>>218302123
better cinematography and direction for sure. even the fourth one is charming in its own right

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>>218302123
... okay?

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>>218302196
>even the fourth one is charming in its own right
Now you went too far

>>218302123
All slop trash with the most annoying gay theme music ever in a major movie. First one is 6/10 at best, the rest don’t even deserve to be rated

>>218302236
bait used to be believable

>>218302246
Ok maybe a 7/10 but the music is still gay

>>218302210
Yandere-chan? In current year?

>>218302123
Irrefutable.

The pajeet one was so forgettable.

>>218302421
dumb zoomer

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>>218302123
Correct. Objectively better movies in virtually every way. Also didn't spawn hordes of insufferable retarded manchildren.

>>218302421
True

>>218302221
I wouldn't say that's worse than 2

>>218302598
>Muh Temple of Doom sucks
Get a new tape, this one is older than you, faggot

>>218302421
It's unironically the best one
>They know what they are doing with the character at this point
>They aren't trying to just remake the first movie
>You got to see all the pajeets killed as a bonus
People shit on it for the reason why it's the best - it's not like the first one.
Good, that's how you make a good sequel. 3rd one is just same boring shit, same boring villain. We were THIS close to simply have Fate of Atlantis as the 3rd movie.

>>218302598
kys retard, ToD is the best in the trilogy

Raiders > Temple > Crusade > Skull

>>218302671
Which part of "trilogy" you don't unerstand?

yeas

>>218302123
Weak. Only Raiders stands up to early Star Wars, ok Temple as well, but not Crusade, which I do love, but it's the weakest of the three and everyone knows it.

>>218302671
>Skull
Fan films don't count, Anon.

>>218303149
This applies to Star Wars as well, you know that right? Return is fucking shit, New Hope is okay and only Empire is good. So Indie moggs Star Wars.

Temple is the Dark Souls 2 of Indiana Jones.

>>218302421
Dude, that was the best one. It lacked a memorable villain, although the high priest guy tried his best, but it had the best supporting cast, the best jokes and the best action scenes.

>>218302236
>>218302317
Wrong again.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8aWK0CPFcb8&list=RD8aWK0CPFcb8&start_radio=1&pp=ygUcSW5kaWFuYSBqb25lcyBwcnVzc2lhcyBnbG9yeaAHAQ%3D%3D

Temple starts with a musical number of "Anything Goes" in Mandarin, if you can't get past that, Temple is not for you. Its the best with Lost Ark closely behind and Crusade bringing up the rear but not far away. I have seen all of them too many times to count and anyone who says anything different doesn't really like film but is a person who like movies as an outlet to talk about their opinions which are almost all public consciousness talking points.
>>Temple is bad because racism, Willie Scott and not having a better villain
They all have racism, both Willie Scott and Marion are irritating in their own right but important as a foil to Indy and Molaram is a fantastic villain. He literally pulls a heart out of a persons chest and then fries the body in lava as the heart smokes in his hand

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>>218303166
Shut up cunt

>>218302123
Objectively correct and based

>>218302421
It was the worst one but it still had certain awesome scenes

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>>218302196
This. There's a consistent directing style, meanwhile the og SW trilogy ranges from good, great to tv movie

>>218302123

Sure but bear in mind that Indy may not exist without SW simply because SW is the whole reason ILM was created in the first place. Most of the great blockbusters of the period own their existence to ILM.

>>218302641
Mega fucking retard
Temple is the worst out of the original trilogy. There is no character development, Indy remains the same asshole all the way through. The side character isn't important, Willie spends the entire film screaming her windpipes out but does nothing of value. And Short Round saves Indy but otherwise he is way less memorable than Sallah or Marcus
Last Crusade isn't a "remake" of Raiders, it's a proper continuation which sees Indy's conversion to the Christian faith and the healing of his childhood traumas all finalized after being set up in Raiders. The movies have insane parallels to each other that go way beyond just seeing the Ark in Crusade, they're pretty much two puzzle pieces that fit perfectly together and serve the TRUE Indiana Jones story, which is about his transformation as a man from the cynical atheist jackass he is at the start of Raiders to a caring son and husband who is now following the path of the Lord
Temple isn't bad and has some really memorable moments but both it and stuff like Fate of Atlantis and even possibly Young Indy are more secondary content. You can skip them and it's a bit of a shame but ultimately you still understand the main story. Skipping either Raiders or Crusade basically destroys the main focus of original saga

>>218303300
>Return is fucking shit,
It's better than Empire. At least equal.
Btw Ewok-haters are closeted gays.

