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/rcg/ - /tpg/ - Roller Coaster General | Theme Park General 02/10/26(Tue)14:03:40 No.2862057
/rcg/ - /tpg/ - Roller Coaster General | Theme Park General 02/10/26(Tue)14:03:40 No.2862057
/rcg/ - /tpg/ - Roller Coaster General | Theme Park General Anonymous 02/10/26(Tue)14:03:40 No.2862057 [Reply]▶
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>Last Thread: >>2856047
Ayy lmao edition
>What is this thread? Why are there two generals?
/rcg/ was initially created as a way for the roller coaster enthusiasts on here to discuss all things roller coasters and theme parks. While roller coasters are the main focus of these threads (and the title of the general) there is also discussion on other theme parks, their rides, as well as the parks themselves and trip planning too. That's where /tpg/ comes in.
>Can I talk about Disney/Universal parks in this thread?
Absolutely! Disney/Universal discussion of all sorts including rides/resorts/dining/trip planning is OK.
Park Crowd Tracker:
>https://queue-times.com/en-US/parks
Current and historical wait times tracker:
>https://www.thrill-data.com/
Roller Coaster Database:
>https://rcdb.com/
Amusement Park News Sites:
>https://www.themeparkinsider.com/
>https://www.screamscape.com/
>https://www.coaster101.com/
Disney Park News:
>https://www.wdwnt.com/
>https://www.wdwmagic.com/
>https://www.allears.net
>https://www.mousesteps.com
Universal Park News:
>https://www.insideuniversal.net
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>inb4 thoosie-anon complains that no one will do research on irrelevant regional coaster parks for him
>inb4 liberals-anon goes on a schizophrenic rant about imaginary chinese muslim infiltrators
>inb4 rosalina-anon subtly suggests that the new film presents an opportunity for an indoor mack spinner
>inb4 other thoosie-anon suggests that having an interest in any ride with a story makes you irredeemably a morbidly obese childless disney adult
>inb4 i write up a blogpost about the IP value of pokemon no one cares about
>inb4 we scare away the youtuber that lurks here
Let's get this shit out of the way early. What else am I missing?
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>>2862064
>>inb4 we scare away the youtuber that lurks here
platt isnt goin no where hes our guy
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>>2862064
Funny thing about liberals-anon is that he has all the shitty qualities of a stereotypical leftist despite claiming to hate those fuckers.
He attacks people for the slightest thing, tells people to "grow up" when he himself is the biggest manchild of them all, claims he's always right and that his opinions are fact, and also gets defensive when someone insults him -- because he thinks he should be the one insulting others.
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>>2862097
>and bully everyone and everything
Pajeet hands typed this post.
1) Please work on your grammar
2) Not everyone you hate is a liberal, just like how not everyone leftists (whom you have more in common with than you think) hate is Hitler
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Just posting to say I like visiting regional parks and don't get the excessive hate.
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>>2862057
I'm feeling nostalgic.
https://youtu.be/vBIugupJl0M?si=mgH68qX7ECapMqjn
https://youtu.be/GGqxgnis1f8?si=o3iXUjGUNeDgDbLU
https://youtu.be/PYhXa9FShoc?si=SDAN25amMxaHOkcr
https://youtu.be/PYhXa9FShoc?si=4dWLqjgEyru-BfaN
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>>2862100
A liberal came here and trolled the living daylights out of this place. That's who I'm talking about. Whether he got us to fight or whatever that doesn't take away what was done. Or if it was you pretending that you're some mild normie now.
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Visited Fuji-Q in January and honestly was a bit disappointed. Rides were not as fun as I thought they'd be, actually much more violent than expected. I never get dizzy on coasters but my head hurt so much after riding the 3 big ones.
Other than that, 10/10 location. Zokkon was fun too.
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Threadly list of Disney/Universal announcements and dates for your convenience:
Florida:
>Monsters Inc. at Studios opens 2027?
>Dinoland EXTINCT
>'Tropical Americas' replace it in 2027
>Rafiki's Planet Watch closing Feb 23 partially rethemed to Bluey by summer
>Front Tire Land replaces Tom Sawyer Island circa 2028
>Liberty Belle Steamship future unknown, intact as of late Nov 2025
>Big Thunder Mountain (Florida) refurb finishes by 'Spring' 2026 w/ Rainbow Caverns
>New Frozen ride animatronics Feb 12
>Walt Disney robot coming to Carousel of Progress
>Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin reopens Spring 2026 WITH MOAR SCREENS
>Rock N' Rollercoaster Aerosmith version final day is March 1
>Muppets retheme by Summer 2026
>>>/tg/ Crossover:
>Earn Lorcana Promo cards at Epcot thru Feb 23.
>Volcano Bay closed Oct 26, 2026 thru Mar 24, 2027
>Lost Continent demolition underway
>Replacement for Poseidon's Fury to be built by Intamin
>Jurassic Park River Adventure closed thru Nov 19 2026
>RRR Replacement early 2027?
California:
>Fast and Furious Hollywood coaster "Summer 2026"
>Mr. Lincoln shows when Walt is uncooperative. True rotation soon?
>Mike & Sully closes 2026, becoming Avatar ride
>OT characters in Cali Galaxy's Edge
Both:
>Soarin' Over 'Murica by Memorial Day
>Millenium Falcon: Smuggler's Run rethemed to Mandalorian May 22, 2026
Europe:
>Frozen land and Rapunzel teacups, opens in Paris March 29, 2026
>Lion King Splash Mountain water ride at Paris Studio park, late 2027 at the earliest
>New scenes in Rivers of the Far West in 2026
>Universal UK set for 2031
>Disney-Adjacent Bluey Roller Coaster at Alton Towers Spring 2026
Asia:
>Multi-launch Spider-man coaster at Shanghai DL
>Spider-Man Drop Tower at Hong Kong DL, Doc Ock
>Wreck-It-Ralph omnirover shooter replaces Buzz Lightyear in Tokyo by April 2026
>Tokyo Disneyland Space Mountain currently closed until 2027 for ground-up rebuild
>Tokyo maybe razing Adventureland 2026 or later?
Did I miss anything?
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>>2862171
When I went last spring the land was split in two by work walls so the main area of the land had nothing besides the Baymax flat that gets huge waits. Everything worthwhile (Star Tours/Monsters/the good pizza restaurant) you had to take a side path to get to. Reminded me a bit of Lost Continent
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>>2862160
Thank you for your effort. Please keep intentionally excluding all coaster parks so this faggot >>2862161 cries himself to sleep at night.
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>>2862179
soulless
Maybe they should have considered why their food options were shit enough that an already huge mcdonalds was overfilling...
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>>2862180
Blame starbucks. Every fast food place wants to have the aesthetics of starbucks now and that design influence somehow leaked into parks and downtown disney areas. It's also ruining in person retail and gift shops.
What happens when shareholders get to mandate designs instead of actual artists. Rich people have no taste
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>>2862160
>look at all these good rides weve removed and are replacing with crap
wow just look at this dogshit list. hilarious disney are so badly run they cant even say when rides (on an 18 month+ refurb) will reopen lmao. Monsters/Tropical America isnt opening next year based on their Thunder Mountain progress. Maybe 2028
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No AREA15 for Orlando. People need their goyslop instead.
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>>2862179
One of the saddest things about our culture was the phasing out of indoor playgrounds. Moms used to not have to cook or clean. They went to McDonald's and the kids got fed, threw away their trash and ran and ran until Mom went home and put them to bedtime.
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>>2862216
>They loved talking about their stupid little coasters, and Cedar Park before we took over.
This general was dogshit before we took over. We're the European settlers building out the new world and they're the angry natives demanding we respect their sacred mountain they were too poor to turn cash-flow positive.
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>>2862161
here's your tormenta construction update :)
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>>2862163
Efteling has a kiddy drop tower ride opening this summer, after that the only stuff they have in the pipeline is adding a new fairy tale to the forest, which is not a real "ride".
There are tons of plans to expand the footprint of the park and build outside the current perimeters, but getting the approval of the surrounding towns and shit is a very very slow process going on for years now, considering the surrounding nature is largely protected and important for the region. One of the plans was a big circus-themed launch coaster, but that's been scrapped completely and they're probably not doing anything substantial until like 2027 or 2028
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>>2862229
>six flag's response to going bankrupt is the same thing that drove them to bankruptcy in the first place
Is it over for the US coaster scene? The yuros are building circles around us.
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>>2862286
Yeah but what else do we even have to look forward to? Fast and Furious doesn't looking like it's going to be anything too interesting. Mack and Vekoma have all kinds of new stuff we don't have much of here. Someone needs to buy it.
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>>2862299
>Fast & Furious
got to say its a big deal for Universal Hollywood to finally get an outdoor coaster but it looks incredibly boring how slow it goes. Im sure the cope will be "its still testing, it will go faster" but we all know thats bollocks.
Also that Universal Florida is building ANOTHER launch coaster tells me theyre out of ideas. They need more rides like Monsters/Forbidden Journey that will take thousands of people an hour and be great. All the IPs they control and they pick Fast & Furious too...
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>>2862215
Concept art shows that the Muppet Theatre, Fountain, and Pizzarizzo will be essentially unchanged except for themeing.
The Theatre will presumably get a new show (still unclear if they'd port the Laugh Floor and replace it in Tomorrowland or do something different and actually scifi).
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>>2862182
The real money in franchising was always real estate. The desoulification wasn't about copying a certain aesthetic like Starbucks but to make each facility as easy to resell so it can be turned into something else as possible.
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>>2862057
You can get wait times for Disney but Google blocks Universal. Why?
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>>2862310
>Also that Universal Florida is building ANOTHER launch coaster tells me theyre out of ideas
What exactly do you mean by this? Launches have much more variety than lift hill coasters, no? Islands of Adventure alone has three very different launched coasters in Hulk, Velocicoaster and Hagrid’s.
