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Just got my hands on a dvd box of this. What am I in for? Does it hold up? Looks comfy as fuck.
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>>218300675
it's really corny but endearingly so
honestly I feel like most 90s sci-fi schlock would feel way less goofy with just 2 changes
>actual live music as the soundtrack and not crap synth music that reacts to character actions in a slapstick way
>effects having a frame rate that matches the live action footage instead of feeling too smooth compared to the real people
the remaster of B5 already proved that the latter fixes 90% of its issues
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everything but the Peacekeeper Wars is upscaled from 576i master tapes but I remember it looking fine but that was a decade ago
I would bet some fan project has already done an AI cleanup of that release and it likely looks better
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>>218300980
>Effects having a frame rate that matches the live action footage instead of feeling too smooth compared to the real people
It's actually shutterspeed - there was a canard for a long time that CGI needed an unnaturally long motion blur shutter speed to feel "fluid".
It was always bullshit and ruined so much.
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>not crap synth music that reacts to character actions in a slapstick way
I hate this crap. there was no issue with it on shows like Xena or Jack of All Trades because those were intentionally lighthearted camp with no real stakes, but when shows try to be serious and still do the clown music it just drags it down
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I've had to explain to people that old sci-fi looked like absolute DOGSHIT for this reason, so many 90s things are getting re-releases where the shutter speed is artificially normalized and it blends in a way the original VHS tapes never did
The Stand got a top-to-bottom hi-def remaster that looks worlds better than the original 1994 broadcast just by fixing the shutter speed on effects/action shots, the jump to HD was just a bonus
the TNG remaster from 2012 is so comprehensively better to watch that it's effectively replaced the original in every way, you have to go back 15 years just to find clips on YouTube that are sourced from the old version
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This is the correct answer
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>>218303812
>pretty much no lines in the finale
why did they do it to her?
did they hate her? did she have scenes that just didn't make it in? did she have a sore throat from scorpy's half-reptilian cock?
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>>218300675
It is comfy as fuck. My only complaint is the main character is a little over the top to a cringy level sometimes but it ends up working. Others have called it B and its true sorta, but it is also very inspired, especially once you get into the rhythm of it.
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even in the later seasons you have cool aliens like this dude. There's less of them yeah, because the Sci-Fi Channel kept cutting their budget. Also the Scarrans are pretty cool
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No
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>>218300675
It's like an American version of early RTD1 Doctor Who, but with more sex.
I'm a third of the way through season 1. I want to take it slow.
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i used to smoke weed with a fan of the show so i caught wuite a few of the early episodes. i really couldnt get into it with the good Maori villain who wanted to avenge his brother. But it got really cool when they added Scorpius as a vaillain. then I warched it unit it jumped the shark towards the end. ive been meaning to finish it.
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>>218300675
Get ready for best girl!
The first couple episodes are going to feel a little weird, but you have to put it in context of sci fi airing at the time, where it was a largely episodic format where the status quo is reset at the end of each episode. And they kind of play with that for the first few episodes, and then they sneak in some continuity, and the characters and their relationships start to develop, and over the first season you see them go from people who can't stand each other stuck together by circumstance becoming reluctant allies, then friends, and then legends.
The series ends on a cliff hanger (because sci fi channel is gay), and years later they made a direct to video movie/miniseries called "The Peacekeeper Wars" which is a very abridged fifth season that wraps up the show.I think you can stream it for free on amazon.
Shits cash though.
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>skippable
Fuck no, not on your first watch. Its important to establish the characters.
And some of them are still fun episodes.
Jeremiah Chrichton is worth watching just for the eventual payoff in the season 4 opening.
Browder got so much shit for the fake beard in that episode, he decided to grow a real beard for the season 4 opener, but somehow his real actual beard looks faker than a terrible fake looking fake beard.
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Tiny little Moya made of cake
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Because the final season is a really heavily condensed season 5. They had to cut out a lot of stuff. If they had the whole season the nebari were going to be the big bad and I assume the finale would have been a three way showdown with the PKs, the scarren, and nebari.
