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I was genuinely surprised to hear that people disliked this movie.
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kek what a dumb zoomer
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normgroids and zoomers don't understand schlock. too stupid kek
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I love it, it's great
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I know it's supposed to be cartoon like and mindless fun but the scene of Jack Black getting burned alive by a ray gun on live TV, which his parents witness, seemed so harshly discordant with the tone of the movie. The father is just hitting the remote, trying to calm his wife down by saying "that didn't happen" over and over just seemed like such a genuine reaction of horror and disbelief.
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>i-i-it's so mean spirited!
why are the people here such weak bitches? it's fiction.
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I don't mind twisted, dark humor but it's just that this one scene stuck out against the tone of the rest of the movie. It'd be like seeing a light hearted song and dance segment in a Lars von Triers movie.
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Same. I know his character was set up as a stupid bully, doted on by his parents at the expense of his younger siblings, but the parents witnessing his brutal death just seemed too real. Maybe if they had worse actors playing the parents it would be different.
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>>218291306
It was ok.
Best parody, NSFW!
https://archiveofsins.com/data/r/image/1561/26/1561269498558.webm
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>>218291306
It's garbage.
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Cheap 50s scifi movies mog it.
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>>218291792
Context matters. It's in a comedy movie so it's inherently more comedic. There's very little difference between the beach scene in Saving Private Ryan and the helicopter scene at the start of Tropic Thunder, but one gets laughs and the other gets gasps.
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No, this was terrible because it's essentially a move for psychopaths
It's cool to make the aliens weird,but not comedically so, the aliens should have been portrayed as being fearsome making it a subversive comedy is a mistake, like SERIAL MOM on steroids.
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>original concept loaded with all kinds of crazy shit
>movie by contrast has almost none of that
>what little it does have is interspersed with numerous dull stretches focusing on the human characters being supremely uninteresting
You keep expecting more or for it to be actually funny but there's nothing. Sounds like some of this is burton's fault for being head up ass about the concept and some of it's the studio for fucking him on the budget.
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>>218291306
Hated it because it was basically lampooning 50s movies. They were products of their era and did what they could, and it worked for the time. The film basically treats them like they were intentionally shit. I also hate it because it takes what was essentially a horror card series and turns it into a comedy. I'd like to see a real adaption someday that doesn't treat it like a joke
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>>218291306
I love it, but it's very mean-spirited for a mainstream movie with tons of beloved celebrities. Most characters die, and most die horribly, including ones who don't deserve it.
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>>218291609
The complete opposite. Every so often there are “What are some actual right wing coded movies” threads and I always think of Mars Attacks.
1) aliens threaten American heartland (Kansas)
2) Professor (academia) tells President that they come in peace
3) Hippie releases dove of peace and dove gets incinerated
4) Only country music (pure white culture) can defeat the aliens
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My theory on why Mars Attacks was disliked, psyops by people in war with Iran
the marsian are these people
>small
>self-absordant
>looks intelligent but acts without emotions
>looks very ugly
>they're cut
>they say ack
>focused on taking over land
>kills everyone
>science experiment where they try to tranny people
>afraid of wagner and other loud operas
need I say more?
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>>218291335
> parody of a cheap 50s scifi movie
Not a valid defense of the film.
It lacked any gravis for it to be satire.
Lacked any actual jokes to be a farce.
More of a Burlesque Travesty.
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>>218291580
> That twisted sense of humor is not for everyone, so I'm not surprised some people hated this movie.
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>>218291508
The tone of Mars Attacks the franchise is comedic sadism.
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>>218291306
Mike and Jay saying it's trash and they didn't understand it being a homage to B-movie schlock is really when I realised they had both lost the plot a bit. They've had absolutely shit movie/tv show takes since.
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>>218291306
It's peak normie filter.
It's like the Stanley's Cup episode of South Park, often rated one of the worst episodes of South Park of all time, while in reality, it's probably one of the top 5 South Park episodes if you have a dark, "edgy" humour taste.