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universal orlando is building a Boring Company tunnel between citywalk and epic universe
what on earth are they doing that for? the busses work just fine
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2026/02/11/elon-musks-tunneling-compan y-tapped-to-link-universal-parks/
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>>2862582
Until America dramatically changes its demographics or its approach to law enforcement and puts an armed soldier on every form of public transportation, mass transit in America is a fucking pipe dream
Also that's a really dumb comparison because America is networked through roads as it was created after the horse drawn carriage and in unison with the automobile. America is a road country. It has its downsides, but you also dont have to listen to puerto rican rap blasted off a bluetooth speaker and break up a knife fight between "teens"
>>2862580
No speed limit + direct access.
Personally I think the long term plan is to put a second city-walk type venue over by epic and transform the parking lot over there into a parking garage to save space. No one likes big ass parking lots anyways cause it just translates into a long walk back to your car after already walking all day.
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>>2862580
People fundamentally do not understand hyper loops. According to Elon/Boring, they can be anything you want them to be. I'm sure Universal's plan is to turn them into custom underground busses that don't have to deal with traffic and can get to and from the parks in just a minute or two. Guests won't be riding around in Tesla's they'll be in mini busses similar to pic related (Elon has also said trains are possible). The technology is still extremely new/advanced and I'm not saying it'll work perfectly, but it's a neat idea and if it does work it'll be a MAJOR time saver when getting around the parks. They could also theme it and would have complete control over everything you see compared to the traffic nightmare that you experience now.
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>>2862633
I'm unimpressed by them.
I don't think this is going to be free or even cheap for users. That's what the buses are for. This is an upcharge attraction to get between the parks that bypasses traffic above.
>Elon has also said trains are possible
World's tiniest trains
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>>2862590
Honestly Deportations are the key. And I think holding non-white groups accountable when they commit crimes. Catch and release DEI Judges is not working.
Also cap immigration. Less than 1%.
And sell Puerto Rico. And send them back.
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>>2862635
The whole point of Boring tunnels is that they're incredibly cheap to build relatively speaking. I also doubt Universal would charge for it when it looks like they want this to be their main transportation to/from Epic. Boring still has a lot of kinks to work out but the idea looks really cool and it makes a ton of sense for a place like Universal. I don't know why you're being so gay about it.
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Wouldnt an elevated highway exclusive to Universal busses solve the same issue with dramatically lower costs?
>already have the vehicles
>same benefits as the tunnel (no speed limit, direct access)
>dont have to maintain a tunnel in a state that routinely goes underwater
>florida has tons of elevated highways, it's not uncommon
Unless the issue would be convincing the state of florida to license all that out. Not sure how licensing tunnels works. They'd be going under private property.
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>>2862767
Not the liberals guy but I remember hearing bad things about the bus frequencies last year, maybe they've fixed that since then.
I only did Epic during my visit in September and the Stella Nova buses weren't very frequent, but there's also a walking path so I assumed they weren't a big priority.
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Here's your piston peak ride system.
Kuka-style arm pushing a ride vehicle over a simulated off road track.
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>>2862780
Very similar to Minecart Madness with a vertical track holding and powering the system.
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>>2862735
>I don't know why you're being so gay about it.
Because the entire idea is gay and I'm gay, bitch
>>2862749
>Wouldnt an elevated highway exclusive to Universal busses solve the same issue with dramatically lower costs?
Still really expensive, although still less expensive than a tunnel that can run the same buses.
>dont have to maintain a tunnel in a state that routinely goes underwater
Tunneling underwater and under the water table isn't new or a big deal
>Not sure how licensing tunnels works. They'd be going under private property.
Easements
>>2862772
Yeah a bridge would shit up the splendor of the area pic rel
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>>2862780
Holy shit It's gonna suck.
It kind of works for DK because of the fake track as a visual aid and the arm being able to mostly hide, at least to the riders.
But an arm alongside a car in a natural outdoor area?
DOA
If I were CEO I'd start rebuilding Discovery Island into Tom Sawyer Island, caves and all, and have the Liberty Belle run a loop from Wilderness Lodge, the new shitty DVC resort next to Tri Circle D, Fort Wilderness, and the Contemporary.
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>>2862782
Can't see this working as presented. Two big problems:
Speed. It's not going to be able to go faster than a light jog
Safety. What happens if the code/electronics go haywire and it slams the car into the ground? Even if you assume they use motors that can only go downwards using gravity, you've the problem of pushing the car outwards/inwards at the wrong time.
Kuka Arms have the failsafe of not being able to touch and scenery with its range of motion, this is designed to interact with the scenery.
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>>2862788
The arms aren't alongside the car, they're behind it pushing it. The mounting and control point is at the rear of the vehicle. Presumable you'd only be able to see it if you craned your neck all the way around.
My question is how fast can this system go? Will there be a straight-away boost like Test Track or will this be more of like an outdoor dark ride? Concept art shows dust coming off the tires and a racing aspect with another vehicle. If the mounted arms are powering this that means two distinct tracks with arms on either side.
>>2862790
Sure but the timing fits this being the attraction. What else would this be used for? Anything else in the pipeline you think is going off-road? Indy is the only other one that makes sense but we know it's the Dinosaur vehicles.
>>2862791
It's not a kuka-arm. I said kuka-style cause it's mounted on an arm. Forget I said kuka
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If there's two vehicles side by side, and the arm is the ride system, that means two entirely separate tracks.
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>>2862792
It's not Kuka Arms but you have to look to those to understand the failsafes. You couldn't get slammed into scenery in Harry Potter if the arms tried. That's the final safety measure.
In this ride system, there is no plausible failsafe because it can't be isolated from the scenery, you can't stop it getting hit by cosmic rays and potentially deciding it needs to slam the car down at max strength or pushing it sideways into a fake rock. It needs to be impossible for this to happen.
For another comparison, Test Track has independently controlled cars, that means a car could accelerate out of control and it's physically possible for them to crash into another. To protect against this it's got something like 4 levels of redundancy which all have emergency halts and all of which aim to stop the cars before they get anywhere near each other.
What protection could they have in a ride system where a blip lasting a second could injure a rider?
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>Merlin change their mind and will allow people with anxiety, ADHD or autism to skip the queue
GREAT!
Just when I thought Alton Towers will finally have improved queueing they change their minds because the loud entitled ADHD riddled babies cried about cancelling a £200 annual pass. Pathetic. They really should make all queues wheelchair accessible completely and get rid of the access queues altogether
Get in the queue like everyone else. People with real issues of autism/ADHD will mask it and dont want the attention.
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>>2862803
Pretty sure the extremely well paid team of professional engineers is aware of the design hurdles inherent with the system and have been figuring it out. They arent gonna build a 200 million dollar ride, open it, and watch as the arm crushes a car full of toddlers because of things a 4chan anon immediately assumed.
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They cut the amount of Mardi Gras floats in half so I did not leave the park looking like a pimped out Mr T. They also replaced the black woman with DDDs with a gay black guy on stilts.
4/10, the beignet was banging
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>>2862782
Here's another image of the same patent, this one screams Star Was and very well could be what's being rumored for DLP. Could be both, some of Disney's recent expansions use existing ride systems
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>>2862160
>Mr. Lincoln shows when Walt is uncooperative. True rotation soon?
Feb 13th according to app showtimes
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>>2862834
Lmao. Unless good people take advantage of this shitty system nothing will change. It’ll just be an endless stream of poojeets, forever
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>>2862870
I did have in an out recently for the first time ever bc I was in CA for a work conference. It was everything people said. If they opened in and out in Florida, it would be even more popular that Chik fil a. Floridians would go nuts for the food quality/ price, aesthetics, the paper hats, and the fact that all the employees are White
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>>2862848
They still list launched inverted coasters on the Intamin site, so presumably in the 25+ years since Volcano and the impulse coasters they've come up with revisions to the trains and track to ameliorate the problems the first ones had. But if you look at newer inverted launchers from other companies, I think they can offer parks more value.
Intamin coasters seem to have fallen out of favor in the US because of their cost (on par with B&M) and having to warehouse spare parts since the manufacturer doesn't. Vekoma coasters will be a little less expensive and they do warehouse their own parts.
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>>2862870
We don't dickride Elon itt
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>>2862632
Well I wouldn't know, I haven't studied the field. I'm assuming if Universal has said yes to their proposal then they have done their due diligence and it'll work out.
A lot of people really really really hate Elon Musk.
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>>2862943
Most tunnels go under the water table or intrude on underground springs. There are already many tunnels that go underwater and they've been around for decades. There are two underwater tunnels in Florida now, one under a river and the other under a bay.
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>>2862956
They have banking tunnels in downtown Jacksonville and they have to have pumps running constantly to stop water intrusion. Tunnels in Florida just don’t make sense for the same reason no homes have basements in Florida. It’s just fucking dumb
>dig 4 feet down, practically anywhere in Florida and water will come bubbling up
T. Digger
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>>2862511
I visited Stella Nova a few months ago, I thought it was pretty nice, basically on the same caliber as the Endless Summer hotels. Walking to Epic was really convenient, and the buses to City Walk weren't bad. The biggest downside was there is basically no way to get to anything outside of Universal by walking. The closest store is a Walgreens, and it's at least a half hour walk one way, and the sidewalks were still being built in some places. I get that it's intentional, but it's still frustrating.
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>>2862840
That one would work massively better as you could include failsafes in it (physical blocks to stop the arm going too far down).