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>>218310030I miss that big beautiful blue bitch like you wouldn't believe
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You were right, its absolute cinema. Tv budget was extremely limiting in what they could get across.
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kek zoomers don't realize how low budget tv shows were before breaking bad and shit
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I've been re-watching recently.
For the most part, 10/10. One of the best sci-fi shows.
What the hell was going on with about the first seven episodes of season 4 though? The tone is all off, and some of the storylines are borderline incomprehensible.
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>>218303512
I wonder the degree to which Scorpius was planned to be John's main nemesis, and to what degree Wayne Pygram just stole the show to the point that he was promoted to basically a full main cast member by the time season 3 rolls around.
Crais was obviously the main bad guy for season 1, but I get the sense they planned to do more with Maldis and Durka as well.
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>>218308032
I remember one of the creators at one point saying they wanted to make "Doctor Who, but way better"(this at the time being old Doctor Who), and yeah it kind of is.
Also, seemingly some Blake's 7 influence. I wonder if the Australians who grew up with old British TV were condensing Doctor Who and Blake's 7 into one thing in their memories.
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Great Season 1 and 2
Terrible Season 3
Good Season 4 that would probably be great if it wasn't suffering from Season 3's awfulness and the writers introducing a new main character just so they could write about how much they hate her
Rushed and heavily condensed TV film finale that is still good
And the most Kino "Villain" who is actually the hero of the story.
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The special effects in Farscape are really good. I mean, they chose to use puppets and practical effects instead of CGI, so the show has aged much better than most.
In addition, the melodramatic story arc is quite good and keeps the viewer engaged, even if the wormhole plot is, let's say, underdeveloped. But who can blame the writers? There aren't many wormhole experts among TV writers.
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The bad thing about Farscape is that there are many plot holes, things that don’t make sense, and moments clearly written for the "rule of cool." (The rule of cool means "Style over Substance, Always.")
For example, the show never really explains why Sebaccions look so similar to normal humans. A spin‑off touches on it, but only as a side gag. The builders of the Leviathans like Moya are shown briefly and never receives a proper explanation. That leaves us wondering, "Is creationism true in the Farscape universe?"
A lot of biological stuff doesn't make sense either, e.g. translator microbes and the fact that Luxans must be "hit" to get their blood flowing are never adequately justified.
Even within the actual plot, there are things you should not thing too much about.
You just need to accapt this as a given. Like Crichton the fictional astronaut himself.there may be a reason but the reason is either unknown or it just happend that you never meet the person who could you explain. Okay, the last thing shares the Facrscape universe with the real life...
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>>218315359
This is the most contrarian post I've seen so far this week. Never in my life have I heard anyone hating season 3 or considering it the worst season.
And you think "Peacekeeper Wars" is good though LMAO
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I feel it was implied that humans and sebaccions share a common ancestor. There's the (incredibly confusingly written) episode in season 4 where they find the alien artifact with the eye of horus on it, implying that maybe the human race's ancestors came from that part of the universe, and traveled through a wormhole.
Also yeah, I think it's implied that the supernatural, gods, and so forth are all real in this universe. This isn't a hard sci-fi show.
A real plot hole/convenience though is that the entire crew just conveniently learns English during their stay on Earth.
In the time travel episode Aeryn speaks awkwardly with an accent, which they never do again after that point. In the following episode only Aeryn and Sikozu can communicate in English, and then they immediately forget about that, and just let everyone speak English.
I guess they all learned? It's clunky.
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>>218300675
Most of the first season is good, and innovative for the time, but it soon descends into being a formulaic by the numbers American Sci-fi series. You're better off with Lexx or trying a British Show like Blakes 7, the Avengers, Red Dwarf or Doctor Who, which try to innovate with new ideas and stories throughout their run, rather than tread water once enough people are fans until they have enough episodes to be shown back to back, every day.
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>>218315464
>Most of the first season is good, and innovative for the time, but it soon descends into being a formulaic by the numbers American Sci-fi series.
lol the exact OPPOSITE happens, this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, don't listen to him.
