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All things Taiwan. Work, nightlife, attractions, food, visas. Get in here Taiwan knowers.
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I'm actually applying for the public school program but I don't know Chinese. I want to find somewhere to chill and get a nice ltr gf but it seems from what I've read very hard. They will fuck the White guys but don't want a serious relationship.
What's Taipei like in general? Lots of wild subcultures and wild nightlife? Is it a cool place to live or boring af like Kuala Lumpur?
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>>2865123
The food in Taiwan sucks (relative to other E Asia destinations, in a vacuum its fine/good) but otherwise it has better English levels than Korea Japan and all non Tier-1 Mainland China. It is (or was) a good secret spot because it was not popular with tourists despite being very nice and accessible but that is less true now than it was 10 years ago.
>>2865126
I speak mandarin with a mainland accent and I deliberately play it up when in Taiwan because YES you will get reaction but no not a negative one just that you are a novelty and the girls like it
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No
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>>2865150
If you want to immerse yourself in any culture, its important to at least make an effort to learn the language. Or are you one of those people that travels just to blow all your extra money to feel like a rich person for a week?
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Anyone worked for pic rel? I'm just applying. Any good city recommendations?
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>>2865123
ymmv
only discovered some of the best stuff because locals dragged me out to it
you'd be surprised how many good restaurants and bars are either 3 floors up or down with nothing more than a tiny hand sized sign
they aren't trying for your money so if you're coming from a place where everyone will kowtow to your retarded whims its obviously going to warp some people's view
Unlike other economies dependent on visitors money, Taiwanese don't need you and have to put in effort simply to deal with you and your dumb foreigner ass, if you understand that fact you'll have a good time
>>2865238
There's not many Thai people in Taiwan and they all have normal jobs, feel bad for them they have that stigma because they're all decent people
t.drinks with Thais
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>>2865476
>they aren't trying for your money so if you're coming from a place where everyone will kowtow to your retarded whims its obviously going to warp some people's view
>Unlike other economies dependent on visitors money, Taiwanese don't need you and have to put in effort simply to deal with you and your dumb foreigner ass, if you understand that fact you'll have a good time
Bro you keep repeating this. Negative energy npc
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>>2865476
If you can't read Chinese, you're pretty fucked in Taiwan. Yes you can still get your necessities, but you won't be enjoying the best of what the country has to offer, and you'll probably be coping with a lot of cans of Taiwan Beer from convenience stores. Translate apps often give you gibberish results for wall menus, and even if they do give English words, you can't order by shouting an English word! The only way a non-Chinese speaking person without a local friend can order is having the cook come away from his station, walk to your side, and see which item you are pointing at on the wall menu (which may not even be at a level that allows items to be pointed at, sometimes I wished I had a fucking laser pointer kek). Very inconvenient and annoying for a people who pride themselves on workplace efficiency. The best dining spots you won't even be able to get a seat, much less a table, as a solo foreigner wandering around. Great Chinese restaurants are always fucking crammed with diners, and the harried staff have no time to explain the menu items to a foreigner, much less do so in English.
>>2865467
Facial asymmetry is deemed very unattractive by East Asians. Look at the mugshot on your driver's license; if your face isn't symmetrical, you're unlikely to have success with dating in Taiwan.
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>>2865537
A lot of women will treat you like a handbag and you need to accept that
Otherwise it's not hard to find a decent one if you are legit and staying long term, ignore the agitprop nonsense from other "people" here
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Taiwanons, what are my chances of finding a wife or gf?
>Pros:
>White
>Financially comfy
>6'1
>Athletic
>Post grad
>Good looking
>Green eyes
>Strong jaw
>Cons:
>42yo
>Bald
>No Mandarin skills
>Just an English teacher
How much ick do they feel with the LBH English teacher?
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>>2865644
You can be an English teacher and pull girls if you're young and nobody will care. Old, bald, and still working as a dancing monkey will not get you anywhere in developed parts of Asia unless you're settling for the absolute worst washed up women.
