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>introspection edition
In Buddhism, it is held that accumulating good karma leads to a favorable rebirth, while bad karma results in an unfavorable rebirth.
Thread question:
If following the teachings in Buddhism, how will your next life look like?
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>>2863096
>next life
Worry about the life after the next, THEN things will get worth living in.
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>went to Thailand for 3 weeks
>was so good i am depressed now in my home country
how the fuck do i move/live there for a part of every year there with all the weird visa rules if i'm only 22 and not ultra rich? I want to do it in a legit, legal way and not be an asshole
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>>2863098
DTV
I work remote. Company gave me the green light to work here half the year. I have to be in the states for six months to maintain residency. But at this point I don’t really care to. I want to live here the rest of my life. But I also am half Thai and have a lot of family here which makes things easier for me. I dread going back to the states and seeing all the fat fucks and paying inflated prices.
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>>2863103
What worries me about DTV is what i'll do after 5 years, like can i just apply for it again then? Personally i'd choose the Muay Thai variant for sure since i've been training MT for about 8 years rn and have always wanted to do it in Thailand, already tried out a couple private sessions on my last holiday there too and it was great.. Thailand is fucking amazing but i wish my Eurofag Schengen shit applied to the entire world, paperwork sucks
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>>2863233
Living in Thailand as a foreigner is a privilege whose conditions may be changed or revoked at any time. You take for granted all the rights you have as a native citizen in your home country, and seem to think they will or should automatically transfer over to Thailand. The truth is, you have no rights whatsoever as an alien abroad.
>>2863145
He does have the starry-eyed idealism of babby's first overseas trip.
>whoa my god there is padthai, and there is muaythai, and there is thai massage with happy ending, I'm literally in paradise!
Once the novelty of being in Asia wears off, you will start to realize that all human societies are deeply flawed, including Asian societies. And you will either learn to cope with those flaws, or seethe endlessly about them just like you do with your home country.
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>>2863244
Solid comment
I was being flippant but some people really need some perspective, lived for years in south east Asia and seriously worry for some of the people I meet
They don't know shit about Thais or the country and are speed running so muchl trouble. DTV seems to have accelerated that
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Going to visit in November for a month. Been here before but I was partying too much and only did south, plus water was very murky when I was here so no snorkeling.
>want to do north - what do you recommend?
>definitely want to go back south but actually snorkel - any specific spots or tours you'd recommend?
>do want to party but make it less of a goal
>aim to stay in fancy hostels and occasionally rent a bungalow
>will also meet my ex so recommend something romantic because we'll probably fuck
Not interested in any kind of whoremongering or degenerate nonsense.
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>pick a ~40kg hooker in the lineup
>cute and giggly
>say my dick is big like they always do despite the fact I'm 8cm flaccid
>when I start to get hard she just can't stop looking with the fear getting more intense after each blood pulse until I reach my maximum power of 20cm
>ask if she's ok and she laugh and say of course
>the whore actually get wet and a few tickles on her clit make her ready
>glad it looks like I'm going able to fuck her properly
>actually have to go slow as fuck and after 5 minutes I can tell she's really just enduring it
>ask for a blowjob instead
Found a few tiny ones who just took it hard this trip but my streak has ended. She was still fun and friendly so had a good time.
We talked about the job in the jacuzzi and she says girls prefer the Chinese customers because they're fat and last one minute. Whites are ok but too much work.
Also how they smile or not in the line up is very important apparently, thought they just compete to get your attention but if one's looking away or has only a little smile that means she really doesn't want you. They think it's obvious and we all get the hint but men are way more dense than they expect.
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>>2863103
>I have to be in the states for six months to maintain residency
Usually it's that you can't live in one single other country more than six months of the year or they will try to claim you as a tax resident, if you're a US citizen they'll be trying to get their money either way
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>>2864176
>Also how they smile or not in the line up is very important apparently, thought they just compete to get your attention but if one's looking away or has only a little smile that means she really doesn't want you. They think it's obvious and we all get the hint but men are way more dense than they expect.
thanks for this
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>>2864132
I don't know what those farang think they were doing, stealing a knickknack worth no more than fifty bucks or so. Did they think they could hawk that for a fare to get back home or something? Did they not realize there are cameras everywhere in every country in the world now?
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>>2864456
I haven't booked shit yet. I just know I will be flying to Phuket.
I have been in Phuket before and stayed close to Surin beach, would like to stay in something similar. A little calmer.
I stayed in Patong as well but it was a bit too young/party imo.
I can drive motorcycles yes, I don't speak suka, I don't plan to dive but I do like snorkling.
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>>2864474
Could be fine then since you can drive a bike and aren't stuck in Patong the whole time. If you've never been to Krabi or Phi Phi you could plan to spend some of the time there since they're close, but Phi Phi might be more young/party than you're looking for
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I want to go to Pattaya but my (nice but anxious) parents always want info like where I’m going and what hotels because they’re afraid I’ll be kidnapped and beheaded while traveling. I don’t want them to google Pattaya and see what it is and I don’t want the complication of lying to them about where I’m going, can I get a similar enough experience in Bangkok? Is there anywhere convenient to stay outside of Pattaya so I’ll be ‘staying’ somewhere else and can just commute in and out?
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>finally go to Red Fern who was the "legendary" Eden before the owner got shot in his own brothel
>the rule is that you have to pick 2 girls including one who's across a line which means she does anal
>after a double blowjob and playing around I fuck the anal girl in the pussy and she can take it very well which is rare in Thailand due to my size, I can really pound hard with her legs on my shoulders
>ask for anal
>"yes I can but I need to go do the washing"
>don't bother
What's the point of selling anal like that if she's not ready wtf. I guess I could fuck the other one meanwhile but after 3 minutes she couldn't handle me anymore already.
Had fun anyway, anal girl was cute as fuck and had the tiniest tits I've ever seen naked.