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>>218315464
>don't watch Farscape watch DOCTOR WHO instead
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>>218300980
B5 aged like milk.
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Kek
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She is a example of Australian beauty.
>>218304357
Unfurtuninally, they clearly introduce Sikozu and Chiana just for a hot look.
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Yup, this shows are like siblings. Both are based on unrealistic premises and push them to extremes while developing their own style. Both are only imaginable in the 1990s setting, and both deal with wormholes.
With todays standards, they would not stand. Neither the story nor the cast.
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The drama emerge from the personal relationsships does a lot. Without it, the show lose much appeal and is just another of many scifi-shows of the time.
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>Unfurtuninally, they clearly introduce Sikozu and Chiana just for a hot look.
I don't think this is a bad thing.
I also like both of those characters quite a lot.
What was the deal with Jool though? Was Jool meant to stay longer, and did Sikozu just get Jool's arc for season 4?
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>>218315608
Jool was meant to fill Zhaan's role as "medical officer" while also providing a best friend for Chiana. You'll recall that although Chiana and Jool hate each other at first they slowly become gal pals over the course of season 3, and by the end of that season Chiana and Jool are almost like John and D'Argo, and Jool had become far less annoying. I honestly liked where they were going with it and was disappointed that they replaced her with Sikozu, despite Sikozu being the hottest character ever. Maybe if The Sci-Fi Channel didn't keep slashing their budget we could have had both
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>I feel it was implied that humans and sebaccions share a common ancestor.
You mean, you thought it during watching?
>There's the (incredibly confusingly written) episode in season 4 where they find the alien artifact with the eye of horus on it, implying that maybe the human race's ancestors came from that part of the universe, and traveled through a wormhole.
Okay, that's fine, but we're in session 4 then and it's treated like "it's just a fact" before. In addition, there's no explanation of what happened with the Egyptian thing or what it has to do with everything.
>Also yeah, I think it's implied that the supernatural, gods, and so forth are all real in this universe. This isn't a hard sci-fi show.
You can still do the "actually, it's adavance technology"-thing but at some point, it's just ridiculous.
They mixed fantasy and scifi and they did it sufficient well.
>A real plot hole/convenience though
Dude, there are a lot of plotholes, even earlier.
For instance, look at how Chiana moves. At first, you may think this is a trait of her race but we meet others of her kind and they move normal.
At some point, it's implied that the Peacekeepers are like regular law enforcement. They accidentally catch innocent people, but this is like real authorities on Earth. It is a error in the system, not the purpose.
Later, they imply the Peacekeepers are a xenophobic, fascist regime that overthrows independent governments and forms an empire.
Then, out of a sudden, they're merely serving other governments, and their own agency seems limited by security considerations. All of this can be true simultaneously, and a talented writer could explore an organization that appears to serve the authorities but has become a "state within a state" that actually controls policy.
The entire Nebari thing doesn't make much of a sense if you think deeper about it. It is just about "teenage rebellion" against maximal conformism.
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Lexx is very smiliar, yes.
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>>218315655
jool was a surprisingly good character by the end even though she was just an annoying to the audience as she was to everyone else at first. originally i did not like her at all, but she has a bit of actual depth and sincerely tries to better herself and adapt to her situation as the show goes on
i never liked sikozu much desu as she is pretty much just a smug self assured cunt through and through for the most part
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So, did the actress leave voluntarily, or did they decide they wanted a similar (but hotter) character, and she got the boot?
I could imagine an alternative season 4 where she fills Sikozu's role as the character who ends up admiring Scorpius for his intelligence.
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Chiana is a sex weirdo, and the rest of her race get those behaviours cleansed out of them.
In regards to the Peacekeepers I think the answer is they're both an "evil empire", and regular cops. They're actually pretty realistically written in that regard. That's just what real world empires are like. One day America is like "bro, we need to maintain global peace", but then they're like "ooh, that oil tho...".
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>bro the show literally explains directly why humans and Sebaccions are so similar
Where?
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>Was Jool meant to stay longer, and did Sikozu just get Jool's arc for season 4?
No Jool was never mean to be artifically.
