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>battombang and area
>Phnom Penn
>MAYBE KAMPOT (is it worth it if I'll backtrack to Phnom Penn - or maybe I'll just take a bus to HCMC)
>Either fly from Phnom Penn to Ho Chih Minh City or take a bus from Kampot
>HCMC and area
>Da Lat
>Hoi An (Maybe I need a cool place between da lat and Hoi An?)
>Hue
>Phong Nha - Ke Bang National Park (maybe)
>Hanoi (Use as base for a while to do a few days in Sapa, a few in Ha Long, a few in ninh Bình)
>Fly to Peneng/George town and chill there
>Ipoh
>Kuala Lumpor
>Malaca
>Singapore
>Singapore to Jakarta
Java part of my trip I don't really have planned. Of course I'll see Bandung and surroundings, Yogakarta and surroundings, probably explore east java by car. Any suggestions?

After that if I still have time I'll go to maybe East Timor, Sulawesi, Boreno or do 10 days visa free in China and call it a day and head back to the USA.

Any suggestions on this or things I should add or see etc? Also, I know temple fatigue is a real risk once I leave Bangkok and go temple hopping on the way to Chiang Mai then see a bunch there. Any of the temples I mentioned a let down?

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I will never understand people like you who do shit like this when you could get 100000x more culture, civilization, and spiritual nourishment by doing a grand tour of europe on our rails. I'm Danish and never once felt the need to leave my continent, let alone go to fucking Asia.

>or do 10 days visa free in China and call it a day and head back to the USA
Oh... makes sense. You're an American.

Planning like an old lady. No room for serendipity, chance, meeting people mood.
>urm, excuse me! Hacktually I have to leave tomorrow according to my itinerary!
Fucking dork travel

>>2866527
good for you

>>2866528
I'm not married to this plan. I just I'm planning to go this general route. I have no idea how many days I'm spending in each place, no idea if I'll hear about new places I want instead. No idea if I'll end up taking massive detours.

This is just the general direction I'm going and places I consider good places to stop.

>>2866527
Europe is fucking boring and overpriced

>>2866527
Have you ever considered that maybe people want to see something different and new?

Cringe tourist itinerary:
>maximum of 2 nights in a city before moving to the next
>plans out every single activity and exactly which days to do them
>probably takes guided tours, including of the city
>tries to see 5 countries in 14 days, brags about their country count.
>whole trip is a blur, just feels exhausted

The Chad traveler itinerary
>books at least 5 nights in a major city, which gives time to explore at a leisurely pace as well as some day trips
>may make a list of attractions they're interested in, but has a flexible schedule, just goes when it's most convenient. May get distracted by something else on the way but that's ok because you found a hidden gem.
>never joins a tour group, just takes public transport to the attraction on their own.
>takes it slow, likes to actually spend time in a country to fully appreciate it
>actually has fun memories of his experience to look back on that are more than just pics for instagram. Even made some friends

>>2866547
I'm planning on spending 10+ days in a lot of those cities. There's a few tiny ones that are literal bus stopovers.

I'm travelling for 5 months straight

>>2866520
Apart from a few interesting choices like choosing Kamphaeng Phet and Si Satchanalai over Sukhothai, most of your itinerary is peak Reddit, i.e. make a loop of all the places that other foreigners talk the most about, then predictably come back here to complain that long-term travel is pointless, SEA is overrun with tourists, everyone sees a visitor as a walking wallet to be squeezed dry, and there's nothing left to discover. Then another obligatory post about how you're so depressed now that you've returned to the wagecage and won't be able to travel for the foreseeable future.

Also, Lampang, Lamphun and Chiang Mai are all very close together. Lampang is pleasant enough, but you'd probably be bored by the lack of fellow Redditors around town. Lamphun is merely a suburb of Chiang Mai at this point thanks to the urban sprawl.

Be prepared to be disappointed after going from Chiang Rai province to Bokeo province. Laos is India-tier dirty, and has a general attitude of not really caring about your satisfaction.

>>2866527
Everything in Europe just seems so expected and predictable. The landscapes are so generically neat and placid that nothing hardly stands out. The people are so predictably cold and disdainful that you stop even trying to be polite with them. I got really tired of Europe after three weeks. Jacked-up room rates, extortionate restaurant prices, and some of the rudest people I've met in all my travels. I even had a Polish guesthouse owner cuss me out because his stupid self-checkin photos weren't sending through the Agoda messaging, and I had to have a fellow guest call him up to tell me how to get in. He was so incensed at this minor inconvenience that the next day when he came by to clean rooms and I asked to wash my laundry, he started shaking with rage and swearing at me. Eventually I started coping with a bottle or two of beer a day. Two nights max in each place and I was always ready to leave, because there was nothing for me there.

>>2866583
Where do you recommend I go then? Issan? Further North in Laos (I might do this just keep going up Nam Ou river).

Any secret hidden gems to de-Redditify?

Sorry OP can't help you and sorry everybody responding is an insufferable faggot. /trv/ has fallen.

>>2866583
I sometimes forget this website is mostly millennials because holy shit I've never heard of more braindead hipster take. Places are popular for a reason and vast majority of people enjoy them. Don't listen to this faggot OP do what you're planning to do and have a blast doing it.