>>2864580
What did she mean by this? Dropped her routine and let herself go?
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>>2864638
She's freelance, has her own place, told me this after we finished. She's older but said she started offering erotica only few months ago (I believe her).
Have you been getting into sideline? As in actual sideline, not agency girls. Plenty of websites, telegram channels, twitter but they are dominated by agencies. Should I just start hitting up girls physically near universities or what
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>>2864641
I just don't get what she means by careless in this context, I'm ESL though.
Sorry I just go in brothels, there's (almost) no bullshit if you go in the right ones because you can just complain to mamasan.
Also I need a lineup, can't trust pictures online.
Soliciting random girls sounds risky though, try tinder maybe I heard a lot will just quote a price fast.
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>>2864642
Dating apps in current year everywhere are trash heap, girls on them are uninvestable. ...or just matter of taste..
What kind of prices are you getting quoted in brothels? I did some research online and once you get out of Sukhumvit it seems the baseline rate for 2 hours is 2k baht? It's 4k per one hour if you just walk in into some random nuru massage place at a prominent spot, but there can be some interesting catches ...met a girl there who said she has been doing this kind of job only for few days (pretty sure she wasn't lying).
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>>2864644
Basic price is 2k to 2.5k for an hour. If you go in soi 24 where there's like 6 brothels next to each other that's the normal price.
There are like 100 girls anytime there and always new faces. I go in Mango which has the best service of them and a lot of uni students, it's not rare to find ones who just started.
From there you can just cross the road and there's 3 more shops, first one is Relax Room.
You can do all the lineups if you want, just say you come back later you don't have to pick one.
If you like tall girls with white skin and fake tits (what Asian customers want) you have to go to other places where the prices start at 4k, it's usually nuru, like Roze and Mitu.
The high end soapies are basically scams for rich chinks, not worth the price (20k+) at all.
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>>2864651
Never had one there, it's always that chubby 50yo milf and an older one at the cashier.
I had a papasan at some place once but didn't care I guess, he just called the girls and went away.
Anyway I really suggest IG if you go there, she's maybe a bit too intense but you really get your fix.
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>>2864664
They key word being "normally". If you are decent enough, eventually some girl will catch feelings for you. I had a girl in Chiang Mai which eventually was willing to sleep with me for free. I liked her but she started getting aesthetic surgeries on her face and that really weirded me off tho..
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>>2864176
Outcall massage, was talking with the girl about what kind of customers she is usually with. Usually they give evasive answer but this one said about 80% of her customers are Singaporean and Malaysian Chinese cause apparently she looks like Malaysian Chinese or something?
I don't get it, apparently asians pick based on looks over personality??
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I made Thai/Isaan beef jerky today. It was better than what I get at most restaurants.
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>>2864664
You are speaking from ignorance here, son. Bargirls the world over absolutely do gravitate to the guys who they find likeable; their standards may be low, but they still exist. They especially like to pair up with guys who are awkward due to lack of experience with women, but making a genuine effort to come out of their shell of celibacy and have fun. These guys have an air of innocent sweetness that makes it easy for both parties to pretend it's nothing more than a good time between casual lovers...until she hits him with the demand for 3000 baht. Now the harsh realities of business reassert themselves. BTW if you spend the whole interaction worrying "when is she going to demand money", "how much is she going to demand", "what if I don't want to pay that much, what will she do", "am I gonna regret this afterwards", you're not gonna be able to get yer pecker up, and damn right you're gonna hate yourself afterwards.
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>>2864700
Chinese and Korean men have a completely different way to spend time with the hookers. They don't try to build some kind of emotional relation or put any effort in the sex and would find it retarded to do so. Just like we don't either with the dudes picking garbage in the streets.
Basically they just lay there and let the girl do a quick blowjob then ride them for 2-3 minutes and cum. Some don't even stop using their phone.
That's why whites are too much effort for some girls who'll just ignore us. We ask for a special romantic connection and pump them as hard as we can which makes them sore.
Japs are in the middle but usually more perverted. and often ask weird stuff.
>>2864746
It's concentrated in 0.1% of the country just don't go there.
Vietnam is the meta right now though, check Da Nang.
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>>2864723
And thats the problem. At home an escort is a straightforward deal, you can use her to lose some anxiety , then move on to real women.
Here these guys get suckered into an expensive illusion and stuck there. The girls go for them exactly because of that.
But you answered why I didnt go with any of the girld, because personally I hate blurred lines , surprise charges and ambiguity, especiallywhen theres money involved.
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>>2863439
>marrying a Thai
>starting a local business
these are the quick ones
I drink and play golf with decent nice retiree boomers in Bangkok and they've all got some horror stories about guys who turned up with big dreams only to get taken to the cleaners by some whore pretending to be wife material and before you know it his life savings is gone and the Thai justice system at best doesn't give a fuck about you, at worst hates you.
People get in over their head way too easily.
The again you speak to some of these sadfucks and they're clearly trash so maybe its deserved.
The Pattaya flying club is full of them
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People told me Cha am would be very dull, but it’s very cheap, no annoying buskers and the temperature difference from back home is literally 50 degrees celcius so I’m enjoying it. There doesn’t seem to be any hookers or sex shops around either, but then again I wouldn’t be able to tell
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>>2864746
Against my better judgement I'm gonna assume this post was made in good faith and reply to it in the same manner.
There's prostitution everywhere. There's prostitution in your hometown, there's prostitution in the city you are in right now. And you gotta realize the stereotypical Nana or Pattaya locales do not reflect the reality of the entire country. Like other anon said it's concentrated in 0.1% of the country. If you want the trashy, dehumanized experience sure it's an option. But you can also act like a decent human being and find another decent human being to spend some time with. Sure, for her it's work but that doesn't mean work cannot be fun. If you think everyone is a fat disgusting boomer or an evil golddigger you gotta get off the internets and touch some grass.