I remember showing Stanley's Cup to a sort of house gathering of fellow Uni students years back and literally everyone but me thought it was fucking horrific and the worst thing they've watched (Meanwhile I was literally crying from laughing so hard since I hadn't seen the episode in years)
Mars Attacks is just innocent people all being absolutely annihilated in comedic fashion one after the other. It's absolutely hilarious if you enjoy cartoon level violence and the constant idiocy of the humans who try to always reason with the Aliens who are clearly sadistic sociopaths taking absolute glee in their murder and destruction, but if you are a normie, the entire movie is just mean spirited.
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>them like they were intentionally shit.
Have you seen Ed Wood? Yes. They WERE intentionally shit. People don't understand we didn't have Internet back then. TV was if you had money and it still sucked. Radio was still big. Movies were still the new big medium, especially since going into sound and better editing and production. Movies were churned out at a high rate, low budgets, low production times, 5 guys smoking cigarettes on a set with a few actors. Especially for the SLOP Scifi genre. That shit was for RETARDS and CHILDREN, was the the sentiment at the time. It wasn't until the 60s that people started going "Oh, what the fuck this is cinema ". Scifi was literally the cape shit at the time. Lost in Space, Star Trek, Planet of the Apes, and 2001 changed the sentiment, most likely The Twilight Zone kicking it off in 1959. Which is ironic because it was basically the EC Comics style content that America at one point decided to ban and censor years before. Yeah some of them were better than others but it was really shlock and an exploitation genre. What if this woman was GIANT?? What it aliens were.. GIANT ANTS?? What if... GIANT SEA DRAGON WAS REAL??
For me its honestly one of Tim Burtons' bear films.
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That's why I kinda love RLM. They genuinely have plenty tier tastes for TV and movies, and they talk about their opinion on what they watched but I 100% understand that I do not have to actually believe that they are right or that I have to agree with them. They've admitted to not having watched so many classics, and it's shocking but funny.
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Yeah I didn't like it, it felt gross and idiotic in a childish way, and cynical, like it's just these aliens going around killing people in cartoonish ways. I look for something a little more than that, it's just shallow and has nothing else to offer outside of pulp comic tier violence and black "humor".
There's a crowd of moviegoers that enjoy schlocky pulpy flicks, this is for them and them only
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>movie has 50 different characters
>Jack Nicholson plays two of them
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Watched it in the theater. I didn't hate it but I have no memories of it.
So this movie is based on this weird violent "comic book" world printed on collectable cards. Like you would buy a set of cards and there would be a vignettes on each card, one side has a comic book illustration and the other side has a text story. Sometimes you needed multiple cards to get an entire little story. I never bought the Mars Attacks cards themselves but I bought a different similar card series from I assume the same company about dinosaurs being transported into the modern world and killing people. It must have been bought on extreme clearance because it's not the kind of thing kid me would normally buy and I remember having like five copies of each card. It was all very violent and bloody which was the appeal. I guess the whole thing was a bizarre way to avoid the comics code authority rating.
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What is this? Did some new reddit video essay explaining how this movie is mean and hurt my feefees drop?
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>>218293206
Agreed. Even for a weak Tim Burton movie it's extremely bad. It absolutely fails at capturing or parodying the tone of old sci-fi schlock and its jokes are Scary Movie 2 levels of lame. Even things like the way the aliens are CGI instead of practical props make it utterly soulless. Yes, I 'get it' but no, it's not even mildly amusing.
It doesn't come close to something like Starship Troopers which is far superior to it on every level.
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>>218298504
Dinosaurs Attack!
Another kino series from Topps. Garbage Pail Kids, Wacky Packages... Total Kino™ back when a kid could be happy with a bunch of printer cardboard.
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I think this somewhat nails why it's so unappealing. It's not that it's 'too dark', but rather the things it's trying to make fun of and the way it does this are so stupid and petty that there's no satisfaction in it at all. It's like some dude thinking he's funny for making fun of retarded people by making retard faces or something like that.
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Filtered. Its over the top but amazing.
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I loved it as a kid. Only thing that tripped me up was the head transplant Chihuahua. Wtf is this thread, I get the posters saying it's not funny, but what is going on with the faggots acting like it's traumatizing or mean spirited or whatever?
