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These types of protagonists only worked for this very specific period in western history (the 70s -> early 10s) where you had a generation of retards who were patting themselves on the back for "breaking gender norms" and basking in the glory of the future that they were creating.
Older generations saw women LARPing as men as ridiculous, and we're already at the point where modern generations see it as ridiculous AND insufferable. It's only nostalgia that prevents us from applying it retroactively. These types of protagonists will never have a market again in our lifetimes.
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>>218294638
If you had thought about it instead of living in blank slate liberal lala land, we wouldn't have gotten the 2010s and the west would be in a much better place right now.
Men and women are not the same. The hostility is growing because the myths of the 80s and 90s are manifesting more and more as dysfunction in the real world. One of the responses is that people are reconstructing the feminine ideal that was deconstructed by the boomers. Instead of being trapped by nostalgia and trying to return to the dry well of the 80s, what we need is a supercharged version of what we liked about it. Screw individualizing the resistance to the feminization of society. We need to just admit that feminism itself is the greatest mistake that we've ever made.
And screw protagonists like Ripley. If you're going to have a female protagonist (and they should be in the minority for action works), just lean into the ludicrousness of it and make her hyper-feminine.
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>>218294598
>pic not related
She never assumes control or dominates any men. The only time she 'steps up' is literally when every male is incapacitated and she's the last one left alive to save Newt. And even then, she doesn't fight with physical might or prowess, but just pilots a loading mech. Furthermore, she doesn't Rambo her way in. She basically spends the entire climax in retreat, running for her life and trying to escape.
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>>218294598
Sigourney was beautiful and totally convincing as a tough woman. You need to touch grass chuddie.
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>>218295799
If this movie came out in 2026, it would bomb horribly, and you're delusional if you think otherwise.
If the industry wants to know what went wrong, well, here's the answer. As for how you can get back there, you can't. The mythos that allowed movies like this to succeed was dispelled hard by actually having women in charge and in combat roles, proving one of the core principles of every flourishing civilization in human history correct.
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>>218296050
Leeching off of nostalgia is the one exception.
But it has diminishing returns, as many franchises have learned. This is a dying beast.
>RE9
Has Leon.
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>>218294598
homo ripley wasn't a girl boss, like the other anon said. if that movie was remade now they WOULD make her a girl boss and it would suck. she would be telling the marines what to do from minute 1. she wouldn't need hicks to teach her how to use the gun, she'd already know how to fire it. all gay stuff from modern movies that thankfully can't ruin 80s kino like aliens and terminator.
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>>218295061
Magatards need to find a new website if all they wanna do is cry about things that trigger them when they talk about literally anything. The actual channers are trying to discuss while these little babies come here to say nigger like a 12 year olds. their inbred asses would never actually do anything that'd get themselves beat the fuck up irl in an instant. They're not tough, they're not smart, they're mostly just loud and all you gotta do to make them go away is just bully them. No debates, no fact checking, you don't need any of that. They chimp out and run away every time.
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>>218294638
It's also a clear sign of modernist brain rot. Motherfuckers impose (((current thing))) on the entirety of history.
>>218294953
Oh hey, someone who has actually watched the fucking film. Neat.
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Go back, invader
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zoomer thinks alien was the first girlboss film lol…
https://youtu.be/pEorYcjfw_0
https://youtu.be/0h3r3_nFGmA
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>>218300181
Holy, cope, Batman!
>>218300202
>U MAD
kek
Concession accepted, activist
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>>218294623
Ripley is the opposite of a girlboss
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>>218294598
Ripley wasn't larping as a man. She was a pissed off mother. Everyone understands the maternal instinct. That shit is timeless
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>>218300167
In fact this site went to shit in 2016. You idiots attracted every single shill, jeet, Twittard/Redditor screencapper and glowie in the internet. 99% of whatever gets posted here is utter crap thanks to you. Not even funny shitposting happens anymore.
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>>218295892
>was dispelled hard by actually having women in charge and in combat roles, proving one of the core principles of every flourishing civilization in human history correct
Those russian empresses and snipers gals weren't real then?
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>>218294906
Posts like these just reveal how well the "divide and conquer" strategy worked. You ignore the actual reasons the movies are so horrible nowadays i.e greed, laziness, nepotism because it's easier for you to simplify the issue to "whores forgot their place".
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>>218302360
Faggots/grifters be like "the reason everything is so shit nowadays is girlbosses. Just girlbosses, not bad writing, cheap nostalgia, soulless cinematography or annoying contemporary politics shoved in where they don't belong."
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>>218302644
>Gamedevs started listening to feminists
Got any ACTUAL, REAL SOURCES for that?
Other than repeating it like a mantra since GG, of course.
Fuck man, just say it that you want women to stay in the kitchen, instead of all the extra steps you put into it. Alt-right is such a fucking joke with their "values" and utter inability to talk them straight.
Bunch of fucking pussies.
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>>218302684
Nta The last of us part 2 you dumb fucking moron. They even brought on a notorious kike cunt to hand hold the Israeli kike on good women writing... and kicked off the guy who probably quality controlled that shit from the first game. It's still absolutely ridiculous that a combat medic was months pregnant and sent to on duty, fiction or not. That's how deluded these niggers are, and so are you. Fuck your dads husband you ugly mutt and go get a GF you incel trash :)
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>>218302258
>greed
lets make movies no one wants to watch
>nepotism
lets make our family famous by putting them in movies no one wants to watch
>laziness
this is the only one that works. they know it doesn't matter if people watch or not so they just go through the motions.
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>>218294598
>a generation of retards who were patting themselves on the back for "breaking gender norms"
That wasn't really a thing until around 2012 when the political left and academic feminists in particular really ramped up their culture war. It's why you had someone like Jennifer Lawrence claiming to be the first female action hero with her Hunger Games movies or Star Trek: Discovery's Sonequa Martin-Green claiming to be the first black lead in Trek. That 2008-12 period is when the left really unleashed the forces of cultural polarization.
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