As far as SEA goes Thailand is completely fine, and so are the neighbouring countries. Philippines is the place you want to avoid.
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>>2864762
>Vietnam
I realized recently no matter where I go, in context of working girls, for some reason Thai girls seem to have the most pleasant, earnest attitude.
Chinese are about maximum value extraction for the least amount of work, but they are not being rough and overt about it. It's more like a chinese palace intrigue experience - seemingly pleasant, soft and servile but also vague, impersonal, physically light and hidden dagger poised at you all the time. Had the same kind of experience in Singapore, Osaka, and Tokyo, about 6 encounters total and I think at this point I'm done with them. It's not that all Chinese girls are like this (I used to date one), but the ones in service industry certainly seem so.
Wasn't quite able to penetrate Japanese gatekeeping, but from the little experience I have, my impression is they tend to do solid work once you are alone with the right one.
Pinays are the worst, maximum value extraction for the least amount of work, and usually being rough and overt about it. I also tried hitting them up in the streets and had very little success. In Thailand, hell even in Japan, there's rather plenty of girls signaling they are open to being approached, in Philippines their body language is clearly signalling they are not interested. Service industry there is the worst, shitty locales, shitty attitude. I don't understand anons praising Philippines, I guess it takes certain kind of personality to thrive in that country.
Vietnamese for some reason not as sexually open as Thai girls. No idea why.
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>>2864841
>It's not that all Chinese girls are like this
Coomers have this really weird habit of only interacting with hookers and drawing conclusions about the women there in general
No normal guy would even consider that paying women for sex is reflective of what an actual relationship with one looks like.
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>>2864841
I was talking about Vietnam for someone who want a comfy cheap place to live in without the cooming. I did some there it was ok but not my motivation to go there at all.
Japan is either very expensive for foreigners or extremely easy once you get the system and speak jap. It's the prostitution capital of the world.
Some dude in the japan general was fucking underage girls everyday for as low as 10k yen, just negotiating directly on twitter where they advertise themselves.
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>>2863096
>If following the teachings in Buddhism, how will your next life look like?
I'd be kind of like a hungry ghost except instead of a big belly and a throat too narrow to swallow food, I'd have big full balls with no tubes to coom from.
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>SAWATDEE KAAA MASSAGE KAAA
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>>2864827
Yet how come the Philippines has the lowest HIv rate in the region and Vietnam, the second highest?Judging from your Sex Tourism Stereotype of those two.
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>>2864809
My recipe is 1lb beef, marinated 1 hr, use 2 tsp golden mountain (more is ok, wasn’t salty). 0.5 tbsp fish sauce 1.5tbsp oyster sauce. .5 tbsp sugar, some garlic powder n black pepper. Dry it in 210 degree F oven for 1 hr, flipping halfway. Fry thick pieces at 350 for 3 mins.
>Wasnt salty so you can add more onions, fish sauce, or chicken bouillon powder if you want
>some recipes add white pepper or sesame seeds
Pic related after the oven and before frying. Thais would sun-dry it but it’s not hot enough here and I hate insects on food
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>>2864919
Why the hell would HIV rates matter in the least to me? I'm not interested in any man's butthole. It's the other STDs which are a concern to normal, straight men.
>>2864841
The Philippines shill brigade is slowly losing steam. Too many real-life experiences to the contrary coming out lately. The coomerbait stories have the exact same details recycled again and again, with zero evidence of residency within the country. Anons are beginning to nootice that something is not right. Intimate snapshots with the guy's face scribbled out are no longer posted as proofs. We're figuring out that pinoy ricecucks are trying to bait horny foreign men to come to their country so they can be ripped off left and right. They even pretend to get angry about white men screwing their women (while furiously fapping to the idea). Nowhere else in Asia was I regarded as a walking piggybank quite like I was in the Philippines. Going back makes no sense at all.
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>>2864655
Checked that street out today. Most girls in all the venues had sour faces ...but that's likely my problem, not theirs. Anyways picked one girl which was smiling at me bigly. She told me apparently lots of Japanese frequent this street. Also told me she has been working this job for two months and can make 50-70k/month. Made 9k full-time at government job she worked at before.
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Recently I started fantasizing about meeting a suitable girl in a brothel, set up exclusivity deal with her and eventually convince her to start a family with me.
I actually feel like this is something which may work out well. This is how far I'm gone. I'm not sure why I have been so delusional lately.
Thank you for reading my blog.
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How do I have fun in Bangkok if I dont drink or party and only like going out after 6 pm when its not as hot. This isnt bait. Im a huge introvert and dont like bothering other people but im just looking for suggestions. Theres that MeetUp app that has gathering with locals and expats that I guess I could check out. Have any of you done that?
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>>2864949
I've had the same fantasy with a bar girl I met over there. The chances of "Pretty Woman" happening are basically 0%. She was great and we spent a few days together eating and drinking, but reality hits once you get back from your trip. To her you're just another customer since they see so many people in a year.
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>>2864961
You can go climb and do some lifting at stonegoat S69, many foreigners and it's a very social hobby, people might even come to you if you don't like making the first step. Just go during the day it's not too hot inside.
My favourite part about Bangkok is riding behind the scooters, I just do 30 minutes trips for no reason sometimes.
Also except if you have strong objections about it go do some cooming, if you're shy/virgin I recommend a more experienced one in her 30s.
Just go at Cherry massage or snow white and ask for a girl who can lead. Their basic routine is being your nympho slut while you relax and enjoy.
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>>2865075
Thank you for the suggestions. Im not a virgin and get laid back home, and I have absolutely zero interest in tutoring. But yeah, I havent had a conversation with another human being irl in over a year. Its a long story and I need to get over it so ill go to S69 as you recommended. I just saw this cute redhead at big C and didnt have the balls to go up to her, because my confidence has never been lower. Anyways, thanks anon.