Just looking at your itinerary makes me exhausted.

>>2866800
This is over 5 months so it's not like I'm moving every day.

>>2866601
The Paakse/Champusek/Tat Lo/10 000 Islands area of Laos is super chill and when I was there a while back there were nowhere near all the tubing flashpackers on drugs. It is peak motorcycle or bicycle country.

>>2866601
You have to explore the Golden Triangle SEZ. They have all the Vegas amenities now, even the Venetian gondola rides.

>>2866829
Dude that's too much... Moving every 90 days is bullshit enough, why the fuck would you cram all that into less. Maybe I'm getting old, 28 here, but man that's not the way to live. 6 months in a place is good because people start treating you like a local.

fuck man moving that much is going to make you old fast.

>>2866520
Taiwan for 14 days sounds like too much imo, never been but i can't imagine it would be too enjoyable unless you were really interested in China but aren't willing to go to mainland
>afterwards laos
damn

>>2866878
also pls rate
>~2 week trip
> 10 hr night layover in IST idfk what to do with
>2 days Khiva/Urgench
>2.5 days Samarkand
>short stopover in Tashkent
>3 days almaty KZ, koktobe, charyn canyon, kolsai
>3 days istanbul

>>2866829
That's fine so long as you're fine with it. I recently did the same thing but hopped all over the world instead of just SEA and I thoroughly enjoyed it. There's only one or two places I wish I spent a little more time in. Don't listen to retards like >>286687. We don't all have fuck you money or have dedicated our whole lives to travel.

>>2866981
This. To mop about one place you either don't really want to travel (what's the point of being sat in one place, you'll do mostly the same shit you do at home atp) or have extremely low energy levels/test. No wonder why some nerd thinks it's exhausting. Personally I find that if I don't switch it up I tend to start hating it hence why op has the right idea.

This is a legendary overland route. Since you're driving North Thailand, you have maximum flexibility, but temple fatigue is your biggest enemy

1. Thailand: The Road North

The "Let Downs": Kamphaeng Phet is historically significant but visually similar to Sukhothai. If you're tired, skip it. Sukhothai is the "must-see" for the park-like atmosphere.

The Gem: Wat Phra That Lampang Luang in Lampang is a fortress-like wooden temple—it feels totally different from the stone ruins of the plains.

Pro-Tip: Check road conditions on the Department of Highways Thailand site before the Mae Hong Son loop, especially during the rainy season.

2. Laos: The Slow Boat & Beyond

Nong Khiaw to Muang Ngoy: This is the highlight of Laos. It's much more rugged and authentic than Luang Prabang. Make sure to hike the Nong Khiaw Viewpoints for incredible karst scenery.

3. Cambodia & Vietnam: The Kampot Question

Kampot is absolutely worth it. It’s the "chill capital" of Cambodia.
Logistics: Don't backtrack to Phnom Penh. You can take a bus/van from Kampot directly to Ho Chi Minh City via the Ha Tien border crossing. Check schedules on 12Go Asia.
Gap between Da Lat & Hoi An: Stop in Quy Nhon. It’s a coastal city that hasn't been over-touristed like Nha Trang, featuring beautiful beaches and Cham towers.

4. Java, Indonesia: The Finale

Since you'll have a car in East Java:
Yogyakarta: Use the Borobudur Official Site to book sunrise tickets weeks in advance; they are strictly limited.

East Java Combo: Drive from Malang to the Tumpak Sewu Waterfall (the most dramatic in Indonesia), then head to Mount Bromo and Ijen Crater (blue fire).
Ending your trip: If you have 10 days left, Sulawesi (Tana Toraja) offers the most unique cultural experience in Southeast Asia. If you're exhausted, the China 144-hour visa-free transit via Shanghai or Beijing is a great way to see a "future city" before flying back to the USA

>>2867034
Thanks for this helpful info!

>>2866888
Checked. If I were you I'd try to spend more time in the wilderness of Kazakhstan, either camping or hiking. It looks really beautiful and remote; I'm sure you could see the big sights with day trips but there's nothing like camping. Probably kolsai lakes area.

>>2866871
Believe it or not, some of us posters here actually like to travel. We don't want to stay in one place for ninety fucking days. Yeah, some places are worth a longer stay because there are so many possible daytrips you can take, but if you don't skip over 99% of possibilities, you can never cover huge swaths of country, so in some ways it's better to hit the highlights and pretend that everything else doesn't even exist.
>>2866800
You sound like a heavy drinker who stays up way too late. Alcohol gives you lazy bones and makes exploring seem like a chore. Then because you don't have the stimulation of going places, you get bored and drink booze to cope, letting your health deterioriate in the process. Very common pattern among white people living in Asia.
>>2866878
You need to enjoy hiking to enjoy Taiwan fully. Many cities have bus systems which provide access to trailheads. But yeah, don't go to the country expecting the cities to be full of fun & leisure activities. They are very industrious and not geared toward pleasuring tourists.
>>2867034
>Kamphaeng Phet is similar to Sukhothai but less crowded with tourists...so that's why you should go to Sukhothai!
I wouldn't say Luang Prabang is not authentic. It's simply a relic preserved from the royalist age, and out of place in its gritty communist surroundings.