Would be really neat if we'd see that for the Mandalorian coaster that's rumoured. Would need to be a 6-8 seater though to prevent it being another queue monster like Crush's Coaster
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>>2863029
Worth noting that these images are from one of the other bidders which didn't get chosen (Glydways)
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Coaster part of Nightflight expedition at Dollywood. Looks like it's going for a smaller drop but adds a little airtime bunnyhop after it.
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>>2863093
A lot of companies are going to be watching the Dollywood one closely. If it can show proven reliability and high capacity in a compact footprint it will be godly for all the parks that have lost their log flumes or rapids rides.
Would be perfect for either Thorpe Park or Alton Towers here.
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>>2863094
>Would be perfect for either Thorpe Park or Alton Towers here
Merlin wont build water rides in Britain. High running costs plus paying people to sit and do nothing. Fine for most companies but Merlin arent allowing any wasteful spending in their parks that actually make money.
Theres already rumours the rapids at Thorpe Park are going. They wont remove them at AT yet because there would be huge uproar
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>>2863202
The rapids going at Thorpe Park would be an utter disaster. The park already has nowhere near enough for families. It needs a family coaster and also a non-shit dark ride.
I get the impression that the Rocky Boat ride system has pretty low running costs, Dollywood's only has a fairly short water section by the looks of it
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>>2862057
Personally I think a guy who isn't Jewish (unless he's Messianic or a Stephen Miller type) is always going to be less liberal. I just heard that 200+ sponsors pulled out of Gay Days even though they had upwards of 30k faggits who were going to show up that day. Disney cancelled it as a result which Eisner would NaeVarR have done.
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>>2862590
Demographics actually has little to do with it. The biggest factors are climate and air conditioning. Even poor Americans can attain a car by and large, so the market for transit is limited to the few poors who cannot and extremely dense places. Extremely dense places are rare because of climate and air conditioning.
Before widespread air conditioning, the population centers in the US were in places with nice summers - the midwest, northeast, and California. This MLB map shows where the people and money were around the transition point. Air conditioning made possible a massive transition to the south. Midwest factories didn't just go overseas. They went to the sunbelt with its cheap land, non-unionized labor and suddenly acceptable climate. So you have a ton of southern cities exploding well into the car and suburb age and therefore built around cars. At the same time, you have a bunch of northern cities getting hollowed out - making transit less economical and less necessary in declining cities.
So the only extremely dense places left are the ones that were extremely dense before air conditioning and survived the transition to the south, New York and Chicago most notably, and those are where transit still works well.
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>>2863345
Ok Schizo-kun
Anyways, what is this thread's thoughts on Six Flags Qiddiya? It looks pretty impressive with all those record breaking rides, but I wonder how long it will last. They say it's gonna be a real tourist hot spot because of Dubai's location as a travel hub, but I feel like every time I see a video on one of these Arab theme parks they usually look near deserted. Are they even successful at all? Disney's jumping the gun too with building there but I doubt if it'll be the success they're expecting.
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>>2863361
Seems like yet another Arab park I'll likely never visit, FF seems to be highly ranked on some coaster sites but those opinions seem artificially paid for. That being said, Falcon's Flight is undeniably impressive and I haven't heard of any maintenance issues, so kudos to Intamin and whoever runs Qiddiya
>Disney
I mean the Arabs are paying for it in full (much like SFQ) so if it goes under it won't hurt their financials (at least directly)
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Since there's a lot of back and forth on it, here are my two cents on the whole Tesla tunnel thing.
Looking at all three of the proposals, it's clear that Universal wants autonomous vehicles that can go from point to point. My guess is that they want these to serve low-demand routes (like any of the Volcano Bay ones) without having to use full-size buses with paid drivers. I'm not even sure if the Epic hotels have direct buses to VB, I didn't see any at Stella Nova at least.
The Boring Company deal also isn't concrete, it's just to "start negotiations". I'm guessing they do one small study on how much the tunnels will cost and back out due to the expense, and the project gets watered down to robovans running on the existing busways. Maybe the busways get grade separated if we're lucky.
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>see post on X of people complaining the queue for the shuttle at Cabana Bay is 45 minutes
>its a saturday where the normal warm weather has returned
get up earlier or take the 20 minute walk to the parks.
Also on early ride time, would you go straight to hagrids in hope your only queue an hour or get a few rides on velocicoaster?
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>>2863390
I wouldn't count on that, it'll be a give-and-take. Of course it'll be the most modern park, which will probably give us some impressive stuff, but they might be going for completely different vibes from a typical castle park, I mean look at the cyber castle from the concept art. It's gonna be distinctly modern, which seems completely backwards to how castle parks usually operate on nostalgia. I could see that approach being divisive for people.
>>2863420
My general idea is "if there is a must-do ride that gets queues out the ass, rope-drop it". The Frozen ride at Tokyo DisneySea gets three-hour waits throughout the entire day, but when we went there last year we rope-dropped it and only had to wait 20 minutes. A one hour wait for Hagrid's is still better than the alternative, so I would go for that and knock it out first thing, then you don't have to worry about it anymore for the rest of the day.
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>>2863450
DisneySea is a unique park like Epcot or Epic Universe. This is the kind of thing that should be encouraged. Well done, innovative, different.
Recreating SeaWorld worked but recreating Disneyland? This is a park that requires American culture and care behind it. I was looking at the castle in HK. Its purely Disney but it has a unique look.
The biggest problem the Arabs will have is Islamic misogyny and xenophobia.
People want the white princess rides but they are loathed to give people what they want for some reason.
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>>2863450
One reason I think they can do it was when I saw how they treated Trump during his visit. They have their own culture yet went out of their way to demonstrate that they understand ours. Better than Any European country has. The Europeans want to send a message: you're in our land. The Arabs said : you can be yourself here.
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>>2863420
>Also on early ride time, would you go straight to hagrids in hope your only queue an hour or get a few rides on velocicoaster?
As an AP, we are allowed to wait inside of the park while they open it so I'm always one of the first 10 people on the ride. I walk on Hagrids then go hit up FJ and knock out all of harry potter in 5 minutes. Velocicoaster doesn't really get a line until official park opening
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I know it's difficult with the culture we're currently in, but please try to keep politics out of this general and keep all posts relevant to theme parks and rollercoasters as much as possible. If we become a nuisance for the janny this general will be deleted and then we're fucked.
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Anybody get a ride on the new coaster at Canada’s wonderland? I’ve heard great things about AlpenFury but wonder if it’s worth going all the way to Toronto to ride is. Also, since it’s Canada, will the park be completely poo’d? My wife legitimately is creeped out by them and will leave if there are too many
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>>2862057
Silver Dollar City looks pretty unique. The park is set in mountains and has a cooler climate. It looks like they integrated mountain culture into the rides and did a Frank Loyd Wright symbiosis with the land and man made coasters.
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>all the work on Universal UK this year is going to be exploratory stuff for roman ruins and drainage works
Dammit, at least with foundation works you get people spotting manufacturer trucks and guessing layouts from markers. There's going to be nothing to go on for ages
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>>2863547
I would fucking hate trying to build anything in the regulatory hellscape that is the UK. The entire country is like a HOA. You gotta go through several legal hoops before a shovel can touch earth.
This is a big reason why Florida gets all the cool shit. We make it super easy for businesses to build things here and really only get involved if you do something retarded like poison the aquifer
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>>2863555
You should read the planning docs. The biggest document by far is the one going "This is what we'll do for greater crested newts, this is what we'll do for jumping spiders, this is what we'll do for bats". A huge document just for all the various hyper specific regulations builders have to put up with.
I considered building my own house at one point. Reading how utterly insane it is to get Planning Planning permission made me scrap that idea.
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>>2863562
That's wild. I know the original Universal Great Britain they were planning in the 90s was canceled because of how much of a headache all of the licensing was. I assume Universal has hired some firm to take care of it all or some shit because it doesnt seem like it's become any easier to build there.
Them putting a 10 event yearly limit on fireworks is just peak UK overregulation. God forbid some aging British cunt hear a muffled boom from 4 miles away.
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>>2863567
I believe they were aiming to build it around the Dartmouth crossing south of London which is all bogland. Got scrapped when noises were made about the effect on the environment. It's not too far from where the it-was-never-a-serious-prospect London Resort was going to be built before the jumping spiders put the project out of its misery.
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>>2863571
This is the London Resort site.
Yes it is surrounded by industrial estates. Yes that "site of scientific interest" full of wildlife was itself a former industrial estate and it's all contaminated and polluted soil.
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>>2863142
Alone? Hmm. Downtown has some cool stores like Five & Dime. Branson Landing is next to it and is like the Island at Pigeon Forge and Broadway on the Beach at Myrtle Beach. Like one of those Disney Springs-like places. I think we went to a place with go karts and a large Ferris wheel and there are mountain coasters like the Branson Coaster. And there are shows but they’re pricey. Everybody likes Haygoods. We saw an illusionist named Reza that was a good show. SDC had a nice little water park. Table rock lake is nearby with a beach. And SDC is a really great park with an included cave tour
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>>2862276
What are you talking about? There are multiple US parks that have at least one coaster better than any coaster in Europe. Cedar Point, Islands of Adventure, Carowinds, Busch Gardens Tampa. And the one at Carowinds is made by boring & mid.
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>>2862813
Unreal. Having anxiety and ADHD means you need to stand in the fucking line like everybody else with ADHD and anxiety. These fucking zoomers need to be forced to live in the real world. I have always had anxiety. Stand in the fucking line you fucking babies. We need to stop enabling this
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>>2863592
I think it might be my favorite theme park. Lower production values from the Orlando mega theme parks but it makes up for it in soul. Only real negative is the semi confusing layout and they even make chalk drawings telling you which attraction is where because of it. I’ve been there 3 times and the first time I went I didn’t know about Outlaw Run and wasn’t as coaster obsessed and I missed it completely. Flooded Mine is a gem. Probably Fire in the Hole too but I haven’t done the new version. Grandfather’s mansion, don’t miss that. We missed that our first time too
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>>2862813
Based bongs. Let’s fucking go.