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>come back home after extended Thailand vacation
>get honked at for ignoring the lights and just walking across the street when I'm sure the cars see me
>sidewalks confuse me, I have my head on a swivel to look out for scooters that never come
>supermarket guy asks me what drugs I am on as I reflexively thank him in Thai
>go out at 01:00 to get something form the 7/11 only to remember that there are none here
My home country seems like a weird ass place right at this moment
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Checked out some venues in Ekkamai (Soi Sukhumvit 63). Don't like the vibe. Most of them are clubs with bouncers, the nuru places either with male staff or the girls are shallow. I think the entire street is geared towards Chinese, and I see lots of them around.
What are some other places for cooming in Sukhumvit? Anon mentioned Mango Club and surrounding brothels for no-frills experience with good girls, Cherry Massage for just carnal pleasure, any other micro-cosmoses out there?
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>>2865202
You mean you went to Nana or Pattaya (the most prominent and stereotypical areas which are way past their glory) and are now judging the rest of the country/making ragebait posts based on your experience there?
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>beat off too much
>sex, blowjob and handjob feel nice but can’t cum
Part of me feels bad for having to get myself off, even though it’s my money. I just think of freelancers like service workers, like waiters or something so I hate feeling rude
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>>2865340
This happened to me the other night. Just walked in to a nuru massage place on a whim. Only had enough cash on me for 60 minutes. The girl was new, had near-zero technique. At the end finished myself off while she had her palm placed on my thigh. First time for everything I guess..
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>>2865357
Yeah, I think if I was in a parlour I’d end up stressing about the time and not enjoy it at all, glad I prefer ordering them to my hotel like room service. I was surprised she was actually really good at massages as well, I kind of expected that to just be a formality before the sex but it was great. I felt bad because she clearly felt a bit distressed about me not cumming, not outwardly frustrated or impatient she was laughing and smiling about it. Still came buckets doing it myself whole she sat on my face so I can’t complain
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>>2865367
Depends on where you are, if you are inside and they take you to a room somewhere else for your massage, tell you to strip without leaving or looking away, if they don’t give you disposable underwear, then they are going to offer happy ending. From the outside, if you are in the red light district obviously, if the girls are standing outside calling out and trying to get you inside, it all depends on where you are though, it’s easy to look up ones in your area online
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>>2865367
When you enter and there's a lineup of 10+ girls with revealing clothes.
That's for the more subtle places who usually catter to japs who want some discretion, the other ones have young girls in miniskirt touting.
The "regular" massage places with extra will only provide a blowjob or handjob usually.
>>2865201
Nana plaza + soi cowboy if you want to drink with a girl then pick her up to your hotel. Costly but boomers like it because it's like LARPing they seduced her. Hundreds of girls to choose from and 2-3 ladyboys gogo bars.
Tulip + Snow White next to each other at Thong Lo station, almost all girls will do anal and some way more degenerate shit. Reports I've read sound like a legalporno script.
The countless nuru joints in Whattana, girls are selected to please asian customers so tall, white skin, fake noses and tits. Can have good experiences but it's more mechanical in general. Only one I enjoyed was BKK vice because of the GTA theme and my girl was very fun.
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>>2865387
The one question is why the fuck you don't just go hooking at home, its not like this kind of place isn't available in basically every larger city of the world, and none of the places you mentioned are significantly cheaper than their western equivalents. Seriously, why go to Thailand for this?
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>>2865395
>you can go to the beach or pool when not whoring
I'd legit kill myself if I went to a forei8gn country across the world, and ended up seeing nothing besides some blown out hooker puss and shitty pools.You guys must be the dullest NPCs imaginable, never mind looks, no wonder you can't get laid.
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>>2865388
>not significantly cheaper than their western equivalents.
They're significantly cheaper than their Burgerstan equivalents, and Thailand nightlife is probably safer for a gringo than South American equivalents. I don't know why so many Europoors come for the paid studying. And that's not even getting into how nice the overall tourist experience is.
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>>2865421
>Thailand nightlife is probably safer for a gringo than South American equivalents
An assumption which leads to you retards getting cocky all the time, dine and dashing at the hookers or stepping on some Thais guys foot because whats lil Changy gon do? And then scratch your heads as to why the Pattaya flying club enjoys a steadily growing membership.
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>>2865420
I can't say for others but I love Bangkok for many reasons, it's my favourite city and I'd spend way more time there if the weather was better. Cooming takes me 1 hour day 6 days a week, it's just cherry on top.
I have a girlfriend and always was sexually active since I'm 15yo, I just like to binge and fuck 20 different girls in a few weeks. I feel relaxed and free when I'm done.
I also happen to love short skinny young brown women and we don't have them at home. I don't think there's anywhere else on earth I can have access to 100 of them in the same place and pick my favorite.
I'm currently in India where I won't fuck or coom for 2 months but do shit that filters 99% of normies. I just enjoy various stuff and landing in Bangkok to start my trips is practical, cheap and clears my head for the following months.
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>>2865449
The tuktuk drivers don't want you to know this, but in Patong the motorbikes are free
I have 458 motorbikes in my swimming pool
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>>2865388
>why the fuck you don't just go hooking at home, its not like this kind of place isn't available in basically every larger city of the world
Because it actually isn't for the most part? Germany, Spain and Athens are the only decent places in Europe for hookers these days, Latin America has risks and the US scene isn't even worth mentioning. You're very confused if you think what's available in Thailand is comparable to what you'll find at any random Asian massage parlor in the west
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>>2865429
The reality is its people who want to end it so go blow every cent they have drinking and whoring away in Pats
There's a boomer retiree conspiracy that they are fleeced and killed but as corrupt as the cops are they really do take stuff like murder seriously and are good at their jobs when they need to be, especially the death of a foreigner, it's important
There's probably one or two real instances of dodgy stuff but if you've drunk beers with some old guy in a bar at midday there its a very occams razor moment.
