*a SPIC child

He had to poison that child. It was coming right at him.

>>218299958
Why did he do it? Did Brock win at the console game?

>>218299893
These threads would be so much funnier if they shat on actual characters that Predditors worship like Mike or Saul
If anything Walt is basically portrayed as the devil when he isn't even that in the show

Why is this treated as one of the worst things Walt did, both in-universe and to fans? He gave the child a tummy ache so he could make Jesse stop being retarded and save their lives boo-hoo

>>218299997
Jesse wasn't in any danger.

What a monster. He choose to give a child the flu for a couple of days instead of his entire family getting murdered

what happened to brock after his mom got shot in the head

*lets your meth junkie gf drown in puke*

>>218299939
This made it okay. The only thing that would have made it better would have been if it had been a niglet.

>>218300009
He raped Marie

>>218300002
Retard, Gus doesn't work with junkies and he was already planning to replace Walt who was far more stable than Jesse from the start
Gus basically toyed with Jesse to make him think he'd be accepted but once he got a new cook to figure out the recipe Jesse would be taken out, both as revenge for Gale and because again he's a junkie who knows too much

>>218299939
Zamn... I KNEEL

>>218300031
>he was already planning to replace Walt
Yea. With Jesse.

>>218299997
Because the kid was innocent, everyone else was part of the game or a junkie whore.
inb4 plane

>>218299975
He had to get it on

>>218300062
No? He originally wanted nothing to do with Jesse and wanted Gale to replace Walt, that's why he tells Gale that he only has a week to learn the recipe (obviously Walt's cancer wasn't going to kill him that quickly, even Gale understands that Gus does not want to deal with Walt and only wants the blue meth)
Walt saves Jesse's ass, had he not intervened Jesse would have been taken out by Gus as revenge for the two dealers who took out Combo
And after Gale died there's an extremely obvious implication that Gus is doing the exact same shit he did with Walt to Jesse, feeding his ego while trying to extract the recipe before eliminating him, Walt and their families
Unlike Walt who saw through Gus, Jesse was too much of a fatherless retard to see that Gus and Mike didn't give a fuck about him
Have you even watched the show?

>>218299893
wouldn't the doctors have figured it out quickly if it was just a flower instead of ricin? The FBI said the doctors didn't have a clue

>>218300072
So are Walt's family? You do realize Gus literally told Walt that he'd murder everyone including the children
And don't tell me Walt could have stopped it because Hank would have inevitably continued his investigation which would either end with him dead, him finding out and in turn Gus murdering everyone or Walt seeming suspicious trying to stop Hank and the entire thing crumbling down
Walt didn't even want to hurt Brock, it was the last thing he could do after Jesse's retarded ass rejected any idea that Gus was manipulating him and Skyler had spent all the money on Ted's bills meaning he couldn't use the Disappearer to leave and get a new life

The kid was gonna become a gang criminal anyway in the future, he ABSOLUTELY had it coming

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>Nooooo Docta White you heckin' killed people, that thing that I was prepared to do multiple times and likely have due to peddling incredibly addictive and dangerous drugs, noooooooooo!

>>218300503
He literally tried to get the former addicts in his therapy group back on crack. He's not le hecking good person like reddit claims

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>>218300106
>Jesse was too much of a fatherless retard
He even had a dad, too. One who provided love and material support his entire life. Just one who wanted him to stop using meth. A very reasonable request of any son. But methheads gonna meth. So he went and fell in love with any older criminal daddy he could find instead. Jesse was pathetic.