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>>218291306
Millennials are scared of it
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>the bad guys brutally murder/abuse/experiment on people
>"NOOO YOU CANT DO THAT"
Id lie if i said some of the scenes didnt make me unconfortable as fuck when i first watched it as kid, BUT THATS THE POINT YOU FAGS. The aliens are literally inhumane
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Burton originally wanted to do Dinosaurs Attack, since he lost out on Jurassic Park, but when it finally came out, they decided there was no way they could compete with it.
Then other studios started coming to the same conclusion and that's how Jurassic Park ruined dinosaur movies forever.
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>Ed Wood was INTENTIONALLY bad, acktually
How retarded do you have to be to not understand Ed Wood?
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The plot and look is pretty much a one-to-one parody of Earth vs The Flying Saucers, but here's the thing:
In that movie, that's a scene where the main character annoys the aliens, so they abduct his father in law, suck out his brain, and then drop his gibbering remains into a forest fire right in front of the protagonist and his wife... And they do it just to ruin his morning.
There is NOTHING in this 'wacky' 'parody' that is HALF that insane.
It fails even as a mean-spirited parody.
https://youtu.be/W7oftuSN29U
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I don't watch video essays on media and I certainly don't parrot their viewpoints. I also never used the word "mean" in my critique of this movie. I've watched and read plenty of things over the years in which many more characters and more innocent characters have been wronged or brutally killed. I am only commenting on the tone of this movie being wildly inconsistent and not in any sort of way that's endearing or entertaining. Someone else in this thread summed it up nicely; it had the spirit of a kid burning ants with a magnifying glass. I understand that not everyone feels this way, but there are clearly a lot of people who do and who experienced the same jarring emotional response to a movie that felt like it was written by a psychotic third grader.
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I feel bad for this kid because I assume he, like most teenagers, grew put of this phase and now has to live with this artifact of his cringey, edgelord period existing on the internet into perpetuity.
Those that didn't grow out of it will remain unashamed and can continue to enjoy Mars Attacks.
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>>218291306
its great, dont take seriously and you will find its a great movie,you gotta be a fucking retard to hate Mars Attacks.
official thread song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBuk1HXcz1k
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>It was shit on purpose
Total Millennial Death
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I find it very very strange no one has mentioned the people who survive in the story are the more grounded, less cartoony characters, you know the people who seem like good people. The ones who get lasered are almost all terrible people with some sort of flaw.
People who are now saying this movie is "mean" should take a look at the film as a whole and maybe try to understand the point of it in the first place, to show people eating shit and stuff getting destroyed by lasers. The grand mother laughs and yells "HAAA THEY KILLED CONGRESS" which is pretty indicative of the feeling this movie is going for.
Specifically Jack Blacks character is a sub level IQ jar head who is dumb enough to think he is gonna run at an alien and kill it like a hero (Hubris) and the gun jams or the clip falls out (I forget which) which is fitting for that character and as a gag. I think anyone who finds that mean is most likely from the United States and a faggot however one is not mutually exclusive to the other.
His death looked awesome and the skeleton collapsing was rad
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Its super iconic. I wish I had the cards. IDW comics were giga based retards and published some new comics and reprinted all 55 cards as single comic covers. Insane.
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>>218291306
The trailer for it played when I went to see Space Jam as a kid. It was very violent and scary and not child appropriate. I had nightmares until college about it, until I finally watched the movie and realized it's actually kino.
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I liked how the movie proved General Decker was right all along, his character who under current general sensibilities would be labeled a warmonger is the only one who sees the aliens for what they really are and pushes for their destruction almost from the beginning, not that attacking them head on would have amounted to anything but he was the wisest of them all
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This movie scared the shit out of me as a kid.
We rented it from blockbuster, and I tried to watch it, but I couldn't handle it. I remember being so upset I went to play goldeneye to calm myself down and it didn't help.
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My mom was concerned for me since I watched the film 1-2 times per week for a period of almost two years when I was like 9-10 years old, I just thought it was fun and kino. It had the right amount of dread and schlocky humor at least for a kid.
In hindsight I might be on the spectrum.
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I remember when I was a kid and this movie was premiering on tv, I convinced my parents to let me stay up late and watch. I was so hyped I started to teasing my sister saying I would learn how to fight a alien invasion and wouldn't teach her, until she started crying. I got grounded and haven't watched the movie to this day.