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Apparently Disney has decided it actually likes money and releasing low quality trash that gets mocked online isn't a viable economic strategy. More on this as it develops
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>>2863832
Worth noting that land clearing has expanded beyond the former river as well
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>>2863829
>The permanent closure of Thunderation is part of a $500 million, 10-year expansion plan for Silver Dollar City
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>>2863829
RIP Thunderation. Looks like one of the better mine trains
>>2863979
One of Intamin's weaknesses (and they're not the only ride manufacturer like this) is that they don't warehouse replacement parts. They offload that job to parks. When a park buys a ride from Intamin, they will provide a list of suggested spare parts to order that could cost an additional million dollars or more, on top of the ride cost. Many parks can't afford that so they go with a minimum spare parts plan. Works fine until the park needs a part that isn't in the inventory. If that happens, they'll have to start calling other parks with that ride to see if they have that part and if so, would they sell it.
If the part can't be found or another source is unwilling to sell, then the only option left is to order it from the manufacturer, who doesn't keep parts stocked. If the park is lucky, the subcontractor that makes that part might have it in stock. For more bespoke components, it will just have to be made, and the lead time could be weeks or months (and the cost goes up because the park has to pay for expedited production and shipping). Your $$$$ Intamin ride is now less useful than a paperweight.
>>2863982
Jaws wasn't that good. Anyone who didn't get to ride it isn't missing out on much. Rhino Rally with the detachable bridge, on the other hand...
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>>2864071
>Jaws wasn't that good. Anyone who didn't get to ride it isn't missing out on much
I'm sorry but this is a dogshit contrarian take. Rides like that were core to the identity of Universal Studios and as iconic to the park as Haunted Mansion is to Disney. A tour bus/boat full of people, screaming their lungs out as some catastrophe unfolds around the vehicle IS Universal. Having fire and animatronics attack the vehicle as power lines shot sparks everywhere felt more viscerally real than anything they've been able to do with the technology they've developed in the 30 years since. It's a fucking travesty that those rides were removed and what they replaced them with was 2 IP slop skippable rides, and the greatest indoor coaster of all time (which could have been put somewhere else). They only removed Jaws because they needed the space and HP is a merch juggernaut.
It's just crazy to me that the park aged in reverse. The rides they opened with looked more technologically impressive than the rides they have now and they were designed during the fucking Reagan administration
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>>2864090
I think that's your nostalgia blinding you. I went on the full Rhino Rally back in its prime and while the bridge sequence was very cool, the rest of the ride was Temu Kilimanjaro Safari mixed with Temu Jungle Cruise. It was just that one part that anyone ever talks about, but one cool element doesn't "Beat anything ever made by Universal or Disney when it comes to that category of actor led rides"
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>>2864094
>I'm sorry but this is a dogshit contrarian take.
You can see what's going to happen well before you arrive at it
Wow a splash of water
Wow a splash of water
Wow a splash of water
Wow some natural gas flames
Wow some sparks
Corny "captains"
Jaws looks just like what you'd imagine a theme park shark robot would look like
It might be fun the first time you ride it, but rerides are unnecessary. Really fun for children though.
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>>2864107
You thinking this is the byproduct of your small deeply cynical retarded brain. It wasn't a "splash of water", it was a 20ft animatronic shark being propelled through the water with the launch force of a fighter jet.
It's like going up to the great pyramids and saying "What's the big deal? It's just a pile of rocks"
The issue here is your dumb attitude, not the ride.
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>>2864120
Sorry for correctly pointing out that you are dumb and retarded and bad opinions. I can picture you on the jaws boat wearing your black hoodie your mom bought you from hot topic that says "You hate me because I'm different. I hate you because you're all the same" with your arms folded doing everything within your power to not have a good time. Your mom is worried about you. She doesn't see the trajectory you're on turning around anytime soon. A lip ring isn't a personality.
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>>2864097
> Kilimanjaro Safari
A toned down, generic version with barely any animals. No edgy humor and no sense of adventure
> Jungle Cruise
Same thing, except zero animals what so ever, and even more boring.
Rhino Rally was fun for EVERYONE, those other two were fun for anyone under the age of 6. Which is fair, kids need safe, non-threatening, boring kiddie rides, but they can’t even be put in the same category
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>>2864121
Not reading all of that but pic rel is (You)
>>2864133
>Which is fair, kids need safe, non-threatening, boring kiddie rides, but they can’t even be put in the same category
I agree. Adults basedfacing over Jungle Cruise and Jaws (and similar rides) leaves normal people thinking that they must be simple, but at least they're harmless.
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>>2864127
Removing the phrase from that sign isn't that big of an indicator (I think they previously used "thanks for dropping in" on that sign before) but the actually worrying part is that the ride is going sponsorless. Tokyo uses a fuck ton of sponsors for their rides (that's partly why the rides are so well maintained) so if it doesn't get a new one soon it could mean the ride might be going away
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>>2864071
>Jaws wasn't that good
Nigga I rode it in USJ last year and I thought it was fantastic, and that's even in a language I don't understand. Like it retroactively made me upset for getting rid of the original in Florida.
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>This makes thoosies (incels) shit and piss themselves in fear
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>the two thoosies that post here when it comes time to have the most consistently dogshit opinions imaginable
If it wasn't so retarded I'd honestly be impressed
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>>2864152
The sign is an indication that the IP usage ban is still in effect. They cannot replace the sign since the sponsor is gone because Disney will not allow new SOTS usage, such as merch or even just replacing props like that sign, so they put in a generic message.
For this ride in particular the sponsor (unless the sponsor left because they think it is bad PR, then you have another issue) means little, what matters is what main corporate allows them to do. They are putting in a slow squeeze death strategy where they cannot market the characters anymore, cannot sell things with it anymore, and cannot do any replacement of film-specific ride aspects since they will not be given approval to use them for replacements. So while they can have the existing ride now and it just opened from renovation, they are trying to choke Tokyo out both financially and maintenance-wise until they change it
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>>2864172
I don't insult you because you like thrill rides. I insult you because you're a huge faggot and I suspect you're the same guy who demands news-anon does research on his behalf. You are the reason why thoosie is a slur. An even dumber version of Robb Alvey, but at least Robb actually enjoys his hobby. Last (you) you are getting from me.
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>>2864177
I’ve never once visited a 6-flags in my life but their advertisements were kino AF in the 90s
>t. Would gladly visit a 6 flags but I’ve heard they’re overrun with “teens” and “rowdy youths”
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>>2864231
No, it was sick. You got to see actual rhinoceroses up close, like 10 feet or less close, and dozens of other animals like crocodiles and zebras, Cape buffalo, and all sorts of crazy looking antelopes
>the African longhorns were always my fav bc of how insane they looked
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>>2864199
I've heard it's pretty good but their coaster lineup doesn't excite me. I don't go to Chicago much and I've never been tempted to go to their Six Flags park.
>>2864230
>$1 million or $2 million isn’t much for a ride that will last for years
Suppose a park has budgeted $18 million for a new coaster. The builder and the park hash out the details and the manufacturer advises the park to buy $1.5 million in parts. Now the park can only buy a $16.5 million dollar ride. You can see why even though it would be "money well spent," it's questionable if it happens.
A couple of million dollars for spare parts is a cost that is not going directly towards installing a new ride. It will not make money for the park. You can't make the ride better or more marketable or theme it more; that money is just sunk. You can see why often that $1-$2 million ends up going toward the ride itself rather than parts.
The park also has to warehouse the parts themselves and when things sit in warehouses that makes them prone to theft, loss, and damage. If the part the park already paid for got stolen, lost, or damaged, tough luck, the ride is just down until a replacement can be found or ordered. Don't forget that part was paid for, so instead of that money being a sunk cost now it's just gone. This happens ALL THE TIME with warehouse inventory across all industries.
While parks do obviously keep spare parts around, they'd prefer to only keep the absolute minimum on hand (as they see fit) and just have the manufacturer send new parts to the park when needed. So the spare part situation is an item managers have to consider when ride shopping. Not having to fool with spare parts headaches offers tremendous value to parks.
>>2864233
Bro if you're not spending your vacation time and thousands of dollars to go to the other side of the world to ride a log flume you're out of your mind
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>>2864233
You have a long while. Even if they announced tomorrow it was going you would have years until it closed). They are spending a lot on huge expansions and renovations (Fantasy Springs, Space Mountain revamp, an insanely massive entire redo of Adventureland) so they are focusing budget on that instead and they need the capacity when these renovations happen. Plus they are very open that they will only take a good ride concept to replace Splash, they will not replace it with Tiana which sucks and which is a terribly unpopular IP in Japan.
My guess is it is out by 2036, but do think they need to get through Adventureland first before even thinking of touching a complete product
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>>2864126
i went to japan last year and wondered this, apparently its a mirror flipped version but is essentially the same ride. it was exactly as i remembered it as a kid, just make sure its not down for maintenance during your visit and definitely ride it at night, the queue goes down to like 10 mins before closing
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>>2864231
>Was the safari part of RR really that bad?
No it very cool. It cracks the top 5 of guided rides all time, but it doesn't beat Jungle Cruise or Jaws.
I said Temu Kilimanjaro because obviously the zoo portion Disney drives you through had an extremely high budget. For the type of small regional park BGT was, Rhino Rally overperformed at the zoo aspect, but Disney made KS the crown jewel of AK and it shows.
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>>2864288
>A couple of million dollars for spare parts is a cost that is not going directly towards installing a new ride. It will not make money for the park.
