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What kind of job/business lets you travel the world? I have a remote job, but I can't travel outside the country, pretty bored and sick of being glued to my email and Teams all day, every day
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>>2859120
Seasonal work, maybe. Best example is working in Alaska for the summer season in fish processing. So long as you don't drink than you'll have very low expenses while working because most places have you live on-site and feed you while you work. Be mindful that its very much a shitty job with long hours, but its the type of work that lets you save up a bunch of money.
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>>2859120
Online freelance work. I've done copywriting while travelling and working for years, but I can't recommend trying to get started now. AI is killing it, and until society catches on that it can't actually write, this marketplace is fucked.
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>>2859120
>but I can't travel outside the country
Why not? How would they know?
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>>2859120
i work in IT and i have worked all around the world. first for a medium sized company, then a big company, then my own company. but what i do is a bit niche.
the most common type of job that requires frequent international travel would be sales and marketing. in all the companies i have worked for, those are the people who tend to travel most. to visit customers, to exhibit at expos, etc
when i say "sales" i mean big ticket items. you have to find the right company to work for, one with international customers. and of course you need experience so you will probably have to start at the bottom. what's it called in video games where you have to start by hacking mudcrabs or whatever to level up a few times? the equivalent of that. also remember that people that work in sales are basically evil
here, i will give you a clue. one of the companies i worked for was a regular exhibitor at the mobile world conference in barcelona. every year the company would send a contingent of people from the sales department supposedly to promote the company but in reality it is basically a huge party for everyone involved. here is a list of exhibitors: https://www.mwcbarcelona.com/exhibitors start by going to each company's website and looking at their careers pages. or, go to your favourite jobs website and search with "international travel" as the keywords. get applying.
you probably won't do any of that because this is just your disgruntled fantasy and you'll probably just spend the rest of your life posting little cartoons on here and saying how shit your life is
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>>2859197
because random anons are not smarter than corporate IT departments
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>>2859120
I lurk the r/digitalnomad subreddit sometimes and as far as I can tell your best bets are either:
>Get a cushy remote tech job
>Digital marketing (except you should've started 10-20 years ago)
>Become a scam artist and start selling online "business" courses
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>>2859212
being a digital nomad and having a job that involves travel are not really the same thing
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>>2859212
Look into ESL teaching
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>>2859203
>spend the rest of your life posting little cartoons on here and saying how shit your life is
*Ahem*.... Well. Umm... Hrmm.
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>>2859197
Because anywhere you take your laptop is connected to the internet and the moment that happens they know where you are.

Some claim to be able to hide this with an at home vpn setup but the logistics of having such a setup is not possible for some of us.
I've seen other approaches anons have posted but I don't know enough to really understand and I wouldn't likely be able to pull it off anyway.

Some companies really let you go wherever whenever you want though as long as you're mindful of the tax implications but those positions are often very competitive and gatekept.
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>>2859120
Government contractor with security clearance. Work somewhere remote and get paid. Work 1 year on 6 months off. Or something like that. If you fly it's can be 2 months on 1 month off.
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>>2859204
debatable depending on who they have in their IT department
>>2859222
>Some claim to be able to hide this with an at home vpn setup but the logistics of having such a setup is not possible for some of us.
>download VPN
>set it to start when you turn on your PC
how is this hard?
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>>2859216
Meant for >>2859214
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>>2859185
Thoughts on using AI for online money? I know one guy running AI fake girl socials while having enough money to jump from country to country but idk if it would mentally fuck me up getting involved that kind of thing. It seems where the money is right now though.
>>2859212
I've got a cushy remote tech job, but I'm pretty sure it's not allowed to work outside of my specified state. I don't know anyone that openly travels. Everyone just lives at the same location or I guess if they go anywhere it's secret.
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>>2859225
yeah, I'm debating the residential VPN route. Also debating just getting a second remote job to diversify my income. It would be double the work, but could make things easier for paying for travel. Good idea or not worth it? I've gotten some offers. I have around a decade of tech experience and a good degree. That or some digital marketing thing.
>>2859223
I worked as a gov contractor for a few years and every time they sent me to the middle of nowhere for projects at military bases. Not sure if that was just me, but it seems like a common thing. Most don't get to visit any cool places.
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>>2859120
I hear wojak pays well these days anon
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>I work remote but can’t work outside the country