You'd be better off considering Cambodia.
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>>2865648
Hmm. But I'll take a 35yo, even a single mom. Maybe you'd consider that washed up? I'm ok with that.
I'm a state licensed teacher. I have money. I just want to chill though. Semi retired. But I'm probably gonna give heavy LBH vibes anyway ig.
I used to work in Cambodia. All over SEA. I kinda like the ultra clean, ultra modern, ultra safe East Asia though.
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>>2865116
I watched a woman cross the street as the wind blew her hair in all directions, over her sight. She continued walking undisturbed with perfect posture and defiance at a steady pace. She had so much dignity and will, and beauty.
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You don't need to know Chinese in Taiwan to have fun for a few weeks. It's only needed to date high quality local women. If that's not your aim, then you won't be disappointed. This holds true everywhere. High quality women expect being able to communicate with their partner...
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>>2865694
>Gross. Not interested in degeneracy
Ah so you're the life of a party, if you're not open to some basic social drinking once in a while to break into the community good fucking luck in any Asia country anon.
I'm not saying you have to go the club each night but if you're not open to at least meeting people in an open social setting like that, you've basically limited yourself off from a huge market.
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>>2865698
>You literally said the shitty hours of the bars. Like some 4am slampig who pisses herself before I fuck her.
My guy... I meant shitty hours because a lot don't open up before 4PM-6pm which can be meh depending on your life style. Who the fuck thinks they are going to have a realistic conversation at 4AM
>What one place?
Bars are common places for locals to meet foreigners and find someone they can use to practice english with often setting up dates and other stuff after.
Come on man this is basic knowledge, no wonder you are single you're social skills are of someone who's like 17
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>>2865709
>I know males encounter sexually permissive females in bars. Not actually the best place to meet someone for a serious relationship.
Again your social views are that of someone who is underage and can't drink. Bars and Pubs are viewed insanely differently in Asia than whatever club you went to once and assume all bars are this way. People going out after work for 3-4 beers to socialize and talk is completely normal, you're acting as if I am saying go party hard till the sun comes up.
A bar or pub is probably the lowest barrier of entry with most rinse and repeat options available. A church is good but everyone is going to be taken so hopefully someone has a fat aunt to marry
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>>2865713
>educating me on bar culture in Asia
Did you miss the part I said I've lived all over SEA?
You're thinking in terms of your own age group. Now tell me quality late 30s wife material can be found in bars and clubs. Hmm? Hmm anon?
I gave you credit for your church idea now sit down
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>>2865716
>How easy was it to get a GF/wife at home? Now take that level of difficulty but now realize you have no basic way of
You're saying Taiwan is the same difficulty level for White guys as their home countries but with added difficulty of language barrier?
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>>2865717
>Did you miss the part I said I've lived all over SEA?
Because you may have lived there but you're so socially inept it's actually baffling to me that you would turn your nose up to the obvious answer.
>Now tell me quality late 30s wife material can be found in bars and clubs. Hmm? Hmm anon?
Dude you're 42 and bald, your best bet is a bar where some 30 something office worker who hasn't had time for a BF is fighting against their biological clock for a financially secure guy to stumble into their life so they can focus on a mother role. I didn't say clubs, I said you are addressing bars as clubs and conflating the two.
>I gave you credit for your church idea now sit down
Anon you're 42 not 22 and not 32, 42. A church is a good social structure and good to go to, assuming you don't go to the cult ones, but everyone and their sister is going to be 20's and getting married. This isn't Philippines, Korea, or Thailand where a 40 year old that's financially secure is worth a decade or two age gap; it's taiwan where plenty of options exist you really don't have much going for you. No you being White, somewhat financially secure(whatever this means) 6'1 doesn't go far in Taiwan when you're 42 and bald lmao.
If you wanted a trad wife you should live a trad lifestyle.
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>>2865723
Anon, I didn't and am not saying, stay till you meet the 4AM bar hags who are sloshed looking for any kind of dick. Holy shit are you actually retarded? I am literally telling you go during the after work crowd to meet people, I know teachers can have odd hours that's why I said it may be weird to get to.