Like fuck it won’t. Busch Gardens has burnt all their good will in the past couple of years and their inability to keep their rides open is a big part of that. The negative word of mouth they have going on right now is unreal. Even their remaining fans bemoan how bad they’ve gotten. Cheetah Hunt is easily the most popular rides in the park, one of the rare ones that pleases both families and thoosies. They are absolutely losing money hand over fist in lost attendance from frequent rides closures and negative word of mouth, far more than a million dollars.
Busch Gardens Tampa is just run by retards. There isn’t a nice way to say it.
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>>2864311
> Busch Gardens Tampa is just run by retards. There isn’t a nice way to say it.
Agreed. It’s still a world class park and all the foundation is there for it to once again compete head to head with Disney and Universal, but it would need a completely change of leadership and management culture, bc whoever is running it now obviously does not give two shits about the park itself or the people who attend it
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>>2864313
It’s not even a United or private equity. BGW is a fine park. The food is the same shit and they could do more with the European theme, but other than that I have no major complaints. I only spent 4 hours in SWO recently and saw nothing too terrible other than the flying coaster going down.
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>>2864288
>The park also has to warehouse the parts themselves and when things sit in warehouses that makes them prone to theft, loss, and damage. If the part the park already paid for got stolen, lost, or damaged, tough luck, the ride is just down until a replacement can be found or ordered. Don't forget that part was paid for, so instead of that money being a sunk cost now it's just gone. This happens ALL THE TIME with warehouse inventory across all industries.
Not gonna get into all of this now since I’m driving, but as an actual warehouse engineer who had worked in spare parts, ecom, production, food, consumer electronics, and third party logistics warehouses, this is not how warehouses work. In any case, losing or damaging your own spare parts is a skill issue.
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>>2864377
Disagree 100%. It’s still my fav park in Florida and it’s not even close. It just pains me to see it in this state when I know what it has been and what it can be again. It and SeaWorld still rule Halloween and Christmas and it’s not even close
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Holy fuck you faggots weren’t kidding about the Brazilians. There are probably more of them at Sea World than Americans.
Speaking of SWO, why is it so shit? One train on Pipeline and Manta. Family coasters keep closing intermittently. Lazy ops. Bad food.
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>when you sit in front of a latina on tower of terror
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>Plans for Epic Universe's new events building revealed:
>Can hold 1,200 to 1,400 guests
>2 levels
>53,886 square feet gross
>Solar panels on roof
>Kitchen & offices also included
>Located in Celestial Park
>Permits say cost is $20.6 million
>Construction started
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>>2864571
And just for a little insider information. I know you corporate lot don’t get it bc you’re spoon fed. Anybody who’s anybody if they are to use panels keep them offsite and confined bc they will break and they will poison anything they come in contact with
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I don't like spinning coasters, I don't get the point.
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>>2864670
I've never been a fan either, there's too much variability when it comes to spinning, so if you don't spin that much the ride usually sucks. Doesn't help when you're a little goblin man like myself so you don't have much weight to throw around. The only spinning rides I've enjoyed are the Mack Xtreme spinners, but only because they're still great if you dont spin.
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>>2864670
Have you ridden cobras curse? It’s pretty fun and kids LOVE it. The story is really kitch and kino too
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Test Track 3.0 isn’t as good as 1.0 but it’s fine. It’s also way more appropriate than 1.0. That side of the Epcot is supposed to be about the far future, not the “next year’s car should be marginally safer than this year’s car” future.
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>>2864771
Don’t forget Walt was based AF and hugely into the JQ back when it was mainstream. Thankfully it’s mainstream again so people like you can recognize when their evil influence creeps in and makes everything ugly and gross
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This is an autistic tangent but I work at a paint company here in Florida and I liked going through our accounts and seeing that we supplied for Disney world and Universal. Unfortunately, I do not work for PPG which is I guess a major sponsor for Disney (Backlot express at DHS is basically a PPG commercial) so our contribution with them is comparatively minute and outdated. But we still do quite a bit with Universal even recently, mostly exterior floor coatings. Not like we get details on what any of this stuff is used for but a couple of the fun things I found was a color labeled "Epcot brown" and some Universal orders specifically marked as for Halloween Horror nights.
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>>2864781
> Only went on it once and the load time was absolutely horrendous
That’s how I know you’re a liar. You literally just make shit up. It’s on a moving platform. The loading time doesn’t change. Disney fags stay lying
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>>2864791
Orlando is the genital wart on the dick that is Florida. Every single man I’ve met who was from there was gay or brown
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Just booked a couple nights next month at WDW Port Orleans Riverside. Just gonna chill with my parents, not step in the parks. Stayed there once solo and thought it was decently nice, hope to see the jokester piano guy's show, parents would love that.
What at Disney springs is actually worth sitting down and eating at?
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>>2864909
Rainforest cafe is perhaps the only theme restaurant chain that didn't go to shit. All the other places shrunk portions and made their menus really boring.
WHY DOES THE HARD ROCK CAFE HAVE A FUCKING MESSI BURGER?
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>>2864828
>fight at busch gardens tampa
>heh typical black nig-
>everyone involved is white
Huh
>>2864831
I only went once when I was a kid and barely remember it. I do however remember later that same day waiting a long time for a bus because we were planning on scooting over to ride around on the monorail for fun. The slow jazz music by Cirque was going and it made me really sad and had me thinking about how one day my mom will die and we were just wasting time. So i told mom we didn't have to wait anymore and we drove home.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2xeyy33jxo
>Universal literally set up office on top of the local council offices
Literally putting pressure on them. That said, I'm amazed that they haven't encountered any roadblocks yet
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>>2864926
What a sad story at such a happy place. The monorail closed in 1999 and I only got to ride it once. I remember it being like flying over the Serengeti which for a kid was incredible. Maybe it was worth the wait
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>>2864932
I managed to come across this epic footage from 1997. Makes you remember how much better BG used to be. Just look at the Zagora Cafe with all the mounts. Why would they even get rid of those?!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hHe-eX68qn8
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Some minor news out of Disneyland:
>Monsters Inc now closing 2027, Avatar will supposedly not be delayed
>11am restriction for park hopping going away
>New initiative to increase ride reliability (laughable that this is considered newsworthy)
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>dark continent
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>>2864989
It makes sense when you understand the culture. White people were the original black people. Or to be more specific, the Scots-Irish. Almost everything /pol/ associates with black people - the lax work ethic, the propensity for violence, low education, non-standard English, etc. - could be found among the borderland Scots in the 1600s. They emigrated to America and brought that culture with them, filling in Appalachia and the south, and it was that culture black people were surrounded by. That culture would see no issue with fighting someone in a roller coaster line for perceived disrespect. So when you see white people acting like black people here, it’s really a certain strand of white people just being itself.
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>epic express passes are 300 dollars
>epic express passes are 300 dollars
>epic express passes are 300 fucking dollars
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>>2864931
the blocks will happen when they get close to completion and the dogshit Building Safety Regulator (BSR) start demanding stupid paperwork. Many construction projects get fucked over or get cancelled because of the costs dealing with BSR. The joke is these people arent experts in the field and hide behind paperwork that cost the taxpaper billions. wasteful
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>>2865067
I’m convinced the whole British building approvals system is just a racket for politicians to make as many fat kick backs as possible.
>t. Used to do business in the UK and cash gifts for approvals was just a normal cost of doing business
Once saw a guy deliver £30,000 quid in briefcase to get approval to open a small business
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>>2864995
I've heard people (person) say there weren't that many borderland scots who came to the US so the idea that they had a huge impact on american culture is sort of overblown.
But I don't know that much about it.
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>>2864807
Sounds comfy. Jock Lindsay's is great, that underground Italian place is good for food and drinks, Polite Pig is top tier BBQ with good beer, idk you'll figure it out. I like Disney Springs and always spend at least half a day there just wandering around getting buzzed on suds.
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>>2865156
>that underground Italian place is good for food and drinks
That is the only sit-down place I've eaten at at DS and I did not like it. Unless there's like another place you're talking about. The one basically underneath planet hollywood.
Granted it was lunch so i dont know if that makes a difference but place was dead and the spaghetti was totally unremarkable.
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>>2865164
It's sort of both? The colors are a little muted but it's a very nice lounge experience. Definitely makes sense why they have a fireworks viewing thing here, you can tell it would have great views
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>>2865183
When I went I rope dropped the HTTYD land because 1) the skyfly is super low capacity and 2) everyone rushes to Ministry and Donkey Kong at rope drop. Rope dropping either of those two will be miserable but people do it for a good reason.
My strategy was to do Ministry late in the day and hop in line for DK right before closing, it worked perfectly for me (got to do Ministry 4 times in a row) but it's a gamble considering the latter's reliability
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>>2865189
At the time they were closing Ministry early and had a sign out saying that, not sure if they still close it early (this was in September). Everything else has lines open until park close (unless there's a breakdown)
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>>2865168
as a Dallas native these spacehsip earth references mean nothing to me. we've had our own geodesic sphere (Reunion Tower) years before epcot opened and all of disney's newer references feel like dallas knockoffs.
pic related, that's not in epcot
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Ok well I got ahead of myself with the Disney Riverside hotel stay. I booked it before asking my parents first and Dad didn't want to/couldn't do it.
Cancelled the reservation. Guess I'll just be floating around by myself trying to do new things.
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>>2865247
You could always just spend the time trying/ succeeding at picking up chicks. Chicks always get extra horny/ receptive to cold approaches when they’re on holiday. I’ve had great success just saying hello or asking for the time. Never done it at Disney tho and I hear people there can be very weird, but who knows
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>>2865370
That’s completely insane. It’s not like it’s some new and innovative tech with all sorts of animatronics etc, it’s a regular old LSM launch coaster that have been built for decades. Is Mack just worse than Intamin? Or did Universal just skimp on purchasing spare parts for their flagship roller coaster. Either way, lol, lmao
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>in line for the front on penguin trek
>it’s completely deserted
>normalfag and his normalfag girlfriend come running up
>get disappointed when they see me and get in line for row two instead
>tell them I’ll let them have it and start walking towards the back
>“are you sure?”