>>218299975
Using the blue shell in Mario kart is a self defence situation, there was nothing we could do

>>218300914
Yeah lol, it's funny how people genuinely defend Jesse because his parents like his brother more when no shit, his little brother was a prodigy who was doing shit with his life while Jesse never bothered and turned to drugs
And it's not like they were abusive or something, they genuinely loved him but kinda gave up on him after Jesse proved that he wasn't going to change (and it's true, considering it literally takes him going through the constant trauma in BB to actually leave drugs behind and even then he became Heisenberg's partner)
Honestly even though Walter definitely became more abusive by Season 5 and he was obviously leagues worse than Jesse's real parents he was still genuinely a far better parental role to Jesse than Mike or Gus. Walt actually cared for Jesse and sort of saw him as a successor since Walt Jr had palsy meaning he'd never go for chemistry and Holly would be too young when he died. Mike only used him to cope about his responsability in Matty's death (but obviously scapegoating since Mike never really does anything to redeem himself) and he really didn't give a fuck if Jesse died and Gus purely wanted Jesse for the meth and would have gotten rid of him after that
Jesse's need for validation led to him making constantly retarded choices. Leave his parents, join with Walt, leave Walt to stay with Mike and Gus, get along with Jane (Jane was a manipulative bitch who just wanted to drug herself forever and only wanted Jesse for his cash), etc. It's only by Felina/El Camino that Jesse finally fucking understands how bad shit has gotten and by then it's too late and he's kinda fucked his life and will have to start a new, far worse and more lonely one

>Walt is bad because he made Jesse kill Gale to save both of their lives and was only unable to do it himself because he was being held at gunpoint
>Meanwhile Walt killed two gangbangers, one of them an execution at pointblank range, to save Jesse because he knew he was going to be retarded, but this doesn't mean Jesse should Gale to save them because it just doesn't

Why is plebbit like this btw?

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>>218301467
Anon plebbit also believes Jimmy was a heckin' innocent victim while Chuck was the evil twin brother who only wanted Jimmy to suffer even though the fucking show in its very last episode shows that was never the case and it's always been Jimmy's delusional view on the world and his tendency to scam and manipulate people that fucks everything up, Chuck was right. It's retarded
Also a large chunk of predditors are Mikefags who act like Mike was right in his little speech against Walter when it was complete bullshit, Walt and Jesse would never have been fine working for Gus and Walt never rebelled because he "wanted to be the man", he genuinely wanted to save his, Jesse's and his family's lives
Meanwhile they ignore that Mike is a psycho who caused his own son's death through being corrupt, cries about it but then decides to be the right hand man of the biggest cartel in the USA instead of getting a legitimate job, ends the lives of numerous people in extremely scummy ways and his last scene in BCS (aka the entire franchise) that isn't a flashback is Nacho's dad calling him out on being a psychopath and no different than the rest of the gangsters he meets, the whole "good criminal" philosphy he has is total bullshit, he's coping for being an awful worthless human being

>>218300123
Not every poison had a telltale sign in the body. Common ones do that hospital doctors or especially a medical examiner or coroner would know to look for, something like rat poison or arsenic. But uncommon poisons can cause weird presentationsband symptoms in patients, and if the physicians have no idea the patient may have been poisoned, they're not going to be looking for that as an answer at all. They're busy ruling out actual illnesses, not purposely inflicted poison.

>>218299893
he didn't even poison-poisoned him

waltuh just gave him a bellyache, he knew it wouldn't kill him

>>218301670
I can't believe people think Chuck being a bit petty or mean towards Jimmy equates him or even makes him worse than Jimmy. Jimmy is always crying about not being given a chance but whenever a chance is presented he fucks it up because he wants to be the bad wolf who preys upon clueless sheep. People seem to forget that Chuck immediately saw through his billboard hero bullshit story, then he tried to scam the Kettlemans, then he got taken off the Sandpiper case because everyone realised he was illegally soliciting, then he fucked up with Clifford and got Kim in trouble, who in turn took it out on Howard even if he was absolutely in the right. Then he scammed Chuck with the Mesa Verde thing, then later with the insurance thing, etc. Oh but Chuck once said I don't really care about you after witnessing Jimmy scamming his own parents.

>>218302951
The Clifford and Main thing is awful because he got given a spot out of genuine charity and he fucked it up because he didn't like they didn't let him publish ads without their consent which manipulated the audience

>>218301312
>Jane (Jane was a manipulative bitch who just wanted to drug herself forever and only wanted Jesse for his cash)
You're honestly retarded if you think this. She wanted to get him off the drugs, showcased by the fact she asked him to go to the meetings with her, told him to leave the house with her ANYWHERE so he didn't do it, and got the money so they BOTH could leave everything behind. It was because Walt intervened and killed her that Jesse was stuck with his terrible life.

