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Why don't American filmmakers have the guts to tell stories this dark?
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>>218298639
the audience didn't like it
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>>218298708
Many such cases
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>>218298639
I think they just want something with more meat and meaning than torture porn.
Ie. picrel
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>>218299308
I think you watched too long ago and forgot how the whole thing goes. What you think that was, romance, drama, mystery? It's angsty from the get go with the whole dream thing and "something bad is going to happen", then it happens and the guy can't let it go. Was the last part a comedy for you, where the perpetrator slowlt torture the guy even more? Maybe you should check if all the screws in your brain are properly attached.
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>>218299548
Are you going to share your opinion? Because to me, it feels like a film designed to make the audience suffer, just in a very different way from Hostel or Saw. It’s far more intelligent and the result is much more powerful, like a horror movie without a single drop of blood or a jump scare. I don’t think it’s bad at all. On the contrary, I like it a lot. Even the American remake holds up pretty well at least until the dumb ending.
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>>218299123
I love hiw it was done by Blumhouse which prides itself for its "subversive" storyline like "The Invisible Man" tagged on the poster with its feminist take and it whole "generational trauma", "structural racism is the real horror",etc... and yet the studio still shy from the real subversion that would have come from faithfully adapting the original movie including the original ending
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>>218298639
I don't get what's so grim dark about this. It's just a movie and stuff like that happens almost every day. If you can't cope with that you better be a muslim or else you'll go insane.
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>>218299123
remember when the fag who made this said he changed the ending because in American culture we never view ourselves as completely powerless? and he acted like that was a bad thing?
Europeans are fucking cucked
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>>218299123
Why is there an entire European genre that's just
>dude let people murder you
>getting murdered is based
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>>218301434
this just makes it even funnier
>Amerimutts would fight back if a dude tried to murder them
>how uncouth
>we don't do that in EUROPE
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>>218301559
So why do Americans ever get killed/aducted/raped/go missing? Why don't they all just fight back and win?
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This movies original UK ending was considered too scary by American studios so they had to create a special alternative happy ending for the American release.
They are so pathetic
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>>218301734
>American audiences are viscerally repulsed by nihilism
>this is a bad thing, apparently
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>>218301559
>dude let people murder you
>getting murdered is based
you're completely missing the point
the original version of >>218299123 actually have the exact opposite message; sure the spineless guy ends up getting himself and his wife killed but the point of the movie is that if he had fought back earlier and acted more forcefully it wouldn't have happened
sometimes depicting a sad and depressing ending is the best way to get the message across and to induce people to act
I also like characters fighting back for their lives and hopeful endings; a little optimism is always good but sometimes in us movies there's a tendency of over optimism to the point hat it becomes unrealistic or even cringy; in some of these movies the characters don't just fight back , they overpower dangers and odds they actually wouldn't be able to survive irl like for example the Nobody movie with Bob Odenkirk where the titular nobody turns out to be a one man army and now you have plenty of american men (often boomers but also from other generations like in this thread) who sincerely believe they are action heroes in the making and that they would be able to single handedly mow down entire armies of terrorists and criminals irl if given the chance
Ultimately it's not very different from the modern girlbosses in movies that /tv/ rant about so much ; like I pointed out >>218300617 even a studio known for its woke subversions kept the happy heroic ending
Don't get me wrong, I also love the male power fantasies and action movies but that shouldn't lead us to a total break with reality
Sometimes depicting the stark reality of a tragedy or a horror can be a powerful spur to hope for change
Neither genre of movie should be rejected but both should be valued for their respective strengths
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>>218301734
The second one was also horrendously bad and disowned by the director even though he agreed to do it for a wad of cash that wasn't even that big. If you sell out and then have the gall to complain, you should be loaded into a catapult and used as siege artillery.
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>>218298639
Breakdown (1997).
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>>218298708
You now remember this movie
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>>218300744
The same reason why you make movies with happy ending while your whole nation is a ZOG infested shithole filled with violent and criminal browns and blacks who make your life miserable, we all like to imagine how it is to live in the complete opposite.
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>>218307029
if you're gonna make a bleak fucking movie, make a bleak fucking movie and don't pussy out on the ending.
I say this as someone who thinks nihilism is completely fucking retarded but I find it even more retarded not comitting to an idea 100%
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>>218298639
Abduction and murder stories are fairly common in all cinema, not sure why you would single out this one, but as a film it has other problems.
I like the villain and I think he is explored well, but the main character is boring and most of the middle part feels like filler. It tries to be philosophical by having characters outright say something "thought provoking" yet doesn't really elaborate. The plot twist is good but it can't save the film, it could work great as a short film.
I think a lot of films get too much credit just because they're European so I guess viewers feel more "cultured" watching them.
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you have absolutely no idea what nihilism is. stop yapping
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>>218300622
there was nothing dark about it
PSA and corporate-financed education films always felt weird like this, just go check out all the public domain ones for Hormel and other brands that Rifftrax have made fun of
Romero's estate played that shit up for marketing to trick people into seeing an otherwise boring corporate PSA
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>>218307029
Some asian countries have it too, ie Korea. In the end it's all propaganda, our true rulers finance what work to keep the masses quiet: some countries enjoy Marvel slop, others nihilism. Whatever keeps your mind from turning on them.
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