Stop being a fag and get a VPN
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>>2859225
>>2859258
any competent IT department will not be fooled by you using a VPN. if they don't raise it, it is because they don't care, not because they don't know.
also, if you use any piece of hardware provided by the company, assume that they will always know where you are.
the "big company" i mentioned in >>2859203 was HP. naturally, for work, i used a laptop that they provided. HP have their own heavily customised, locked down version of Windows on every employee laptop.
in that kind of situation, just assume that you have no privacy while you are using the laptop. fortunately, i was doing a job that required me to travel frequently anyway, so at least that part of it didn't cause any issues.
if you are interested in travelling for work, getting that kind of job is a much better solution than trying to find some furtive way of bypassing the controls the company have put in place. if your current job restricts your location, get a different job.
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>>2859265
>any competent IT department will not be fooled by you using a VPN
keyword competent. I'd say if OP works for a larger company he probably cannot get away with it. I have a friend that works at a company where I think the IT department is maybe one or two boomers. they had a woman on staff who said she needed to work from home because of her kids. she ended up working from home in Russia and she was only caught because she was posting pictures of herself there on social media and they ended up firing her. bitch didn't even need a VPN because their IT department was retarded.
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>>2859120
Funny how the pussies who choose the lowest effort desk jobs are always the ones crying and moaning about how soul sucking their work is, or else coping with wasteful spending in pursuit of a good time. Those of us who do real man's work don't quail at the prospect of quitting our jobs and setting off around the world, because our work makes us strong and confident and mentally capable of powering through difficulty.
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>>2859185
What is copyrighting? Is it like getting paid to shit-post?
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>>2859216
I looked into it briefly and a lot of places require a degree to become an actual english teacher in the country. Are you talking about doing like 1 on 1 tutoring or teaching it online? The notion of being on some retarded zoom call emoting for third worlders is nauseating. I'd probably be fine with 1 on 1 tutoring with people though.
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>>2859288
>who do real man's work
you sound like that retard in the india thread talking ahout how great manual labour and poverty is
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>>2859238
If you're okay with scamming then you can use AI for making money online, yeah. It's not good work, it hurts innocent idiots, and you'll be competing with other, harder-working, greasy dudes, but it can be done a little. Just be aware that more and more people are cracking down on it and are aware of when AI is being used, so you can spend more time applying for work, working a little, then getting booted for using AI than you do actually making money.

>>2859486
Literally writing copy. What you have to write exactly depends on your clients and who you work for. In my case, it's a huge range of different things. I've written guides on how to make Christmas decorations, how to play blackjack, changes to Irish insurance law, writing game articles for big companies (I've done a bunch for the RAID Shadow Legends people), travel guides, and a lot more.
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>>2859288
Oh they are all just too dumb and useless to do anything but grunt work, and y'know retards are happy.
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I'm thinking of doing the DN thing, but I'm also planning on starting an online masters program. If I were renting right now I'd still do it, but as I'm living with my parents for $0 a month I don't know if it's even worth the cost.

>>2859197
My boss said to just ask if I have to log in from another country, but I dunno. Would they be fine with digital nomad shit? Or would they say something after a few months? Probably no more than 3 months at a time, though. I've traveled within the country but only for a week or so.

I do have a home server and I could set up a wireguard tunnel, but that's also somewhat risky as I do have meetings to attend.