>tell them yes, I can tell they want it, I’ll probably ride it twice anyway
>after the ride go to collect my cell phone from the bin
>ask them how it was
>girl is laughing and asks “is this your favorite ride?”
>”no, why would you think that?”
>”because you’re riding it 10 times by yourself!”
>”no, I said I’d ride it twice, not 10 times. This was my first time riding it.”
>they keep laughing as we make the long walk to the penguins
Last time I ever do something nice for a normalfag.
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LOTR would elevate Epic Universe above DisneySea.
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>>2865668
You're getting the BTTF coaster as your exclusive. LOTR deserves a fully immersive land like Epic to reach its full theme park potential. If the UK govt pulls its head out of its ass and models their economy on Florida, you could get your own version of Epic.
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>>2865675
Guessing rights issues. Chance rides sell a Spongebob trackless shooter, Blackpool Pleasure beach has 2 mediocre Spongebob kiddie rides (and a historical bright orange family woodie) in their Nick themed section.
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>>2865677
I wanna visit Blackpool Pleasure beach so bad bros, from rope drop to close. I hear it’s unbelievable at night. Honestly I want to visit it more than any other park in the entire world. That and Silver Dollar City
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>>2865677
Universal Kids Resort is getting a SpongeBob area, so maybe it's in the pipeline. Bit weird though as, imo, SB is a property that is only appreciated via nostalgia, by millennials and gen-z. I don't think kids give a shit.
It's as old as Dudley Dooright was when Islands was built. It's a retro throwback IP at this point. I dont see kids walking around with spongebob shit on anymore. Way more likely to see a kid in a FNAF or Poppys Playtime shirt than spongebob
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>>2865668
I could see a version of LotR being exclusive to the UK but not the entire IP. Maybe EU gets Rivendell while the UK gets the Shire. Leaving the property out of the US entirely would be fucking insane though.
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Kumba is a beautiful piece of shit. They’d rather paint the track than fix it, which I suppose is understandable.
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>>2865753
So many aging steel coasters with iconic elements that are unbelievably rough because they don't pull in the crowds for a retrack to be worth it.
At least Colossus got a clone with better trains and restraints
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>>2865753
What are they doing to Kumba? Night rides on Kumba will forever be one of the greatest pleasures in life
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>>2865758
B&Ms are such terrible investments. I’ve run the numbers and the Florida ones are walk-ons something like 75% of the time compared to less than 5% for the Intamins and Vekomas. And they stopped giving a shit about quality years ago. Hopefully they go the way of Arrow soon.
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>>2865753
How do we know it needs a retrack?
>>2865758
I feel sorry for the UK because seemingly no park has the money or permission to go very tall, for years they have been going after the inversion record. A few inversion are fun but more than 5 or so and they become tedious.
>>2865760
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>>2865774
I miss that little nigger like you wouldn’t believe. Literally the perfect family coaster
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>>2865770
Python and Scorpion were both relics that unfortunately sat on prime park real estate and used off-the-shelf layouts. The entire Congo area is designed around Kumba and CRR. Kumba was tracked to utilize the environment. Very different.
>>2865768
idk about this comparison. The Intamins and Vekomas are launch coasters, and, by and large, heavily themed. The B&Ms in Florida are traditional gravity lift hill coasters. People like launch coasters because the excitement is spaced out throughout the ride rather than just in the beginning. It's not the manufacturer, it's the ride type. It's just a natural progression of the industry until some company is crazy enough to blend the two ride types and creates a lift hill drop that is then launched mid-way through the track.
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>>2865778
>It was closed to save money on maintenance
That's why most rides get removed at any park. I don't think it very popular the last 20 years of its existence and it certainly wasn't very good. I don't understand why some people cling to it like it was a landmark ride. Losing the log flume was a bigger hit imo.
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>>2865778
That's not true. It was demolished to extend the size of the upcoming Mack Rocking Boat since it was directly next to Stanley Falls. Maintenance may have been a factor, but they definitely want to put more popular ride in the middle of the park.
>>2865779
I'm disagreeing with you saying they're bad investments. They were great investments...at the time. They made the parks their money back, but the coaster industry advanced and moved past traditional lift hills which are seen are less exciting. All of the B&Ms in Florida are old.
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>>2865784
I'm not a thoosie, I'm just not retarded. The most popular coasters in florida are launch coasters. The only lift hills that get people excited these days are situations like Falcons Flight, Sirens curse, or Tormenta where the drop is so insane it makes the entire ride. The days of standard drops into standard layouts is over. There's always a gimmick.
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>>2865799
Because I can. What are you gonna do about it?
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>>2865804
Call you a fag and ignore you, most likely.
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>Iron Gwazi
10/10
>Tigris
8.5/10
>Montu
7.5/10
>Cobra’s Curse
6/10
>Phoenix Rising
4/10
>Kumba
3/10
>Air Grover
didn’t ride/10
>Cheetah Hunt
kill/10
>Sheikra
kill/10
It’s an okay lineup I guess, mostly due to Gwazi. It’d be the third best coaster park in Ohio, Pennsylvania or Virginia though.
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>>2865831
What is kill/ 10. Cheeta hunt is the most popular ride in the park and Sheikra was innovative and the tallest dive coaster in NA when it opened. It’s got great theming too. That splash down after going through the castle is always kino
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I am calling for a complete shutdown of discussions of Busch Gardens Tampa until we can figure out what the hell is going on.
We are now talking about Cedar Point. Ohio-anons this is your moment to shine.
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>>2865854
Not an Ohio anon but I’m down. Anything other than, “did you see the new flowers they put in front of the Moana restaurant? I think they should have been red instead of pink!”
>I fucking hate Disney adults so fucking much bros it’s unreal.
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>>2865865
One post about a shrub being removed (which wasnt actually about the shrub, but rather the beginning of a construction project) and you've been seething about it for over three weeks.
>>2865864
Probably. RMC would have had more success and not be headed towards bankruptcy if they also created coasters that fit the family thrill niche that Cheetah Hunt and Guardians/Hagrid hit. The absurd amount of supports required to hold their tracks up also severely limits the theming options. Only real option for them is the face-melting G-force coasters which is a niche that presents an economic ceiling.
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>>2865901
Probably something they'll eventually pursue for Yuta given that old master plan with expansion plot ideas floating around had a spinning coaster taking up that spot between Matugani and the Pengali Ruins courtyard.
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>>2865768
B&Ms are capacity machines. A B&M easily does 28 to 32 riders per train while those shitty little launch coasters go as low as 18. put a B&M in any small to mid-size park and it'll easily have one of the shortest waits of any coaster in the park yet probably cycle as much or more guests than the others.
can't go by just wait times. or else disney would tear down small world and pirates because they are able to shove people onto a boat for 15 minutes at a time and are more efficient than whatever new shit they want to sell lightning lanes for.
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Anyone ever heard of COTALAND? Turns out my city is getting it. It's supposed to have 30 rides with 5 of them being coasters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzjcV1P1m28
Actually exciting for me since now I don't have to drive an hour and thirty minutes to go to Six Flags
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>>2866030
Are there enough Californian refugees in Austin yet to support a Disney/Universal park?
Texas not having a premier theme park always struck me as odd. It has nice beaches and affordable land with a large and growing population. Seems obvious.
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>>2866047
True Texans don't like Californians and they should fuck off for good. I think if we got a Disney/Universal park oddly enough it'd probably be set in Corpus Christi. The city has that Florida-vibe to it. It's good that Austin is finally getting a big attraction though. All we really had before that was Austin's Park and Pizza.
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>>2862057
What I'd do to be by a pool at Disney sipping a Mocktail right now. I'd hop on the monorail and check out the Star Wars rides since I still haven't been allowed to try them.
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>>2862057
Busch Gardens is so gorgeous
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>>2866047
just use a time machine and go back to when six flags over texas was a disneyland competitor :)
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>>2865867
It's the quintessential Disney adult post which is why it'll live forever.
RMC is a thoosie wet dream but unfortunately there just isn't much money in pleasing thoosies. SFMM is the least popular park in southern Cal despite having far and away the best coasters. RMC seem to be one trick ponies for the most part unfortunately. Their rare ventures away from "face-melting G-force coasters" haven't been repeatable.
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>>2866115
I'm sad February is almost over. The schools have started to release Spring Break at *different * times throughout the month of March and April and May so its always jam packed.
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>>2862057
What is y'alls favorite cup at BG?
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>>2866117
>It's the quintessential Disney adult post which is why it'll live forever.
>>2866120
>What is y'alls favorite cup at BG?
You guys bitch about a post about construction on a ride beginning and turn around and talk about cups
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>>2865924
>B&Ms are capacity machines.
Only theoretically. B&Ms almost never hit their alleged capacities because most of them are at poor people parks which have terrible operations, so full trains with quick dispatches are extremely rare.
>A B&M easily does 28 to 32 riders per train
This is only true if there are actually 28-32 people who want to ride a B&M at the same time, which is uncommon. In reality B&Ms regularly dispatch trains that are half full or even less than that. But that doesn't happen much because 1). few people are interested in riding B&Ms and 2). most of those that do want to ride them are one and done. They're not like Intamins where even GPs would lap them if the line was short.
>those shitty little launch coasters go as low as 18
This is irrelevant if there is high demand for the coasters and good operations (common at non-B&M parks). Hagrid's mogs every Florida B&M in ridership despite having only 12 seats per train.