Some old American guy got killed recently by a group of Burmese and he sounded like a complete piece of shit who turned up with a knife and stabbed one of them because his gf left him. Apart from road accidents the farang who die in Thailand are overwhelmingly not good people and no one should care about them.
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>>2865674
Subconsciously, you know you're smarter and stronger than many of the locals, and in being so, can exploit it to a devilish extent. Sure you might not be math smart, but just by being here, you partake in deeper conversations than most local Thai men would.
We were all raised in a world where white humans were depicted as refined, ideal, and the best. These characteristic of white is true in some aspects, though there is a large number of burn outs amongst us. Anyway, Disney films with white princesses and white princes are still very much in the minds of women in Asia, especially Thailand where western culture is pedestaled. In a terse phrase, the women in Thailand have a "London calling" in their heads. As a child I saw Britain in a positive light, and I think a similar light is what they've managed to hold onto while most white men have let go of that by 2019 at the latest.
Who doesn't know a handful of Asian women that went abroad to the UK, Australia, or California? The places where white men used to be a majority, and created the concept of romance films, defining what love looks like for the masses.
All of this and much more runs in our heads subconsciously. Except we can and do make it conscious and they can't and don't. That applies to many other concepts, and it makes the beast inside you go fucking bananas. Tame it.
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>>2865674
The locals have a culture of not saying anything directly when you act as a retard - being a complete NPC incapable of independent action, you begin losing it once you are no longer under the rigid social control of your home village and left to your own responsibility and judgement. As your "moral compass" is entirely external and dictated entirely by fear of the local fishwives gossiping or the priests reprimands, it ceases fucntioning once you arrive in a country where no one really cares what you do or don't.
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Delusional.
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I made friends with my 7 11 guy. I practice Thai with him and we laugh about it and he teaches me new words. It's fun. I also tried thai porridge. Fuck is it good. Like ultimate feel good simple comfort. Hope youre doing well anons ill see you around
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>>2865746
You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded.
That aside, Thailand is probably one of the countries where people care the least about white people except assume them to be ATMs/ drunken retards.
And they all have their own movies industry, no one outside the US watches disney garbage and no one care.Go to the Philipines and eat garbage meat if you want to have your megalomanic phantasy. Your only problem is that that country looks up to White people because it is basically an open sewer and bald white fatties are the only way out for the average slum dweller. Have fun
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>>2863096
Anyone ever do a fitness retreat in Thailand? I was looking at Tiger MuayThai in Phuket and it seems to check every box I want (lodging, meals, classes on site) but the cost is large. I'm sure I get what I pay for, but was wondering if other people had recommendations for retreats/gyms to check out? Not married specifically to martial arts, just want a trip that is purposefully focused on working out.
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>>2865887
>I'm sure I get what I pay for
Not necessarily. They may skip quality protein so in the end after months of working you will still be scrawny fuck. Be prepared to spend extra to supplement food.
In general, are you okay with structured authority? You may discover that shit ain't for you...
Also how much AC is in there? You may think you are fit enough and can tough it out but it can become really taxing...
Last thing, as you get more fit you may discover your sex drive will go up... perhaps make sure there are options nearby for release
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>>2865983
Pattaya only if you're a dedicated coomer with tunnel vision. If you're not then skip it. Bangkok is obligatory. You may or may not love it but there's probably something there for everyone and it's worth exploring. Chiang Mai is comfy, full of normies and newfags but it's charming and chill anyway. Never been to Phuket and don't really care about it. You should also consider going off the beaten path a bit. No need to stick to the Reddit circuit.
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>>2865887
> Not married specifically to martial arts, just want a trip that is purposefully focused on working out.
If you need to go to Thailand to 'get fit' you're not going to make it. What's stopping you from working out at home with a personal trainer, if you're in the USA that's stupidly easy.
Question for the thread, never been to Thailand during monsoon season. Staying in Bangkok, high level apartment, so not too worried of excess flooding but I've not visited during that time of year. Need to visa reset/space out between countries, got a place for like ~350/mo all utils included so was a no brainer for booking but now I realize why it might have been so cheap...
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>>2866067
He never said that he needed to move to thailand to get fit you stupid mother fucker he asked if anyone has ever done a fitness retreat because he's clearly already into fitness and wanted to hear the opinion of other anons
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>>2866086
>he's clearly already into fitness and wanted to hear the opinion of other anons
Nah, as someone who gym's regularly that reads like all the other DYEL people, he's not married to martial arts as he stated... So MuayThai is already lost more than half it's value in terms of paying for a 'fitness retreat' it's just pure stupidity to focus on Thailand in general for working out compared to the investment you can do at home and build a routine off of. The amount of people I've heard going "to thailand so they can get fit as shit and learn some cool stuff" never actually go there for it, just spend a bunch of money dicking around. Sure I've seen a few people actually train properly but they were already in the kickboxing and into that realm of working out.
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>>2865674
Drunkenness has the same effect for whites anywhere they feel safe enough to get plastered. They start throwing their weight around and being high T low inhib for a change. Drunks are the ultimate walking ATMs, which is why they are tolerated in so many places. But underneath the smiling service, they despise you loud, sloppy buffalos and laugh amongst themselves as they foist ugly greedy women on you who are nowhere near as young or as pretty as your beer goggles make you think they are.
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>>2866086
>not into martial arts
>wants to go drop at minimum 450USD+flight costs to have some broken english speaker tell him to stop eating and keep moving for a month
>this assumes he's already versed in basic martial arts which the post implies he's not really into
Looking at the site for the place he mentioned anything to make a noticeable change in someone's physique he's probably going to need the 3 month option, which is roughly 1300 USD. That's a hell of a lot to spend when you could just stay home or go to the gym on your own will power.