>>2859265
The only thing I can think of that would fuck you with a proper setup (wireguard on a travel router, ethernet only, full tunne, use the travel router even at homel) is wifi scanning. Maybe if you change your local clock, or your latency is significantly different?
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>>2859515
>If you're okay with scamming
do you have any better ideas? At the end of the day it's a new form of digital marketing I guess. These innocent idiots are degenerates who would spend this money anyway on onlyfans. Seems like the most likely way I can just fuck off from my job within a year and live where I want all year. I could also diversify to more vanilla things like using AI to create UCG ads for ecom businesses.
>you'll be competing with other, harder-working, greasy dudes
yeah, that's the only issue. People making money online are probably working a lot more than I do in a salaried tech job for less money. The only benefit is just having no timezone issues and no income limit.
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>>2859120
If you have to ask, you missed the pipeline
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it's amazing how these threads always devolve into "how can i deceive my current employers" and "what shitty peasant jobs or tawdry shit can i do to make some quick cash" rather than actually talking about actual jobs that involve travel. 4chan is always 4chan i suppose.
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>>2859725
It still somehow manages to be more informative than reddit threads on these topics which are 99% AI bots advertising nonsensical schemes and scams. Or better yet "just get this 5 year degree and 15 years of experience then you can do what I do". It's not like 4chan is a navigable wealth of information, it's an imageboard people and these days mostly fake bots post on to drive engagement. There could have been threads with the exact information you want hundreds of times over the last decade, but it's all ephemeral so how would you ever know.
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>>2859725
There aren't that many options. They've already been brought up, as they are in every thread.
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>>2859223
You're shitting and pissing and crying because those are too hard for you and you want a magical job with no responsibility no barrier to entry and high pay. It doesn't exist dumbass.
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>>2859785
what on earth are you even on about?
do you act this unpleasant in real life?
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Work for the countries park service and travel to those locations for the job. You might need an advanced degree to be a tour guide or something but people come from all over to work at our former presidents house. Here in the USA theres a hiring freeze rn so it might not be a permanent job but...
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>>2859737
>it's an imageboard people and these days mostly fake bots post on to drive engagement
AI killed the internet for me
I have zero way to prove my messages are being seen by anyone apart from the government
I have zero way to prove anyone in this thread is real
Might as well sit in an empty room and talk to myself all day
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>>2859798
People talk about what they want to talk about. Nobody is going to spoonfeed you information that you can google. Grow the fuck up.
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>>2859238
> Thoughts on using AI for online money? I know one guy running AI fake girl socials while having enough money to jump from country to country but idk if it would mentally fuck me up getting involved that kind of thing. It seems where the money is right now though.

How does he get money that way? Extracting money from simps? How does he do it
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>>2859120
Hustle and grind living like you're poor for only a few years to build up a big enough pool of cash where you can play the stocks/commodities/crypto markets. If you're smart you can leverage just a few hundred thousand to never really need to work again.
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>>2864182
Sounds good in theory but in reality all it takes is one black swan to fuck the whole plan. It literally happened to me with Trump going into office last year.
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>>2864190
>all it takes is one black swan to fuck the whole plan
diversity is your friend anon. never put all the proverbial eggs in one basket.
also, think long term
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>>2864182
>gamble 3 years of labor while deluding yourself into thinking it's strategy
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>>2864196
Assuming you have 300k, how would you go about it then? I'm guessing 1/3 to each sector? Used to have this much and now back to building it up with a job. Not sure how one could live off it without eating up the principal or taking up gambles.
I mean, if you're investing in more than index funds, it's pretty much gambling.
Currently mostly in index funds, a big chunk in gold/silver/copper mining stocks, some physical gold/silver and waiting to buy back in btc, which I'll prob buy an entire one.
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>>2864200
I'm talking about dividend funds and other real investments, not daytrading.

As it stands now even though I started late and didn't do things optimally, I make nearly $20k/year from just dividend payouts and revenues from keeping a bit of cash when I sell off growth stocks to buy new growth stocks. An anon who starts 15 years earlier than me and gets $200k as capital in ~5 years of scraping by could easily be doing 3 or 4 times what I make from the same investments.