>put a B&M in any small to mid-size park and it'll easily have one of the shortest waits of any coaster in the park yet probably cycle as much or more guests than the others.
Unlikely for the reasons mentioned above.
>can't go by just wait times
Not wait times in general, but you can go by how often a ride is a walk-on. Walk-ons only happen when very few people want to ride a ride. This is extremely frequent for B&Ms. Yesterday Busch was running one train for all of their B&Ms yet they were still walk-ons because the stations were ghost towns.
This is false. I was at Busch Gardens Tampa yesterday. They were running one train on all of the B&Ms, yet it didn't matter because barely anyone was at the stations for Montu, Kumba and Phoenix Rising.
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>>2865782
Most attended parks in Florida:
1. Magic Kingdom, 18 million (0 B&Ms)
2. Epcot 12 million (0 B&Ms)
3. Hollywood Studios 10 million (0 B&Ms)
4. Universal Studios 9.5 million (0 B&Ms)
5. Islands of Adventure 9.5 million (1 B&M)
6. Animal Kingdom 8.8 million (0 B&Ms)
7. Epic Universe ??? (0 B&Ms)
<<<<<<<< POWER GAP >>>>>>>>
999. Sea World 4.3 million (5 B&Ms)
9999. Busch Gardens 4.0 million (4 B&Ms)
Sorry anon. They don't draw the geepees.
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>>2866095
That it is. Love me some giraffe time kino
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>>2865783
>I'm disagreeing with you saying they're bad investments. They were great investments...at the time. They made the parks their money back, but the coaster industry advanced and moved past traditional lift hills which are seen are less exciting.
The goal of an investment isn't just to break even, it's to make money. B&Ms are terrible at this.
>All of the B&Ms in Florida are old.
Mako isn't even 10 years old yet and it's a walk-on 65% of the time. That's pathetic. For comparison, Space Mountain just turned 51 years old and it's a walk-on 4% of the time. B&M coasters age remarkably quickly, which is why they're such bad investments.
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>>2866130
I just like nice themed hotels. I don't want luxuryslop.
>>2866131
This anon gets it. And Cabana bay has Disney-level theming and amenities without the insane price. It's better quality than a Disney moderate at a price better than a Disney value. I say this as a Disney shill who likes the values. Universal just cooked really good on that resort.
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>>2866047
>It has nice beaches
>Texas
>nice beaches
>nice
>Texas
>beaches
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>>2866125
It's B&M's fault BGT's Intamins are down for so long. Thanks to B&M, BGT is a poor people park and can't afford spare sparts. Notice how that doesn't happen at Islands of Adventure. Velocicoaster and Hagrid's do go down, but only briefly.
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Are you guys trolling or actually this dumb? NTA, but a staycation is nice sometimes because you dont have all the hassle of a normal vacation with extended travel days and having to pack. I live 10 minutes from the beach and will still sometimes rent a hotel room on the beach and just hang out all day.
Some people like all-inclusive resorts and want to break up a normal boring weekend by getting out of the house for a bit. It's really not that complicated or weird. It's especially great if you have kids and dont want them to spend all weekend in their room playing video games. Let them run around a pool for a Saturday instead
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/tpg/-gods, what do we think of this year's Mardi gras? I hope the big titty black woman that usually leads the parade didn't get let go. Her talents were immense and glorious.
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>>2866107
I think it's more funny that one of them shuts down any criticism of the park's management. The Disney autists have a long list of the changes that ruined each park, and even the Universal autists will freely admit Epic's capacity issues. You'd expect the BGT autists to be the same especially since their top ride is effectively an upcharge now
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The best thing BGT has ever done is the one ride they cant acknowledge. It's a real shame. The park was better when they viewed themselves as direct competition to Disney and swung for the fences
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>>2866174
I don't get the park rivalry. Florida parks aren't that great.
>Disney is for literal children and families
>Universal has a handful of thrill rides, but most are tame, again for families
>SWO: Going downhill, unimpressive ride collection
>BGT: Used to be good, horrible now
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>>2866133
I get that but I have no idea why you'd not go to the parks. I love the gift shops in the resorts. They're more peaceful.
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>>2866174
I live in Orlando and prefer BG. Much cheaper, but more beautiful to look at. Very beautiful women walking in the sun and gardens both black and white. They're shipping out all the illegals.
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What I'd do to be at Harry Potter Land in Epic right now.
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>>2862057
Does anyone know what was behind the failure of WB? In the 90s they were still going strong.
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>>2864995
They never flooded that area with non-whites. That's how poor it was. They didn't need to fuck it up. Unironically, they still ended up with better lives just for having superior White Christian genetics and culture.
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>>2866175
>Why can’t they acknowledge that?
Martin Short in brown face doing a bad Arabic accent pretending to be a scamming carpet salesman turned tour guide.
>>2866221
Calm down. Why is everyone in this general so hostile?
>>2866183
I'm sure it's happened at some point, but that's not the vibe. You'd probably get thrown out of the park.
>>2866230
Cheetah Hunt's loading platform is the old monorail station. It sat empty for like 10 years before CH was retrofit into it.
>>2866174
The Tampa Orlando rivalry is purely between USF and UCF and no one actually cares that much about it beyond that. Most central Florida people treat both cities as if they are the same city. We're constantly evacuating into each other when storm season hits.
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>>2866281
What's crazy to me is that those "luxury" hotels look worse than the Moderate hotels. Who in their right fucking mind would willingly pay half a grand or more a night to stay at the Contemporary? It's just a basic ass hotel but with a monorail. If you stay somewhere else, you could quite literally be saving enough money for a second vacation.
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>>2866298
I can understand since those hotels are classic Disney imagery, and maybe staying at them is a dream for Disney fans, maybe people would spend the money just to have done it. But I sure wouldn't go into debt for it, and even if I had the money, I just don't know if I could pull the trigger on staying in a hotel that expensive. And I guess the people who are willing to go into debt to stay there are what drives the prices up so much anyway. It's crazy how irresponsible those people are.
Now at Universal, I've never stayed in the more expensive hotels, but that is a splurge that's within the realm of possibility for me since the included Express Pass is such a great value.
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>>2866281
and the worst part is they justify it with "you're paying for the monorail convenience, the disney bus network is so slow :(" when these dipshits could have saved hundreds a night by staying at all star and using minnie vans every day
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>>2866193
Where do you think that is? I agree for thrill rides none of the Florida parks have more than 2-3 elite ones, but there are still 9 parks so combined there are a ton. I suppose you could say Richmond, VA with BGW and Kings Dominion right there.
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>>2866383
>OH/IN (plus SF Chicago I guess)
Too far apart to count. Holiday World is 7 hours from Cedar Point, 7 hours from Great America and 3 hours from Kings Island. I could get to any Orlando park in 45 minutes from my hotel and Busch was only 1.5 hours. Plus the midwest parks are only open half the year, so if you’re picking a place to live in Florida and LA are the only good options.
>PA/NJ
Same issue as above. The one part you could really count here is the triangle of Hershey, Dorney and Knoebels. Are they better than all of central Florida? Maybe honestly. You have everything you need here except a giga. Florida lacks a giga, full size woodies, and a major launch coaster (like Maxx Force, Storm Runner etc).
>NC/TN/GA (a lot of ground to cover though)
Way too large a region.
>KBF + SFMM
I haven’t been to MM yet and haven’t been to KBF in years so I’ll concede this one.
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Was at WDW on Monday and hit every park (sometimes multiple different times) and tried to do something new to me at each one. Going in chronological order:
>DAK
Checked out the Gorilla exhibit. Monke.
>DHS
Tried Ronto wrap because Disney redditors worship it. Very meh. Had done Millenium Falcon before but this time I did single rider. I don't remember it being so violent, last time I was on it felt tamer than Star tours. But I had my skull thoroughly rattled on this one and felt it for a while after.
Then took the skyliner for the first time. Honestly highlights of the day were chilling in the quiet gondolas even with randos.
>Epcot
Watched Awesome Planet. Was neat but no idea why it's there. Tried to book Living with the land backstage tour on the spot but didn't realize it booked out in advance. Next time.
>Magic Kingdom
Rode Tiana's before but this time it was cold as fuck. Also, I don't know what the problem is but whenever the TBA logs crest a hill they violently slam down and it's really uncomfortable. Extremely sloppy showing from Disney. I don't remember that ever being a thing on Splash proper. Other than that nothing new here for me. MK was always the only park we went to when I was a kid so the things I haven't done I mostly know about and none of them are too interesting to me. Maybe a tour in the future I guess. But I did take a shuttle boat over to Wilderness Lodge for the first time and briefly explored the lobby. Beautiful lobby, I would stay there regardless of the ripoff price.
Capped the day off with Epcot's fireworks going off right when I was at the perfect spot on the gondolas on my way back to DHS for Fantasmic.
Unrelated but one of my favorite quirks of Test Track is the text shadow on this sign is actual shadow. The text is just a sticker on glass and there's a dedicated light pointed at just the right angle for the aesthetic drop shadow look.
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>>2866431
>Here's your fucking arch, kiddo
>What do I do with it?
>You uh...walk through it
>And then what?
>Turn around and do it again the other way
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Given that Waymo has just officially launched in Orlando, why doesn't Disney hire Waymo to launch a dedicated fleet service between Orlando airport, Brightline stations, and the Disney parks? That would give them a great opportunity to restore the "Disney Bubble."
Also, why don't they do that with BYD's Linghui self-driving cars at Tokyo Disneysea, Disneyland Shanghai, and Disneyland Hong Kong? These just feel like no-brainers.