Also the muscle groups trained and stressed during something like muay thai isn't something you would normally exercise at the gym with. So unless he intends to keep up with what he learns, it's going to be worthless in 2 months after he leaves that 'fitness retreat'.
>>2865907
"quality protien" lmao, what the fuck is this shit, spoken like someone who watches sixpackshortcuts and buys creatine thinking it makes you ripped. Anon needs to post his current workout routine and bodyweight along with any prior kickboxing, martial arts, or other possible self defense training. Otherwise they are going to have to run him through the beginner starting strength along with a ton of cardio and stretching to get him to the basics. Guess what you can do at the cheapest gym and a meal prep plane.
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>>2866067
I moved back home last June to care for my mom after her cancer diagnosis. She passed in December. I would like to take my savings and drastically change my environment so I can clear my head. My thought was to go to thailand first for a 2-3 month fitness retreat and head west until I return home.
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>>2866187
I mean that sucks and all anon but doing 2-3 month mauythai training probably not the best thing if you're looking to clear your head after a lost family member. It's a pretty rigorous investment in you mental and physical state. Do you even have any martial arts training to begin with? If not they are going to have to start you out as a noob and push you as far as they can. I'm all for using physical fitness as a way to get out of a shitty situation and fight depression but the kind of training your asking for is not for people who are a bit down. Most gyms and programs like that in Thailand don't let you cancel early if you're not feeling it after the second week or whatever, they will just say okay you quit on us bye thanks for the funds.
What's your overall physical fitness level as of today? If it's practically nothing, my advice would be more to finding a good place to begin hiking with the spring season coming up and the temperatures+humidity aren't dogshit.
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Why do the working girls ask for how long is anon staying in Thailand? I understand sometimes they just make conversation, and sometimes they ask cause they have mercenary personalities and are gauging you as a mark. But otherwise why ask this?
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>>2866226
Yeah certainly not everyone is a gold digger but I think probably every hooker is a gold digger. It's possible they're hoping to meet somebody to get them out of that life though I guess. I dunno bro maybe somebody here has more insight than I do.
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>>2866223
>Why do the working girls ask for how long is anon staying in Thailand?
To get an idea of if you'll be a repeat customer or be interested in having them as your holiday girlfriend / sugarbaby. Most of the time it's just making conversation though.
>>2866229
>It's possible they're hoping to meet somebody to get them out of that life
lol, only if they're reaching whore retirement age
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>>2866224
>retreats often skimp on protein cause meat is expensive
Anon there are tons of ways to get protein that isn't through meat, protein powder is stupid cheap in bulk and does a lot to help supplement a normal 3 meal a day meal especially with chicken being high in protein and cheap in Thailand. Same with fish.
Please don't tell me you're one of those "gotta eat healthy salads to get fit" braindead idiots
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>>2866297
Okay great. Now look at my original comment again. Anon asked about training retreats. I told him to budget extra for food cause their meal plan may be shit.
What is the point you are trying to make right now?
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>>2866310
The point is that the training retreats often have inclusive meal plans for you to follow... did you not read his post where is listed an all inclusive style place as example of what he is looking for? They will provide the needed protein and caloric intake for you, that's what you're paying for along side the training course. Like that's the whole point of a place like that lmao. Tiger is one of the most popular places to go for "learning to be a hekkin badass" and the other gyms are just copycats of varying prices.
If he is just looking to attend a gym+thailand for a "retreat" then the original points are correct, Thailand is a waste of cash and he should just workout at home building on a routine he won't abandon after 2 weeks of returning there. There is literally no use to spend all that extra cash to go to Thailand vs. building a small home weight set+pay for a year of a gym membership.
>I told him to budget extra for food cause their meal plan may be shit.
The whole point of those "retreats" is that you DON'T go and get extra food you retard, they want you to stick to the exact diet they lay out for you. Holy DYEL fatties here thinking "yeah... gotta eat bigger to get big".
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>>2866314
Nope. Just because it's marketed as all-inclusive training retreat doesn't mean their meal plan will be as is supposed to be. That is because they may try cutting corners in order to make more money. Therefore, their meal plan may be shit, and therefore, anon should be ready for the eventuality of having to spend extra money to supplement food.
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>>2866323
>Nope. Just because it's marketed as all-inclusive training retreat doesn't mean their meal plan will be as is supposed to be.
>to check every box I want (lodging, meals, classes on site)
Anon, he literally listed TIGER in his reply along with what I quoted. They take your weight, they give you a meal plan, they work you through that based off shit. I'd give benefit of the doubt to some stuff but Tiger is well known for it's overall quality which is why I don't understand the push back or "merely pretending" shit going on.
>Therefore, their meal plan may be shit, and therefore, anon should be ready for the eventuality of having to spend extra money to supplement food.
So if you have doubts from one of the leading retreats for this kind of activity, the other postings were correct. Don't bother with Thailand because it's a waste of money, you're paying 1350 for 3 months of something you know better about. Oh wait, these retreats take into account for all that stuff. Most these places will have people who are trying to get you to a specific BF% and amount of protein. Sure they may not give you only meat for protein, which is why I mentioned powdered protein which is why I was giggling at "quality protein".
This is like seeing those fat karens who come into the gym back in the USA get told a routine and spend 30 minutes at the gym only to see them waddle to starbucks or tropical smoothe screaming WHOO GIRL I NEED SOME DAT PROTEIN AND ENERGY!! I DUN WORK OUT HARD TODAY! HAHA! Yeah you're totally going to make it by not following the meal plan a dietitian is giving you for the exact thing you signed up for.
If you're not willing to follow the exact meal plan they create for you based on the quiz they hand you, just go to a gym in your home country. If you mom died that sucks, go spend a few months just clearing your head and then get back to serious workout or grab something like AnytimeFitness so you can workout here and there while traveling.