>>218304683
>IT WAS DIFFERENT THAN THE FIRST ONE SO IT IS BAD!
So many words to make such simple, emotional statement.

Is indy even good? I've barely watched it, but to me it feels like one of those old stories that don't really say much of value, it just glides along with vibes of the generation. Hayao also criticized it because of the stupid values it contained.

tldr it's like the embodiment the typical fool who just goes along with his country.

>>218304734
It's pulp, it just happens to be made by the best of the best in the business.

>>218304698
This
People who hate Star Wars beyond ESB (well, what their interpretation of ESB is since they tend to ignore what it really was about) and usually Andor since Andorfags tend to hate SW are just sovlless retards who hate fantasy and fun, they just want more cyberslop about how the future is living in ze pod and eating onions and can't have fun enjoyable adventures
>>218304734
You clearly have no clue what you're talking about
>Hayao-
A depressed, life-hating prune of a man who can't stand basic morality plays. Yawn. Ghibli is overrated as fuck and that faggot doesn't deserve any real respect lmao

>>218304734
They are adventure movies. Indy does go through an arc though in the Last Crusade. It's funny that so many Jews worked on it yet that movie is very pro-Christian.

>Spielberg is better than George "Manchild" Lucas

>>218304781
This is Lucas and Spielberg before they sold out to the Hollywood satanic elites, that's why the movie is extremely Christian in nature
Spielberg back then wasn't a total jew shill

>>218304806
it's gonna be great

>>218304683
>> start of Raiders to a caring son and husband who is now following the path of the Lord
husband?
I appreciate the analysis but I would say that all three have character development. At the start of temple we see Indy making a deal and using Willie as leverage to get the cremated remains of an emperor of China, he is completely disinterested in anyone else but himself. Towards the end of the film he shows genuine care in saving the people of the village/Willie and Short Round even to go as far as saying that Molaram isn't worthy to have the stones and that they belong to the people. A change from selfish to ultraistic.
I think that the difference in religious setting, which is one of the reasons I enjoyed the second so much is maybe why you disliked it so much considering the overt Christian overtones of the first and third film. I enjoyed those as well but there are other religious artifacts that aren't Christian. My main belief as to why 4 and 5 flopped is because they aren't "real" religious artifacts.

>>218304683
Oh I get it. You hate temple because it establishes there are gods other than yours.

Ben Burtt is an amazing sound designer
https://youtu.be/854Zlz5-vXQ?si=lT34dK_97g3SUEqH&t=10

>>218304832
>husband?
I mean I imagine he marries Marion after Crusade. It's really the only way to make Raiders' entire plotline end perfectly
>I would say that all three have character development
Ehh... even if this were true it isn't personal. The reason the first and the third are so good is because the development centers around a part of his life containing traumatic experiences and broken relationships. Raiders has Marion and his issues with romantic relationships and life as a young adventurer, Crusade has Henry Sr. and his whole childhood which is the reason he hates religion so much. Even assuming that he does become more altruistic at the end of Temple, which is questionable since his behavior in Club Obi-Wan was affected by him being literally poisoned and dying, it isn't so much personal development as it is just a "oh now I understand that caring about people is great". It's naturally inferior to what he goes through in the other two
>is maybe why you disliked it so much considering the overt Christian overtones of the first and third film
Imo the Christian undertones are what seal both films together and make them really two parts of the same story. Temple is a fun romp but it's definitely more separate, like a fun sidequest between the two big plot events.
>My main belief as to why 4 and 5 flopped is because they aren't "real" religious artifacts.
Correct. Especially 5 and time travel. It's common knowledge that adding time travel to a franchise not built around it always fails.
>>218304837
Actually there isn't even evidence that the Hindu "gods" are real in Temple lol. The most supernatural aspects we get are the brainwashing juice which could be hallucinogenics and the stones burning brightly, we never see an event on the level of the Ark melting the Nazis' faces off or everything surrounding the Grail