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>>2866460
Need a WDW shrubbery update stat
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The galacticoaster actually turned out pretty neat, babies first Cosmic Rewind. Shame it's short but it's still comparable to Tron. Guessing it was 1/10th the budget of that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcEPnig4J-c
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>>2866543
I'm also adding the guy who is hung up on a post that happened to involve a bush and thinks its proof that Disney adults post here despite himself being a cringe childless millennial obsessed the the souvenir cup offerings at a D-tier coaster park in Tampa.
His name is now shrub-fag
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>>2866610
I don't know cause I don't work there. What color is your favorite Busch Gardens cup? Probably this one you fucking gaywad
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Which one did you personally feel the most called out by?
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>>2866612
For me? It’s the 50th anniversary stainless steel cups. They keep your drink colder for longer
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For me it’s the BGT Dark Continent wood handled German glass beer mug
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Villains Land rides revealed
>Emperor's New Groove family coaster
>Indoor Maleficent water-based E-Ticket Dark Ride (Mack Boat?)
>Dinner with a show featuring Hades
>Ursula Spinner flat ride
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>>2866669
Nevermind, it's gonna be dogshit.
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>>2866669
Can't see a mack boat unless they can prove high capacity and reliability. A long lasting, slow high capacity ride would be massive for the park but the question will be how they keep it all ages considering how much shit Snow White and extra-terrorestrial got.
Emperor's new groove family coaster? Fuck knows how they'd make that fit in. Could work basing it on her secret lab coaster. Some sort of small footprint high capacity wild mouse Guessing they don't want another Primeval whirl / Goofy's Flight School but Crush's coaster is hugely popular so a high capacity properly themed spinner would be popular. Maybe in the style of the fullyautomatix coaster from Parc Asterix but seating 6-8 at a time.
Big capacity eatery with a dinner show would be neat but it's going to be a pre-booked table service place no doubt. Would be neat if they could stick in a giant eatery like Videopolis and tweak it to make it higher capacity. Disney doesn't like people sitting and resting for a while though.
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>>2866680
>Emperor's new groove family coaster? Fuck knows how they'd make that fit in.
The entire ride will exist purely so that animatronic kronk pulls a lever and drops the vehicle while the fat millennial women on board scream "WRONG LEVER". Hopefully there's a bit more to it than a standard wild-mouse. People have been asking for that to be a ride since the film came out. Paris Indiana Jones but with a tilt-drop when kronk pulls the lever, maybe?
Unless the Maleficent boat ride is somehow an all-time banger I think this is kind of a whiff. Was hoping for something a bit more in line with Monsters Unchained (but made for disney's much gayer audience). A menagerie of all the villains trying various ways to capture the guests. Seems dumb to have villains land and then only feature one. Especially from a "we want to sell $70 shirts" perspective.
I'm sure the Instagram hoes that constitute the cherished Disney target audience are very exited though
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>>2866709
Can't see them spending megabucks (by their standards at least). They'll want a relatively small footprint ride that won't get 2 hour queues on quiet days.
Not impossible they go a "dark ride with small coaster element" . 8 seater Intimin multi-dimensional coaster with 2-3 mins of dark ride stuff, track splits in 2 with two turntable drop/slide elements for the "wrong lever" part then it launches into a compact twisty coaster part that lasts around a minute.
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Villains land is completely DOA if any one of these rumors are true. It's like total ragebait aimed at true Disneyheads. Disney PR needs to step in at this point and squash these. If they don't, they're either retarded at marketing (they usually are) or the rumors are true and the hype is dead.
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https://archive.is/zX0yX
This is the actual article that these plans are coming from, and it mentions:
>Boat ride will use the Shanghai Pirates ride system
>Coaster on the same thrill level as Slinky
>Hades dinner show in the same vein as Diamond Horseshoe
>"According to several sources, the point of reference for the land has gone from Dark Universe ... to the Isle of Berk ... Berk, which won the 2026 Thea Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Theme Park Land category, is not only more expansive, with several rides, fun food options, an immersive stage show and tons of exclusive merchandise, but it is also, crucially, brighter and more family friendly."
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>>2866730
At least they seem to be getting some of the right lessons from Universal. Blow them away first, then they'll happily open their wallets for "Ursula's freshly squeeze ink" or whatever. It does give them a perverse incentive to keep the queues long so they can charge for Lightning Lane though.
Madam Medusa's old paddleboat would have been cool as a restaurant and would have been a cool way to transition to villain land from Tiana's but it's pretty damn obscure.
Whatever they build, just finish it before 2030...
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>>2866734
You're right, shrub-fag. Let's go back to discussing our favorite cup colors.
Anyone else have the red SheiKra souvenir sipper?
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>>2866162
I was just quoting that anon. I'm not sure how to sum them up. Their favorite elements definitely include air time, but also zero G stuff and unexpected terms.
Speaking of RMC, does anyone else do that downhill barrel roll on Iron Gwazi? That thing is really fucking fun and I can't think of another time I'm seen it outside of that coaster.
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>>2866783
Based and cheetah cup pilled
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>>2866837
I don’t. I’m 6’6” and for some reason the little wild mouse tracks make me always feel like:
>1. I’m going to hit my head on something
>2. The little wild mouse car is going to tip over and fall off the tracks
Other than that, wild mouse’s are super fun. I loved them as a kid, especially the carnival/ fair ones
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>>2866404
>the triangle of Hershey, Dorney and Knoebels.
Don't forget Great Adventure. If you live in Philly or the surrounding area, you're within a two hour drive of all of these, plus the boardwalk amusement parks of New Jersey which, while not exactly incredible, have their own appeal. It's not as convenient as Orlando, but it's a damn good region if you like amusement parks.
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>your park vlogger waifu is turning into a titty streamer
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>>2866931
Jess Tucciarone
It's been gradually building over time
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>>2866709
>A menagerie of all the villains trying various ways to capture the guests. Seems dumb to have villains land and then only feature one.
Yeah, it's insane to not have a villains team-up dark ride, especially since it would give a chance to use characters who aren't in the parks yet to draw in their fans. Then again, if there's anything you can count on modern Disney to do, it's look at an easy slam-dunk and say, "let's do something shitty instead," a la not having Friends on the Other Side before the drop in Tiana's.
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I'm convinced Disney takes every neat idea into a room full of 50 year old women and says "Make this worse".
In 5 minutes I can shit out a concept that would have made Disney a billion dollars and I'm just a regular everyday retarded autistic guy, watch:
Land narrative:
>Disney Villains are allowed to move into the Magic Kingdom under the stipulation they all sign a legally binding treaty (represented by a floating golden scroll) restricting their villainous machinations.
>Villains walk the land freely interacting with guests
>They all live there and you can see areas/houses inspired heavily by individual villains, hear them fighting behind doors, etc
>Darkmoor but Toontown
Ride preshow narrative:
>Villains conspire in secret in the dungeon beneath the castle to break the treaty and take over the magic kingdom (cause they're the bad guys)
>Treaty is bound with magic from merlin, the genie, sorcerer mickey, etc
>There's some sort of bullshit loophole in the document that allows them to use guests to "wish" the treaty away
>guests have to help keep the document away from the villains while not being captured
Ride narrative:
>Guests begin sneaking the scroll out
>One of the villains spots them and attempts to capture the vehicle
>Guests get away
>end up cornered by another villain (Captain Hook's Pirate Ship with a ton of cannons aimed at the ride vehicle, for example)
>Guests get away
>cornered by another villain (Madam Mim who turns into the serpent thing and tries to bite your cock off)
>get away
>etc etc, 1.5 minutes of going from scene to scene with a rogues gallery of different villains
>Finale is a full scale Maleficent dragon
>Sorcerer Mickey shows up and ices that bitch
>"Aww geeze faggots, thanks for saving magic kingdom"
Probably too autistic but I feel like this is more in line with what people were hoping it would be. I think it would print money for them
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Include a scene where John Silver saves the guests, and I'm onboard. Honestly, I think a Maleficent-centered ride and Kronk and Yzma coaster are fine, but you need an overarching villains ride in addition. Make it an omni-mover with different scenes for various villains. Obscure ones can be combined together (Madam Medusa and McLeach for example). Make it the people-eater of the land, keeping the animatronics simple so they don't fucking break constantly and to keep cost down.
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>>2867048
Oh yeah, it sucks not being able to have year-round parks, and Harrisburg is not somewhere I'd ever want to live. It's better being in the Southeast, outside of Philly. Close enough to go do things in the city without actually having to live in that shithole. If I was loaded, I'd probably go live somewhere else, but for someone who isn't rich, it's a good location. Having access to numerous parks for half the year beats most places in the country.
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>>2867049
I'm not sure Pennsylvania doesn't beat Orlando for parks. Orlando traffic seems to be bad at all waking hours. I was really surprised to find it so bad in February. Plus Disney and Universal are usually packed. Meanwhile I had a blast at Kennywood on a Sunday, barely any lines.
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>>2867053
I'd love to get to Kennywood someday, but it's too far for me to do a day trip. I'll probably hit it on the way to Cedar Point when I finally take a trip out there.
>>2867054
Because the fountain is based. When they do inevitably change the land, I hope they find a way to keep him or make something similar.
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>>2867057
I didn’t think the guy there on Sunday was very good. I guess there’s not much you can do in February though if you don’t want to get people wet.
I still remember spending hours playing there in 2007. The guy hit sprayed me full force in the face for 5 seconds straight and I didn’t care.
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>>2867048
If you are in Eastern PA Nickelodeon Universe up in North Jersey is indoors and open all year, and it in that around 2 hour travel corridor.
It is relatively expensive (like $140 for a 2 month pass) and was infamous for ride closures for a while but it is an option for a theme park in the winter months.
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so what the hell are they doing on stardust racers? Ive seen pictures of this maintenance taking a grinder to the track - so that makes me think there is a fresh period of testing coming after the works. Realistically this isnt opening until late March
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