If your money isn't growing in investments, it's shrinking from inflation. You have to it so why not optimize it then luxuriate in the payoff when you're 35 instead of 60
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>>2859288
You guys vote based on which candidates will give you the most handouts. You're not tough. You're subsidized.
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>>2864182
This is what (((they))) want you to do. Dump all of your hard-earned money into their speculative schemes, trusting their premise that the tide will rise forever and continue lifting everybody's boat. Fuck that. I will spend my money on tangible goods and services, not on a fucking promise of more money. And the way I live, it only takes 20 minutes to file my taxes.
>>2865484
>getting paid for your hard work is a handout!
>only money made from money is properly earned!
(((Capitalist))) pig
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>>2859120
I also have a based remote job. And they don't know I've been traveling the world for the past 4 years.

My IT department doesn't know or doesn't care that I'm working outside the country (we already have international subsidiaries so idk if it really sets off any alarms)

But that being said this is what claude suggested and I think it's a foolproof solution because the travel router you will connect to will have the home country's IP and it's impossible for the laptop/VPN to figure out what's going on since it's not happening at the laptop level:

Portable travel router with VPN
Devices like the GL.iNet travel routers can run a VPN client (WireGuard or OpenVPN) at the router level. You connect your laptop to the router's Wi-Fi, and all traffic exits through your home country's server. Your laptop sees a normal network connection, making the company VPN less likely to have stacking issues since the VPN is handled at a layer below your OS.
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>>2859120
traveling won't make you happy faggit, you just waste money, smell the sea, get buried in sand, makes you want to choke on it and die, sun makes eye burn, wondering if what I really want is something fresh in the brain then why am I here?
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If you're alright with your supervisor/boss, just ask if you can work in the same time zone, but the state above or below and then, take it farther from there.

If your company has an employee phone, there's a good chance you'll get found out that way.


>>2859222

Read through your network access/employment contract, understand what hardware you need, and probe if your company has a decent IT team

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>>2859238
>Installing unauthorized software on corporate environment


>>2865568
Pray your network and power at home is solid.
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>>2865623
>Pray your network and power at home is solid.

I don't think you understand. The travel router is a small router you bring WITH you abroad. Fits in your pocket. Instead of connecting your laptop to WiFi/cellular data directly the travel router connects to it, and then via a VPN changes the router's IP address to the home country you want it to be, and then you connect to the router with your laptop
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>>2859288
I've worked both manual and office jobs in my life, and there is something particularly soul sucking about about having to deal with office BS and staring at numbers on a screen the whole day. Although OP should stop being a little bitch and be grateful for his job that will probably not exist in a couple of years
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>>2864202
Just put it on black and double it.
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>>2859120
Biz dev will have you going to conferences and expos sporadically. But you gotta socialize a lot with bizfolks who are usually pretty boring, but finding the fun ones can be a hoot, lemme tell ya
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>>2859223
Government contractors are not supposed to work abroad unless it’s included in the contract. It’s literally a violation of the contract and is a requirement for most contractors to have a contract at all. If they find out, you’re fucked.

>>2859120
Self-employed people, non-government contractors, people who work at hip young tech companies, niche professionals (I know an engineer who goes to Japan for 3 months of chis choosing every year for “professional development” because it’s relevant to his industry), certain business owners (also know a guy who owns a publishing company that spends time in Japan to meet with manga artists
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>>2866325
None of what you said means anything. You could've just said "guys who get money given to them" and it would be the same post.
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>>2859120
I work at university where we accumulate two types of PTO hours weekly. One personal and the other for mental clarity. I don't ever get sick and I just save the hours to travel. Also whenever I have a 3 day weekend (presidents day, etc.) I just visit other states.
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>>2865645
Help me out.
Where will the travel router be connecting to?

Back to your home?
Public VPN provider? VPS?
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>>2866534
That's for you to configure, wherever you want.
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>>2866699
Meh.

Context:
Even if you live in the US, you might get freaky weather that will mess up your power, and thus, your setup.

Will you company care?
Probably not, but >2865645 certainly can't read or likely doesn't a grasp on explaining things.
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>>2859120
My airline job gives me 90% off on all one world flights standby
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>>2866747
And the only catch is that you have to drive?

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