If you can't understand social drinking and then heading home around 9-10PM from the bar after a few conversations, you are literally too socially inept to meet any women.
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>>2865731
It's been beautiful. A swan show. But I've never tried a zesty little girl boss twink. I know you're thinking how to reply with your hands on your hips and your jaw jutting left and right.
Drop a burner email here, you little zest fest
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>>2865717
Anon, I get women usually date older but you're not exactly selling anyone on anything with your posting and just now sitting down for "needing the traditional wife" at this point in the game you're going to need to find a compromise.
>Now tell me quality late 30s wife material can be found in bars and clubs
You should be keeping all options on the table my guy, you closing down any options you possibly can have is a game ender. You're an English teacher that's not really a head turner of a career field nor something anyone respecting the salary coming in on that. Bald 42 year old and can't speak the local language with a career that can be gone in 6 months without a second thought isn't really a head turner.
>>2865650
>I'm a state licensed teacher. I have money
lol wow you get maybe 10-15% more than the random pino they brought in
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>>2865816
I told you I'm retired, dumdum. I'm just doing this for fun and a stable visa.
Stop nagging me. It really feels like autistic fixation. Let it go. I don't want to meet my wife in a bar. Stop freaking out about it ffs lmao move on
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>>2865633
For a foreigner Taipei is magnitudes easier living, but if you can integrate and speak Mandarin or at least learn then yeah Taichung is awesome
Everything has a price and tradeoff, if you are willing and keen then go for it. You'll have fun.
>>2865621
Lived all over Asia and its easy mode here hey, you'll be fine, but do need to understand, the fashion accessory thing is very real, there's a lot of women who have no real intention of a long term relationship yet having a western bf to show off gives them clout in their circles. I've learnt this the hard way more than once.
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>>2866008
Both are ok for a week, just to scratch any curiosity itch, and also use as an excuse ride the trains
but imo Taipei and the surrounding area are so much better for that. Taichung and Kaohsiung had really smelly manholes every 20 feet on most streets. Taichung lacks the nice green spaces, and it's hard to access the parks surrounding the city. I took busses and walked about an hour to reach them. Kaosiung has trains and a coast, but I tried hiking and it smelled like dog shit from the monkeys. I couldn't really enjoy these cities because it was always stinky. December Taipei air was a lot fresher imo. The air didn't cross my mind there until I returned and was grateful I didn't have to hold my breath so often
>Wake up at 11am
>Do whatever for 8 hours - go to Tamsui, makeng, Taipei zoo rain line, Keelung. You can cover a lot of ground. I love the south bit of Taipei and how estates merge into the mountains. It's so green there.
>Work from 7pm to 3am
>Sleep until 11am
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>>2866009
For a city of that size it definitely feels that way sometimes.
The country is small enough you can visit nearly anywhere in a daytrip so Taipei makes a lot more sense to live in, especially for a foreigner
>>2866011
New Taipei city has much better accommodation for the price. Taiwanese people claim they don't like big windows but every apartment with sunshine and windows costs 30% more so the market doesn't match what they say.
Newer apartments down in Xindian or up north in Beitou seem good value compared to in town.
There's other cheap areas like Songshan but not really any foreigners there
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How fucking cool would it be to be living in Taiwan when China invaded. No way I'd leave on a relief plane. Would be one of the greatest moments of my life. Watching one of the biggest historical events of the century live in front of your eyes.
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>>2866062
>How fucking cool would it be to be living in Taiwan when China invaded
Taiwan is more likely to crumble to soft power far before and land, sea, or air invasion.
>Watching one of the biggest historical events of the century live in front of your eyes.
Let's not kid ourselves you'd be running and gunning for a bunker unless they kick you out and tell you go fight.
>Would be one of the greatest moments of my life.
I'm sure your country is enlisting servicemen, go for it champ
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>>2866064
>Let's not kid ourselves you'd be running and gunning for a bunker unless they kick you out and tell you go fight.