>>218305191
>showcased by the fact she asked him to go to the meetings with her
Jane very clearly did not want to go to the meetings. She only went because her dad wanted her to. She was a total druggie who had no desire to actually go clean and hated her dad for being a good parent and trying to get her off the stuff
>got the money so they BOTH could leave everything behind
Her main goal was getting away from her father, whatever she did with Jesse after that is irrelevant
She clearly just wanted the cash because she wanted to skip town, go to a shitty motel and OD on drugs. Even Walt sees this, he straight up tells Jesse that if he were given the money they'd be dead in a week because they're junkies who only care about getting a high
>It was because Walt intervened and killed her that Jesse was stuck with his terrible life.
No? Jesse could have left at any second or got in the presence of good people. Also Walt did not kill Jane, it was an accident. And also the fact that they were both drugged to sleep proves my point more, Walt refused to save Jane because he saw that if he just let Jesse keep on 1. Jane may try to extort him further and put him and his family at risk and 2. They'd both die really soon

>>218302951
Chuck might not be as bad as Jimmy but he was still a faggot. He didn't care about the integrity of the law or whatever gay shit he was just asshurt that everyone liked Jimmy more. Chuck was a heckin good boy who went to college and did everything by the book and was used to getting his ass kissed as a result and seeing Jimmy lie and cheat his way into success over and over made him seethe. Then when Jimmy tried to actually do things the right way and go to college Chuck chose to hold him back and basically condemn him to repeating the same pattern of lying and cheating forever.

>>218299985
people shit on Mike all the time for being a boomer power fantasy, no reason to shit on Saul in Breaking Bad since he was great in every scene.

>>218305496
Sort of fair but Chuck worked hard to become one of the most respected lawyers around. Saul's an embarrassment. He's the wacky retard loudly making movie references and high fiving people in a scene that's obviously all about being a smarmy douche sipping scotch and chortling. Chuck's reputation would be gone overnight with that guy Jack Blacking around the room every time they have an important meeting and saying BTW I'M THIS GUYS BROTHER LMAO YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH GET IT? IT'S FROM A MOVIE! I wouldn't have hired him either and I would at least be able to say to the associates and clients "yeah this guy's some random dickhead don't worry he'll be fired before the end of the day." and not have to admit to being related
The right move would have been to say we can't just hire you as a lawyer straight off the bat, go and find work and make a name for yourself, and once you have experience, we'd be glad to consider you.

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>>218305496
>He didn't care about the integrity of the law or whatever gay shit he was just asshurt that everyone liked Jimmy more
Chuck was certainly jealous of Jimmy but for good fucking reason, imagine working your ass off in life to get where you are and barely anyone likes you outside of work, your wife is colder than the North Pole while your brother who's a scam artist and criminal manages to get everyone to love him and excuse his horrible actions
>was used to getting his ass kissed as a result
The opposite, he never got his ass kissed. His mom and dad always preferred Jimmy despite Chuck's achievements, even his mom wanted to see Jimmy during her death and not Chuck. Only Howard and possibly Howard's dad had a genuine friendship with Chuck, and Jimmy obviously
>when Jimmy tried to actually do things the right way and go to college Chuck chose to hold him back and basically condemn him to repeating the same pattern of lying and cheating forever
"American Samoa" is not a real college, Jimmy was lying about that, it's a degree mill. You can tell because in BB we get a diploma (picrel) and it mentions the school is in Rose Atoll, an uninhabited nature preserve. His only real achievement was passing the bar (probably cheated let's be honest) and he barely put in effort before resorting to cheating again with shit like the billboard stunts and scamming the Kettlemans. Remember Chuck wasn't born with HHM, he and Howard's dad built it by themselves

>>218300883
Why does reddit love Jesse while hating Todd whose only crime was loyalty?

