how you position the knuckle, which unlike the knuckles of the rest of the fingers, has a lot of mobility. Laying flat against a table, the knuckle's movement restricted, it does only reach the bottom of the phalange joint. Take it off the table, and you can slide the knuckle under your palm, which can even bring the tip past the phalange joint. I wonder if any trickster gods of old pantheons have an established symbolic association with thumbs, because goddamn, this little motherfucker growing out of your palm could give Loki a run for his money when it comes to sneaky shit.

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I really have to get back on purposely learning, with actual books.
i really have trouble starting sketches, is Bridgman a good entry to gesture drawing?

>>81483059
Bridgeman's really good if you - like me - prefer sharp angles and stony shapes when drawing. If you find it easier to draw a stone pillar than a ceramic bathtub, you'll enjoy Bridgman. But try multiple different ways, too.

>>81482638
This is some seriously good advice. Where is it from?