I'm a veteran of the British Army you silly nigger. Why do people assume to know who anonymous posters are.
An invasion is unlikely but still quite possible
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>>2866068
>I'm a veteran of the British Army you silly nigger. Why do people assume to know who anonymous posters are.
Because you type like some retard who sat behind a desk if what you say is true.
>An invasion is unlikely but still quite possible
It's PR shit for as long as China doesn't need a huge PR win to quell unrest/uneasy within the country. Half the reason to take Taiwan is for it's infrastructure which Taiwan gladly states it's willing to blow at the first sign of troops on the beaches. Not to mention basically every country will condemn the action. Maybe after the next elections sure, but the most realistic "invasion" is akin to how HK was taken over- I mean made fully autonomous.
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>>2866074
>Because you type like some retard who sat behind a desk if what you say is true.
A wish to experience historical events firsthand is why I joined the army in the first place.
I understand patience and soft power will likely reclaim the island but as I come closer to moving to Taiwan, a nigga can dream
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>>2866062
At least there's an air defense bunker close by wherever you go but I think your larping as an adventure traveler would get old real quick under bombardment
Wish you well living in the hills begging your government to extract you when you had a months notice
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>>2867002
And you want to hang out when autonomous drone warfare comes to town? What bullshit.
I've never met a vet who likes actual war except the psychos who slipped through and those who never saw any action. Keep up the greenzone larping on a travel board though
There's a full scale replica of my apartment building for special forces to train on in the Chinese interior, I'm not paticularly keen myself and like Taiwan as it is.
So please off to hong kong you wannabe chicom, or if you want to see action may I suggest Tehran, at the very least you've got a civil war and 40,000 dead :)
It will be a fucking bloodbath multiples greater if shit goes down in Taiwan and no decent human being wants to see that
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To any /fit/izens currently residing in taiwan, what are some good cheap sources of protein? Milk is expensive and the only non-deepfried chicken i've come across are the breast filets at 7/11.
I asked my airbnb host for good places for groceries and he just told me 7/11. I get the impression most of the locals here subsist off of fried shit and boba tea most of the time since most of them look like theyre made of hot dog meat. At least all the walking keeps them skinny though.
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>>2867359
Oh shit. I'm moving from China to Taiwan. Sounds just as protein deprived. Here in China it frustrates the shit out of me. There is literally not a single piece of meat they enjoy as a main interest, it's always scraps of meat in something else.
I keep seeing pic rel on tiktok. You haven't seen it at night markets?
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If you want protein, get a Costco membership and start cooking your chicken breasts. They also have protein powder there. There are protein drinks and precooked chicken breasts available at 7/11 but they are obviously going to be more expensive.
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>>2867375
Where in China are you? Fish and meat mains are everywhere, unless you're at cheap ass back alley restaurants. Though the concept of a plain piece of meat cooked alone with zero seasoning or spices isn't really a thing. It's not common in Asia at all.
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>>2867407
anon, it's just thin slivers of meat combined with carbs and fiber. You come out if the gym, you want pure protein. I need 28g of protein every 3 hours I don't want a huge meal every 3 hours, 20% of which is protein dense.
You unironically and clearly don't lift
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>>2867359
go to carrefour and buy chicken breasts and milk. whole milk is not expensive in the supermarket.
you should also be able to get cooked/roasted or rotisserie chicken parts in carrefour unless it is a small one.
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>>2867375
I havent been to any night markets in kaohsiung yet as when i went to taipei last year i found them underwhelming and kind of gross. Trust me there is no shortage of fried chicken here though.
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I ended up getting a costco membership and was disappointed to see that milk and chicken there weren't particularly cheap. The free samples for liquor at 10am on a monday were exciting though and i was greeted by a 70+ year old woman saying "SANK YOU AND GOD BRESS YOU" in an uncomfortably southern accent when I walked in which made the trip worth it. Plus something about owning a chinese costo card just warms my heart. unironically
>Costco Card :l
>Costco Card, Taiwan :O
I'm hoping to avoid protein powders because I assume any local brands probably have heavy metals in them like the american ones do.