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>>218305674
This
Also we literally see Saul get into a respectable firm with Davis and Main and from the start he starts fucking with everything (even a light switch with a note which says "do not press"), publishes an extremely manipulative ad which would have gotten the firm sued by Sandpiper for slander, he gets reprimanded but basically let off scot free, but he gets so pissy that he dresses like a total fucking clown and starts playing the bagpipes and shit and humiliating the firm, losing them who knows how many customers because he wants to get fired but retain his pay bonus. Even Clifford who has been extremely kind to him calls him a fucking asshole, same with Howard later which is even worse because Howard was constantly vowing for Jimmy and calling him Charlie Hustle and trying to help him and Jimmy ruins his life out of spite and ends up killing him due to Lalo
No fucking shit Chuck didn't want Jimmy in HHM. He had no experience, his courtroom "skills" involved outright illegal stunts like when he committed literal battery with Huell to put a phone battery on Chuck's pocket or when he had the defendant at the back of the courtroom and had a fake double in the actual seat, he went out of his way to do things without anybody's permission, his ad campaigns were insanely manipulative like when he dressed like Howard and stole HHM's whole logo then faked a rescue to make HHM look heartless, he had no real law training since American Samoa is an obvious degree mill, he threw tantrums every time he wasn't given the ability to do whatever the fuck he wanted and he was insanely entitled, assuming that he deserved to be in HHM because he was a good boi working at the fucking mailing room for a couple of years and because of nepotism. Chuck was right about Jimmy and the saddest part is that as Saul Gone shows, he still wanted Jimmy to change his ways and find something he liked but Jimmy ignored his advice

>>218305709
Because Todd got really fat and he was a ginger

>>218305864
he didn't get pissy, he was intentionally trying to get fired at that point.

>>218305864
It's established to be one of the biggest law firms in the area too. They probably had people from top law schools queuing up to get a foot in the door there and they were investing money in putting promising prospects through law school. Precious Jimmy seriously thought they'd just hire him as his first law job with 0 experience and a degree not worth the cost of ink because he's such a wacky character down in the mail room and Chuck totally owes him the job because err...

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>>218299939
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>>218300043
hehe racism funny

>>218306061
Even the mail room job would probably have a fairly harsh hiring process. Even that was probably too good for Jimmy really considering one of the bosses knew he was a scammer that shat in someone's car with their kids inside. If anyone else did that and somehow avoided prison, you can be sure Chuck, Howard or anyone else who knew about it would not be hiring them for any kind of position at their firm. He already got a nepo job well above what he deserved.

>>218305689
I don’t think Vince remembers details like that. Would Jimmy get jobs like Davis and Main if he didn’t have an accredited degree? Would they even let him take the bar exam?

>>218306061
And the worst part is Jimmy 100% didn't just want to be a lawyer in HHM, he wanted to be an exec or even a partner, look at how he speaks to the higher ups during the first episode on a first name basis like they're his fucking drinking pals and then starts making references to TV shows in front of them when any normal fucking person would know that these people are insanely high up and to show a bit of respect
Jimmy was genuinely delusional, he was little more than a fucking con artist who made his living being a thieving rat and breaking his knees and yet he believed he was on the same level as the higher ups in one of the highest rated firms in New Mexico and that Chuck wasn't hiring him out of pettiness and not him not even having experience to justify being a normal lawyer
I mean ffs, Chuck probably spent DECADES in Jimmy's same position of being a public defender before getting hired by a firm, HHM wasn't built overnight, the difference is Chuck actually worked his ass off whereas Jimmy didn't even make it three years into that until he decided that he wanted to be a lawyer but it was too hard so he needed to scam people again
He didn't even have the decency to try changing his career and exploring other interests before resorting to trying to frame the Kettlemans with the skateboarding twins and doing the whole billboard shit

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>>218300883
I hate Jesse more with every viewing. One of the most unlikeable characters in fiction.