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This. I grew up with the dinosaurs attack cards, but they were always supposed to be mean spirited and make you feel sick to your stomach as a kid.
The real shame is that Burton bought Dinosaurs AND Mars attacks as a package deal, but because mars attacks didn't set the world on fire he never got greenlit for another X-Attacks movie.
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>I don't understand the hate
Look at burton's filmography to that point.
>PeeWee
>Juice Ghost
>Batman 89
>Edward penishands
>Ed Wood
All of those save MAYBE Ed Wood were all MASSIVE hits at the box office, and critical darlings.
People were expecting something at the caliber, and they god a weird plot-less movie with no real main characters that leaned really into his dark humor sensibilities.
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The huge cast was a plus I think, and the problem is they didn't want to commit to having an A story, which is fine, you can make a movie of b and c stories, but they never really bothered to make the B and C plots go anywhere or feel meaningful, so it just ends up feeling kind of lopsided.
Also the weird shit where Jack Nicholson plays 2 different characters, I know he originally wanted to play ALL the characters in costume, which could have been fun and weird, but when its just 2, it feels more confusing than anything, and you spend half the time wondering if it is jack playing two guys, if it means anything, why they're doing it, and you spend more time thinking about it than the movie does, so it feels more disappointing than anything else.
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Tom Jones? He's Welsh, not Eyetalian. What do they even call Welsh people as slurs?
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Its just indepdence day but good.
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He's right tho. All eceleb trash must be ACK ACK'd.
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This was my reaction to Return of the Living dead. people called it a "dark comedy" but that movie filled me with absolute dread with just how hopeless it was. I enjoyed mars attacks and it didn't scare me. Go figure.
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It’s a movie based on the trading card game. I loved the movie and for some reason the cows on fire in the opening scene freaked me out as a kid. I honestly would like an R rated version with all the sick experiments, gore and dark humor the trading cards had. The problem is it would cost money and be a risky property. Also maybe have Bryce Dallas Howard, Taylor Swift and Christina Hendricks get captured and have depraved experiments done to them. Like capturing a group of African men and making their cocks even bigger, and forcing them to fuck them and fill them with cum, repeatedly trying to get them pregnant over and over again.
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For me it's the part where the lady has her head swapped with her dog. Just a little more disturbing than I would have expected from this film.
But scenes like that and the jack black death make the film better.
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No he doesn't. Well, maybe Taytay is a trash choice. I would go with Jessica Chastain instead.
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She was always my favorite character !
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>It's a very mean-spirited film in general.
I agree and I'm a fan of the cards and the 90's comics (which actually treated the concept with respect). The cards were supposed to be legitimately horrific but in the film when people die it's supposed to be funny, except it's not the humor is fucking dreadful which can all be put on the jerkoff who wrote the screenplay since he was heroin addicted nepobaby who had no idea what he was supposed to be satirizing.
This movie also clenched a theory I'd had about Burton that he can't judge a script to save his fucking life.
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>What do they even call Welsh people as slurs?Welsh.
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>>218291306 (OP)
I like Burton slops, but this one is pretty unfunny. Furthermore, the ending was stolen from Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.
https://youtu.be/A2JCMaUGS8U
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>>218297545
Ed Wood legitimately thought that he was making art with his movies. That they were going to be big hits. Nobody sets out to make a bad movie on purpose (well, until the late 90s-early 2000s when jackasses decided to make "meta" movies because they watched 'Scream' and thought to themselves "Yeah, I could do that too").
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Yes and no. The thing is, movies like those Ed Wood made were bad because he was a bad director, and his films were considered terrible even by the standards of the time. Meanwhile, movies of a similar tone, like Creature from the Black Lagoon, were considered classics because, although they might seem laughable to you today, it were impressive back then. Long before 2001 became a milestone for SciFi, there were already movies like The Day the Earth Stood Still.
The problem is that when you examine them with today's perspective, they appear as minor, low-budget films. What makes Kubrick different is that he was ahead of his time, and his films have aged remarkably well, almost in line with the cinematic techniques of the 1970s, as well as the New Cinema movement, which established many of the technical and narrative codes of what we understand as cinema today, compared to what old Hollywood was like.