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I went today and bought a bento with chicken thigh in it for like 2 dollars since I arrived right after 1pm when they mark them down. i would say that after searching far and wide i think carrefour is as cheap as milk gets for an island with no cows on it but i just looked it up and apparently there are cows here they just cant lactate hard enough to feed everyone. maybe the government should start importing fat bitches
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For the last 6 months, I've been living in Japan on a student visa. While I did have a very rewarding experience, I'm choosing not to return for the 2nd semester of my school as I have no desire to try to "fit" in with japanese society and feel strongly with their sentiment that foreigners need to fuck off.
That being said, the idea of returning to the states makes me shutter. I have much more of an affinity for mandarian than I do for japanese and I hear that Taiwan gives off a vibe similar to Korea in that they don't care as much if you're a white dude roaming around, they just mind their business. In Japan, that is NOT the case and it irks the fuck out of me. Should I try doing a language school in Taiwan or something? I wanted to take a gap year anyways for work (worked the last 8 years in accounting) and I wanted to also see if there were opportunities to stay longer but in the case of Japan, it's not the place I want to be. But I've definitely realized that Asia and the walkability/cities/food etc are all things that click for me
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>>2867842
Unironically please keep us updated on the protein quest. I'm moving to Taiwan in a few months and it sounds like I'm leaving one protein desert and entering another. Kinda pissed. They don't have fish everywhere? It's a fucking island
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>>2867874
>I hear that Taiwan gives off a vibe similar to Korea in that they don't care as much if you're a white dude roaming around, they just mind their business. In Japan, that is NOT the case and it irks the fuck out of me.
Why do you care what some old racist Japanese boomer or incel guys think?
Just ignore, act like like a chad and fuck Japanese women, it won't irk you when you're balls deep in Japanese girls.
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>>2867842
>I'm hoping to avoid protein powders because I assume any local brands probably have heavy metals in them like the american ones do.
Oh boy do I have BAD news for you about fish in Asia then... you're overthinking this hard, keep in mind that was like 1-2 brands and was following only California retard mode safety concerns. Yes the same state that leagalized giving others STD's. Protein powder is fine drink more water, the vitamins you take and water you drink there is probably far worse.
>>2867876
GNC has protein bars, powder, etc. Seriously not hard to get proper protein, a pork bowl at Sukiya is cheap as hell McDonalds almost always has good breakfast deals. Without anon saying his protein goals hard to recommend anything big. Tons of shops have just full chicken or pork platters it's pretty easy to find what you need, you're overthinking it.
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>>2865148
Am I the only one that likes Taiwanese food? Everyone seems to shit on it.
Am in heaven in some of these dumpling joints.
Hotpot is solid, there's Jap-owned restaurants and izakayas all over. The economy buffets are stuff yourself stupid tier.
I don't get the hate for it, you can eat out all the time for not much with far healthier options here than anywhere else on Earth.
>>2867412
>I need 28g of protein every 3 hours
least deranged /fit/izen
Guessing you don't have a stove in your airbnb? Chicken breast from carrefour or pxmart is cheap
Without cooking equipment and trying to keep costs down I'd go the convenience store packaged chicken breasts and century eggs.
When I didn't have a kitchen would buy a few of those to put in the microwave with cheese on top (fuck cooking things in a plastic bag like they do in store), then on a sandwich with some lettuce and kewpie mayo, would be hitting over 30g protein for a small meal.
If you're willing to eat out then dumplings are protein rich, I pay 120 for ten pork dumplings which is 90% meat, Korean BBQ you can just sit there and solely eat meat no one will even blink.
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>>2868205
There's plenty of deep fried shit everywhere and some of the bakery/fried bread things obviously aren't daily foodstuffs,but on the whole I think it's very easy to eat healthy without a kitchen in Taiwan.
You actually get a serving of vegetables each time unlike a lot of Asia.