>>218305674
>>218305689
Fair enough but even Howard who was also a respected and well-known lawyer liked Jimmy wanted him at HHM. You could argue that Howard wasn't fully aware of just how scummy Jimmy could be but again Jimmy didn't commit his worst offenses until AFTER Chuck had already screwed him over, which altered his world view permanently and directly led to his Saul persona fully metastasizing because he genuinely believed there was no other way at that point. Someone was always going to try to hold him back whether it was Howard as he originally believed or his own brother out of pettiness.

>>218306298
There is no saul persona, he just gets better at combining his vast experience in being a criminal and scam artist with his job over time.

>>218306298
>Childhood to his arrest for shitting in a car (30+ years?)
Is a prolific scammer, fraud and counterfeiter. Goes by the name Saul Goodman
>few years in mail room
He a good boy. Charlie Hustle! He only constantly does scams because he doesn't want to have to legitimately earn work!
>Gets "screwed over" (bro doesn't put him on the top floor of the company he built)
Is a prolific scammer, fraud and counterfeiter. Goes by the name Saul Goodman.

>>218306298
>even Howard who was also a respected and well-known lawyer liked Jimmy wanted him at HHM
Howard was taken in by Jimmy's charisma, like Clifford and Kim. He only realized his mistake later when Jimmy showed his true colors and fucked his entire life out of just hatred for existing and reminding him of Chuck
>again Jimmy didn't commit his worst offenses until AFTER Chuck had already screwed him over
So Jimmy didn't shit into a car with people inside and possibly get a sex offender charge before HHM? Jimmy didn't try to ruin HHM's reputation by creating a staged "accident" which made him look like a hero and HHM as the evil bad guys if they tried to sue Jimmy for copyright infringement? Jimmy didn't spend half his life stealing money from innocent people to waste it on beer and hookers? Sure Jimmy gets even worse after that but he was already a pretty morally bankrupt person long before he broke up with Chuck
>which altered his world view permanently and directly led to his Saul persona fully metastasizing because he genuinely believed there was no other way at that point
The funniest part is Chuck didn't even mean the whole "I don't care about you" thing, as shown throughout the show Chuck clearly cares about Jimmy and gives him more chances than any reasonable person would. He just had enough when Jimmy became even bolder in his delusions that he was anywhere close to actual trained professional lawyers and that his illegal tactics are valid and he should be hired in HHM
>Someone was always going to try to hold him back
How was he being held back exactly? What did Jimmy have that made him deserve having a spot at HHM's higher tiers? What experience? What skills? Being a scammer who exploited the legal system in illegal ways? You're falling into Saul's pity party scheme, he acts like he deserved more when him getting a spot at the fucking mail room was already a miracle, most people wouldn't hire him with his rep.

>>218306248
>I don’t think Vince remembers details like that
The BB and BCS plot development process is fundamentally designed around looking at previous episodes and using material mentioned. For instance, Madrigal first appeared as a one-off in the Pollos Hermanos ad at the start of Kafkaesque, then Vince saw potential and it became a major cornerstone of the Pollos drug creation and distribution network. The Walt Whitman book? Never originally planned to be the reason why Hank found out, but it was perfect when the team rewatched the older episodes. Same with the ricin cig being used in Felina after being carried around all the way since Season 2. When Vince and Peter added the University of American Samoa into BCS, they 500% watched the BB episodes where it appears and had this diploma in mind. It's intended to be a degree mill, even the show hints at it with how Chuck points out how nobody knows about it.
>Would Jimmy get jobs like Davis and Main if he didn’t have an accredited degree?
The fake diploma counts as a "degree" and his charisma, connections and success in the Sandpiper case got him the timely clout he needed to land Davis & Main. That and Clifford being a bro honestly
>Would they even let him take the bar exam?
See the previous response. Also there are well known cheaters in the bar who passed without zero real clue what they were doing, successful con artist Saul Goodman would easily know a way to get in and pass it.

>>218300503
Jesse should've died in S1 as planned.

>>218306724
Vince and co also forgot about all the horrible shit Jesse did like selling meth to rehab patients and gave him a a good ending because “he deserved it”. And “Walt blackmailed him” even though Jesse repeatedly sold meth on his own when he wasn’t trying to get Walt back into it

>>218299893
If you had to non-fatally poison every single kid on the planet for a day in order to go on living, wouldn't you?