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>>2866399
Would love you to make a thread on /fit/ so people can laugh thinking you can just start doing Muay Thai. I don't have much of a dog in this race but it's not something you just pick up and do. TBF the anon even said he didn't really care about martial arts.
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>>2866401
Shut up faggot, go into the real world for once.
I've been doing Muay Thai for 1.5 years now already and did a month of that in Thailand. You have to start everything in the beginning, retard.
Also, let me tell you how the /fit/ progression goes because it sounds like you fell into the /fit/ trap:
>beginner: just start moving weights and anything will work
>intermediate: start autistically following programs/routines to progress
> experienced/enlightened: just push yourself, it doesn't matter what you do.
I'm in the best shape I've ever been in, and it's just from progressive building, even though right now, I'm not even close to how autistical I used to be with my training and diet since before.
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>>2866433
>>beginner: just start moving weights and anything will work
So if >>2865887
Isn't into anything like martial arts or Mauy Thai, then he's wasting his time and money like everyone has been saying? Man coomers really can't just read posts or let shit go if it's not about cooming in thailand huh?
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>>2866449
Lmao anon do you even know the context of what people are trying to say to the anon?
He's worried about the cost being high
He's not into martial arts
He's not stated any current workout routines
He's getting over his mom's death(?)
He posted the first thing that would come up on a google search
Recommending him a Muay Thai workout for what is 500/mo on top of plane tickets to Thailand is a dumb suggestion by every metric in the book given that. Someone said Anytime Fitness and just enjoy some spring in countries, that's probably the best advice since an AF membership allows you to gyms all over the world. Going to a strict MT workout routine when you aren't interested in that style of exercise or training is just asking for a bad time and to throw away cash. Literally the dumbest DYEL faggot would only recommend that if he didn't even mention his current workout routine or if he is even at SS.
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>>2863096
I'm looking to move to Thailand or Cambodia long term. I'm on a fixed income(SSDI) and I heard that these countries in particular will make my dollar stretch further.
I'm leaning towards Cambodia because it's cheaper. I would like to date local girls too, do they speak English? Is that a barrier? What's it like dating in these countries?
Any other things I should know, just mention what and I'll do the research.
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Just get on peptides, anavar, and maybe some test if you're low.
There is no reason not to fraud in 2026. Literally everyone else is.
If you dare to look like a normal healthy human man from the 1950s, you will be ignored except by fat single moms IN THAILAND.
You will not be able to date cute women. They won't be seen in public with just some average guy. It sucks but that's what the world has come to. You need to fill out a t-shirt.
The average Asian women cannot survive the social media embarrassment of being seen with (random slob). So that means you are stuck with whores or washouts, unless you achieve baseline fitness/appearance standards. Or are very wealthy and flex it.
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Spent $700 at nana last night and had an amazing time.
Not sure if the hotties came into town for Chinese new year or something but damn it was a high quality lineup all around.
About half that was on a crazy little spinner who wanted to deep French kiss while straddling my lap on repeat. I regret not taking her home but was wiped out from traveling all day.
She must have weighed 38kg, but put away 10 tequila in an hour without batting an eyelash. I suspected they were watered but they tasted full strength.
I took the advice of a friend of mind and shaved my beard and got a fresh haircut (despite my reservations), and compared to last time at nana it was like night and day.
I think I look like a faggot dork without a beard and longer hair, but clean cut us apparently prime for bargirls getting intimate at lightning speed. So I'll deal with it.
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>>2867124
You mean in 1 night? Nana is designed to extract money as fast as farang can spend it.
I stayed from 8pm to 1am, constant lady drinks and interaction/grabass, occasional bathtub side oogling and tipping them to bend over and etc.
Drinks for friends, tipping them to make out with each other or give each other lapdances, etc.
Basically I was going ham on purpose and signaling I was whaling. I didnt go there 'hunting for takeout'.
By comparison $700 at a strip club in north America is nothing. You can spend that 2x faster and get nothing, maybe not even drunk in some places.
Not saying it isn't a lot, just that its easy to spend that much if you dont give a shit.
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BTW I didnt see any Vietnamese on soi 4. Not even the usual deaf cuties. I strolled outside a couple times to look around but it was just blown out hags and those nasty uzbeks and some Africans with hilariously disproportionate asscheeks.
Dunno where they went, but its possible the poster who mentioned them was simply lying or an indian with shit taste.
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>>2867157
Im not sure that's accurate, it's more like an amusement park with lots of really fun rides, but it can be pricey to spend a whole day there trying the different rides.
I did see a little bit of table flexing, but some clubs aren't built for that.
Mostly my experience with nana has been: the more freely you spend and the more naive you act, the more wild and disinhibited the dancers are with you.
Its a shame they closed the short time hotels on site. Doing quick short times all evening used to be totally viable. Now taking a girl out is a whole ordeal.
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>>2867318
Sure but you can do that anywhere. Nana is like 18 strip clubs stacked on top of each other with varying degrees of nudity and full sometimes excessive contact.
There's something for everyone, and is a thrill just from meeting so many legitimately attractive women and having them crawl all over you.
You also see some really wild stuff. Its chinese new year still I think so lots of chinese, but in particular I saw small duo or trios of young chinese women coming into the bars and buying drinks for thai ladies and getting lap dancing and making out with them, like legit all parties involved were extremely into it and going at it.
I asked some of the dancers if chinese women like Thai women and they said they she had many chinese lady customer. Chinese ladies like Thai girls with big boobs and come to nana to play with their boobs...lol.
Im legit just repeating what the bar girls said. I saw it in person a couple times in a single night, so I guess its a thing.
I suppose open lesbian public degenerate behavior just isn't possible in China? Idk, but it was fun to watch cute chinks do body shots off a Thai bimbo with implants, while all giggling and squealing.
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>>2867330
My dude, this isn't complicated. Im saying I went there specifically to experience the whole thing, not just takeout the first chick I clicked with.