But yes, both are really booksmart women who fails in practice and they fall for brutal bad boys (like Kar'Dargo or even Skorpios).
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Idk, the actor of Jool was a singer-songwriter in band and clearly favour this over being the hot face of a nerd-show. "You will never know whether this babes actually likes scifi or just like the attention..."
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It's not, the whole production chain of 80-90's Quantel based video effects, Video Toaster-originated CGI and mixing that with film originated live action is a complete shitshow thanks to NTSC and 3:2 pulldown and hardware based video effects equipment unable to work in native 24fps. Having been shot in Australia, the master format of Farscape is PAL, so it avoids most of it being 25p, but often things like scrolling titles ended up being 50i in PAL too.
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>>218315726
>Where?
Peacekeeper Wars. The Eidolons ( I think?) abducted humans from Earth like half a million years ago and genetically engineered them to be their space military and police force. After that race died off, the Peacekeepers slowly descended into despotism
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wormhole xtreme shit there
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>>218315697
She got a backround with the Egyptian thing out of nowhere.
No foreshadowing, no implication... it is just there...
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>You're forgetting that other members of her race have been brainwashed and Chiana hasn't been
If they just have had more room, they could explore this ideas more. Different kind of conformity. Peacekeeper are conformity by force and controll; Nebari by brainwashing and non-aggression; Scarrans by brutal conquering and destruction of any resistance.
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>Chiana is a sex weirdo, and the rest of her race get those behaviours cleansed out of them.
She is somehow a stand-in for a young woman who run away from home.
>hat's just what real world empires are like.
I say, you have a point. There are Empires for a reason.
Farscape, however, is not a big political analogy.
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Often when I'm watching I am thinking "are the Peacekeepers even the bad guys though", and I think it's intentionally complicated, and I respect the show for being written that way.
We see that they don't exactly enslave people, but they do seem passively comfortable allowing slavery to exist. We see in the season 1 episode with the farming planet that they're comfortable coercing weaker races into working for them, but this isn't explicit. They aren't pointing guns at these people and telling them they own them, but they also can't exactly leave the arrangement. And you can imagine that if a planet's leader doesn't go along with serving the Peacekeepers, that planet might end up with a new leader soon.
They fit Leviathans with control collars, as if they were livestock, which I guess they effectively are. They're ships that are grown to serve people, in spite of being living beings.
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If you're already that in then you're going to like it a lot. It gets a big injection of quality around the second half of the first season.
Heads-up: some of the episodes were broadcast out of order. Might want to look into that (it's not an entirely huge deal, but it does impact character and plot development slightly)
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she saying the smart obvious thing would have been enough
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KINO. Gets progressively more kino as seasons go on. I finished season 3 a few weeks ago and planning to watch episode 1 of season 4 this FRIDAYYY NIIIIIGHT MOTHAAFUCKAAAAA
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Even after all these years, this scene still gets to me.
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There’s stealing a good idea, and then there’s stealing a good idea and mishandling so bad you might as well have not bothered.
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I find Chiana so fucking hot that I easily look past her rampant character flaws, but for some reason Gigi Edgely doesn't do anything for me.
Laura Bertram who place Trance on Andromeda was really fucking hot too but she's also adorable out of makeup. But Chiana as a character just does something to me. Maybe it's the accented clavicles?
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Shame she has that Nebari mindcleansing STD that she’s been spreading butter on galactic toast.
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for me it's War Minister Ahkna
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So many dominatrixes in this show
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I mean, they broke him a little, he's a bit of a nutter by the end of the series
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It's too weird and off-putting to be comfy. There are certain episodes I think are comfy, but overall no. Honestly it's a compliment, the show is too wild and imaginative and unpredictable to be comfy
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How many people actually got the Harvey reference without looking it up?
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>Show has a bunch of freaky alien chicks
>John ends up with the one who is just human spelled differently
Always bugged me. Even though Claudia Black is a 10/10 goddess. Amazing show though. Awful movie to cap the series.
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i think it gets followed up in the comics, which I have never read or feel the need to read.
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blessed thread