>>218306800
>gave him a a good ending because “he deserved it”
Jesse got tortured for close to a year and his ending is being stuck in Alaska's wilderness not really risking going to very civilized areas because chances are his face is on the FBI's most wanted and every year when they inevitably celebrate a day in rememberance of all of Heisenberg's victims his face will be plastered all over the news as "Heisenberg's protege who escaped to Mexico and who knows where he lives now". Can he even get a family or start a business? I doubt it. That isn't a good ending, sure it's better than Mike or Walt's but it's still fucking horrible

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>>218299893
Walt I dont know man
https://youtu.be/ATKWgdM40Wk?si=t0sPatXm8tX70fZb
Hank finds out super early

>>218305689
That's not good reason. If the only people who like are the people who work under you ("like" is being generous I know) then maybe it's not everyone else who's the problem. You can't blame Jimmy for being based and larping as Kevin Costner while Chuck married some witch's tit.
Everyone loves chads (Jimmy). Everyone hates nerds (Chuck). It's like that irl too.

His mom wanted to see Jimmy because she worries about him. She knows Chuck is fine because he's the sensible (boring) one. No reason to see him so he can tell her about his tax returns or some nerd shit.

It's almost impossible to cheat the bar exam, even for Jimmy.
He tried his hardest to get Chuck's respect and Chuck didn't want to know. He was too busy seething that Jimmy got the babes and he didn't and taking care of his electric allergy.

Jimmy made the ultimate sacrifice in the end became a cuck just like Chuck. But Chuck still wouldn't have appreciated it.

>>218305637
I hated that Saul got portrayed as a crooked lawyer with a heart of gold or something

Picture a druggie son who plays the victim so his mom gives him more money to buy drugs. He says this time he'll change but its just a facade. The producer wants to make us feel sympathy for the druggie so he makes Better Call Saul, the druggie son with a heart of gold

>>218306372
Saul does have a persona but it's more a cope for his guilt in being responsible for Chuck and Howard's deaths and Kim leaving his ass, that's why he drinks so much and has twenty hookers a day
>>218307070
>You can't blame Jimmy for being based and larping as Kevin Costner while Chuck married some witch's tit.
And yet Jimmy lacks any long-term friendships that are seriously worthwhile. Marco was a parasite like him who achieved nothing. Kim was her worst self and left his ass. Jimmy has had iirc 4 divorces, that's how much people hate him when they know him like Chuck does. His charisma allows him the upper hand when people know him professionally or superficially
>No reason to see him so he can tell her about his tax returns or some nerd shit
Right, no reason to call for both your sons, just Jimmy cause he's special. Precious Jimmy.
>It's almost impossible to cheat the bar exam
Literally isn't, hundreds of people succeed yearly at cheating and that's with modern tech checking for cheaters. Imagine back in the noughties when teachers didn't give a fuck.
>He tried his hardest to get Chuck's respect
By cheating his way up instead of putting in effort
>He was too busy seething that Jimmy got the babes and he didn't and taking care of his electric allergy
Should be noted that his EHS is explained to be mental illness stemming from the stress he feels around Jimmy, when Jimmy isn't around he's way better. If Jimmy left to go to Britain permanently Chuck would likely get over it fast
>Jimmy made the ultimate sacrifice in the end became a cuck just like Chuck. But Chuck still wouldn't have appreciated it.
Poor poor Jimmy, was given a second chance at life by people who cared about him instead of rotting in jail with a sex offender charge or dying in the streets like Marco, and wasted it all on being an entitled retard and fucking everyone over.
>>218307220
Characters are grey, Saul does have good qualities but you're intended to see the truth on rewatches

>>218307435
>Characters are grey, Saul does have good qualities but you're intended to see the truth on rewatches
everyone has good qualities. Saul is still a bad person who IRL you wouldnt trust with anything since he'll backstab when the opportunity presents itself. He even backstabbed Kim