Its okay to regret an element of an evening in hindsight, but still have enjoyed everything else immensely.
Not everything is about rapid fire cooming. Sometimes you can just have a plan to go have a good time and see what happens.
For me, being "outcome agnostic" leads to much better outcomes than having a dead set plan.
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>>2863096
Apparently some westoid niggas work at bars and shit in like Pattaya and elsewhere. Is this an option for me if I wanted to do a few months to scrounge some cash together whilst living the nightlife lifestyle and network with tons of degens and shit? I was a very naive and sheltered inkwell up until recently, will this transform me into an ebin dark triad slayer? I'm tired of being a sensitive young man, I wanna do the sensitive young man to stone cold killer arc so I can be a cool and edgy grownup
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>>2867370
Pattaya is filled with boomers, jeets and the lowest scum of thailand. You'll easily get conned and fucked over repeatedly if you have no idea what you're doing. The night-life is still great, but its clearly slowing down and dying due to horrible tourists and the girls getting more ugly and worse. Do some research and stay away from the 15 tips guide bullshit on how to lick pussy and get girlfriends, just find a good soi to settle in and have fun for a week or two.
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>>2867370
Fun fact: A lot of the Westerners in places like Thailand make their living by acting as the trustworthy fellow countryman to newcomers, then scamming the shit out of them. Also, everyone who runs a business there can be safely assumed to be well connected to the local Mafia. If theres anyone you should truist less than a local, its an expat. Especially in Pattaya.
>will this transform me into an ebin dark triad slayer?
First off, thec chacen of acquiring a personality disorder by fucking hooikers is basically zero. That shit is normally caused by severe childhood trauma and/or physiological brain damage. Secondly, you shoudl seek help to get over the bullying or whatever causes you to think of being mentally ill as desirable.
Since youre not gonig to listen to that , do a week or two of Pattaya and then use the gained sexual experience and experience of (fake) female affection to be more confident around normal women and actually ask them out.
Since you're not going to listen to that either, you will just end up as yet another nerd whos still the same nerd as before, only that he now carries all his money to hookers and has a bunch of STDs. The ususal sexpat, who constantly scratches his head as to why normal people consider him bottom dwelling scum, refusing to see him as the Chad all the hookers are telling him he is.
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Holy shit this general is depressing to read, just a bunch of losers talking about banging hookers
Why the fuck is no one talking about travelling?
>>2867425
I found it in the middle tbf. Their salads tend to be too sweet but I like their stir fry.
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>>2867427
>Holy shit this general is depressing to read, just a bunch of losers talking about banging hookers
Yeah, I just got back from my trip there and actually liked the country. Lots of cool places once you leave the handful of designated Farang containment zones.
Even the vast majority of tourists isn't there for cooming. I don't get the fascination on here with it, talked to lots of people but the coomers were such a bunch of weirdoes and creeps I didn't feel like engaging.
No one here has so far given me any response how the fuck they reconcile their loserdom by completely bottoming out and travelling across the world to pay for some diseased rice peasant pussy.
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>>2867415
Well, jokes aside, I'm just some guy in his 20s who dipped out from home because mommy and daddy were not nice to me, my whole life, and I couldn't take it anymore alongside my existence just slipping away like sand between my fingers, so I scrounged together what cash I could and ran off to SEA, deciding living for a year is better than slowly dying for 20.
I've already been bouncing around the region for some months now though I have savings to last a few more months. Should probably actually figure out a way to support myself if I don't just want to be a homeless bum that gets deported back to the west to be a fentanyl addicted homeless bum.
I did change quite a bit personality wise in terms of my demeanor in the months of traveling I've done so it wasn't just a whim. I guess I matured since leaving after being sheltered way too long and tolerating people I always hated (I hated my family since I was 8, but didn't work the nerve to leave till a decade and a half later). For me it was either leave at all costs or rope at that point.
I was told recently that working at bars is an option as like a bouncer/promoter or whatever, and English teaching can also work for income (I have a bachelor's degree but not a TEFL, and I'm a native speaker).
Anyway, you guys are free to give advice or just laugh at me. Ilk try to figure something out regardless. Or maybe if I run out of funds without any stability I'll just take a shitload of mushrooms and have a blast before taking myself out.
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>>2867528
>and English teaching can also work for income
Then try that. I guarantee you will get scammed if you try the bars. Or look for a WFH deal, or for a foreign company who looks for someone with your skillset to work there. Actually learning Thai will increase your prospects a lot, not surprisingly. And is strongly advised if you want to stay there for longer in any capacity. Most (Sex)pats don't bother ever learning proper Thai, its an easy way to set yourself apart.
>For me it was either leave at all costs or rope at that point.
Frankly, working through your issues perhaps with a therapist is not a bad idea. Travelling is a great way to give yourself a boost , but the best basis for making it somewhere else is actually being able to function back home as well. Also keeps you from rushing the whole thing on a whim, which is what you're currently doing and also the reason why lots of expats return home as Yaba addicted bums.
>>2867591
>t. hangs out on r/Pattaya
Thailand cooming is the most reddit activity imaginable. I have never seen a bigger congregation of soiboys than when I visited Nana.
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>stumble around nana after walking from cowboy
>closing early for some reason, Buddha worship day who know
>run into the 5 foot 80lb spinner I used to relentlessly pound into screaming, squirting, love-confessing submission several times a week from 8 damn years ago
>still recognize the shape of her ass in jeans instantly from 50 feet away
>cock goes viagra hard like magic
>walk up to her
>again, literally 8 years since I saw her last
>despite that, squeals and jumps on me
>remembers my name
>she looks like she's barely aged a day (god bless asian women)
>hasn't gained a pound either
>take her home and fuck her of course
>its just as amazing as it always was with her back then
I fucking love this girl. Thank you Thailand you never fail to surprise me in the best ways.